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Stealthiest
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:54:00 -
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FHM wrote:Tore Vest wrote:The dark side is strong in you FHM +1 Death to these crappy and useless ships, we get so much by nerfing them. We get our game back, balanced pvp, get to see all these super capital noobs cry so much knowing they cant do **** and that SC Blob is about to die. Happy times finally the game braking part is being removed.
Balanced PVP?
You are re*tard*ed.
Team "A" brings 500 drakes requiring what 3-4m sp to fly? So just go to some stupid dotcom and recruit all your stupid something awful racist jerks to join for awhile and viola you have a ready made retar*d fleet. You can go anywhere at will.
Then you go into a system like c3n with your 500 drakes and guess what. 30 SC's and 7 titans are waiting. You go to wtfpwn the csaa and you get demolished. Thats the way it should be in a sandbox.
Because you can be stopped with your 500 drake bots with heartbeats you run to forums and whine like little bitches saying that the game is broken blah blah blah.
We are too scared/incapable/poor/small etc to defeat our enemy so DEV's do something to balance gthe game so we can win even tho we don't deserve it.
You calling everyone arguement stupid proves my point about small minded whiny little bitches. You once flew in a fleet and got lagged out and instead of blaming the 500-900 drake bots you blame SC's etc.
removing the AOE allowed for blobbing. Removing anything else that stops blobbing or at least counters it is stupid and short sighted.
Yeah I think Supercaps are broken but not for the reasons you constantly whine about.
Bring Back the AOE and that will stop the blob and force people to use strategy something that has been missing in the game since goons threadnaughted and got teh AOE removed.
The person with the most drake hurricanes or whatever the fotm will win.
I wonder who the 3 reta*rds were that gave you likes. Prolly your three alt accounts. |
FHM
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
4
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Posted - 2011.10.16 01:42:00 -
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Stealthiest wrote:FHM wrote:Tore Vest wrote:The dark side is strong in you FHM +1 Death to these crappy and useless ships, we get so much by nerfing them. We get our game back, balanced pvp, get to see all these super capital noobs cry so much knowing they cant do **** and that SC Blob is about to die. Happy times finally the game braking part is being removed. Balanced PVP? You are re*tard*ed. Team "A" brings 500 drakes requiring what 3-4m sp to fly? So just go to some stupid dotcom and recruit all your stupid something awful racist jerks to join for awhile and viola you have a ready made retar*d fleet. You can go anywhere at will. Then you go into a system like c3n with your 500 drakes and guess what. 30 SC's and 7 titans are waiting. You go to wtfpwn the csaa and you get demolished. Thats the way it should be in a sandbox. Because you can be stopped with your 500 drake bots with heartbeats you run to forums and whine like little bitches saying that the game is broken blah blah blah. We are too scared/incapable/poor/small etc to defeat our enemy so DEV's do something to balance gthe game so we can win even tho we don't deserve it. You calling everyone arguement stupid proves my point about small minded whiny little bitches. You once flew in a fleet and got lagged out and instead of blaming the 500-900 drake bots you blame SC's etc. removing the AOE allowed for blobbing. Removing anything else that stops blobbing or at least counters it is stupid and short sighted. Yeah I think Supercaps are broken but not for the reasons you constantly whine about. Bring Back the AOE and that will stop the blob and force people to use strategy something that has been missing in the game since goons threadnaughted and got teh AOE removed. The person with the most drake hurricanes or whatever the fotm will win. I wonder who the 3 reta*rds were that gave you likes. Prolly your three alt accounts.
Your alliance all the way back to its roots has been backed up by the idea of a super capital blob. You provided no argument 500 drakes alone should be able to kill entire super capital fleet no matter the size that is stupid enough to go out without proper sub capital support that is how its so-pose to work.
We have your logic implemented right now and it's not making any change.
Let me ask you this lets leave super carriers as they are but make logistic have 99% resists against drones and have their repair amount increased by so much that 1 guardian alone can repair 1 target whit 1 armor repair for entire damage a Nyx can do and he can repair 5 people at the same time for that amount of damage.
