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Wu Jiaqiu
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2013.01.27 01:57:00 -
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Title. I've been experimenting with double web and scram cruisers, EFTing the new destroyers, but I haven't found my flavor yet. Care to share your fits? |
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
61
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Posted - 2013.01.27 02:16:00 -
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Dualprop cynabal! |
iu'ra
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
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Posted - 2013.01.27 02:18:00 -
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Vagabond with 180's and an XL ASB |
loki energon
Voodoo Children Workers Trade Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.01.27 02:59:00 -
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220 cynabal with XLASB and a TP ;) kill em all. |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.01.27 04:05:00 -
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Rapid light missile navy caracal? |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
2844
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Posted - 2013.01.27 04:41:00 -
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The options here are endless. The famous examples are the Vexor, Caracal, Arbitrator, Myrm, Domi, Cynabal, Vagabond, Daredevil, Thrasher, and so many more. But the truth is that most anything can be made into a frig muncher with a little effort.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Paikis
Vapour Holdings
575
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Posted - 2013.01.27 05:00:00 -
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Tengu, RLMgu wrote: Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Federation Navy Stasis Webifier True Sansha Warp Scrambler Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Pith C-Type EM Ward Field
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
That'll munch frigates, and keep everyone laughing for weeks when it explodes! :)
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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
505
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Posted - 2013.01.27 10:13:00 -
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Double web cruisers .. sheesh.
SFI .. insane tracking with 220's, can armour tank more than enough to survive against multiple frigs leaving the four mids free for an extra point/web/eWar .. SFI is as far as you need to look when it comes to killing frigs.
If you absolutely want to go dessie route then one of the new Caldari/Shakorite would be best as light missiles laugh at frigs regardless of range, for anything <20km the Coercer is still king (DLP for the win!). |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
508
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Posted - 2013.01.27 12:09:00 -
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Cheapo rapid light missile Caracal
Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ëGò¡Gê¬Gò«-á don't haten++ |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
503
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Posted - 2013.01.27 13:09:00 -
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RLML caracal is a hilarious thing to engage frig gangs in. |
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Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company
111
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Posted - 2013.01.27 15:53:00 -
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rocket drake |
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:02:00 -
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[Drake, New Setup 5] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator X5 Prototype Engine Enervator Warp Disruptor II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5
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Aria Ta'Rohk
Pandemic Plexers
118
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:33:00 -
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No mention of the classic 280mm Arty Thrasher? I'll take 2 carebears to go, with extra tears |
Maeltstome
Mentally Assured Destruction
308
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:04:00 -
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The trick to killing frigates is getting them to commit. With that in mind, i present to you:
[Tornado, YOUJUSTWONEVE]
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Gyrostabilizer II
Experimental 100MN Afterburner I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Every module on that ship is part of the trap. Accept no immitations. |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
6
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:17:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Cheapo rapid light missile Caracal Just switch it out for a navy caracal and you'll be winning at internet spaceships in no time! |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
617
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:39:00 -
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RLML Caracal, mostly for immunity to tracking disruptors. You can get ships that will be slightly better at killing blobs of frigates, but they're generally gimmicky and will be shut down by inevitable ewar if you try to engage too many. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
504
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:35:00 -
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Drake Doe wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Cheapo rapid light missile Caracal Just switch it out for a navy caracal and you'll be winning at internet spaceships in no time!
Stop living in the past.
Navy caracal is barely better than a normal caracal and costs 4 times as much. |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
517
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:08:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Drake Doe wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Cheapo rapid light missile Caracal Just switch it out for a navy caracal and you'll be winning at internet spaceships in no time! Stop living in the past. Navy caracal is barely better than a normal caracal and costs 4 times as much.
I would suggest the same to you. The RML caracal us no longer the only anti-frigate missile boat. A bellicose lacks one launcher but has larger drone bay and bandwidth, better speed, and similar slot layout. Additionally, right now everyone thinks the bellicose is a horrible ship, so will try to engage for the easy kill, which helos bring the targets in. |
Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
686
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:53:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Drake Doe wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Cheapo rapid light missile Caracal Just switch it out for a navy caracal and you'll be winning at internet spaceships in no time! Stop living in the past. Navy caracal is barely better than a normal caracal and costs 4 times as much. I would suggest the same to you. The RML caracal us no longer the only anti-frigate missile boat. A bellicose lacks one launcher but has larger drone bay and bandwidth, better speed, and similar slot layout. Additionally, right now everyone thinks the bellicose is a horrible ship, so will try to engage for the easy kill, which helos bring the targets in.
