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jackk O'neil
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:34:00 -
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Hi, i am new to this market discussions area but im looking for a 5B bond/loan
Currently got 1.6b in sell orders in a nullsec staging system
Have 5B liquid isk myself, as a nullsec pvp'er i need isk to be able to replace or buy ships so i am going to attempt to keep this on the side
Reason for no collateral is i cant offer items of that value that i do not need for pvp
Currently doing some market stuff in nullsec - moving stuff from jita to nullsec to sell on for as much profit as i can (sometimes 20% sometimes 120% it depends)
Looking for more isk to invest into items to bring down and sell as i am finding i am selling out on items very quickly, so i would prefer to bring down large quantity of items to sell in order to cut down on transport costs
Their is usually 200-300 online in the system i am selling in, i am trading in high volume items, as it is nullsec the profit margins are much higher
Offering 8% per month interest
If it all go's pear shaped i will GTC my way out
Can offer API, convo or mail me with offer and request for api if you want it
Please if you have questions ask below or mail/convo me ingame!
Looking forward to working with you! |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
3
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:52:00 -
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would like pledge 20b |
jackk O'neil
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:53:00 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:would like pledge 20b 5B at most
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Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
30
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Posted - 2013.01.28 22:37:00 -
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jackk O'neil wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:would like pledge 20b 5B at most Meet Jerry. He's like that. DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy |
SinTeryx
Seamless Industries
12
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Posted - 2013.01.28 22:49:00 -
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jackk O'neil wrote:
Currently got 1.6b in sell orders in a nullsec staging system
Have 5B liquid isk myself, as a nullsec pvp'er i need isk to be able to replace or buy ships so i am going to attempt to keep this on the side
I don't understand...are you loosing 5 bill worth of ships ever other day? If you have the liquid isk why not fund yourself and take a short break from PvP...say what a weekend and do some serious trading, especially if you are seeing 120% returns on "some" of you're items.
jackk O'neil wrote:If it all go's pear shaped i will GTC my way out
Or you could just GTC you're way into 5 bill. Instilling trust would be to buy the GTC's convert them to PLEX and offer them as collateral...then when you are done with the bond you have the money you have made and a bunch of PLEX to sell as you see fit or use to fund you're pew pew.
/2cents -Sin
Edit: Also 8% interest per month for an uncolateralized bond that will be shipping its product into null is a bit off-setting to investors...are you using Black Frog or something along those lines or hauling it yourself? |
Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
77
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Posted - 2013.01.28 22:53:00 -
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SinTeryx wrote:jackk O'neil wrote:
Currently got 1.6b in sell orders in a nullsec staging system
Have 5B liquid isk myself, as a nullsec pvp'er i need isk to be able to replace or buy ships so i am going to attempt to keep this on the side
I don't understand...are you loosing 5 bill worth of ships ever other day? If you have the liquid isk why not fund yourself and take a short break from PvP...say what a weekend and do some serious trading, especially if you are seeing 120% returns on "some" of you're items. jackk O'neil wrote:If it all go's pear shaped i will GTC my way out Or you could just GTC you're way into 5 bill. Instilling trust would be to buy the GTC's convert them to PLEX and offer them as collateral...then when you are done with the bond you have the money you have made and a bunch of PLEX to sell as you see fit or use to fund you're pew pew. /2cents -Sin Edit: Also 8% interest per month for an uncolateralized bond that will be shipping its product into null is a bit off-setting to investors...are you using Black Frog or something along those lines or hauling it yourself?
He can't walk away with the money if he offers collateral. Duh.
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jackk O'neil
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 23:10:00 -
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no its sov 0.0, so no black frog, im using a alliance jf service, the items im making 120% on are items like hornet ec-300 (High volume, Low amount of isk) and meta items used in pvp, as it is a pvp hub... ! Despite being new to this section of EVE-O, i have heard of Alex Grison from other threads i have seen , you always seem very sceptical of people (probably rightfully so seeing a couple other threads) Regarding having my own 5B, i dont know if you PVP much in nullsec, but its a lot of money, man a fitted battleship costs 500m, also capitals cost a preety penny.
The GTC is only if i really fail, if it doesnt work out, i can simply return your loan and the intrest, the 5B will go towards being able to bring out plenty of modules to keep stock going (as much as i admire the guy who does the JF service for his hard work, it sometimes take 2 or 3 days for items to arrive). If i can bring out more modules it means i wont have days when i am unable to sell anything due to being without stock to sell.