See balanced by your logic.
Giving Titan a AOE DD was CCP's temporary solution and a failed quick attempt at trying to fix lag in large fleet fights. Your logic is flawed because if i take 300 Machariels whit 8 Billion fits each i still wont be able to fight a super capital blob. So cry all you want but SUPER CAPITAL BLOB and SOLO SUPER CAPITAL ideas are dead after this nerf and ****** alliances that call them selves power block like yours will have to prove them selves on even plane whit others or be erased like a pathetic thing you are right now when you field a super capital fleet against a 10 man BS gang. |
Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.10.16 03:33:00 -
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Once again you fkn morons! The problem is the blob, NAPs and numbers instead of skill. The only thing the nurf will bring to the game is bigger blob, since there is no counter to it. CCP and all you ****** can never see the real issue, it has been like this for fkn 5 years and no matter how you balance the ships, it will always be there until the game discourages blobbing instead of encouraging it. But the loudest voice is that of the goons who always whine about nerfing the only counter to their blob that there is and since CCP has been bending over like a little ***** in heat to the goons for years, this game has been **** and it will continue to be ****. No nerf will change that, it will only bring more whines of "CCP, fix your game" when 3K blob cant do **** due to the lag that the nerf will bring. Idiots.
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Tore Vest
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Posted - 2011.10.16 04:56:00 -
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To ppl that says that supers are overpowered and cant be killed. Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj9kKF9LhaM&feature=player_embedded An exelent made video . To bad that CCP is ruining this now.
Again... well done Init A real highsec carebear. |
Samanta Raiolaser
Republic University Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.10.16 05:42:00 -
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FHM wrote: Let me ask you this lets leave super carriers as they are but make logistic have 99% resists against drones and have their repair amount increased by so much that 1 guardian alone can repair 1 target whit 1 armor repair for entire damage a Nyx can do and he can repair 5 people at the same time for that amount of damage.
OMG you have NO idea how this game works... WTF are you doing here?
Logis can and should stay WAY out of regular drone range, and fighters already cant hit them for ****.
Why the hell do you think you are qualified to make any kind of sugestion when all you do is trow unrealistc numbers and situations... Please, excuse yourself and let those who have any idea how supercarriers work to point out what is broken. Just stop, get back into the game(friendly tip: you cant learn those things doing incursions)...stop with the forum pvp, go get some experience so you can stop making a fool of yourself by saying what YOU think its how is supposed to work and how its not when actually you know jack **** about how EVE works today. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
315
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Posted - 2011.10.16 07:55:00 -
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Metal Dude wrote:Once again you fkn morons! The problem is the blob, NAPs and numbers instead of skill. The only thing the nurf will bring to the game is bigger blob, since there is no counter to it. CCP and all you ****** can never see the real issue, it has been like this for fkn 5 years and no matter how you balance the ships, it will always be there until the game discourages blobbing instead of encouraging it. But the loudest voice is that of the goons who always whine about nerfing the only counter to their blob that there is and since CCP has been bending over like a little ***** in heat to the goons for years, this game has been **** and it will continue to be ****. No nerf will change that, it will only bring more whines of "CCP, fix your game" when 3K blob cant do **** due to the lag that the nerf will bring. Idiots.
"Its not fair! I got a supercap which means I'm an Elite Pee Vee Peer! Look at all my SP, I should be able to kill as many of the untermenschen, at no risk to myself, as I like!" ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
315
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Posted - 2011.10.16 08:09:00 -
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Thanks for the link to a group of supercaps being killed by a bigger group of supercaps.
Nice strawman too, since nobody is arguing that supercaps "can't be killed". ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
XPistolX
Muppet Factory 0ccupational Hazzard
2
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Posted - 2011.10.16 08:42:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote: Thanks for the link to a group of supercaps being killed by a smaller group of supercaps.
Fixed for ya.
Evekill is down now, but IIRC they did it against a bigger supercap fleet, but with a good support fleet.
