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Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
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Posted - 2013.01.23 12:38:00 -
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Laris Orwan wrote: The most surprising thing for me though is the attitude of the pirates.. Barring one they have all been helpful after my defeat and I've chatted with them to get advise etc. Plus the last one who blew me up when I was chatting with my corp while at a safe spot (stayed to long and was to slack on my scanner) said check your wallet and stay alert next time. We had been chatting for a bit too.. Checked my wallet 4mil isk in it..
Yeah, this is pretty common too. Beside what some forum troll saying palying pirate or criminal is a role, doesn't mean they're ******* as players. it's just a legit gameplay/profession, as the miner or anything else.
Having your ship blon up doesn't mean there're disrespect, willing to harrass or ruin someone else gameplay, it's only a normal game mechanic. |
Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
51
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Posted - 2013.01.23 12:56:00 -
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Nicor Syke'Nexen wrote:
or just go in anything that can fit a covops cloak and lol @ the silly futility of gate campers.
You don't need a covops to sneak by camps. Cloak/MWD trick with some stabs and a fast cruiser will do fine. I get caught sometimes when I warp into a large camp and my hands start to sweat and shake and I screw up the timing, but I wouldnt give that up for anything. Screw Cov-ops, learn how to fly.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
Laris Orwan
Industrial Solutions The Knights Templar.
39
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:07:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:Laris Orwan wrote: Yeah well I've continued for the last 4 days warping into to low sec and ratting, scanning and trying to find a frig comparable to mine so I can start trying to engage on my terms..
For it join FW. Is fun, can do almost everything in T1 frigate and can support any loss with plex payout. Or if you don't want too just go in FW region and enter "novice" FW plexes, they allow only frigate in and easly you'll find people willing to engage in frigate 1 vs 1. Also, I sugegst to not travel in and out low sec, find a quiet system fitting youir needs and set your new home there.
I my look at this though I've got it in my head that my first kill will happen while roaming free in low sec.. don't know why.. lol
Also I do stay in low for most of the time but mining afk(isn) in High while watching a film etc is my income at the mo to fund my loses. Thats why I'm looking into getting into sites and the like to earn more in Low. It'll come :) |
Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:08:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1553648 Korgan NailoPosted - 2011.07.19 22:37:00 - [1]
Edited by: Korgan Nailo on 04/08/2011 22:32:43 Edited by: Korgan Nailo on 04/08/2011 21:11:36 Edited by: Korgan Nailo on 20/07/2011 17:18:56 Well, Incarna is out and I couldn't edit or update my previous post to post the new version of this reference.
So, hopefully for someone's use and not to feed the endless trolls, here it is.
For those who e-mailed me with comments and suggestions for it I hope you enjoy it.
Edit: v1.0.4, Corrected some information in Damage Types Edit: v1.1.0, Added Drones table! Yay!; Added a Cosmic Anomalies table; Added an Anomaly Class Levels table; Also fixed some icons Edit: v1.1.1, Fixed Kernite in Ore Types by System Security table
v1.1.1: Quick Reference Sheet
This has been very handy.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
52
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:14:00 -
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Laris Orwan wrote: I my look at this though I've got it in my head that my first kill will happen while roaming free in low sec.. don't know why.. lol
Also I do stay in low for most of the time but mining afk(isn) in High while watching a film etc is my income at the mo to fund my loses. Thats why I'm looking into getting into sites and the like to earn more in Low. It'll come :)
Its handy to have a highsec mine system, I do the same thing.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQVa8byuQ5b8SDdFuiCL09E-M5FPYANfP
These are some youtube vids I did of running around in low, how to rat and how to undock safely. The video sucks but the audio is good and the info is solid. Sometimes I listen to them while mining.
Great thread by the way. So many players get sucked into the mind numbing boredom of grinding faction for missions and mining high to support 5 plexed accounts with which to make...more miners!
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
Mister S Burke
LUNA INDUSTRIES
56
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:16:00 -
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Once you get past the inevitable hisec to lowsec gate camp it's usually pretty boring. I thought there would be armada laying in wait, but there isn't. I ran around TEST systems for hours before they even bothered to come out and kill us. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
1225
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:20:00 -
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Mister S Burke wrote: Once you get past the inevitable hisec to lowsec gate camp it's usually pretty boring. I thought there would be armada laying in wait, but there isn't. I ran around TEST systems for hours before they even bothered to come out and kill us.
"Inevitable". |
Mister S Burke
LUNA INDUSTRIES
56
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Posted - 2013.01.23 14:47:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Mister S Burke wrote: Once you get past the inevitable hisec to lowsec gate camp it's usually pretty boring. I thought there would be armada laying in wait, but there isn't. I ran around TEST systems for hours before they even bothered to come out and kill us. "Inevitable".
