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Jonas Staal
Army Of US Southern Renegades
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Posted - 2013.02.05 18:15:00 -
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Hi all,
I'm looking for a T1 BC (or lower ship price region) to kill and salvage sleepers (never done this before, and it looks like something fun to try). Since I am Minmitar (can fly caldari, minmitar and gallente up to BC but only space-ship wise), I was looking towards a Hurricane setup.
I'm saying "no drake" because missile DPS is pretty poor with my skills.
What kind of stats do I need DPS/Tank wise? What modules are need to have (like probe launcher)? Do I need Salvagers or are salvage drones enough? What salvage skill do I need?
etc etc.
Regards |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1116
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Posted - 2013.02.05 18:49:00 -
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Jonas Staal wrote:Hi all,
I'm looking for a T1 BC (or lower ship price region) to kill and salvage sleepers (never done this before, and it looks like something fun to try). Since I am Minmitar (can fly caldari, minmitar and gallente up to BC but only space-ship wise), I was looking towards a Hurricane setup.
I'm saying "no drake" because missile DPS is pretty poor with my skills.
What kind of stats do I need DPS/Tank wise? What modules are need to have (like probe launcher)? Do I need Salvagers or are salvage drones enough? What salvage skill do I need?
etc etc.
Regards
Hurricane or cyclone would do fine. Actually better than a Drake. C1 sites have a large number of Frigates, which die faster to turrets than heavy missiles.
I haven't run C1's in awhile, but I'd say IIRC about a 275 omni tank is plenty. salvaging I'd say should be at 3. I haven't heard very good things about the salvage drones unfortunately. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
2922
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Posted - 2013.02.05 21:38:00 -
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It looks like the hardest site in a C1 has 5 cruisers and 2 frigates on the field at the same time. I wouldn't expect more than about 203 DPS out of that particular spawn.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1118
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:00:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:It looks like the hardest site in a C1 has 5 cruisers and 2 frigates on the field at the same time. I wouldn't expect more than about 203 DPS out of that particular spawn.
-Liang
I could have been thinking 175 DPS tank. It has been a long time since I was in a C1
Either way they are not hard. |
Rroff
The Xenodus Initiative. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:15:00 -
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^^ ~175dps tank on anything like a drake with passive regen and/or a fair amount of EHP or a little higher on ships that have less EHP. |
Shenra Twrin
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:48:00 -
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Wolf/Jaguar |
Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:50:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Jonas Staal wrote:Hi all,
I'm looking for a T1 BC (or lower ship price region) to kill and salvage sleepers (never done this before, and it looks like something fun to try). Since I am Minmitar (can fly caldari, minmitar and gallente up to BC but only space-ship wise), I was looking towards a Hurricane setup.
I'm saying "no drake" because missile DPS is pretty poor with my skills.
What kind of stats do I need DPS/Tank wise? What modules are need to have (like probe launcher)? Do I need Salvagers or are salvage drones enough? What salvage skill do I need?
etc etc.
Regards Hurricane or cyclone would do fine. Actually better than a Drake. C1 sites have a large number of Frigates, which die faster to turrets than heavy missiles. I haven't run C1's in awhile, but I'd say IIRC about a 275 omni tank is plenty. salvaging I'd say should be at 3. I haven't heard very good things about the salvage drones unfortunately.
This is all accurate. Salvage drones work on frigates and cruisers, slowly, and not on battleships (which isn't a problem in C1s).
I'd personally suggest myrmidon or hurricane, but the assault frigates can be a load of fun in a Wolf-Rayet. I personally used the Enyo, but they're all fine I think.
Svo. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
814
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Posted - 2013.02.06 01:00:00 -
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confirming cane viability, with or without salvage drones.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Jonas Staal
Army Of US Southern Renegades
1
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Posted - 2013.02.07 19:22:00 -
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I tried a C2 last night, tank was ok, but DPS-wise I was a bit short!
using shield power relays for passive tank meant pretty much no cap recharging, so shooting my AC's at fall-off range :P. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2635
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Posted - 2013.02.09 01:35:00 -
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I started in wormholes with a Harbinger. Then upgraded to a Zealot (had a scanning alt) and then a Legion.