And ppl that goes 3:1 everyday in subcap numbers are too scared to drop supers.... So they drop tears on the forums. |
Manfred Sideous
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
295
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Posted - 2011.10.16 09:53:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Malcanis wrote:Supercaps can kill supercaps therefore supercaps aren't overpowered?
OK. No you see its perfectly balanced because if you want to do anything outside of highsec you just have to get your own bigger supercap blob.
Are you trying to say you can manage a 45000 member coalition. Get 2 people from your own alliance elected to the CSM. However your entire group can muster to produce a supercapital force? CFC milks 60+ tech moons alone not counting other R64's. I would think that you are mismanaging your isk as alliances or spending it unwisely. Don't be hatin because you made bad strategic decisions. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
7385
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Posted - 2011.10.16 10:22:00 -
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zero2espect wrote:So i think that this is page 86 of a forum thread. I know i am wasting my time because a. it's page 86 of a forum thread and b. i've been playing eve since beta and CCP have never, once, listed to any advice or comment from its fan base (ok, maybe once when zealots only had 4 guns). But at least leaving a comment will make me feel better.
ItGÇÖs obvious to me that the number of players are dropping. the fury of recent blogs are designed to re-energise people into staying. Unfortunately, the changes that are listed as CCPs solutions are just ill thought through, knee jerk reactions by people so far removed from the playing of the game it makes me furious.
My preface is that the very people who have been paying subs for the last 5 years, the people who are growing tired of the game because it is broken, are being placed even more offside by these stupid changes. People who have invested millions of SP and billions of isk into capitals are being killed through stupid misconceptions about how they are used.
For me, the 15min logoffski timer would fix 40% of the issue anyway. Just by itself.
Stop capitals in missions. Just stop them.
Another point is that there needs to be a mechanic separating 0.0 and low-sec. in 0.0 let the big boys duke it out for the billions of moon goo and the like GÇô jump the titans, supers and dreads around all you want. Have different rules for them GÇô theyGÇÖre fighting for sov, let them bring out the bling GÇô max bonuses. In low sec there needs to be protection for the 3643 (or whatever) corps of 50 people or less who want to pvp without the threat of their 5 baddons, 2 megas and scorp being dropped on by 15 SCs just because itGÇÖs fun on a Friday night. Limit the amount of ships that can jump through a cyno into low sec. Prevent fleets with more than 5 caps cynoing into a system. Implement a cyno cool-down onto fleets. Halve the bonuses due to security scanning protocols in low sec. Do something. You dont need to screw supers to fix the prob.
Dreads. Halving the siege time. Perfect. Removal of drones. Stupid. ItGÇÖs ~1.8b of ships before mods and now has zero defence, in or out of siege. Put the drones back and donGÇÖt try to fix lag through cheating us.
Supers. Where do I start. Forget your stupid idea with the drones. Listen, just give the super enough drone bay for 10 bombers and 5-10 fighters and halve the amount of drones able to be deployed at once. Balance this with an additional % of damage per level. Make the pilot choose between putting in bombers, fighters (cap vs bs shooting) and/or any mix of standard drones they wish GÇô a super with 10 sentries/heavies/jamming drones isnGÇÖt going to win the next fight in delve but makes a difference to a guy bumped off a pos tackled by a hic and being bumped by 2 machs. Remove the bonuses that allow SC only fleets to remote rep each GÇô force commanders to mix up fleets for reps. Change the ecm burst so that it uses stront so that there is a finite amount of bursting that can be accomplished. The EHP drop is there purely for SC haters GÇô but again itGÇÖs stupid. If people are flying supercaps theyGÇÖve earned the right to have some ehp buffer. The logoffski rules provide a means that committed smaller fleets have a chance at a kill if they deserve it. IGÇÖd be happy to see that the hanger bay and corp hangers on supers be taken away so that they are pure combat ships and must rely on other jump capable ships for logistical support, amp up the fuel bay if you do this.
