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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1098
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Posted - 2012.01.02 08:07:00 -
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iudex wrote:Missing the Economic point
Any time isk enters the economy, the real income of everyone who relies on an isk faucet for income decreases.
Any time minerals enter the economy, the price of minerals decrease, so the incomes of miners decreases.
The point was that there is no Pure PvE in Eve because everyone is connected and in competition. The point is not saying that fighting Red crosses is the same as fighting blinky red squares.
As for KB stats, what the fuck? Everyone knows people have alts and that their main might not be the character they Pew with. And if you're going to drag up KB stats, yours have taken a fine beating these past two years, haven't they |
iudex
State Protectorate Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.01.02 09:23:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:iudex wrote:Missing the Economic point Any time isk enters the economy, the real income of everyone who relies on an isk faucet for income decreases. Any time minerals enter the economy, the price of minerals decrease, so the incomes of miners decreases. The point was that there is no Pure PvE in Eve because everyone is connected and in competition. The point is not saying that fighting Red crosses is the same as fighting blinky red squares. As for KB stats, what the fuc k? Everyone knows people have alts and that their main might not be the character they Pew with. And if you're going to drag up KB stats, yours have taken a fine beating these past two years, haven't they
No i didn't miss that, read my post again, the economic interaction between players is included in it. But this kind of interaction can not be called PVP, for the reasons i've given above. As for my KB stats: they are irrelevant since i don't try to teach people on the forums about PVP, like the person in question does, i even don't see myself as PVPer. As for the alts: why is that smartass not posting with his main then, if Tippia is his alt ? Yes sure, this is my alt too, my other two characters are Chribba and Shrike. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
1886
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Posted - 2012.01.02 09:50:00 -
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iudex wrote:RubyPorto wrote:iudex wrote:Missing the Economic point Any time isk enters the economy, the real income of everyone who relies on an isk faucet for income decreases. Any time minerals enter the economy, the price of minerals decrease, so the incomes of miners decreases. The point was that there is no Pure PvE in Eve because everyone is connected and in competition. The point is not saying that fighting Red crosses is the same as fighting blinky red squares. As for KB stats, what the fuc k? Everyone knows people have alts and that their main might not be the character they Pew with. And if you're going to drag up KB stats, yours have taken a fine beating these past two years, haven't they No i didn't miss that, read my post again, the economic interaction between players is included in it. But this kind of interaction can not be called PVP, for the reasons i've given above. As for my KB stats: they are irrelevant since i don't try to teach people on the forums about PVP, like the person in question does, i even don't see myself as PVPer. As for the alts: why is that smartass not posting with his main then, if Tippia is his alt ? Yes sure, this is my alt too, my other two characters are Chribba and Shrike. So many character imposters in this thread
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1098
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Posted - 2012.01.02 09:56:00 -
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iudex wrote:RubyPorto wrote:iudex wrote:Missing the Economic point Any time isk enters the economy, the real income of everyone who relies on an isk faucet for income decreases. Any time minerals enter the economy, the price of minerals decrease, so the incomes of miners decreases. The point was that there is no Pure PvE in Eve because everyone is connected and in competition. The point is not saying that fighting Red crosses is the same as fighting blinky red squares. As for KB stats, what the fuc k? Everyone knows people have alts and that their main might not be the character they Pew with. And if you're going to drag up KB stats, yours have taken a fine beating these past two years, haven't they No i didn't miss that, read my post again, the economic interaction between players is included in it. But this kind of interaction can not be called PVP, for the reasons i've given above. As for my KB stats: they are irrelevant since i don't try to teach people on the forums about PVP, like the person in question does, i even don't see myself as PVPer. As for the alts: why is that smartass not posting with his main then, if Tippia is his alt ? Yes sure, this is my alt too, my other two characters are Chribba and Shrike.
If you'd read the conversation, Tippia and I are the ones trying to get this WarDec change retracted. So calling Tippia out for carebearism doesn't make much sense.
