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Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
175
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Posted - 2013.01.22 19:44:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/sandbox/freedom-fighter/
-+Our fight against tyranny is hard but our cause will never die
Everyone wants to be freedom fighter. Just as we have more Brigadier Generals, than grunts, we have huge number of "freedom fighters" harassing the tyrants and their lackeys who are not only a minority, but practically extinct. You can travel through Metropolis and meet many kind players who are staunch supporters of the Minmatar Republic, even though not enlisted in FW. There are no corps left in EVE outside of militia, who roleplay Amarr supporters. Of course, the real question is when will CCP make Amarr a "pirate" faction whose only purpose is to provide NPC targets.  |

Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin
223
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Posted - 2013.01.22 19:51:00 -
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Posting in a cynthia thread but.........
:P
Couldn't agree more. RP is so binary for the amarr and minmatar factions. SLAVERS vs SLAVES... it's not actually like that but its all the newbies see. You'd think it doesn't make a differance but it does :(
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
329
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Posted - 2013.01.22 19:56:00 -
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Cynthia Nezmor wrote:There are no corps left in EVE outside of militia, who roleplay Amarr supporters.
Did CVA join the amarr militia?
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Lex Fasces
New Eden Renegades Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
41
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Posted - 2013.01.22 20:11:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Cynthia Nezmor wrote:There are no corps left in EVE outside of militia, who roleplay Amarr supporters. Did CVA join the amarr militia?
then left
really cva should be in the milita and UK should be in the other... |

Tsobai Hashimoto
FATAL Warfare Hopeless Addiction
99
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Posted - 2013.01.22 20:30:00 -
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Cynthia Nezmor wrote:http://www.eveonline.com/sandbox/freedom-fighter/ -+Our fight against tyranny is hard but our cause will never dieEveryone wants to be freedom fighter. Just as we have more Brigadier Generals, than grunts, we have huge number of "freedom fighters" harassing the tyrants and their lackeys who are not only a minority, but practically extinct. You can travel through Metropolis and meet many kind players who are staunch supporters of the Minmatar Republic, even though not enlisted in FW. There are no corps left in EVE outside of militia, who roleplay Amarr supporters. Of course, the real question is when will CCP make Amarr a "pirate" faction whose only purpose is to provide NPC targets. 
99 Minmatar Slaves in my hold, 99 Minmatar slaves.....eject one out, watch it float about...... 98 Minmatar Slaves in my hold!
98 Minmatar Slaves in my hold, 98 Minmatar slaves......eject one out, watch it float about....... 97 Minmatar Slaves in my hold!
97 Minmatar Slaves in my hold, 97 Minmatar slaves....ad nauseam!
but we have the best theme song remix!!! |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
329
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Posted - 2013.01.22 20:39:00 -
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Lex Fasces wrote:chatgris wrote:Cynthia Nezmor wrote:There are no corps left in EVE outside of militia, who roleplay Amarr supporters. Did CVA join the amarr militia? then left really cva should be in the milita and UK should be in the other...
Well, then there are corps left in EVE outside of militia who roleplay Amarr. |

Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
973
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Posted - 2013.01.22 21:00:00 -
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Storyline could be better. Make Minmatar genocidal or something. |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
329
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Posted - 2013.01.22 21:10:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:Storyline could be better. Make Minmatar genocidal or something.
Well, they're already tribal. That's what turned me off of them and to the Gallente. |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1121
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Posted - 2013.01.22 21:19:00 -
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Cynthia Nezmor wrote:http://www.eveonline.com/sandbox/freedom-fighter/ -+Our fight against tyranny is hard but our cause will never dieEveryone wants to be freedom fighter. Just as we have more Brigadier Generals, than grunts, we have huge number of "freedom fighters" harassing the tyrants and their lackeys who are not only a minority, but practically extinct. You can travel through Metropolis and meet many kind players who are staunch supporters of the Minmatar Republic, even though not enlisted in FW. There are no corps left in EVE outside of militia, who roleplay Amarr supporters. Of course, the real question is when will CCP make Amarr a "pirate" faction whose only purpose is to provide NPC targets. 
Didn't I see you station camping in Hek yesterday?
Hmmm... That has awesomesauce written all over it. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |

Milton Middleson
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
228
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Posted - 2013.01.22 21:22:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:Storyline could be better. Make Minmatar genocidal or something.
The Minmatar are already socially backwards, extremely tribalistic, violent, and furnish a massive fraction of New Eden's criminal and pirate population.
They only look good because they get to stand next to the Amarr, who appear to have been carefully crafted to be as repulsive as possible to an inhabitant of a 21st century western nation. |

Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
176
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Posted - 2013.01.22 21:26:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Lex Fasces wrote:chatgris wrote:Cynthia Nezmor wrote:There are no corps left in EVE outside of militia, who roleplay Amarr supporters. Did CVA join the amarr militia? then left really cva should be in the milita and UK should be in the other... Well, then there are corps left in EVE outside of militia who roleplay Amarr.
Calling my corp Federal Docking Union and use it to awox frogs does make me a gallente supporter? |

Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
176
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Posted - 2013.01.22 21:27:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Cynthia Nezmor wrote:http://www.eveonline.com/sandbox/freedom-fighter/ -+Our fight against tyranny is hard but our cause will never dieEveryone wants to be freedom fighter. Just as we have more Brigadier Generals, than grunts, we have huge number of "freedom fighters" harassing the tyrants and their lackeys who are not only a minority, but practically extinct. You can travel through Metropolis and meet many kind players who are staunch supporters of the Minmatar Republic, even though not enlisted in FW. There are no corps left in EVE outside of militia, who roleplay Amarr supporters. Of course, the real question is when will CCP make Amarr a "pirate" faction whose only purpose is to provide NPC targets.  Didn't I see you station camping in Hek yesterday? Hmmm... That has awesomesauce written all over it.
Only 30 kills http://amarr.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15994577 |