On the rare occasion I go shooting sleepers these days, it's in a Tengu. Somebody finally blew up my Legion :( Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
2943
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Posted - 2013.02.09 02:41:00 -
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Jonas Staal wrote:I tried a C2 last night, tank was ok, but DPS-wise I was a bit short!
using shield power relays for passive tank meant pretty much no cap recharging, so shooting my AC's at fall-off range :P.
Out of curiosity what kind of tank did you have on it? I assume you're talking about a Drake? I guess posting the fit's probably fine (if you want more help). :-/
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1121
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Posted - 2013.02.09 02:55:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Jonas Staal wrote:I tried a C2 last night, tank was ok, but DPS-wise I was a bit short!
using shield power relays for passive tank meant pretty much no cap recharging, so shooting my AC's at fall-off range :P. Out of curiosity what kind of tank did you have on it? I assume you're talking about a Drake? I guess posting the fit's probably fine (if you want more help). :-/ -Liang
Since he said AC and falloff I'd guess not drake |
Jonas Staal
Army Of US Southern Renegades
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Posted - 2013.02.09 09:42:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Jonas Staal wrote:I tried a C2 last night, tank was ok, but DPS-wise I was a bit short!
using shield power relays for passive tank meant pretty much no cap recharging, so shooting my AC's at fall-off range :P. Out of curiosity what kind of tank did you have on it? I assume you're talking about a Drake? I guess posting the fit's probably fine (if you want more help). :-/ -Liang
Cane with 6 Med Galliums (upgrading to T2's asap), probe launcher and salvager. 10MW MWD, LSE2x2, Adaptive invunrability shield2. DC2, Gyro2, Beta shield power relay 4x Shield purgers |
Yokomaki
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.02.16 02:49:00 -
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I use a Harbinger in C1s. Close to 600dps at all Level V and 179 dps tank. I am closer to 170 tank but you only need to have that much tank on occassion. Just keep your speed and angular velocity high and you can tank 90% with only with repper running. I swapped out the AB in this fit for a MWD recently because chasing cruisers down with an AB sucks...pulse the MWD 2 cycles and you are inside optimal.
[Harbinger, C1 Harbinger] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Salvager I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Warrior II x5 Warrior II x5
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Rall Mekin
Jadablade Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.16 16:42:00 -
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Jonas Staal wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Jonas Staal wrote:I tried a C2 last night, tank was ok, but DPS-wise I was a bit short!
using shield power relays for passive tank meant pretty much no cap recharging, so shooting my AC's at fall-off range :P. Out of curiosity what kind of tank did you have on it? I assume you're talking about a Drake? I guess posting the fit's probably fine (if you want more help). :-/ -Liang Cane with 6 Med Galliums (upgrading to T2's asap), probe launcher and salvager. 10MW MWD, LSE2x2, Adaptive invunrability shield2. DC2, Gyro2, Beta shield power relay 4x Shield purgers
I'm in agreement with Jonas. For what you're talking about doing, an arty cane should be fine. You might fine you need an active tank, however, but my current CEO, who used to live in a wormhole with me, kited the sleepers in an arty cane in a c1 and never had any problems running pure buffer. |
Orlacc
245
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Posted - 2013.02.18 03:59:00 -
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If you plan on doing this regularly, get a Noctis pronto. |
Ch3244
Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans
229
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Posted - 2013.02.24 10:30:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:If you plan on doing this regularly, get a Noctis pronto. nocits dps is rather poor don't you think? |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
870
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Posted - 2013.02.25 22:40:00 -
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Ch3244 wrote:Orlacc wrote:If you plan on doing this regularly, get a Noctis pronto. nocits dps is rather poor don't you think? Except against Minmatar, where it simply slays. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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