Everything is fine guys, protus can use covert cyno now...


...but seriously, rats DEFENDING the ships that mass murder their brethren every day, while shooting at the one ship that represents a possibility of revenge for their whiskered kind?


This is not more intelligent AI, it is broken AI that was never implemented properly. But please, carebears, tell us more stories where your arch enemy staunchly defends you against anyone coming in to violence you.

Yep, no need to mix PVE with PVP in regards to Rat AI.
Game is broken for us that enjoyed the solo hunt.

Complaining to thin air is what it feels like but I hold the hope that someone important is reading and listening.

Sorry, but EvE is a PvE game as well as a PvP game.

Really? crap, I didnt know that. Thanks Mr. Obvious.

PVP and PVE coexist clearly otherwise no one would be able to buy a ship.
You are bringing nothing to the conversation.

How about this?

You can get the rats AI to ignore you in a fight, but the consequences are that you take a security hit.
After all, you are assisting pirates, and as such bear responsibility for their victory against forces attempting to reduce their number.

Enemy combatants... tsk tsk, the empires frown on that.

Now, if you stick around after, and betray your new allies by trying to kill them, they call in reinforcements against you.
(A full spawn that drops no added loot, they had no time to pick up any on the way over)
Think of it as the reinforcements hate double crossers more than honest enemies.

This thread is great entertainment... PVP'ers asking CCP to make it safer for them to gank PVE'ers. In NS no less!! Along with the cries about AFK cloaking, I'm beginning to think the concept of NS being for the 'real men' is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors!! ;)

Systems appears to be working just fine. Adapt so you can get your kills some other way.

Glad you enjoy the entertainment, meanwhile I'll continue to request "actual" AI.

If that can't be achieved then a ruleset that doesn't assist one party over the other.

The thing is now they're finally treating you the same. It's already like what you're asking for. What you want is for it to go back to the way it was before where the first person on scene was treated differently.

No, that's not what im asking for, Im asking for actual AI.

If I was killing your friend and some random showed up, you had a gun, who would you shoot?

You need to get into the mindset of the criminal. The pirates aren't good guys. They're the ones robbing the bank. Anyone new who wasn't part of the original rob-the-bank crew is going to be considered the enemy. They're not going to wait for you to get into optimum position. They're going to take you out immediately based on who in front of them looks nastier. While not perfect, it's alright.

I dont need to get into the mindset of anything. Its not logical or AI and its game breaking.

So you don't need to think about the mindset of the intelligence that you're trying to model artificially? Sounds like a recipe for success.

There's nothing big wrong with the burn the world NPCs. Perhaps the hi-sec factions should behave differently, but pirates who hate you both, should kill you both.

Also basic logic dictates that if everyone is your target, then you take down the easiest to kill first.

Also technically you're a pirate too right? You're competition. Frankly you should be shoot on site just for being a pirate who doesn't belong to their faction who is honing in on their territory.

Rival gangs may both hate the cops, but they also hate each other right? Let's just say if you're not wearing their particular gang colors you're the enemy.

No, that's not what im asking for, Im asking for actual AI.

If I was killing your friend and some random showed up, you had a gun, who would you shoot?

Haven't read the whole thread but
What if the shoe is on the other foot? A neutral warps in with you and starts shooting the rats, what will you do? Allow them to continue to shoot the rats with you or attack them?