As for alts. Say I'm an industrialist and make a name on the forums with that toon. Then I make a Pew alt. I post with my main, but my main doesn't do any Pew and thus doesn't get any kills. Doesn't mean I don't (as a person) pew or know how to pew. |
ShipToaster
82
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Posted - 2012.01.02 10:36:00 -
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Izziee wrote:I think those who legitimately want to wage war with a corp because they generally hate them, or been annoyed by them should be allowed tbh
Just to make it clear to all: you have annoyed me and validated my declaration of eternal hatred to eve university and have legitimised my war against them. Good job.
Did you get kicked for posting here? Or was your leaving just a coincidence?
Rellik B00n wrote: I would go one farther and say that although I was never in the privateers the original "dec everyone" idea was amazing.
This was really a defining moment in EVE and was the stuff that greatness in EVE was made of.
CCP nerfing it was the beginning of the downward spiral.
RubyPorto wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:This topic has gone on long enough. It is nothing but a hatefest now.
If you have ideas about how to fix Wardecs you ought to post it in the F&I forum.
Requesting lock as
A) CCP made their decision and most likely wont be influenced by this topic as opposed to finding a good system to replace the current one.
B) This is not an idea topic. tl;dr I'm loosing, where's my Forum DecShield. Help
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Izziee
The Scope Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.01.02 14:17:00 -
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ShipToaster wrote:Izziee wrote:I think those who legitimately want to wage war with a corp because they generally hate them, or been annoyed by them should be allowed tbh Just to make it clear to all: you have annoyed me and validated my declaration of eternal hatred to eve university and have legitimised my war against them. Good job. Did you get kicked for posting here? Or was your leaving just a coincidence?
Wow! are you really THAT ********? I honestly didn't think people could actually be that thick, shocker. Do you honestly think by you running to a corp tell tailing like a little kiddiewink would to their mummy and daddy, a corp that I've been in no more than a couple of days would actually offend or even upset me in the slightest? For your information, I doubt very much you actually got me kicked, It might even have something to do with me telling the ceo (Actually, not sure who he is) that he has double standards and unprofessional. though, realistically it probably had something to do with the fact I abused the CEO for not understanding his own rules and telling him to remove me rather than suspending me while they check out the posts, I can show you the mail if you wish ;). (The short version, rules state that they can't post in the corporation section..which, this is not) and me telling him I WILL continue to post.
So while I picture you there, sat behind your computer screen eating cheetos sniggering to yourself with a bit of drool being sucked back up into your mouth and a cheese stained T-shirt, the only thing you did for me was actually doing me a favor, because no way would I stay in a corp which demands players from posting, since that ain't ever going to happen, add that to the fact I found the majority of them in my short stay ignorant (By no means ALL, there were a couple nice people) and the fact the only "event" I did with them was some low sec roam with about 40 of us that had to run away from a couple of hurricanes through a bunch of jump gates with our tails between our legs rather than engage or the fact that my first day some people were talking in chat how none of the directors are ever online and it's pretty much just noobs teaching noobs (Can't be sure how true that is except for the fact the only officer I saw in my short time there was the guy who invited me, who was actually unsure of a certain rule himself which I asked about, telling me that rigging T2 rigs was encouraged in wartime when it clearly states on the Wsop they aren't..still, for people to say that must at least have SOME merit to it), or even the fact a day after I joined they went to war and basically told us no one could undock unless following a bunch of out of date rules (I can see why they are in place, but as argued on their forum, they're pretty much obsolete)...actually, I could give a huge great list with the only upside was that I met like 3 actually decent people, all which I've not seen since the war anyway. So, while they may or may not be a decent enough corp, it was most certainly not one for me, hence why I told him to remove me.
So aside from making me think you're one of those drooling suck ups you only did me a favor, so perhaps I should be thanking you, backfired a bit for you though so good job ;)
RubyPorto wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:This topic has gone on long enough. It is nothing but a hatefest now.
If you have ideas about how to fix Wardecs you ought to post it in the F&I forum.
Requesting lock as
A) CCP made their decision and most likely wont be influenced by this topic as opposed to finding a good system to replace the current one.
B) This is not an idea topic. tl;dr I'm loosing, where's my Forum DecShield. Help Nice one!
