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eVRiAL
Pact Of Honour Red Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:22:00 -
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Applying to the changes, there is only one way to use motherships in a role how it was originally conceived is allow docking them. |
Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:30:00 -
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wrong, moron |
iKill Giants
Eternal Phoenix Rises Dark Phoenix Rising.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:33:00 -
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You know, the point of nerfing is to decrease the capabilities of the ship where needed so they fit into their role better. Adding a major boon of being untouchable, if trapped, after a session timer is kind of counter-purpose here.
Basically, no. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:34:00 -
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I looked at the details, carefully weighed up either side... Turns out you are wrong... |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:35:00 -
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eVRiAL wrote:Applying to the changes, there is only one way to use motherships in a role how it was originally conceived is allow docking them.
Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. I should had never left X3: Reunion |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:37:00 -
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Not really, no. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:38:00 -
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The following needs to happen first before I agree.
Dock Jammers
Being able to look outside from inside a station.
Dock speed based on size.
Better BUMPING mechanics that where explored and never fully realized before QA threw them out for throwing a POS out of system becuase QA spawned 32 titans on it. I would love to have a super capitol just plow though a sub cap fleet and the only person who can really bump him is probably another capitol-super capitol. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:39:00 -
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I don't think SCs should be allowed to dock, but they should receive their respective racial CQ as a compensation for the removal of their drone bays.
morons-áare recruiting. We're good at breeding! |
Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:57:00 -
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Has Quafe T-Shirt. |
Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:01:00 -
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eVRiAL wrote:Applying to the changes, there is only one way to use motherships in a role how it was originally conceived is allow docking them.
No. |
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:04:00 -
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eVRiAL wrote:Applying to the changes, there is only one way to use motherships in a role how it was originally conceived is allow docking them. only after they fix docking games.
and even then they shouldn't be allowed to dock. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:07:00 -
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eVRiAL wrote:Applying to the changes, there is only one way to use motherships in a role how it was originally conceived is allow docking them.
No. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:08:00 -
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This topic reeks of fear. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:26:00 -
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The correct answer is of course. NO! |
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:36:00 -
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I think we should be allowed to codebreak supercaps hanger arrays then dock smartbombing bs in them and blow them up from the inside. GÖÑ Haviing your portrait painted here helps INTAKI Disabled Children GÖÑ |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:41:00 -
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SC were designed to be big carriers
after dominion they were meant to be the anti capship tool of destruction accidentally they became the anti everything
now that they are being fixed u want to let them dock? fine, but only in highsec. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:03:00 -
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I think supercaps should look like the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Indanu
Pact Of Honour Red Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.11 13:07:00 -
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i thinks this changes only Fighter Bomber and Supercarriers |
Samillian
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.10.11 13:17:00 -
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eVRiAL wrote:Applying to the changes, there is only one way to use motherships in a role how it was originally conceived is allow docking them.
Why?
SC's have not changed enough to justify docking right as far as I can see. Please feel free to post a well thought out argument for allowing SC's to dock at some point in this thread for further consideration.
By the way "Just because!!!" does not count as a well thought out argument.
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Qupid Stunt
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.11 13:20:00 -
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So much whining!
This forum in now full of super rich players whining because there is now the hint of a possibility that they might lose their massively expensive super capital ships. What happened to donGÇÖt fly what you canGÇÖt afford to lose? All the newbies (myself included) regularly spend 10, 20, 30% of all the isk we own on a ship with the sole intention of getting it blown up. If we are lucky we may get a couple of decent fights before our demise. At which point we will stat saving for another ship. This is what EVE is all about. Why should you expect to be immune from this concept? |
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eVRiAL
Pact Of Honour Red Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.11 13:25:00 -
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Well. Dreadnoughts will have more DPS than SCs. Dreads costs much cheaper, less spending time for building and they have full insurance.
Then what motherships left to do in this way? Exactly: nothing. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.11 13:27:00 -
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Moved from "EVE General Discussion".
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Bo Bojangles
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.11 14:12:00 -
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eVRiAL wrote: Dreadnoughts will have more DPS than SCs.
From what range? and in what mode? Which means they cannot be 'what' to their safespot?
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.10.11 15:11:00 -
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eVRiAL wrote:Well. Dreadnoughts will have more DPS than SCs. Dreads costs much cheaper, less spending time for building and they have full insurance.