Capitol One
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
130
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Posted - 2013.01.22 22:24:00 -
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Roleplaying a wealthy, handsome and charming slaver is so much more fun than pretending to be some poor, scruffy looking slave with shackles around his wrists!
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Inkarr Hashur
Sine Nobilitatis R.E.P.O.
162
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Posted - 2013.01.22 22:25:00 -
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Capitol One wrote:Roleplaying a wealthy, handsome and charming slaver is so much more fun than pretending to be some poor, scruffy looking slave with shackles around his wrists!
Not to mention cultured and technologically advanced. And better fashion sense. And bathed. |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
329
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Posted - 2013.01.22 23:55:00 -
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Cynthia Nezmor wrote:chatgris wrote:Lex Fasces wrote:chatgris wrote:Cynthia Nezmor wrote:There are no corps left in EVE outside of militia, who roleplay Amarr supporters. Did CVA join the amarr militia? then left really cva should be in the milita and UK should be in the other... Well, then there are corps left in EVE outside of militia who roleplay Amarr. Calling my corp Federal Docking Union and use it to awox frogs does make me a gallente supporter?
So, are you accusing CVA of not being Amarr roleplayers?
Or are you just adding a completely unrelated comment to distract from the fact that your statement is false? |

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1457
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Posted - 2013.01.23 02:52:00 -
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i gave it a try and posted something similar in the RP area a few days ago. I got a block of text as reply basically saying that slavery is indeed bad but the amarr way of slavery is cool since they are special or something. I read it twice but a am still unable to take anything positive out of the backstory. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |

Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
760
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:25:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:i gave it a try and posted something similar in the RP area a few days ago. I got a block of text as reply basically saying that slavery is indeed bad but the amarr way of slavery is cool since they are special or something. I read it twice but a am still unable to take anything positive out of the backstory.
Welcome to my world.
SP-DR is recruiting:http://spdr.enjin.com |

Super Chair
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
413
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Posted - 2013.01.23 04:25:00 -
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I thought the amarr and minmatar imbalance was that the amarr can beat a minmatar gang outnumbered and then tell the minmatar gang why they lost (such as, don't shoot thermal and kinetic at an eagle with SFI's and Cerbs) but the minmatar still get butthurt because they lost the engagement, even though they "learned" (using the term loosely here) something from it. Project Cerberus is recruiting for the US Timezone, click here |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
983
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Posted - 2013.01.23 05:28:00 -
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Slavery and fascism are indeed bad, and you should feel bad for supporting them. (lolrp > rp) |

Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
489
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Posted - 2013.01.23 09:21:00 -
[20] - Quote
Except you're forgetting the fact that Minmatar are pretty much the Al-Qaeda of EVE.
The moar you cry the less you pee |

Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
77
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Posted - 2013.01.23 09:58:00 -
[21] - Quote
Pinky Feldman wrote:Except you're forgetting the fact that Minmatar are pretty much the Al-Qaeda of EVE.
durka durka  |

marketjacker
Mafia Redux
48
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Posted - 2013.01.23 10:00:00 -
[22] - Quote
Ban FW |

Hidden Snake
Genco Fatal Ascension
251
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Posted - 2013.01.23 10:13:00 -
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RP ....rly? orly? zomfgrly? 
FW is isk farm now ... nothing more nothing less
Lowsec is da place Based on CCPs conflict of interests I propose all who protest agains CCP Fozzie behaviour ad this to your sig.-á HIGH FIVE is LOW FIVE CCP.-á |

Merely Runaway
The Flowing Penguins Iron Oxide.
9
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Posted - 2013.01.23 10:26:00 -
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Capitol One wrote:Roleplaying a wealthy, handsome and charming slaver is so much more fun than pretending to be some poor, scruffy looking slave with shackles around his wrists!
Just because we're no longer wage slaves, refusing to pay the mortgage company and barricading the doors and windows against the bailiffs doesn't mean we're scruffy. We have style.
http://truth.rust-in-pieces.org/#1.8
And no we're nothing like Al-qaeda. That is a lazy fatuous analogy. |

marketjacker
Mafia Redux
48
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Posted - 2013.01.23 10:32:00 -
[25] - Quote
Hidden Snake wrote:RP ....rly? orly? zomfgrly?  FW is isk farm now ... nothing more nothing less Lowsec is da place
Your part of FA, you live in an isk farm. |

Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
199
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Posted - 2013.01.23 11:12:00 -
[26] - Quote
Merely Runaway wrote:Capitol One wrote:Roleplaying a wealthy, handsome and charming slaver is so much more fun than pretending to be some poor, scruffy looking slave with shackles around his wrists!
Just because we're no longer wage slaves, refusing to pay the mortgage company and barricading the doors and windows against the bailiffs doesn't mean we're scruffy. We have style. http://truth.rust-in-pieces.org/#1.8And no we're nothing like Al-qaeda. That is a lazy fatuous analogy.
lol, great pic :) |

Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
177
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:21:00 -
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chatgris wrote:
So, are you accusing CVA of not being Amarr roleplayers?
Or are you just adding a completely unrelated comment to distract from the fact that your statement is false?
I dont see CVA dropping a few supers for easy capital kills whenever minmatar deploy their caps even when anyone even remotely caring about Amarr faction knows the time. I also only see their allies coming into plexes to kill Amarr militia. Accusing, really?  |

Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
177
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:22:00 -
[28] - Quote
marketjacker wrote:Hidden Snake wrote:RP ....rly? orly? zomfgrly?  FW is isk farm now ... nothing more nothing less Lowsec is da place Your part of FA, you live in an isk farm.
Quoting my favourite Tengu pilot for more free ships. GÖÑ |

Insenia Rascope
Sanguinary Photon
8
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Posted - 2013.01.23 14:38:00 -
[29] - Quote
We are capsuleers, demi-gods compared to normal human beings. What else should we do then enslave them? The only thing Minmatar supporters do is lower themselves to the level of lesser beings, while Amarr sees the true value of the things we call slaves. The reason why Amarr has so little support outside the militia is the fact that everyone who has heard the call-to-arms from God has anwsered and joined in the struggle against the heathens. |

Odhinn Vinlandii
Gothic Fleet
0
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Posted - 2013.01.24 18:22:00 -
[30] - Quote
I do not see the slave issue at all.
I see imperialistic totalitarian moral-dictatorship Christians /versus/ organic tribal heathen humans. |

Mikhael Taron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2013.01.24 18:45:00 -
[31] - Quote
Inkarr Hashur wrote:Capitol One wrote:Roleplaying a wealthy, handsome and charming slaver is so much more fun than pretending to be some poor, scruffy looking slave with shackles around his wrists!
Not to mention cultured and technologically advanced. And better fashion sense. And bathed.
The Amarr are the Roman church in space. They wear hoods so you can't see them leering at your children. Everyone knows that!
You can fool some of the people all of the time. You can fool all of the people some of the time. You can make a fool out of yourself anytime.
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Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
84
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:12:00 -
[32] - Quote
Mikhael Taron wrote:The Amarr are the Roman church in space. They wear hoods so you can't see them leering at your children. Everyone knows that!
so? like you never have done that!!!
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Xuixien
Perkone Caldari State
234
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:58:00 -
[33] - Quote
My time spent running with the Minmatar, though informative, has proven itself to be an error of youth; nothing more than a foolish act of animal rebellion against the order of civilization. I am older now, and wiser. Though there are individual Minmatar of whom I am still fond, most of the lot has proven themselves to be nothing more than traitorous, self-serving mongrels, allowing their own petty jealousies to divide them. During my time in the Minmatar Militia, the Matari spent just as much time shooting at rival groups as they did shooting the Amarr. It is only by sheer numbers that the Matari are able to hold any portion of the warzone. I was once impressed by the brash swagger and strut of a Brutor male; but now I see it for what it truly is - nothing but mere posturing. A true warrior, with true skill, needn't boast. ... I know very few Amarr who need pound their chest on the battlefield.
It is for these and many more reasons that I have moved my assets to Amarr space and look forward to serving the Empire on the battlefield; I know that my prowess in combat will only improve alongside my Amarrian colleagues, and I will be serving a just and noble cause for the glory of God.
Amarr Victor! Everyone vs Everyone Xuixien - Space Cat, Queen of Rens |

senior moment
Sefem Ortus Swift Angels Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.01.27 21:37:00 -
[34] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:My time spent running with the Minmatar, though informative, has proven itself to be an error of youth; nothing more than a foolish act of animal rebellion against the order of civilization. I am older now, and wiser. Though there are individual Minmatar of whom I am still fond, most of the lot has proven themselves to be nothing more than traitorous, self-serving mongrels, allowing their own petty jealousies to divide them. During my time in the Minmatar Militia, the Matari spent just as much time shooting at rival groups as they did shooting the Amarr. It is only by sheer numbers that the Matari are able to hold any portion of the warzone. I was once impressed by the brash swagger and strut of a Brutor male; but now I see it for what it truly is - nothing but mere posturing. A true warrior, with true skill, needn't boast. ... I know very few Amarr who need pound their chest on the battlefield.
It is for these and many more reasons that I have moved my assets to Amarr space and look forward to serving the Empire on the battlefield; I know that my prowess in combat will only improve alongside my Amarrian colleagues, and I will be serving a just and noble cause for the glory of God.
Amarr Victor!
LMAO... only reason you moved as LP at T2 is bad and you get higher LP by moving to Amarr which is higher.. I am sure you will see the error in your ways and return when the tide turns..
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Xuixien
Perkone Caldari State
234
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Posted - 2013.01.27 22:14:00 -
[35] - Quote
senior moment wrote:Xuixien wrote:My time spent running with the Minmatar, though informative, has proven itself to be an error of youth; nothing more than a foolish act of animal rebellion against the order of civilization. I am older now, and wiser. Though there are individual Minmatar of whom I am still fond, most of the lot has proven themselves to be nothing more than traitorous, self-serving mongrels, allowing their own petty jealousies to divide them. During my time in the Minmatar Militia, the Matari spent just as much time shooting at rival groups as they did shooting the Amarr. It is only by sheer numbers that the Matari are able to hold any portion of the warzone. I was once impressed by the brash swagger and strut of a Brutor male; but now I see it for what it truly is - nothing but mere posturing. A true warrior, with true skill, needn't boast. ... I know very few Amarr who need pound their chest on the battlefield.
It is for these and many more reasons that I have moved my assets to Amarr space and look forward to serving the Empire on the battlefield; I know that my prowess in combat will only improve alongside my Amarrian colleagues, and I will be serving a just and noble cause for the glory of God.
Amarr Victor! LMAO... only reason you moved as LP at T2 is bad and you get higher LP by moving to Amarr which is higher.. I am sure you will see the error in your ways and return when the tide turns..
My former corp, Rifterlings, and Swift Angels lived in the same system; Sirekur. Our relationship was always cordial and supportive of each other. But now, behold the treachery of the Matari in this one's venomous words.
Believe it or not "senior moment", I still fight for the freedom of the Matari - to free them from the chains of the true slavery of poverty and darkness and to steer them on the path to God. Everyone vs Everyone Xuixien - Space Cat, Queen of Rens |

kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
200
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Posted - 2013.01.27 22:20:00 -
[36] - Quote
Right.
Don't worry people Xuixien is the matari equivalent of Cynthia, except more treacherous and low life. |