It is 100% your choice whether you would like to give me a loan and whilst the 8% is a little low, i can offer you only my word on the matter of trust! |
SinTeryx
Seamless Industries
12
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Posted - 2013.01.28 23:36:00 -
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jackk O'neil wrote:no its sov 0.0, so no black frog, im using a alliance jf service, the items im making 120% on are items like hornet ec-300 (High volume, Low amount of isk) and meta items used in pvp, as it is a pvp hub... ! Despite being new to this section of EVE-O, i have heard of Alex Grison from other threads i have seen , you always seem very sceptical of people (probably rightfully so seeing a couple other threads) Regarding having my own 5B, i dont know if you PVP much in nullsec, but its a lot of money, man a fitted battleship costs 500m, also capitals cost a preety penny. The GTC is only if i really fail, if it doesnt work out, i can simply return your loan and the intrest, the 5B will go towards being able to bring out plenty of modules to keep stock going (as much as i admire the guy who does the JF service for his hard work, it sometimes take 2 or 3 days for items to arrive). If i can bring out more modules it means i wont have days when i am unable to sell anything due to being without stock to sell. It is 100% your choice whether you would like to give me a loan and whilst the 8% is a little low, i can offer you only my word on the matter of trust!
I was just attempting to clarify a few points, in order to effect my own decision about this bond and maybe offer insight to others. There are a lot of negative posters here on the MD, but with good intentions. Nobody wants to toss out 5b to someone without as much info as possible. As many of the bonds posted in the MD forums are and have been scams we just want to know our precious iterweb spaceship monies are going to the right people :)
Shoot me you're api and I will attempt to have a little convo with you when I get home from work in about 3 hours. -Sin |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
29
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Posted - 2013.01.28 23:40:00 -
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What happens when your alliance is "deployed" to NPC fountain/ other alliance SOV?
Most of the player owned Null JF pilots i know, are stocking the markets themselves, why would they be hauling profits for line members? gotto remember with alliance run JF's services, they don't do it for free, there is fuel costs.
Interest rate is fine, what i would do is circulate a mail to your alliance, perhaps you will get a better rate(read: saves you money) going "in-house".
good luck, & don't get caught holding the ball. I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
jackk O'neil
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 23:41:00 -
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SinTeryx wrote:jackk O'neil wrote:no its sov 0.0, so no black frog, im using a alliance jf service, the items im making 120% on are items like hornet ec-300 (High volume, Low amount of isk) and meta items used in pvp, as it is a pvp hub... ! Despite being new to this section of EVE-O, i have heard of Alex Grison from other threads i have seen , you always seem very sceptical of people (probably rightfully so seeing a couple other threads) Regarding having my own 5B, i dont know if you PVP much in nullsec, but its a lot of money, man a fitted battleship costs 500m, also capitals cost a preety penny. The GTC is only if i really fail, if it doesnt work out, i can simply return your loan and the intrest, the 5B will go towards being able to bring out plenty of modules to keep stock going (as much as i admire the guy who does the JF service for his hard work, it sometimes take 2 or 3 days for items to arrive). If i can bring out more modules it means i wont have days when i am unable to sell anything due to being without stock to sell. It is 100% your choice whether you would like to give me a loan and whilst the 8% is a little low, i can offer you only my word on the matter of trust! I was just attempting to clarify a few points, in order to effect my own decision about this bond and maybe offer insight to others. There are a lot of negative posters here on the MD, but with good intentions. Nobody wants to toss out 5b to someone without as much info as possible. As many of the bonds posted in the MD forums are and have been scams we just want to know our precious iterweb spaceship monies are going to the right people :) Shoot me you're api and I will attempt to have a little convo with you when I get home from work in about 3 hours. -Sin Thank you for your feedback, it means a lot! i will send you my api via eve mail, but i will not be around in 3 hours as its getting late here. if you are around tommorow convo me! |
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jackk O'neil
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 23:50:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:What happens when your alliance is "deployed" to NPC fountain/ other alliance SOV?
Most of the player owned Null JF pilots i know, are stocking the markets themselves, why would they be hauling profits for line members? gotto remember with alliance run JF's services, they don't do it for free, there is fuel costs.
