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San Tawate
Finaka Industrial Group Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:49:00 -
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so im in a corp where alot of them go into the WH and theyve tried to explain it to me but im still rather confused can anyone help me understand what a wormhole is and whats inside it? |
Zanzbar
Shads Shadow
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:07:00 -
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Wormholes act as temporary stargates that lead to otherwise unreachable systems, these systems are usually what people are referring to rather than the WH itself. The wormholes will collapse after a certain time (usually about a day),or if too much mass passes through, and respawn in another location leading to a different system than before. combine this with the fact that they can only be found using scanning probes it is possible to truly become lost or trapped in WH space.
Wh space has no updated list to local chat so you never know how many people are really there trying to kill you, and aggression mechanics are very similar to that in 0.0 space. Module restrictions are also lifted so you will encounter people using bombs and war interdiction bubbles (giant spheres that you can't warp into or out of). Also there are a few types of wh properties (having a black hole, red dwarf,etc) that can alter the way yous ship behaves, such as reducing shield recharge, increasing afterburner bonuses and many others. |
San Tawate
Finaka Industrial Group Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:17:00 -
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sounds very confusing i htink ill just stick to high sec mining but they all talk about the huge asteroid belts and great ores so one day i might venture in with a small cloaked ship cuz ive always wanted to mine for mexcroite but ive been trying to figure out if its better to mine that in 0.0 space or in a WH |
Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
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Posted - 2013.01.25 20:23:00 -
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The Talocan United website has some basic guides on wormholes: http://talocanunited.com/wordpress/about-wormholes/
http://talocanunited.com/wordpress/minimum-skills-to-enter/
The EVE Wiki page on wormholes: http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Wormhole |
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
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Posted - 2013.01.25 20:31:00 -
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OK, here's the best analogy I could come up with for w-space based on what I assume you've run into as a newer player, assuming you've lived in high and low-security space.
Take high-sec.
Remove all warp beacons except at planets, moons and asteroid belts (you have to use scanning to find the system-connecting jump gates and any static structures)
The jump gates no longer connect to a _specific_ other system, they connect to a _random_ other system, which resets periodically.
Local chat now works the way the alliance or rookie help channels work, i.e. you don't see people's names in it unless they actually talk in local chat.
NPC sites are a lot more difficult, and the loot from them is similarly much more valuable per time spent obtaining it.
Basically what you've seen, but much more centered on the exploration and PvP aspects of the game. Generally as a newer player, you don't want to go into w-space alone until you're pretty well-equipped and know what you're doing with bookmarks, probing, d-scan, and so on. I mean, you can if you want, but you'll probably die and not get much loot, maybe lose a pod or two as well. |
Merouk Baas
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:22:00 -
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You see the star map? Has 5000 stars. Connected by permanent, stationary gates.
There's another map above it, that the game doesn't show. It has 2500 stars. The 2500 star systems (stars, planets, belts, etc) are permanent, but there are no gates at all. Instead of gates, temporary wormholes form to connect these 2500 stars.
Some of the wormholes connect to the regular star map, others connect just between the 2500 stars.
That's it.
If you want to live in wormhole space, you set up a base in one of these 2500 star systems. And then you have to constantly keep track of which wormholes open up for you, so you can move around. The wormhole connections change constantly.
In addition, there's no Concord. If you get attacked, you have to defend yourself as if you were in 0.0 space. |
Cyprus Black
The Learning Curve.
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:23:00 -
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San Tawate wrote:so im in a corp where alot of them go into the WH and theyve tried to explain it to me but im still rather confused can anyone help me understand what a wormhole is and whats inside it? In EvE terms.
Think of a wormhole as a solar system that's isolated in another dimension. The entrance/exit of that isolated solar system constantly closes and opens daily. The entrance/exit appears in a random location somewhere in the regular EvE universe.
Inside the wormhole solar system (which will hereafter be referred to as a WH for the sake of simplicity), you have a star, planets and moons. There are no standard asteroid belts and there are no stations. Sometimes there are customs offices, depending if someone has set one up inside in the past.
Local channel does not display who is in that WH unless that individual speaks in local (it's common practice for WH corps to forbid members from talking in local to conceal their numbers)
Everything within the WH needs to be scanned down with probes. The entrance/exit needs to be scanned down, asteroid belts need to be scanned down, other players need to be scanned down, etc.
Corporations may set up Player Owned Stations, otherwise known as POS's. They're basically a crappy version of a normal station with almost none of the functionality. It's really more of a safe place to park for members. It's also a safe place for members to store their stuff.
One of the primary money making professions within the WH is running sleeper sites. Sleepers are a different kind of NPC enemy. Very tough and require the cooperation of corpmates to destroy them. The loot they drop is valuable and are key components for construction Tech 3 ships.
Trolling is like art. Anyone can finger paint, but it takes true talent to create a masterpiece. |
San Tawate
Finaka Industrial Group Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:07:00 -
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are there more than one wormhole or is there only one in all of new eden? and how big are they? |
Forest Archer
Explorer Corps Exhale.
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Posted - 2013.01.28 03:10:00 -
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There are I believe I read 2500 whs all of which may or may not be connected to k (known space), they may also be connected to other whs. If your have any interest in getting involved in them speak to an experienced wh'er personally. Just a bit of advice from a wh'er. |
Marsan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:05:00 -
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San Tawate wrote:are there more than one wormhole or is there only one in all of new eden? and how big are they?
Remember it's confusing but sometimes when people say wormhole they mean a wormhole system (w-space) or the actual wormhole (hole) you jump through to get to a wormhole system (w-space). In general a system in Empire Space (high, low, null sec) can have 0 or more (actual) wormholes (holes) in it. These holes lead to so called w-space, or (rarely) empire space. Wormhole systems (w-space) are classified C1 to C6 (1 is "easy", 6 is really hard) , and always have at least one hole (the static), and a random number of addition holes.
A w-space system's "static" hole always leads to the same class of space w-space, high sec, low sec, or null sec systems. To make matters more confusing a "static hole" decays just like a normal wormhole, and dies, but unlike random wormholes a system's static always reappears some where in the system. Lastly to confuse things when the static reappears is points to a new system of the same type (high, null, low, or wormhole) Only w-space systems have static holes.
Holes always need to be scanned down as do mining sites, and some combat sites. http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Living_in_Wormhole_Space |
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Eternal Montage
Frontier Explorer's League Sadistica Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:57:00 -
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San Tawate wrote:sounds very confusing i htink ill just stick to high sec mining
This type of mentality doesn't last very long in Eve. If you learn it it won't be confusing anymore. I'm not even going to begin to rant about carebear mining but I will say that there are parts of highsec where this mentality WILL get you suicide ganked. No one wants you passively mining in some safe corner of highsec! That is pretty much the most hated play style in eve. If you just mine in highsec you will hate this game.
Edit: http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=169738 |
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