Xuixien
Perkone Caldari State
234
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Posted - 2013.01.27 22:31:00 -
[37] - Quote
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Right.
Don't worry people Xuixien is the matari equivalent of Cynthia, except more treacherous and low life.
These words are coming from a pilot in a corporation who's leadership saw fit to leave Ushra'Khan simply because the executor said "I like Xuixien and the rest of Rifterlings." Such is the chaotic and egotistical nature of the Matari people. Everyone vs Everyone Xuixien - Space Cat, Queen of Rens |

kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
200
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Posted - 2013.01.27 22:43:00 -
[38] - Quote
Yes, especially since that turned out to be the right move. Thank you for proving our point. |

Xuixien
Perkone Caldari State
235
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Posted - 2013.01.27 22:52:00 -
[39] - Quote
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Yes, especially since that turned out to be the right move. Thank you for proving our point.
I believe it was the reasoning for the decision in question, not the unintended outcomes of the decision. It's a fine point, and I don't blame you for missing it.
Thank you. Everyone vs Everyone Xuixien - Space Cat, Queen of Rens |

kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
200
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Posted - 2013.01.27 22:56:00 -
[40] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Yes, especially since that turned out to be the right move. Thank you for proving our point. I believe it was the reasoning for the decision in question, not the unintended outcomes. It's a fine point, and I don't blame you for missing it. Thank you.
No it was the right move regardless. I corp needs an alliance that stands behind it regardless of the executors personal feelings toward someone. DeT made the right move at the time and it is still the right move. It's a fine point. |

Xuixien
Perkone Caldari State
235
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Posted - 2013.01.27 22:59:00 -
[41] - Quote
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Xuixien wrote:kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Yes, especially since that turned out to be the right move. Thank you for proving our point. I believe it was the reasoning for the decision in question, not the unintended outcomes. It's a fine point, and I don't blame you for missing it. Thank you. No it was the right move regardless. I corp needs an alliance that stands behind it regardless of the executors personal feelings toward someone. DeT made the right move at the time and it is still the right move. It's a fine point.
Like an insecure husband who gets mad whenever his wife speaks to a male coworker. I said the Matari were a jealous, self-serving people, and your words here have proven it for me nicely. Thank you. Everyone vs Everyone Xuixien - Space Cat, Queen of Rens |

kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
200
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:07:00 -
[42] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Xuixien wrote:kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Yes, especially since that turned out to be the right move. Thank you for proving our point. I believe it was the reasoning for the decision in question, not the unintended outcomes. It's a fine point, and I don't blame you for missing it. Thank you. No it was the right move regardless. I corp needs an alliance that stands behind it regardless of the executors personal feelings toward someone. DeT made the right move at the time and it is still the right move. It's a fine point. Like an insecure husband who gets mad whenever his wife speaks to a male coworker. I said the Matari were a jealous, self-serving people, and your words here have proven it for me nicely. Thank you.
I am not going to continue this tit for tat. Your opinion is irrelevant. |

Xuixien
Perkone Caldari State
235
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:09:00 -
[43] - Quote
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Xuixien wrote:kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Xuixien wrote:kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Yes, especially since that turned out to be the right move. Thank you for proving our point. I believe it was the reasoning for the decision in question, not the unintended outcomes. It's a fine point, and I don't blame you for missing it. Thank you. No it was the right move regardless. I corp needs an alliance that stands behind it regardless of the executors personal feelings toward someone. DeT made the right move at the time and it is still the right move. It's a fine point. Like an insecure husband who gets mad whenever his wife speaks to a male coworker. I said the Matari were a jealous, self-serving people, and your words here have proven it for me nicely. Thank you. I am not going to continue this tit for tat. Your opinion is irrelevant.
Concession accepted. Everyone vs Everyone Xuixien - Space Cat, Queen of Rens |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
795
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:14:00 -
[44] - Quote
Zarnak Wulf wrote:Storyline could be better. Make Minmatar genocidal or something.
You mean they're not already? EvE Forum Bingo |

Babar Baboli
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
19
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Posted - 2013.01.29 10:14:00 -
[45] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:
Concession accepted.
Stop bickering! :'(
Are you Amarr scum now xui? :( |

Derek Wiildstar
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
9
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Posted - 2013.01.29 10:21:00 -
[46] - Quote
I'm pretty sure the amarr kidnapped our legion of plex farmers. Half the people I run out of plexs are stabbed and have a cloak.
I think the critical mass goes to whichever faction can create the best habitat for the farmers. |

Babar Baboli
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
19
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Posted - 2013.01.29 10:25:00 -
[47] - Quote
Derek Wiildstar wrote:I'm pretty sure the amarr kidnapped our legion of plex farmers. Half the people I run out of plexs are stabbed and have a cloak.
I think the critical mass goes to whichever faction can create the best habitat for the farmers.
Wouldn't they all join Minmatar then? More ISK per LP and way more plexes to run. |

Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
1000
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Posted - 2013.01.29 12:37:00 -
[48] - Quote
Derek Wiildstar wrote:I'm pretty sure the amarr kidnapped our legion of plex farmers. Half the people I run out of plexs are stabbed and have a cloak.
I think the critical mass goes to whichever faction can create the best habitat for the farmers.
Seeing the other side of the equation is good for you. It will put hair on your chest. |

Halete
Alexylva Paradox
629
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:12:00 -
[49] - Quote
Could have sworn that this was going to be a thread about FW being fundamentally unbalanced by Cynthia's Quint-boxing.
Since we're talking from essentially an RP perspective -
Most of the Minmatar in FW (Electus Matari aside - but they live in their own personal bubble anyway) are extremists if not outright genocidal already. So I'm not sure what Zarnak was getting at with his proposition to make Minnies genocidal.
The Republic gets painted too nicely, really. Could even things out if more attention was given to the stories of the Republic race riots - the Minmatar inherently a xenophobic, fractured race - the beating to death of their fellow Minmatar who preach the Amarr faith, the razing of peaceful Amarr settlements, the constant failings of the Republic to look after it's own people, etc.
Remember - the Amarr and the Minmatar had signed a peace treaty. The Minmatar broke that treaty. They're the terrorists.
Trading chains for shackles, I am free. |

Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
1001
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:40:00 -
[50] - Quote
Halete wrote:Could have sworn that this was going to be a thread about FW being fundamentally unbalanced by Cynthia's Quint-boxing.
Since we're talking from essentially an RP perspective -
Most of the Minmatar in FW (Electus Matari aside - but they live in their own personal bubble anyway) are extremists if not outright genocidal already. So I'm not sure what Zarnak was getting at with his proposition to make Minnies genocidal.
The Republic gets painted too nicely, really. Could even things out if more attention was given to the stories of the Republic race riots - the Minmatar inherently a xenophobic, fractured race - the beating to death of their fellow Minmatar who preach the Amarr faith, the razing of peaceful Amarr settlements, the constant failings of the Republic to look after it's own people, etc.
Remember - the Amarr and the Minmatar had signed a peace treaty. The Minmatar broke that treaty. They're the terrorists.
You essentially repeated my point. Minmatar and the republic are painted too nicely. When someone joins FW on this side they have a choice between:
Minority Ex-Slaves Rebels Nominal Republic
Vs.
Mostly white Religious fanatics Slave Owners Monarchy
It doesn't get more black and white then that. It shouldn't be black and white. Most players don't roleplay but it is hard not to be subconsciously affected. Quite a few people joined Minmatar first before realizing they really weren't the underdogs and switching sides- myself included. |

Halete
Alexylva Paradox
629
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:50:00 -
[51] - Quote
Reading comprehension fail on my part; yeah, got to agree. EVE is meant to be a 'shades of grey' environment, CCP really ****** the duck on that when they wrote the Minmatar/Amarr war. The grey is there, but your average player isn't going to search for it. Trading chains for shackles, I am free. |

Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
158
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Posted - 2013.02.01 11:02:00 -
[52] - Quote
Who cares about the God or freedom or whatever, Amarrians pay better.
Besides, when you doubt the will of the Empress, consult "Raise the Flag" video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5-b9TioIto |

dexington
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
559
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Posted - 2013.02.01 11:47:00 -
[53] - Quote
Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Everyone wants to be freedom fighter.
You make it sound like it's a bad thing, it just means it's easier to find someone to fight. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |

Xolve
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1329
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:17:00 -
[54] - Quote
Babar Baboli wrote:Wouldn't they all join Minmatar then? More ISK per LP and way more plexes to run.
Because all the cool kids in Null are using Napocs as a line ship for their fleet doctrines- so they are actually worth more than Minmatar Faction ships- so while plexing for Minmatar might have more LP available, plexing for Amarr has a higher LP/ISK ratio right now.
Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Mary Won-Na
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.02.03 18:13:00 -
[55] - Quote
Zarnak Wulf wrote:Halete wrote:Could have sworn that this was going to be a thread about FW being fundamentally unbalanced by Cynthia's Quint-boxing.
Since we're talking from essentially an RP perspective -
Most of the Minmatar in FW (Electus Matari aside - but they live in their own personal bubble anyway) are extremists if not outright genocidal already. So I'm not sure what Zarnak was getting at with his proposition to make Minnies genocidal.
The Republic gets painted too nicely, really. Could even things out if more attention was given to the stories of the Republic race riots - the Minmatar inherently a xenophobic, fractured race - the beating to death of their fellow Minmatar who preach the Amarr faith, the razing of peaceful Amarr settlements, the constant failings of the Republic to look after it's own people, etc.
Remember - the Amarr and the Minmatar had signed a peace treaty. The Minmatar broke that treaty. They're the terrorists.
You essentially repeated my point. Minmatar and the republic are painted too nicely. When someone joins FW on this side they have a choice between: Minority Ex-Slaves Rebels Nominal Republic Vs. Mostly white Religious fanatics Slave Owners Monarchy It doesn't get more black and white then that. It shouldn't be black and white. Most players don't roleplay but it is hard not to be subconsciously affected. Quite a few people joined Minmatar first before realizing they really weren't the underdogs and switching sides- myself included.
RL isn't black and white but most people in RL see the world in black and white.
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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
516
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Posted - 2013.02.03 21:38:00 -
[56] - Quote
Mary Won-Na wrote:RL isn't black and white but most people in RL see the world in black and white. What do you mean? The world is two fences, one on either side of a bottomless chasm .. the media says as much every minute of every day .. are you saying that the state of affairs is being misrepresented by the watchdogs of society!?!?!!111  |