He's pointing out that a normal Caracal is pretty much on par these days with a Navy one. What the FCK does that have to do with what what you're talking about.
Also to the OP: pick something that's not too scary or they simply won't engage you or even let you get close. Try an AB stabber with scram/ double web, 220mm and and 2 small neuts. Not a lot of EHP but enough to kill the frig and cheap as hell.
Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything.
Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish |
Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE
47
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:50:00 -
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Stabber fleet Issue. Not too expensive, the speed and the trackingboni on the autocannons is really great to kill frigs. |
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Maeltstome
Mentally Assured Destruction
312
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:52:00 -
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Rovinia wrote:Stabber fleet Issue. Not too expensive, the speed and the trackingboni on the autocannons is really great to kill frigs.
No frig will engage a SFI. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
2865
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:55:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:Rovinia wrote:Stabber fleet Issue. Not too expensive, the speed and the trackingboni on the autocannons is really great to kill frigs. No frig will engage a SFI.
I would. Even without links. Just gotta make sure you do it right.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Maeltstome
Mentally Assured Destruction
312
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Posted - 2013.01.30 00:36:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Maeltstome wrote:Rovinia wrote:Stabber fleet Issue. Not too expensive, the speed and the trackingboni on the autocannons is really great to kill frigs. No frig will engage a SFI. I would. Even without links. Just gotta make sure you do it right. -Liang
It's either packing a 100mn or a beasty armor tank. Without link you really underestimate that ship when well flown. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
2869
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Posted - 2013.01.30 01:01:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:It's either packing a 100mn or a beasty armor tank. Without link you really underestimate that ship when well flown.
I'm pretty confident in my frigate flying abilities.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Wu Jiaqiu
Heretic Army Atrocitas
134
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Posted - 2013.01.30 04:57:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Maeltstome wrote:It's either packing a 100mn or a beasty armor tank. Without link you really underestimate that ship when well flown. I'm pretty confident in my frigate flying abilities. -Liang
I can vouch for this. |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
77
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Posted - 2013.01.30 05:24:00 -
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Wu Jiaqiu wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Maeltstome wrote:It's either packing a 100mn or a beasty armor tank. Without link you really underestimate that ship when well flown. I'm pretty confident in my frigate flying abilities. -Liang I can vouch for this. I can vouch for Liang dying in a fiery ball of confidence :p
The tracking bonus on the SFI is exaggerated by most people, however. They act like it makes your guns track every frigate all of a sudden. The real reason you won't see too many dying to an Assault Ship and whatnot is because most of them just aren't solo, which makes it all the more difficult. That and most Assault Ship pilots are just as terrible.
A couple Slashers could easily take care of one, not to mention any of the elite frigates. Dorian Trollmak. |
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2013.01.30 06:08:00 -
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A sfi tracking is pretty terrible vs frigs, what makes them kill them is the speed they can reach with the ab, while having a scram. So the either can dictate range (vs mwd frigs) or have a good chance of lowering transversal, and when a sfi can dictate range it can keep transversal so low that it will track just fine.
A daredevil will still **** a sfi all day long. Even 100mn ones (they are bad tho, the 100mn ones i mean). |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
2871
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Posted - 2013.01.30 07:08:00 -
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Dorian Tormak wrote:I can vouch for Liang dying in a fiery ball of confidence :p
No question - it definitely happens on occasion.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
514
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Posted - 2013.01.30 08:35:00 -
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I wouldn't try to take a SFI in a solo frig unless it was a cap stable kiter with decent dps and a td
I have killed them duo though with ab's and TD's.. Dual web thorax is WAY more dangerous imo.. That thing ******* rapes.
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Hidden Snake
Hidden Squid Society
252
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Posted - 2013.01.30 13:48:00 -
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RML caracal and bring also auto targeting missiles .... and frig blobs are over. |
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