Yes, you're definitely a suck up lol. Happy new year :O
Oh an by all means, please do feel free to war dec them, that's "really" going to annoy me lol!!
Edited for failage quoting :( |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
674
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Posted - 2012.01.02 18:34:00 -
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Izziee wrote:Do you honestly think by you running to a corp tell tailing like a little kiddiewink would to their mummy and daddy... I had to stop reading after that sentence. Are you using a random word generator?
Today I lost my common sense, It slipped away between Amamake and Rens, I think it happened in highsec, Using a Brutix to gank a Providence. -- Flunk |
Wacktopia
Sicarius. The Kadeshi
134
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Posted - 2012.01.02 19:48:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Mu-Shi Ai wrote:Wacktopia wrote:2. The solution should no be to remove them. They haven't been removed! Seriously. That's the mentality that isn't quite clicking for me here. Corps having the option to use a mechanic to avoid your dec /= wardecs have been removed. Overstating the case you're trying to make never helps. Wardecs *were* a method of (kind of) forcing PvP on a corporation for a week. Meaning POSes were vulnerable, and operations might be disrupted for that week. Currently Wardecs are a method of forcing PvP on a corporation for 24h. Meaning POSes are not vulnerable and operations will not be disrupted for longer than a day. Add to that the fact that an alliance hopping corp is immune from wardecs going live for the 24hr period following the vulnerability, and wardecs are now useless for affecting any corporation who is not in an alliance. (This doesn't affect Sov holding alliances because alliance hopping has some slightly negative effects re: Sov mechanics) So wardecs for anything other than consensual war between hisec corps, beating up on people who are too new to know how to alliance hop, and trying to kill Sov holder JF pilots has disappeared. Wardecs for POS bashing profit are gone, wardecs to disrupt rival industrial elements are gone. All that's left among nonconsensual hisec wardecs are the wardecs that people have been complaining about, the so called "griefing" wardecs of newbies.
This.
The current war dec mechanics reminds me of the old "turn on pvp" option - i.e Only those that choose to turn on "pvp mode" can or will pvp. There are ENDLESS mmo's out there with rich PVE content and optional PVP. Turning EVE into another of those game is a terrible mistake. EVE is different. It must be different to survive. When you die your ship gets blown to tiny, burning pieces. There's no "corpse run", no "respawn". You're dead. That's it. You just lost everything you were flying, perhaps even your body. Worse still you may have lost the space you controlled or resources you were gathering.-áTake that away and EVE is no longer EVE. TL;DR: Fix war decs. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1115
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Posted - 2012.01.02 22:29:00 -
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Chribba wrote:So many character imposters in this thread
You're not my real Chribba.
Izziee wrote:ShipToaster wrote:Izziee wrote:I think those who legitimately want to wage war with a corp because they generally hate them, or been annoyed by them should be allowed tbh Just to make it clear to all: you have annoyed me and validated my declaration of eternal hatred to eve university and have legitimised my war against them. Good job. Did you get kicked for posting here? Or was your leaving just a coincidence? Wow! are you really THAT ********? I honestly didn't think people could actually be that thick, shocker. Do you honestly think by you running to a corp tell tailing like a little kiddiewink would to their mummy and daddy, a corp that I've been in no more than a couple of days would actually offend or even upset me in the slightest? For your information, I doubt very much you actually got me kicked, It might even have something to do with me telling the ceo (Actually, not sure who he is) that he has double standards and unprofessional..... AND STUFF
Yeah, his point was that trying to categorize or legitimize wardecs by motives is ridiculous, since he went ahead and declared that he has a grievance with everyone, so per you, all his outgoing wardecs are legitimate.
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Yes, you're definitely a suck up lol. Happy new year :O
Oh an by all means, please do feel free to war dec them, that's "really" going to annoy me lol!!
Edited for failage quoting :(
Yeah, asking for the Mods to "Oh God Please make it stop" is a sure sign of being in a good position. |
ShipToaster
83
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Posted - 2012.01.02 22:46:00 -
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Another few threads about wardecs posted in features and ideas are worth checking out.