Titans. Remove the ability to bridge fleets or make it prohibitively expensive/limited GÇô e.g. costs much much more or limits the number of ships similar to a wormhole (more smaller ships, few bigger ships). Fleet fight suppression is more based on the fear of massive-hostile-fleets bridging in rather than OMG 35 titans have jumped in. make the distinction between titan and super not guns but the DD and (rebalanced) jump portal. I can tell you for free that having an erebus gate camping in low sec instapowning anything with guns does not make for a fun eve (and unable to do anything because within range there are 12 supers waiting to jump in and take down anybody dumb enough to counter).
When will CCP learn that nothing good comes from BIG changes to anything. In a complex environment like EVE is, you can never understand what will happen when you make even little changes, and big changes are completely random in how they play out. LetGÇÖs be honest, CCPs record of deploying quality changes and balancing and game features is not stellar GÇô this smells like more of the same. This whole situation came about because of a BIG change to motherships to become supers. This is like a roundabout now.
For the love of god, instead of making all these changes do 1 or 2 like I suggest, see what happens. if itGÇÖs not enough in a month do another one, then another one. Half of why we hate you CCP is that you hype up all these big changes and they never deliver what was promised. Promise less, do more small things and keep your current players happy. You may be trying to grow the game but at this rate you wont grow faster than people will leave if you keep doing crazy wholesale changes that effect people with BILLIONS invested into your universe.
I donGÇÖt have a super but IGÇÖm not on the bandwagon of NERF THE SUPERS! just because I donGÇÖt have one. I want to aspire to one day have one on this toon and the way things are going there is nothing beneficial in GÇ£wanting moreGÇ¥ out of this game. I might as well stop producing items, buying plexes and adding value to the game and just fly ceptors and cruisers because at least when you **** them up I wonGÇÖt be throwing billions down the toilet.
YouGÇÖd get just as much love out of non-capital pilots if you just fixed low sec and militia and bring in some new sub-capital ships into the game. Good post.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
315
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Posted - 2011.10.16 10:46:00 -
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XPistolX wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote: Thanks for the link to a group of supercaps being killed by a smaller group of supercaps.
Fixed for ya. Evekill is down now, but IIRC they did it against a bigger supercap fleet, but with a good support fleet.
Nope. The raw killboard reports include some of the blob of White Noise/Raiden etc supercaps which bailed out the remaining RA fleet (the ones which appear on the report are there because they zapped a few straggling subcaps as the Curse guys disengaged, I'm assuming that more came in but didn't get onto any mails) but who weren't on the field when all the RA titans died.
http://kb.redalliance.pro/?op=related&id=526239 is up at the moment if you want to take some time to analyse the data - look at the participation of the Raiden/WhiteNoise supercaps, of those that got onto the report at all, all have only one kill because as soon as they showed up, the supercap numbers went against Curse, and they bailed. ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
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Posted - 2011.10.16 10:55:00 -
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Quote: When will CCP learn that nothing good comes from BIG changes to anything. In a complex environment like EVE is, you can never understand what will happen when you make even little changes, and big changes are completely random in how they play out. LetGÇÖs be honest, CCPs record of deploying quality changes and balancing and game features is not stellar GÇô this smells like more of the same. This whole situation came about because of a BIG change to motherships to become supers. This is like a roundabout now.
For the love of god, instead of making all these changes do 1 or 2 like I suggest, see what happens. if itGÇÖs not enough in a month do another one, then another one. Half of why we hate you CCP is that you hype up all these big changes and they never deliver what was promised. Promise less, do more small things and keep your current players happy. You may be trying to grow the game but at this rate you wont grow faster than people will leave if you keep doing crazy wholesale changes that effect people with BILLIONS invested into your universe.