Interest rate is fine, what i would do is circulate a mail to your alliance, perhaps you will get a better rate(read: saves you money) going "in-house".
good luck, & don't get caught holding the ball. Hi, thank you for the advice, i have found that the JF pilots are not interested in the Module markets and mainly do contracts of ready made ships, or atleast that is how many do their business in my alliance. The JF service i use is ran for as little profit as it can be ran for, it is used to encourage smaller market seeders whilst still giving some isk for the JF efforts. I was told by a corp member to look here if i needed a loan, so this is where i have ended up! |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1340
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Posted - 2013.01.29 02:25:00 -
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in eve? good luck with that. |
Razor Rocker
Ellis Research
35
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:50:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:in eve? good luck with that.
Happens all the time Jack. Some investors like filling some of the higher risk bonds, because to be honest most of the game is boring by now.
But beyond that, doesn't nulli have a ship replacement program? Also, looking at your KB, you haven't lost 5b in the last 6 months of PVPing. So even if Nulli's SRP is payed out once a month, as most nullsec alliances do, if you save 1b and invest the other 4b you should be fine. Or am I missing something?
To be honest though, SinTeryx had a good point. Get some plex and try your hand at a collateralized loan. That way you'll have your loan filled at a lower interest rate, and at the end of the loan you can simply use the PLEX to sub your account. If this is the path you wish to choose, feel free to contact me as I'd be happy to help fill it for you at a competitive interest rate. |
Jarkovii
7 Corners Trading
3
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:57:00 -
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And what region/s are you involved in? And if it's small end modules and maybe some ships, why do you need 5b? Wouldn't that be a bit much? |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
3
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:05:00 -
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Claire Coffee wrote:jackk O'neil wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:would like pledge 20b 5B at most Meet Jerry. He's like that.
looking forward to posting in your upcoming Bond thread. what is it gonna be called? something named coffee no doubt to match the gimmick.
@OP i post that, as it quickly weeds out, tire kickers and the like, such as yourself, pre-pledging 20b helps avoid these issues.
Razor Rocker wrote: To be honest though, SinTeryx had a good point. Get some plex and try your hand at a collateralized loan. That way you'll have your loan filled at a lower interest rate, and at the end of the loan you can simply use the PLEX to sub your account. If this is the path you wish to choose, feel free to contact me as I'd be happy to help fill it for you at a competitive interest rate.
great idea, buy some PLEX with that isk you have, then give the plex to this guy, he will then give u less isk for them, while they devalue.
want to know an easier way?
use the 5b you have to make money. if you need to replace a ship, either use the profits, or start ratting like the rest of the bears in null.
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De Guillaume
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
405
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:16:00 -
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I am willing to loan you the entire amount for 3% interest if you do get collateral, it doesn't need to be 100% but least 50%. (thats only to fellow alliance member discount)
however i will send u a mail with other terms. Has you ever went so far as chose to go even use want to look more like do? |
Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
42
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:17:00 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote: looking forward to posting in your upcoming Bond thread. what is it gonna be called? something named coffee no doubt to match the gimmick.
Not going to happen. I'm self-sufficient DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
791
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:43:00 -
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It's quit simple : your in a 100+ member corp for over 3 months. A corp that is part of a big alliance.Now if those other people in your corp who know you for 3 months now don't feel secure enough to lend you isk , then why would us totally strangers feel that urge?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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jackk O'neil
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:21:00 -
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Jarkovii wrote:And what region/s are you involved in? And if it's small end modules and maybe some ships, why do you need 5b? Wouldn't that be a bit much? I am selling modules from jita to staging system in PVP items related to alliance doctorines, so their is always a supply, somtime i find myself running out and the JF service takes a few days, if i have more isk i can invest into more at one time, this allows me to be making more money more of the time, for example i brought out 300 bouncer I and they were gone within an hour at a 200% markup, this is to supply carriers etc, even the small items make big bucks, so this is why im asking for more! I am not selling ships as the JF service pricing is per m3
EDIT: nullsec, immensea/Detorid, at the moment a staging system in insmother |
jackk O'neil
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:26:00 -
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flakeys wrote:It's quit simple : your in a 100+ member corp for over 3 months. A corp that is part of a big alliance.Now if those other people in your corp who know you for 3 months now don't feel secure enough to lend you isk , then why would us totally strangers feel that urge? All i can give you is my word, if you dont want to give me a loan thats up to you sir, but i have made this thread for someone who might be able to help me out, thanks for reply though! |
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jackk O'neil
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:30:00 -
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Razor Rocker wrote:Jack Miton wrote:in eve? good luck with that. Happens all the time Jack. Some investors like filling some of the higher risk bonds, because to be honest most of the game is boring by now. But beyond that, doesn't nulli have a ship replacement program? Also, looking at your KB, you haven't lost 5b in the last 6 months of PVPing. So even if Nulli's SRP is payed out once a month, as most nullsec alliances do, if you save 1b and invest the other 4b you should be fine. Or am I missing something? To be honest though, SinTeryx had a good point. Get some plex and try your hand at a collateralized loan. That way you'll have your loan filled at a lower interest rate, and at the end of the loan you can simply use the PLEX to sub your account. If this is the path you wish to choose, feel free to contact me as I'd be happy to help fill it for you at a competitive interest rate. Yes nulli has some sort of SRP, Albeit i am now becoming a capital pilot, i have had to purchase carrier and a dread when i can afford it from market selling which is a chunk of money, hence why i am hoping for a loan of money so i can invest all of that into marketing and come out with more, thanks for reply though!