Super Chair
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
423
|
Posted - 2013.02.03 23:31:00 -
[57] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:My time spent running with the Minmatar, though informative, has proven itself to be an error of youth; nothing more than a foolish act of animal rebellion against the order of civilization. I am older now, and wiser. Though there are individual Minmatar of whom I am still fond, most of the lot has proven themselves to be nothing more than traitorous, self-serving mongrels, allowing their own petty jealousies to divide them. During my time in the Minmatar Militia, the Matari spent just as much time shooting at rival groups as they did shooting the Amarr. It is only by sheer numbers that the Matari are able to hold any portion of the warzone. I was once impressed by the brash swagger and strut of a Brutor male; but now I see it for what it truly is - nothing but mere posturing. A true warrior, with true skill, needn't boast. ... I know very few Amarr who need pound their chest on the battlefield.
It is for these and many more reasons that I have moved my assets to Amarr space and look forward to serving the Empire on the battlefield; I know that my prowess in combat will only improve alongside my Amarrian colleagues, and I will be serving a just and noble cause for the glory of God.
Amarr Victor!
You joined the right group of guys. They're fun to fly with and you will learn a lot from them.
Project Cerberus is recruiting for the US Timezone, click here |

Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour
230
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Posted - 2013.02.04 00:09:00 -
[58] - Quote
What?!
There's an imbalance between the Amarr and Minnies?  That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
I'm NOT a Pirate! I'm a privateer! |

Mikhael Taron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.02.04 19:09:00 -
[59] - Quote
I thought the history was the Amarr invaded Matari space to bring them into the fold, and the Matar took advantage of a situation to rebel against their so-called betters. Or have I read that wrong? You can fool some of the people all of the time. You can fool all of the people some of the time. You can make a fool out of yourself anytime.
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Freddie KillerQueen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2013.02.05 14:56:00 -
[60] - Quote
As a noob I can tell you that the only reason I chose Minmatar over Amarr is that the Min's ships look better (Firefly TV series style) and I was able to wear a Freddie Mercury mustache. But I must admit that I was tempted by ships with friggin laser beams. |

Cain Aloga
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2013.02.07 23:53:00 -
[61] - Quote
Wait, is the RP talked about in here real or hyothetical? To be honest one of the reasons i joined eve was because of the rp potential between the empires, yet sadly, i have found little rp. If it exists i would definitly be interested in finding it
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Perkin Warbeck
Amarrian Space Poodles 24eme Legion Etrangere
113
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Posted - 2013.02.09 21:12:00 -
[62] - Quote
Freddie KillerQueen wrote:As a noob I can tell you that the only reason I chose Minmatar over Amarr is that the Min's ships look better (Firefly TV series style) and I was able to wear a Freddie Mercury mustache. But I must admit that I was tempted by ships with friggin laser beams. Not wanting to look like a reject from the Village People, I chose the tried and tested 'Amarrian child molestor' route. |

subtle turtle
In Exile.
103
|
Posted - 2013.02.10 06:17:00 -
[63] - Quote
Cain Aloga wrote:Wait, is the RP talked about in here real or hyothetical? To be honest one of the reasons i joined eve was because of the rp potential between the empires, yet sadly, i have found little rp. If it exists i would definitly be interested in finding it
There are a number of RP focused corps in FW, on all sides. Several pilots i my corp RP, and i know there are a number of other amarr amd minmatar corps that RP. I personaly have never been interested, but there is a significant community in eve that RPs, if it is something you are interested in it is out there for you. |

Markius TheShed
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
141
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 14:44:00 -
[64] - Quote
Cain Aloga wrote:Wait, is the RP talked about in here real or hyothetical? To be honest one of the reasons i joined eve was because of the rp potential between the empires, yet sadly, i have found little rp. If it exists i would definitly be interested in finding it
Our Tribe have been fighting Amarrian slaver scum for over 7 years let's have a chat sometime **Murientor Tribe** Killing Slavers, Ammatar and Nafantar Traitors since YC107 http://www.defiant-legacy.com/ |

Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
409
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Posted - 2013.02.13 22:43:00 -
[65] - Quote
I think the main problem with the Amarr regarding lore is that the Massive Theocratic and Hateful space empire has been done in virtually every single sci-fi setting ever. No matter what sci-fi universe you are in, someone is screaming "FOR THE EMPEROR" as they charge into battle.
The best and most prominent example of this archetype is the Imperium of Mankind from the Warhammer 40k universe.
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Imperium_of_Man
The problem with the Amarr is that they just don't bring anything new to the table, on it's own the lore is very interesting and cool, but when compared to other things, it's the same crap but with a different name. It's been done so many times that virtually everyone has seen it before. I love the Theocratic Empire idea, but as an avid Warhammer 40k fan and Star Wars fan, I've played the douchey imperial roll dozens of times.
As to why the Minmatar is popular is also easily explained. First off they are the underdogs, the rebels, the freedom fighters. Many nations started out this way and it is embedded in the culture of those nations to sympathize with these groups. The rebel faction has been done many times as well, surely people would be turned off by this. However the twist on the Minmatar is that they were slaves who gained thier independence (mostly) on their own. You don't see that a lot on a sci-fi universe. Same goes for a tribal society with a rather unstable government. You don't really expect what is essentially a third world country to be such a major player in a sci-fi universe. CCP added a twist to a common theme, and it turned out to be very interesting.
The other two factions are fairly original but not entirely. The Gallente Federation is basically just Space America, not much interesting stuff there. The Hypercapitalist Caldari are rather original, it's been done before but not a lot and certainly not in the way EVE portrays them. This is why the Caldari are the most popular race in EVE, they just seem so much more new and interesting than the others. Also, there hasn't really been a country where the corporations have 100% control in history which also makes the Caldari rather unique in EVE.
The Gallente Caldai war is also much more interesting than the Minmatar rebellion in my opinion. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |

Bum Shadow
Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
21
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Posted - 2013.02.13 22:54:00 -
[66] - Quote
In my mind, i treat the amarr like the imperium of man from warhammer 40k. Makes them far more fun to play.
Dang shoulda read the above post first >.< |

Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
409
|
Posted - 2013.02.13 23:20:00 -
[67] - Quote
Bum Shadow wrote:In my mind, i treat the amarr like the imperium of man from warhammer 40k. Makes them far more fun to play.
Dang shoulda read the above post first >.<
I don't care what the hardcore Amarr RPers say. There is no God and an Emperor. Both are the same entity and have amazing hair. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
205
|
Posted - 2013.02.14 03:22:00 -
[68] - Quote
The big turn off people joining or supporting Amarr is due to them being the religious nutters in the game.
It makes no sense to a new player that immortal people who can travel in space would believe in magical space fairies.
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
322
|
Posted - 2013.02.14 09:25:00 -
[69] - Quote
IbanezLaney wrote:The big turn off people joining or supporting Amarr is due to them being the religious nutters in the game.
It makes no sense to a new player that immortal people who can travel in space would believe in magical space fairies.
Why not, after all the largest and most powerful space empire in the game bases its whole civilisation on it, whats wrong with a few podpilots decidng its good for them too. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome |

Eugene Bugblatter
Minmatar-Amarr Man-Boy Love Association
0
|
Posted - 2013.02.14 23:26:00 -
[70] - Quote
We here at MAMBLA believe that roleplay has a great role to play (no pun intended) in bringing Amarr and Minmatar together for fulfilling and deep interpersonal interactions. Whether you are a carefree young slave, oiling your dreadlocks with Dr Bubbles Patented Cotton Tonic and pondering the emptiness of your life lived alone on the spacelanes, or a spacefaring warrior bishop with underwear troubles in need of a special hug from his special indentred servant, we here at MAMBLA can provide you with ideas to spice up your pod life. Out and Proud sine Feb 14th 2013! |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
211
|
Posted - 2013.02.15 01:28:00 -
[71] - Quote
Darek Castigatus wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:The big turn off people joining or supporting Amarr is due to them being the religious nutters in the game.
It makes no sense to a new player that immortal people who can travel in space would believe in magical space fairies.
Why not, after all the largest and most powerful space empire in the game bases its whole civilisation on it, whats wrong with a few podpilots decidng its good for them too.
Largest and most powerful? Dunno about that.
The reason I gave was the exact reason I and a few others I know didn't even consider Amarr.
No one said there was anything wrong with people picking Amarr. I just said why many don't choose them.
Cause immortal people would really care about an afterlife....
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
211
|
Posted - 2013.02.15 01:43:00 -
[72] - Quote
Eugene Bugblatter wrote:We here at MAMBLA believe that roleplay has a great role to play (no pun intended) in bringing Amarr and Minmatar together for fulfilling and deep interpersonal interactions. Whether you are a carefree young slave, oiling your dreadlocks with Dr Bubbles Patented Cotton Tonic and pondering the emptiness of your life lived alone on the spacelanes, or a spacefaring warrior bishop with underwear troubles in need of a special hug from his special indentred servant, we here at MAMBLA can provide you with ideas to spice up your pod life.
Trinket alt?? Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
893
|
Posted - 2013.02.15 07:27:00 -
[73] - Quote
Filthy lies! Taking submissions for "Trinkets friendly Advice Column" via evemail or private convo in-game. Anonymity sorta guaranteed. http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
33
|
Posted - 2013.02.15 10:16:00 -
[74] - Quote
Capitol One wrote:Roleplaying a wealthy, handsome and charming slaver is so much more fun than pretending to be some poor, scruffy looking slave with shackles around his wrists!
I'm just in it for the emperor Palpatine robe. |

Johnny Twelvebore
The Tuskers
14
|
Posted - 2013.02.15 10:32:00 -
[75] - Quote
IbanezLaney wrote:Eugene Bugblatter wrote:We here at MAMBLA believe that roleplay has a great role to play (no pun intended) in bringing Amarr and Minmatar together for fulfilling and deep interpersonal interactions. Whether you are a carefree young slave, oiling your dreadlocks with Dr Bubbles Patented Cotton Tonic and pondering the emptiness of your life lived alone on the spacelanes, or a spacefaring warrior bishop with underwear troubles in need of a special hug from his special indentred servant, we here at MAMBLA can provide you with ideas to spice up your pod life. Trinket alt??
TF would have spelled indentured correctly.. |

Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
424
|
Posted - 2013.02.17 19:58:00 -
[76] - Quote
IbanezLaney wrote:
Cause immortal people would really care about an afterlife....
Don't forget that capsuleers make up less than 1% of the population of New Eden. For the vast majority of people in New Eden permanent death is a very real and extremely likely fate. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1047
|
Posted - 2013.02.17 19:59:00 -
[77] - Quote
Fredfredbug4 wrote:Don't forget that capsuleers make up less than 1% of the population of New Eden. For the vast majority of people in New Eden permanent death is a very real and extremely likely fate. I'll keep this in mind the next time I roll an Exotic Dancer as my New Eden character. |

Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
1040
|
Posted - 2013.02.17 20:16:00 -
[78] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:Don't forget that capsuleers make up less than 1% of the population of New Eden. For the vast majority of people in New Eden permanent death is a very real and extremely likely fate. I'll keep this in mind the next time I roll an Exotic Dancer as my New Eden character.
I have now decided to stear clear of all exotic dancers. Damnit. |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
908
|
Posted - 2013.02.17 23:28:00 -
[79] - Quote
IbanezLaney wrote:The big turn off people joining or supporting Amarr is due to them being the religious nutters in the game.
It makes no sense to a new player that immortal people who can travel in space would believe in magical space fairies.
"Buzz Aldrin, a Presbyterian, was the first person to hold a religious ceremony on the Moon. After landing on the Moon, he radioed Earth: 'I'd like to take this opportunity to ask every person listening in, whoever and wherever they may be, to pause for a moment and contemplate the events of the past few hours, and to give thanks in his or her own way.' He gave himself Communion on the surface of the Moon, but he kept it secret because of a lawsuit brought by atheist activist Madalyn Murray O'Hair over the reading of Genesis on Apollo 8."
EvE Forum Bingo |

IbanezLaney
the church of awesome Caldari State Capturing
223
|
Posted - 2013.02.25 05:11:00 -
[80] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:The big turn off people joining or supporting Amarr is due to them being the religious nutters in the game.
It makes no sense to a new player that immortal people who can travel in space would believe in magical space fairies. " Buzz Aldrin, a Presbyterian, was the first person to hold a religious ceremony on the Moon. After landing on the Moon, he radioed Earth: 'I'd like to take this opportunity to ask every person listening in, whoever and wherever they may be, to pause for a moment and contemplate the events of the past few hours, and to give thanks in his or her own way.' He gave himself Communion on the surface of the Moon, but he kept it secret because of a lawsuit brought by atheist activist Madalyn Murray O'Hair over the reading of Genesis on Apollo 8."
Very Interesting: Due to religious freedom Americans enjoy he could not have been sued for religious beliefs/preying.
I'm now curious as to who he thanked. The people that got him there? The ones who were gonna get him home? The scientists who designed the vehicles and early computer systems? His family for supporting him? The spacesuit designer who stopped his innards flying out his mouth and eye sockets when he left the lander?
I wonder if he thanked an imaginary fairy who had nothing to do with any of it......... hmmmmm
The Amarr/Religious Nutjobs topic is a tough one cause I could break some brains and an eula quite easily while simply discussing an in game faction.
For the safety of my subscription and forum privileges I might let this one rest and go kill god elsewhere.
o/ Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

Trinkets friend
Minmatar-Amarr Man-Boy Love Association
921
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Posted - 2013.02.25 07:22:00 -
[81] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:The big turn off people joining or supporting Amarr is due to them being the religious nutters in the game.
It makes no sense to a new player that immortal people who can travel in space would believe in magical space fairies. " Buzz Aldrin, a Presbyterian, was the first person to hold a religious ceremony on the Moon. After landing on the Moon, he radioed Earth: 'I'd like to take this opportunity to ask every person listening in, whoever and wherever they may be, to pause for a moment and contemplate the events of the past few hours, and to give thanks in his or her own way.' He gave himself Communion on the surface of the Moon, but he kept it secret because of a lawsuit brought by atheist activist Madalyn Murray O'Hair over the reading of Genesis on Apollo 8."
We should hope that PL don't read their prayers while extracting billions in rent from CCP's ridicubroken and stupid technetium monopoly AKA cash machine of the Gods. Taking submissions for "Trinkets friendly Advice Column" via evemail or private convo in-game. Anonymity sorta guaranteed. http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Alaric Faelen
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
100
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Posted - 2013.02.25 15:33:00 -
[82] - Quote
Amarr are just the designated 'bad guys' in Eve's lore, and the being bad is very popular with gamers.
It's also probably the only real RP, since I doubt any Eve player actually owns slaves, or would given the chance. So playing as a character that deplores slavery, isn't really role playing.
Just like while many Eve players may hold religious beliefs, few are raving lunatics bent on conversion thru genocide. So playing religious moderates again isn't really roleplaying. But playing a fanatic willing to burn god into the unbelievers with hot laser death....now THAT is a role to play.
Lastly, the slavery/religious role is the only one that is easily put into player interaction. The concept of 'total personal freedom' of the Gallente or the corporate hive-mind of the Caldari just don't translate well into common player conversation while playing. |

Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
527
|
Posted - 2013.02.25 16:30:00 -
[83] - Quote
Alaric Faelen wrote:Amarr are just the designated 'bad guys' in Eve's lore, and the being bad is very popular with gamers... How does wanting to civilize the cluster, bring order where there is none and save the souls of everyone so inclined translate into "bad guy"? 
Empyrean Age turned everything on its head when the Caldari State became a military dictatorship, the Federation morphed into an oligarchy and the Republic turned to fascist despotism. The "winners" (morals wise) were actually the Empire who put a clone on the throne (allegedly!!!) contrary to rules/dogma, emancipated millions of slaves and refrained from the engaging in the massive retaliatory wars of old .. that one year saw the Empire change more than it had in the thousand before it.
But generally speaking, you are right. People tend to focus only on the black/white aspects and go for the 'easy' interpretations .. bland animosity and a "No YOU! *twack*" way of interacting.
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