Moving off topic
Cool story bro.
Poetic Stanziel wrote:Izziee wrote:Do you honestly think by you running to a corp tell tailing like a little kiddiewink would to their mummy and daddy... I had to stop reading after that sentence. Are you using a random word generator?
I can handle arguments, rage, tears and whines with a degree of aplomb but claiming I told on you to carebear uni is a bit low. The only contact I want to have with eve university is if I can have them all f***** to death by space robo donkeys.
(before the report post spam starts it is in game I want eve university members to be f***** to death by space robo donkeys, I dont want them f***** to death by space robo donkeys in real life )
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1115
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Posted - 2012.01.02 22:56:00 -
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ShipToaster wrote:Another few threads about wardecs posted in features and ideas are worth checking out. Moving off topic Cool story bro. Poetic Stanziel wrote:Izziee wrote:Do you honestly think by you running to a corp tell tailing like a little kiddiewink would to their mummy and daddy... I had to stop reading after that sentence. Are you using a random word generator? I can handle arguments, rage, tears and whines with a degree of aplomb but claiming I told on you to carebear uni is a bit low. The only contact I want to have with eve university is if I can have them all f***** to death by space robo donkeys. (before the report post spam starts it is in game I want eve university members to be f***** to death by space robo donkeys, I dont want them f***** to death by space robo donkeys in real life )
You might enjoy the Penny Arcade video games. They have Fruit Fuckers. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
397
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Posted - 2012.01.03 13:53:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Just re-iterating that I think this change is good. It gives people a defence against griefing and more freedom of choice. Griefing is illegal... and enforced by CCP Hi-sec wars aren't greifing. And you can bet your last isk, war-decs are being looked at.
Depends on how you gauge griefing. In terms of the EULA and harassment it has to be very clear cut and extreme cases as CCP is a business. However, there are a lot of grey areas.
Griefing much like trolling is done when some pathetic little creature uses a mechanic in a game to deliberately sabotage the playing of another gamer with the purpose of obtaining an emotional response. They make no gain within the game and they usually feel a little more significant and in control of their screwed up lives. Sadly, since this all occurs in the game, it does nothing to fix the roots of their problems, so they continually perpetuate this activity in order to get another "fix." Ideas and stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. |
ShipToaster
91
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Posted - 2012.01.03 14:52:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Just re-iterating that I think this change is good. It gives people a defence against griefing and more freedom of choice. Griefing is illegal... and enforced by CCP Hi-sec wars aren't greifing. And you can bet your last isk, war-decs are being looked at. Depends on how you gauge griefing. In terms of the EULA and harassment it has to be very clear cut and extreme cases as CCP is a business. However, there are a lot of grey areas.
Deja Vu all over again.
Harassment is nothing to do with griefing please dont claim these things are in any way linked in EVE. The TOS and EULA say nothing about griefing and wardecs. There are no grey areas regarding griefing in EVE as what is griefing is stated here http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Griefing
EVE WIKI wrote:Griefer war decs
"Griefer war decs" refers to the practice of declaring a war, typically in high-security, against a party who is not your competitor in politics, regional control, industry, or anything else, and does not want the war. Such wars are often, but not always, declared with the intent to extort money from the victim for termination of the war. While they are sometimes used for actual griefing (ie, declared only for the malicious enjoyment of seeing the victim suffer), they can also be seen as a valid playstyle, and are used by many for simple isk-making and/or combat training.
War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature.
The first paragraph gives us a definition of what people term "Griefer war decs". The second says CCP will not intervene.
The "never officially considered griefing" means wardecs are not considered griefing by CCP ever under any circumstance. They wont stop wars on you just because you have been decced for a few weeks, months or years and people who have petitioned on this ground have got a HTFU message back from :ccp: when they were CCP.
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Griefing much like trolling is done when some pathetic little creature uses a mechanic in a game to deliberately sabotage the playing of another gamer with the purpose of obtaining an emotional response. They make no gain within the game and they usually feel a little more significant and in control of their screwed up lives. Sadly, since this all occurs in the game, it does nothing to fix the roots of their problems, so they continually perpetuate this activity in order to get another "fix."