As far as plex goes i would really have had to welp the isk to do this, i have more or less found items i can offer for collateral, being ships i have lost in Sov nullsec stations i no longer have access too, but i think the amount comes too 1.5b... and i dont think this is much worth collateral as it would be difficult to retrieve |
Razor Rocker
Ellis Research
35
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:02:00 -
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jackk O'neil wrote:Razor Rocker wrote:Jack Miton wrote:in eve? good luck with that. Happens all the time Jack. Some investors like filling some of the higher risk bonds, because to be honest most of the game is boring by now. But beyond that, doesn't nulli have a ship replacement program? Also, looking at your KB, you haven't lost 5b in the last 6 months of PVPing. So even if Nulli's SRP is payed out once a month, as most nullsec alliances do, if you save 1b and invest the other 4b you should be fine. Or am I missing something? To be honest though, SinTeryx had a good point. Get some plex and try your hand at a collateralized loan. That way you'll have your loan filled at a lower interest rate, and at the end of the loan you can simply use the PLEX to sub your account. If this is the path you wish to choose, feel free to contact me as I'd be happy to help fill it for you at a competitive interest rate. Yes nulli has some sort of SRP, Albeit i am now becoming a capital pilot, i have had to purchase carrier and a dread when i can afford it from market selling which is a chunk of money, hence why i am hoping for a loan of money so i can invest all of that into marketing and come out with more, thanks for reply though! As far as plex goes i would really have had to welp the isk to do this, i have more or less found items i can offer for collateral, being ships i have lost in Sov nullsec stations i no longer have access too, but i think the amount comes too 1.5b... and i dont think this is much worth collateral as it would be difficult to retrieve
Was more thinking of you buying the PLEX with your RL money, then using it to sub your accounts when you're done the loan. But it seems a notable member of your alliance is willing to make a pretty good deal. I'd go with him. |
Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
77
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:08:00 -
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jackk O'neil wrote:flakeys wrote:It's quit simple : your in a 100+ member corp for over 3 months. A corp that is part of a big alliance.Now if those other people in your corp who know you for 3 months now don't feel secure enough to lend you isk , then why would us totally strangers feel that urge? All i can give you is my word, if you dont want to give me a loan thats up to you sir, but i have made this thread for someone who might be able to help me out, thanks for reply though!
Terribly sorry to inform you of this. But your word holds no value. |
Barakach
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
144
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Posted - 2013.01.30 17:44:00 -
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Alex Grison wrote:
Terribly sorry to inform you of this. But your word holds no value.
But they hold meaning, which means they can hold something.
I just noticed my likes are 12^2 |
De Guillaume
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
405
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:12:00 -
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De Guillaume wrote:I am willing to loan you the entire amount for 3% interest if you do get collateral, it doesn't need to be 100% but least 50%. (thats only to fellow alliance member discount)
however i will send u a mail with other terms.
still waiting to hear a reply on my offer of giving you the money. Has you ever went so far as chose to go even use want to look more like do? |
jackk O'neil
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:51:00 -
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Sorry for wasting time, decided its better off without a loan, couldnt trust my self to not lose it in some way and have to buy plex to get it back... anyway thanks for offers |
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