Ok fine, highly probable. |
March rabbit
Aliastra
502
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Posted - 2013.01.23 15:01:00 -
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LoL
my first low-sec experience was in storyline lvl3 mission. Spent like 30 minutes trying to convince my corp mates to assist and help me with this mission and getting "this is low-sec YOU SHOULDN"T GO THERE!!!". i decided i will try. rewards was too high to just forget. 20 jumps through empire and then 2-3 through low-sec.... mission over. i'm back home. nothing happened.
first my low-sec "engagement" was like first visit. I was just mining in retriever and decided to visit next low-sec system "to mine better ores". System empty, just 1 pilot in local. Warped to belt.... He is already here pointed, killed, podded. Fast and funny.
next time it was very similar. Some low-sec system. Out corp has POS there. With refining facility. OK. Got 2 retrievers, warped to belt, mining. Chatting. Watching local you say? Later! And then.... pointed, killed. Pod escaped.
It's really funny to recall such things time by time....
However i can't say it is fun or exciteful to visit low-sec. It's just dangerrous trip. Actually you can be killed everywhere. It's just more easy to be killed in low-sec than in empire. |
Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
52
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Posted - 2013.01.23 15:13:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:
However i can't say it is fun or exciteful to visit low-sec. It's just dangerrous trip. Actually you can be killed everywhere. It's just more easy to be killed in low-sec than in empire.
Low sec is empire space. Hence the gate guns, just no Concord patrols.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
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March rabbit
Aliastra
504
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Posted - 2013.01.23 15:15:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:March rabbit wrote:
However i can't say it is fun or exciteful to visit low-sec. It's just dangerrous trip. Actually you can be killed everywhere. It's just more easy to be killed in low-sec than in empire.
Low sec is empire space. Hence the gate guns, just no Concord patrols. yea, sure. i wanted to say "high-sec" there |
Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
52
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Posted - 2013.01.23 15:29:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:March rabbit wrote:
However i can't say it is fun or exciteful to visit low-sec. It's just dangerrous trip. Actually you can be killed everywhere. It's just more easy to be killed in low-sec than in empire.
Low sec is empire space. Hence the gate guns, just no Concord patrols. yea, sure. i wanted to say "high-sec" there
Your posturing and tough guy image is not actually well supported by use of the "poetic licence" card.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
March rabbit
Aliastra
505
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:30:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:March rabbit wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:March rabbit wrote:
However i can't say it is fun or exciteful to visit low-sec. It's just dangerrous trip. Actually you can be killed everywhere. It's just more easy to be killed in low-sec than in empire.
Low sec is empire space. Hence the gate guns, just no Concord patrols. yea, sure. i wanted to say "high-sec" there Your posturing and tough guy image is not actually well supported by use of the "poetic licence" card. this is offtop but... thanks for attention to my humble person. However try to make sense next time please |
Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
53
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:41:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:March rabbit wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:March rabbit wrote:
However i can't say it is fun or exciteful to visit low-sec. It's just dangerrous trip. Actually you can be killed everywhere. It's just more easy to be killed in low-sec than in empire.
Low sec is empire space. Hence the gate guns, just no Concord patrols. yea, sure. i wanted to say "high-sec" there Your posturing and tough guy image is not actually well supported by use of the "poetic licence" card. this is offtop but... thanks for attention to my humble person. However try to make sense next time please
The last time I made a guess as to who someone was in RL the thread got locked and the person blocked me. I have since apologized. If you would like to have the last word here I'm good with that, best of luck in Eve. FS o/
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
Laris Orwan
Industrial Solutions The Knights Templar.
42
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Posted - 2013.01.23 18:55:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:LoL
However i can't say it is fun or exciteful to visit low-sec. It's just dangerrous trip. Actually you can be killed everywhere. It's just more easy to be killed in low-sec than in empire.
The danger is the excitement :) |
Fasturian Icildentirf
T.N.T ORE Industry The Irukandji
1
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:31:00 -
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I moved to lowsec pretty early since I had RL friends with a pirate corp. I learned my way around Heydelies, Indregulle, Murethand, Actee, Yvangier, Amane, Abune, and Estaunitte. For shopping most of the time we went to Oursulaert. My original corp isn't really active anymore, and I have lived in high sec, null sec, and WH space as well. Even though my current home is in Null I still fondly remember my early days in lowsec.