That made sense to me... I don't really understand the adversion they have with people internrally with a job to regularly tweak algortihms .... there needs to be some discipline to be sure moves are gradual... no one wants things random or to get suddenly blindsided by something that hadn't been at least floated conceptually repeatedly... |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3133
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Posted - 2011.10.16 11:19:00 -
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Metal Dude wrote:Once again you fkn morons! The problem is the blob, NAPs and numbers instead of skill. The only thing the nurf will bring to the game is bigger blob, since there is no counter to it. CCP and all you ****** can never see the real issue, it has been like this for fkn 5 years and no matter how you balance the ships, it will always be there until the game discourages blobbing instead of encouraging it. But the loudest voice is that of the goons who always whine about nerfing the only counter to their blob that there is and since CCP has been bending over like a little ***** in heat to the goons for years, this game has been **** and it will continue to be ****. No nerf will change that, it will only bring more whines of "CCP, fix your game" when 3K blob cant do **** due to the lag that the nerf will bring. Idiots.
The "We plucky rebels deserve to have super-imba-instapwn ships to FIGHT THE EVIL POWER" argument kind of falls over when the "plucky rebels" are part of a coalition that controls over 60% of sov 0.0
You're not the Luke Skywalkers in this show man. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3133
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Posted - 2011.10.16 11:20:00 -
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Manfred Sideous wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:Malcanis wrote:Supercaps can kill supercaps therefore supercaps aren't overpowered?
OK. No you see its perfectly balanced because if you want to do anything outside of highsec you just have to get your own bigger supercap blob. Are you trying to say you can manage a 45000 member coalition. Get 2 people from your own alliance elected to the CSM. However your entire group can muster to produce a supercapital force? CFC milks 60+ tech moons alone not counting other R64's. I would think that you are mismanaging your isk as alliances or spending it unwisely. Don't be hatin because you made bad strategic decisions.
You mean "strategic decisions" like throwing your alliance mates under a bus and joining the winning team? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
83
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Posted - 2011.10.16 12:24:00 -
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Manfred Sideous wrote: Are you trying to say you can manage a 45000 member coalition. Get 2 people from your own alliance elected to the CSM. However your entire group can muster to produce a supercapital force? CFC milks 60+ tech moons alone not counting other R64's. I would think that you are mismanaging your isk as alliances or spending it unwisely. Don't be hatin because you made bad strategic decisions.
The thing that you don't seem to get is that it's possible to have a large supercap fleet and still think that supercaps are **** and need to be fixed. I've built (as just one of several builders in GSF) a tremendous number of titans and supercarriers in the last 12 months, but fact still remains that supercarriers are hilariously badly implemented right now.
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Death2all Supercaps
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.16 12:36:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote: Are you trying to say you can manage a 45000 member coalition. Get 2 people from your own alliance elected to the CSM. However your entire group can muster to produce a supercapital force? CFC milks 60+ tech moons alone not counting other R64's. I would think that you are mismanaging your isk as alliances or spending it unwisely. Don't be hatin because you made bad strategic decisions.
The thing that you don't seem to get is that it's possible to have a large supercap fleet and still think that supercaps are **** and need to be fixed. I've built (as just one of several builders in GSF) a tremendous number of titans and supercarriers in the last 12 months, but fact still remains that supercarriers are hilariously badly implemented right now.
trust him hes a doctor!
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Midnight Firestarter
Anger Management
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Posted - 2011.10.16 12:45:00 -
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Goons want a Super nerf because they don't have that many = Devs want Super Nerf. |
Xue Slick
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2011.10.16 13:02:00 -
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Midnight Firestarter wrote:Goons want a Super nerf because they don't have that many = Devs want Super Nerf.
What? |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
83
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Posted - 2011.10.16 13:03:00 -
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Midnight Firestarter wrote:Goons want a Super nerf because they don't have that many = Devs want Super Nerf.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to breakdown how many super caps I have built in the last 12 months while the numbers are still ~strategically sensitive~. Come back in winter and I'll tell you exactly how many super carriers I've made.
The 'I replaced my epeen with a supercarrier' brigade are trying to throw up a smoke screen of 'goons are jealous because they don't have any supercaps' while trying to obfuscate the fact that they are upset because they thought they'd 'won eve'.