Again we see a carebear resort to pre-school psych, what is it with these people that makes them think they have any clue about this subject? Why do they imagine that how people play a game and how they live in real life are related? The only contact I want to have with eve university is if I can have them all ****** to death by space robo donkeys.
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
310
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Posted - 2012.01.04 13:15:00 -
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it just occured to me how to 'fix' this
as a war dec costs isk, there is a value attached to the war, and by extension, each pilots worth in the war.
To leave a corp during war, and in so doing leaving the war, you should pay a fee that is returned to the aggressor corp that paid for the war.
the cost of he war dec, divided by the amount of pilots in corp when the war dec was paid should be the fee paid to escape the war.
this seems the simplest way of automatically policing wars and claims of 'corp hopping' and the like.
The result of all this is that the aggressor corp gets reimbursed if the corp / alliance they attack dissolves on purpose to avoid the war, and the people being aggressed have a method of leaving the fight without 'cheating'.
please discuss |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1130
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Posted - 2012.01.04 14:02:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:it just occured to me how to 'fix' this
as a war dec costs isk, there is a value attached to the war, and by extension, each pilots worth in the war.
To leave a corp during war, and in so doing leaving the war, you should pay a fee that is returned to the aggressor corp that paid for the war.
the cost of he war dec, divided by the amount of pilots in corp when the war dec was paid should be the fee paid to escape the war.
this seems the simplest way of automatically policing wars and claims of 'corp hopping' and the like.
The result of all this is that the aggressor corp gets reimbursed if the corp / alliance they attack dissolves on purpose to avoid the war, and the people being aggressed have a method of leaving the fight without 'cheating'.
please discuss
Alt corp wardecs alt corp 2. Flood Alt Corp 2 with Alts. All alts in Alt corp 2 hav 0 isk. Alts in alt corp 2 leaves Corp, goes negative isk. Free Isk. (This is if you calculate the reward when the Dec is announced)
Incoming wardec. Flood the Corp with alts. Make it ludicrously cheap to leave whenever. (This is if you calculate the reward when the Dec is live).
I don't see any other time to calculate those. Any method of tying Wardecs to corp size is hugely vulnerable to abuse by Alts (Expired Trial alts stay on the corp rolls until purged). |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
310
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Posted - 2012.01.04 15:58:00 -
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make it impossible to leave unless you have sufficient isk
and just limit the payback to 100% of the weekly cost for the wardec
that was easy |
ShipToaster
91
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Posted - 2012.01.04 16:24:00 -
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Realised today that wardec mechanics have been known by CCP to have been broken for four years now without any fixes, and thanks to the OP here that EVE has officially been a consensual PvP game for almost three months now.
Skippermonkey wrote:stuff about one of the six commonly perceived problems with wardecs
Already been discussed a lot.
Individuals dropping corp solutions mentioned so far: cant drop until war ends, cant drop for first seven days, can drop but pay a fee equal to wardec cost to CONCORD per pilot as a personal surrender fee, can drop buy pay a fee equal to clone cost to aggressors (mine), can drop but pay a small fee which continues as long as the war you dropped for lasts, can drop but pay a nominal fee (your suggestion would be in this area), and can only drop in the warmup period of wars, can drop without penalty at anytime (current).
There were a lot of others but they are variants of cant drop, cant drop for a limited time period, can drop but pay for the privilege , or can drop but dont pay anything. The only contact I want to have with eve university is if I can have them all ****** to death by space robo donkeys.
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1138
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Posted - 2012.01.05 03:05:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:make it impossible to leave unless you have sufficient isk
and just limit the payback to 100% of the weekly cost for the wardec
that was easy
So poor players in small corps get shafted.
And for the second one, I can still massively inflate my corp size so that it costs nothing to leave. |
ShipToaster
93
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Posted - 2012.01.15 19:56:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:So poor players in small corps get shafted.
This is a rule of EVE. Big sharks eat small fish.
Joining a corp should have some sort of consequence and allowing players to join and leave at will has some pretty irritating side effects.