--Okay technically a couple of the above aren't lowsec, but you couldn't get to Estaunitte without going through those two. Q: What does IT humor have in common with a classical star schema?A: They are both highly denormalized.-á |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
296
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Posted - 2013.01.23 23:57:00 -
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Lowsec is as boring as you make it yourself. There's more to the place then just pew pew. If you have an entire corp "living off the land" as it where, there's always someone that needs a hand to scout a gate, move some crap, fuel some tower, or wants to camp a gate with you. Plus you get to point and laugh at everyone else being paranoid and greedy, as your income sucks anyway untill some dude decides it's a good idea to transport a few mil in implants in a paper Iteron over your favourite gate.
Most people that tell you to avoid low/null/wh on account of risk vs reward, overestimate these risks. The more you go to these places, the more you get used to them and the more you realize how easy staying alive truly is. Survival chances are entirely relative, not static, and depend very much on player knowledge (how do I make a safe? What's the range on sentry guns?) and even your diplomatic skills.
The thing is that lowsec is more unpredictable then highsec, while still very accessable to new players and small corps. Whenever you are undocked or not at a POS it requires a high level of attention to survive. Once you are accustomed to the methods involved (d-scan, combat probes, safespots) even that can become boring, so set some meta-goals for yourself. Make 100 mil purely by piracy. Invent using Blueprints found in lowsec sites. Colonize a few planets. Suck up a system-¦s ISK faucets before rival corporations do. Build a POS and supply a service to your corp. Just some ideas for future ventures! Good luck |
Castilio
Terrific Wormhole Adventure Time
0
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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:13:00 -
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Risk if always rewarding. I've made a move towards lowsec a few days ago and fitted a cruiser and frig for PvP. Going to look for fights and learn about "how to not die so often" from now on. |
Nicor Syke'Nexen
16
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:45:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:Nicor Syke'Nexen wrote:
or just go in anything that can fit a covops cloak and lol @ the silly futility of gate campers.
You don't need a covops to sneak by camps. Cloak/MWD trick with some stabs and a cruiser or fast BC will do fine. I get caught sometimes when I warp into a large camp and my hands start to sweat and shake and I screw up the timing, but I wouldnt give that up for anything. Screw Cov-ops, learn how to fly.
oh i know the trick well. i've actually never been caught using it.
in fact, i've never been caught, period.
but i still prefer covops because, why worry? |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
1230
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:53:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Lowsec is as boring as you make it yourself. There's more to the place then just pew pew. If you have an entire corp "living off the land" as it where, there's always someone that needs a hand to scout a gate, move some crap, fuel some tower, or wants to camp a gate with you. Plus you get to point and laugh at everyone else being paranoid and greedy, as your income sucks anyway untill some dude decides it's a good idea to transport a few mil in implants in a paper Iteron over your favourite gate. Most people that tell you to avoid low/null/wh on account of risk vs reward, overestimate these risks. The more you go to these places, the more you get used to them and the more you realize how easy staying alive truly is. Survival chances are entirely relative, not static, and depend very much on player knowledge (how do I make a safe? What's the range on sentry guns?) and even your diplomatic skills. The thing is that lowsec is more unpredictable then highsec, while still very accessable to new players and small corps. Whenever you are undocked or not at a POS it requires a high level of attention to survive. Once you are accustomed to the methods involved (d-scan, combat probes, safespots) even that can become boring, so set some meta-goals for yourself. Make 100 mil purely by piracy. Invent using Blueprints found in lowsec sites. Colonize a few planets. Suck up a system-¦s ISK faucets before rival corporations do. Build a POS and supply a service to your corp. Just some ideas for future ventures! Good luck
This post is the best post.
I used to be terrified of the lowsec gates, even though I had to go through them all the time.
Now that I have an idea of what to expect, I am no longer terrified. ****, I even mine in lowsec sometimes, now that I know the various tricks that are hard to teach but necessary to learn.
The simple fact of the matter is that outside of certain very particular gates that are known to be magnets for easy-to-kill loot pinatas, no one in their right mind is going to keep up a camp in a low-sec system forever. You might find us getting bored and not being set up for a full roam, and so a camp happens. In this case, having a scout will save you. Wait out the nasty pirates, and then continue about your day as normal.
Sometimes you might run into some PvPers heading out on a roam, and mistake them for a gate camp. This is MUCH more common in my experience. Thankfully for you, this is a good thing, because they aren't going to be there for more than a couple of minutes at the outset. In addition, since they are looking for a fight, chances are they aren't going to be set up with an instalocking infinipoint HIC. If you're in something fast and quick, you will probably make it through (the only time we catch lone frigates on roams is if the frigate pilot makes a mistake. We'll TRY to catch you, fail, shrug, and then move on in search of tastier prey. |
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