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StryP1
hirr RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.24 07:58:00 -
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Give us an option to "group drone attack" so sentries don't randomly each pick a single NPC target and hammer it instead of all hitting one as one would want most of the time. The current behavior serves no purpose other than to frustrate a player. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
1816
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Posted - 2013.01.24 08:08:00 -
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There is, "Engage Target" and the associated keyboard shortcut.
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Celestial One
Militant Miners
6
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Posted - 2013.01.24 09:12:00 -
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StryP1 wrote:Give us an option to "group drone attack" so sentries don't randomly each pick a single NPC target and hammer it instead of all hitting one as one would want most of the time. The current behavior serves no purpose other than to frustrate a player.
I think they should name it "Focus Fire" and they should put it under the drone options in the drone interface window so it will be easy to find. |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
6
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Posted - 2013.01.24 09:15:00 -
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Celestial One wrote:StryP1 wrote:Give us an option to "group drone attack" so sentries don't randomly each pick a single NPC target and hammer it instead of all hitting one as one would want most of the time. The current behavior serves no purpose other than to frustrate a player. I think they should name it "Focus Fire" and they should put it under the drone options in the drone interface window so it will be easy to find. the sarcasm is strong with this one |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
4030
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Posted - 2013.01.24 09:59:00 -
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Roime wrote:There is, "Engage Target" and the associated keyboard shortcut.
Works only some of the time. Other times it works temporarily until they start shooting different targets again. That's besides the point though. This shouldn't be required, since the focus fire option is already in the game.
Celestial One wrote:StryP1 wrote:Give us an option to "group drone attack" so sentries don't randomly each pick a single NPC target and hammer it instead of all hitting one as one would want most of the time. The current behavior serves no purpose other than to frustrate a player. I think they should name it "Focus Fire" and they should put it under the drone options in the drone interface window so it will be easy to find. Doesn't work. Still better then not using it, but they are going to be shooting multiple targets on a regular basis.
I know you enjoy teasing the OP with this, since technically what he wants already exists, but I've been flying an Ishtar too long to find it that amusing. The drones follow those orders only when they feel like it. It's a giant pain in the butt, since you have to babysit them, because you can't trust them to always follow your orders. Naturally this can cause all kinds of little problems and irritations like accidental spawn triggering and diluting your DPS against critical targets without you noticing. Your only working option is to choose passive behavior. That way they just go idle at times for no reason, which at least avoids some issues and allows you to immediately see, that your DPS has dropped. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1071
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Posted - 2013.01.24 11:40:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Roime wrote:There is, "Engage Target" and the associated keyboard shortcut.
Works only some of the time. Other times it works temporarily until they start shooting different targets again. That's besides the point though. This shouldn't be required, since the focus fire option is already in the game. Celestial One wrote:StryP1 wrote:Give us an option to "group drone attack" so sentries don't randomly each pick a single NPC target and hammer it instead of all hitting one as one would want most of the time. The current behavior serves no purpose other than to frustrate a player. I think they should name it "Focus Fire" and they should put it under the drone options in the drone interface window so it will be easy to find. Doesn't work. Still better then not using it, but they are going to be shooting multiple targets on a regular basis. I know you enjoy teasing the OP with this, since technically what he wants already exists, but I've been flying an Ishtar too long to find it that amusing. The drones follow those orders only when they feel like it. It's a giant pain in the butt, since you have to babysit them, because you can't trust them to always follow your orders. Naturally this can cause all kinds of little problems and irritations like accidental spawn triggering and diluting your DPS against critical targets without you noticing. Your only working option is to choose passive behavior. That way they just go idle at times for no reason, which at least avoids some issues and allows you to immediately see, that your DPS has dropped.
Exactly. It already exists, but is broken. This thread should be in issues and workarounds not features |
Hakan MacTrew
Caledonian Heavy Industries Sick N' Twisted
250
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Posted - 2013.01.24 12:04:00 -
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Drone AI in general is pretty borked. It needs serious attention, but short of ground up reworking, I don't see any fixes really helping. MODULAR DRONES
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StryP1
hirr RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:15:00 -
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If only some of the posters used Ishtar's and sentries. DS knows the issue, sentries need fixing. |
Newt Rondanse
Magnificent Mayhem Mining
5
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:49:00 -
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Sentries go split on rare occasions, usually when they get out of sync and the priority target changes between when one or two start attacking and when the rest engage.
This is clearly broken, but easily worked around so I haven't bug reported it yet. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
1857
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:53:00 -
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I use only sentry ships in PVE, and yes I acknowledge that drones are complete fucktards as what comes to following orders. But however hard you tweak and fix their stupid, they won't know what to shoot.
Manual control is the only way to ensure that they shoot the correct targets and not the triggers.
Alternatively assign them to someone else in your fleet :)
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Hakan MacTrew
Caledonian Heavy Industries Sick N' Twisted
256
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:28:00 -
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StryP1 wrote:If only some of the posters used Ishtar's and sentries. DS knows the issue, sentries need fixing. I use a Gila, does that count? MODULAR DRONES
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Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1080
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:29:00 -
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I've only been using drones for under a year and a half, but i've never had drones i've told to engage a target split to some other target. Are you talking about when you have them on aggressive? Passive + engage target and you should never have them split.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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seth Hendar
I love you miners
7
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Posted - 2013.01.28 10:38:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:I've only been using drones for under a year and a half, but i've never had drones i've told to engage a target split to some other target. Are you talking about when you have them on aggressive? Passive + engage target and you should never have them split.
i agree that on a rare occasion, drones on passive, they still split fire between the target you call and another random npc |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
516
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:25:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:Celestial One wrote:StryP1 wrote:Give us an option to "group drone attack" so sentries don't randomly each pick a single NPC target and hammer it instead of all hitting one as one would want most of the time. The current behavior serves no purpose other than to frustrate a player. I think they should name it "Focus Fire" and they should put it under the drone options in the drone interface window so it will be easy to find. the sarcasm is strong with this one
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1005
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:04:00 -
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Proposal: New Drone Skill "Drone Obedience Training".
20%/level increase in chance of drones actually doing what you command them to do. At Level 5, they obey your commands all of the time (i.e. they don't forget about current target and go chase another one instead). |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
965
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:04:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Proposal: New Drone Skill "Drone Obedience Training".
20%/level increase in chance of drones actually doing what you command them to do. At Level 5, they obey your commands all of the time (i.e. they don't forget about current target and go chase another one instead).
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
517
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:13:00 -
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Roime wrote:I use only sentry ships in PVE, and yes I acknowledge that drones are complete fucktards as what comes to following orders. But however hard you tweak and fix their stupid, they won't know what to shoot.
Manual control is the only way to ensure that they shoot the correct targets and not the triggers.
Alternatively assign them to someone else in your fleet :)
An army of Domis with sentry assigned to FC and whatever he targets dies, sentry are stupid enough unlike players to actually shoot one target at the time and volley them. Most players would simply put one gun per target just to be on that stupid KM. But CCP can't fix players.
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