The only contact I want to have with eve university is if I can have them all ****** to death by space robo donkeys.
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
680
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Posted - 2012.01.15 21:58:00 -
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ShipToaster wrote:RubyPorto wrote:So poor players in small corps get shafted. This is a rule of EVE. Big sharks eat small fish. Agreed. EVE is not the European social welfare state. It's Libertarian.
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1216
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Posted - 2012.01.15 23:10:00 -
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ShipToaster wrote:RubyPorto wrote:So poor players in small corps get shafted. This is a rule of EVE. Big sharks eat small fish. Joining a corp should have some sort of consequence and allowing players to join and leave at will has some pretty irritating side effects.
I prefer it to letting Corps duck their decs at will. |
ShipToaster
96
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Posted - 2012.01.15 23:21:00 -
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Must be having a bad forum day. Forum ate my post and I meant to have this link in last post.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=57596&find=unread why dropping corp with no consequence is irritating. The only contact I want to have with eve university is if I can have them all ****** to death by space robo donkeys.
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1216
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Posted - 2012.01.15 23:26:00 -
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1. He didn't show up red and flashy in their overview 2. They got the concord warning 3. The got concorded for shooting him
Working as intended. |
Elessa Enaka
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.01.15 23:45:00 -
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Question regarding Wardecs
Say Corp A declares on Corp B, Corp B proceeds to join DecShield. After 24-25 hours, Corp B is officially in DecShield, they leave after the following downtime thereby shedding the wardec. At the first possible opportunity, Corp A declares on Corp B once again and the whole process starts over again and again and again and again.
At what point does this become griefing if at all?
Is it possible that Corp A could wardec Corp B again every 48-72 hours ad infinitum without it ever becoming griefing? Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been |
ShipToaster
96
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:14:00 -
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Elessa Enaka wrote:At what point does this become griefing if at all?
Is it possible that Corp A could wardec Corp B again every 48-72 hours ad infinitum without it ever becoming griefing?
There is no point when it becomes griefing. Wardecs, according to the devs, are never considered griefing.
RubyPorto wrote:1. He didn't show up red and flashy in their overview 2. They got the concord warning 3. The got concorded for shooting him Working as intended.
Read the rest. The only contact I want to have with eve university is if I can have them all ****** to death by space robo donkeys.
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ShipToaster
96
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:20:00 -
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Elessa Enaka wrote:At what point does this become griefing if at all?
Should have just linked you to this post. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=599923#post599923
The only contact I want to have with eve university is if I can have them all ****** to death by space robo donkeys.
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Elessa Enaka
State War Academy Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:20:00 -
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So, simply because it is a "wardec", harassment of this nature is never considered to be griefing?
I'd really like an official confirmation or denial of this by a GM or a Dev before I move forward with any ideas I may have..... Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been |
ShipToaster
96
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:26:00 -
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Deja vu again, again, and again.
If you dont believe the official wiki or any of the dev and gm statements made over the years on this and the old forum then petition it. The only contact I want to have with eve university is if I can have them all ****** to death by space robo donkeys.
Griefing CCP - Bounties for E-Uni Ganking: action continues. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=343354#post343354 |
Elessa Enaka
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:29:00 -
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Well, I just want to make sure that so long as I can afford to do so, I could (with absolutely no recourse from the victim) harass someone by way of wardec for the foreseeable future of my time playing eve Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:38:00 -
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ShipToaster wrote:Elessa Enaka wrote:At what point does this become griefing if at all?
Is it possible that Corp A could wardec Corp B again every 48-72 hours ad infinitum without it ever becoming griefing? There is no point when it becomes griefing. Wardecs, according to the devs, are never considered griefing. RubyPorto wrote:1. He didn't show up red and flashy in their overview 2. They got the concord warning 3. The got concorded for shooting him Working as intended. Read the rest.
I did. Looks like my analysis was spot on. If they didn't receive the Concord warning, that's the bug they should have petitioned. Otherwise PEBCAK. Namely, if you're going to fight a war (emigrating is perfectly legit to run from incoming decs), read up on the rule's you're going to fight it under. |
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