Pro-tip for you guys: There's only one way to win eve, and it's not buy spending a lot of money on an internet spaceship. |
Death2all Supercaps
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2011.10.16 13:25:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Midnight Firestarter wrote:Goons want a Super nerf because they don't have that many = Devs want Super Nerf. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to breakdown how many super caps I have built in the last 12 months while the numbers are still ~strategically sensitive~. Come back in winter and I'll tell you exactly how many super carriers I've made. The 'I replaced my epeen with a supercarrier' brigade are trying to throw up a smoke screen of 'goons are jealous because they don't have any supercaps' while trying to obfuscate the fact that they are upset because they thought they'd 'won eve'. Pro-tip for you guys: There's only one way to win eve, and it's not buy spending a lot of money on an internet spaceship.
(hes not really sorry) ;) |
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wanking monkey girl
Capital Maintenance
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Posted - 2011.10.16 13:35:00 -
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how to win eve by goons
step 1 make a thread when you can't win make a thread have ccp change the game to suit goons
step 2 whine. wait a month goons lose again make a new thread and a million others and spam local ccp change it again for goons
step 3 have a goon join ccp this have happened still love you serge
step 4 try and take over CSM happened on part but they have a controlling interest (mittans grand ruler of the pubbys)
this leaves us with the majority of old time eve players being s--t on my ccp and the coming changes if anyone has noticed that the goons coalition is now the largest after most DRF have reset each other now they have the controlling interest in 0.0 what will they change next about goon online |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
83
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Posted - 2011.10.16 13:43:00 -
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wanking monkey girl wrote: if anyone has noticed the larges coalition in eve is now goons with the reset from drf now they have the controlling interest in 0.0 what will they change next about goon online
I ignored the rest of your crap (because it was all crap) but this is exactly how 'reset' the DRF is:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21828&find=unread
They are SO reset that they are still scrambling fleets to defend each others supercaps. So I guess it's the kind of reset where you keep your standings and actively work together on ops to achieve mutual goals.
It's probably just a language barrier thing, but native speakers would call that more of an ongoing coalition than a standings reset. |
wanking monkey girl
Capital Maintenance
20
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Posted - 2011.10.16 13:52:00 -
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with most of the alliance making up the coalition neutral to each other and roaming each other space to find them faction fitted tengu its a reset not saying their no hip in place thi |
loser mclame fatty
Catelo Productions LLC
17
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Posted - 2011.10.16 13:56:00 -
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the people in this thread are worse than the poor people in america who vote for republicans jesus christ you are all ******** |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
14
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Posted - 2011.10.16 14:06:00 -
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loser mclame fatty wrote:the people in this thread are worse than the poor people in america who vote for republicans jesus christ you are all ********
I totally agree...wait, you're in this thread too ! Damn, I am also !
I have a question for those who want SC's nerfed :
HOW ARE WE GOING TO CALL THEM FROM NOW ON ??? Cos Super Carrier will be quite inappropriate ! What they will carry if they don't carry drones of all kinds? Prostitutes? I'd love that but I doubt CCP wants us happy...maybe in some future expansion, Pornucopia...
I agree they are abit overpowered but taking 20% HP should be enough imo.
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FHM
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
4
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Posted - 2011.10.16 15:08:00 -
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Acwron wrote:loser mclame fatty wrote:the people in this thread are worse than the poor people in america who vote for republicans jesus christ you are all ******** I totally agree...wait, you're in this thread too ! Damn, I am also !I have a question for those who want SC's nerfed : HOW ARE WE GOING TO CALL THEM FROM NOW ON ??? Cos Super Carrier will be quite inappropriate ! What they will carry if they don't carry drones of all kinds? Prostitutes? I'd love that but I doubt CCP wants us happy...maybe in some future expansion, Pornucopia... I agree they are abit overpowered but taking 20% HP should be enough imo.
You are really but hurt because your supercapital BLOB is about to die. Super Carrier... is a Carrier.. Super not standing there for being an invincible game braking ship but Super as in Super-sized Carrier. And no its not enough 20%EHP reduction is great for all apart for HEL that has been neglected since it came out.