Then what motherships left to do in this way? Exactly: nothing.
The immobile unreppable undockable dreadnaught with 20% of the ehp can do more dps at very short range while running out of cap, how terrible.
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Skinae
Hello Kitty Hug Patrol EISENFAUST.
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Posted - 2011.10.11 15:19:00 -
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eVRiAL wrote:Well. Dreadnoughts will have more DPS than SCs. Dreads costs much cheaper, less spending time for building and they have full insurance.
Then what motherships left to do in this way? Exactly: nothing.
U so mad. |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2011.10.11 15:24:00 -
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No.
There is no need for any super-capital to be capable of docking. Simple solution, just don't fly what you can't afford to replace. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.10.11 15:43:00 -
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eVRiAL wrote:Applying to the changes, there is only one way to use motherships in a role how it was originally conceived is allow docking them.
Not being a fan of this epic carrier nerf, I support this.
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.10.11 16:39:00 -
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Ship can't dock, need another account to help move it around the map ... fools and their money. |
Daedalus II
Helios Research Combat Mining and Logistics
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Posted - 2011.10.12 13:50:00 -
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Docking them is obviously not a good idea, but what about parking them in space? Either give them the ability to cloak once you park them at a safe spot, or give them one hell of a shield when in parked mode and send "under attack" mails to the owning corp if it comes under attack, like a POS.
A mechanic like this could also be of use if you want it to be more like the motherships of old should have been. A movable base that can be used for a nomadic lifestyle. You can leave it unattended while you use some other ship from its maintenance bay. |
Akara Ito
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.12 15:22:00 -
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eVRiAL wrote:Applying to the changes, there is only one way to use motherships in a role how it was originally conceived is allow docking them.
They will be a ship with a quite decent role of beein an anti sov ship with a somewhat secondary role of killing caps. No other ship in EVE will be better for the anti sov thing, I dont really see why they should be allowed to dock just because they are crap for things they should not be good for in the first place.
Daedalus II wrote:Docking them is obviously not a good idea, but what about parking them in space? Either give them the ability to cloak once you park them at a safe spot, or give them one hell of a shield when in parked mode and send "under attack" mails to the owning corp if it comes under attack, like a POS.
A mechanic like this could also be of use if you want it to be more like the motherships of old should have been. A movable base that can be used for a nomadic lifestyle. You can leave it unattended while you use some other ship from its maintenance bay.
You do see the irony of "using a ship for a nomadic lifestyle" thats requires Sov to build ? |
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Daedalus II
Helios Research Combat Mining and Logistics
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Posted - 2011.10.12 16:41:00 -
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Akara Ito wrote: You do see the irony of "using a ship for a nomadic lifestyle" thats requires Sov to build ?
Ever heard of a little thing called trading (as in you can buy stuff instead of building it yourself)? I've heard it's pretty big in EVE... |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.10.12 16:55:00 -
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What nerf? They are still heaps more powerful than the Motherships ever where and people were more than happy to park them at POS back then ...
The only difference between now and then is that we have 6-7 times as many SC's floating around so parking lots are going to be at a premium. You rode the FoTM horse knowing full well that it would fall, break a leg and put to sleep .. complaining at this point is kind of silly.
What you should do is give constructive feedback on the changes to help make them useful/worthwhile without being OP, not cry about the price of milk after you have emptied your glass. |
Akara Ito
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.13 00:35:00 -
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Daedalus II wrote:Akara Ito wrote: You do see the irony of "using a ship for a nomadic lifestyle" thats requires Sov to build ?
Ever heard of a little thing called trading (as in you can buy stuff instead of building it yourself)? I've heard it's pretty big in EVE...
Ok you dont see it, its ok, dont think too much about it its going to make your head hurt. But you should keep in mind that CCP is in general pretty blunt about telling you what ships should do. You will probably notice that battleships for example arent really meant to be scouts: I know the speed really does give it away but some people may find it tricky to figure out anyway.
Supercapitals for example have this small, absolutely unimportant, attribute of not beeing able to use gates. The fact that you can not move such a ship without the help of other persons might be a hint that those ships arent meant for solo use. Well everybody got cyno alts today but this upcomming nerf supports the point of beeing a ship for group use by greatly nerfing your ability to kill ships that can tackle you. Thats were you probably want other people to help you right ?
Now why again would you need a feature to use a ship solo if its not designed for solo use in the first place? |
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