End Story is final:
1) These ships had such powerhouse in them because they were so-pose to be rare then it would work if each alliance had maybe max 3-5 of these. 2) These ships are so many in numbers they can no longer poses so much survivability to damage ratio. 3) Any ability these ships have to do damage to sub capital ships is stupid and should be removed because it only encourages the super capital BLOB
It does not matter how much you spent for it, how much base price is, how much longer you had to train or what their title is. The fact is they were so pose to be ULTRA RARE then they can stay as they are but they are so many in numbers they need to be nerfed now once and for all.
REMOVE THE ABILITY FOR SUPER CAPITALS TO DO DAMAGE TO SUB CAPITALS
MAKE THEM DEPEND ON SUB CAPITAL SUPPORT AGAINST OTHER SUB CAPITALS
MAKE THEM USELESS SPACE "D I C K S" THAT THEY WERE MEANT TO BE BY GIVING THEM THEIR TRUE ROLE BACK
NERF THEM EVEN MORE |
FHM
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2011.10.16 15:20:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Midnight Firestarter wrote:Goons want a Super nerf because they don't have that many = Devs want Super Nerf. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to breakdown how many super caps I have built in the last 12 months while the numbers are still ~strategically sensitive~. Come back in winter and I'll tell you exactly how many super carriers I've made. The 'I replaced my epeen with a supercarrier' brigade are trying to throw up a smoke screen of 'goons are jealous because they don't have any supercaps' while trying to obfuscate the fact that they are upset because they thought they'd 'won eve'. Pro-tip for you guys: There's only one way to win eve, and it's not buy spending a lot of money on an internet spaceship.
I dont like Goons i think they are a bunch of sociopaths but they alone did what most of us failed to do. They **** caged combined DRF and PL super fleet in one system and broke all attempts enemy tried at advancing or saving their super capitals and managed to kill their enemy's super carriers outside their space while on strict defense.
Say what you will but whole "POWER BLOCK" as they call them selves got BUT HURT so badly they only have on thing left and that is crying that Goons are the result of this nerf.
But if you take a closer look they are nerfing super capitals not because of GOONs or GOON CSM but because the same people who now cry about supers being nerfed and are blaming goons over abused SUPER CAPITAL BLOB to a point where heading out whit large fleets or making any kind of invasion plans is pointles.
So DONT BLAME - Goons for the SUPER CAPITAL NERF - You brought this to your self You people that participated in Super Capital BLOB warfare are the result of this nerf and how severe it has to be NOT GOONS.
You are only crying now because you know that most of these "hardcore pvp alliances", WN., RA, PL, Raiden.,NC., Shadow are 2 pathetic to fight on an equal plane and you know you will be loosing humiliating fights to alliances you call minor unimportant carebare alliances like : AAA, RAZOR, BRICK, MM, ROL, SE, COVEN, RL, TEST, GSF, FA etc.. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
14
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Posted - 2011.10.16 16:10:00 -
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FHM wrote:Acwron wrote:loser mclame fatty wrote:the people in this thread are worse than the poor people in america who vote for republicans jesus christ you are all ******** You are really but hurt because your supercapital BLOB is about to die. Super Carrier... is a Carrier.. Super not standing there for being an invincible game braking ship but Super as in Super-sized Carrier. And no its not enough 20%EHP reduction is great for all apart for HEL that has been neglected since it came out. End Story is final: 1) These ships had such powerhouse in them because they were so-pose to be rare then it would work if each alliance had maybe max 3-5 of these. 2) These ships are so many in numbers they can no longer poses so much survivability to damage ratio. 3) Any ability these ships have to do damage to sub capital ships is stupid and should be removed because it only encourages the super capital BLOB It does not matter how much you spent for it, how much base price is, how much longer you had to train or what their title is. The fact is they were so pose to be ULTRA RARE then they can stay as they are but they are so many in numbers they need to be nerfed now once and for all. REMOVE THE ABILITY FOR SUPER CAPITALS TO DO DAMAGE TO SUB CAPITALS
MAKE THEM DEPEND ON SUB CAPITAL SUPPORT AGAINST OTHER SUB CAPITALS
MAKE THEM USELESS SPACE "D I C K S" THAT THEY WERE MEANT TO BE BY GIVING THEM THEIR TRUE ROLE BACK
NERF THEM EVEN MORE
You want a SUPER CAPITAL SHIP dependent of some other ships ? That's their role, to be dependent ? LOL LOL LOL
Hey bro, I just spend a shite lot of isk on a SC...--> Cool bro ! But but...I can't do anything with it...---> Why bro ? Cos I'm dependent on other ships, I can't hit subcapitals, I can't carry drones, I'm you know...around...but can't do shite.
Bro, now I have a TITAN ! Spent all my isk earned in years, trained for years to fly it and now, here I am, KING OF THE HILL ! But but...I can't hit anything cos some lame arses complained...Why am I better than them? I dunno, maybe cos I have years of training and you have a few days? Hmmm...tough question...
You my friend are hopeless...go fly your glorious drake...These ships are THE BIGGEST and MOST POWERFUL SHIPS in game and that's the way they have to stay !
Biomass is your destiny...
<------Tetris this way Solitaire -------> That way |
wanking monkey girl
Capital Maintenance
20
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Posted - 2011.10.16 16:18:00 -
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sorry but i have to take a look at this list of minor unimportant carebare alliances you have lets start with this list here non of them are classed as unimportant each have show they can fight and fight well meny of them can't do it allow but its why their in a power block for the support of their allies : AAA, RAZOR, BRICK, MM, SE, COVEN, TEST, GSF, FA
unimportant carebare alliance ROL, nail on the head comes to mind
and who is RL,
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ships costing so much in both isk and skill time ccp think about rewarding the hard work of you loyal eve fans and addicts
How to fix a titan by making them remote links stop working on them. getting impunity for ewar means it should not get any form of help from remote links like tracking and sebo.
nurf changes hp hit great but not the hel DD fine agro timer great
sc let them have 20 fighter bombers and 20 fighters and a small drone bay with about 500m3 this will cut if you go ahead with the changes listed then turn them in to advanced carrier and let them dock at lest their going to be used and made after the nurf.
as many have pointed out with the agro timer you will see many more die in the weeks and month that follow..
but also fix the self destruct add so ships in combat can not selfdestruck.
on a side note super carriers in combat cannot refill on stranded drones lock the function with the agro timer. solo super carrier moving about will be able to deafened itself for a limited amount of time
IF the planed changes are introduced allow them to dock and turn the super carriers in to advanced carriers. let advanced carriers dock
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Pesadel0
the muppets RED.OverLord
26
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Posted - 2011.10.16 16:30:00 -
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wanking monkey girl wrote:sorry but i have to take a look at this list of minor unimportant carebare alliances you have lets start with this list here non of them are classed as unimportant each have show they can fight and fight well meny of them can't do it allow but its why their in a power block for the support of their allies : AAA, RAZOR, BRICK, MM, SE, COVEN, TEST, GSF, FA
unimportant carebare alliance ROL, nail on the head comes to mind
and who is RL,
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ships costing so much in both isk and skill time ccp think about rewarding the hard work of you loyal eve fans and addicts
How to fix a titan by making them remote links stop working on them. getting impunity for ewar means it should not get any form of help from remote links like tracking and sebo.
nurf changes hp hit great but not the hel DD fine agro timer great
sc let them have 20 fighter bombers and 20 fighters and a small drone bay with about 500m3 this will cut if you go ahead with the changes listed then turn them in to advanced carrier and let them dock at lest their going to be used and made after the nurf.
as many have pointed out with the agro timer you will see many more die in the weeks and month that follow..
but also fix the self destruct add so ships in combat can not selfdestruck.
on a side note super carriers in combat cannot refill on stranded drones lock the function with the agro timer. solo super carrier moving about will be able to deafened itself for a limited amount of time
IF the planed changes are introduced allow them to dock and turn the super carriers in to advanced carriers. let advanced carriers dock
Noob alliance reporting in , still have more space and do more battles in 0.0 than your leet pvp group brahh.
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