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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Curso as always a polite and constructive post from xirtam.
What can you expect us to give a turn-coat? ___________________________________________________
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Dirty Looks
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:37:00 -
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Sapage...I was kicked from Imperium eh ? really? I wasnt a desginated fleet commander eh? Really? Go ask whosurdaddy ... ask pacifica ... ask JVol... ask Shilo.... any1 who matters in Imperium if they saw me lead and fight or not...
No need to get abusive and insulting. anyways Ive said my bit. Cu around.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: sapage1
VOTF has fought as much as any other corporation in this game and for you to say we evade PVP is totaly rediculous, even our enemies wouldnt say things like that.
actually, yes we do, repeatedly..
--thoth
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: sapage1
VOTF has fought as much as any other corporation in this game and for you to say we evade PVP is totaly rediculous, even our enemies wouldnt say things like that.
actually, yes we do, repeatedly..
My bad, let me correct myself.
Enemies who matter. ___________________________________________________
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dirty Looks Sapage...I was kicked from Imperium eh ? really? I wasnt a desginated fleet commander eh? Really? Go ask whosurdaddy ... ask pacifica ... ask JVol... ask Shilo.... any1 who matters in Imperium if they saw me lead and fight or not...
No need to get abusive and insulting. anyways Ive said my bit. Cu around.
Im actually looking at the fleet commander list right now (new and old) and your name isnt there.
Additionally, iv asked the 1st in command 2nd in command and 3rd in command of imperium and nope, no mention. ___________________________________________________
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.07.22 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: Nick Curso on 22/07/2005 23:03:29
Quote: My bad, let me correct myself.Enemies who matter.
U mean enemies who agree with u.
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Dirty Looks
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Posted - 2005.07.22 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Dirty Looks on 22/07/2005 23:14:51 Edited by: Dirty Looks on 22/07/2005 23:13:00 Edited by: Dirty Looks on 22/07/2005 23:10:47 Sapage1 ... you are so full of it its not even funny... Go mine more bistot ... fatten your fallets and find more allies you can sacrifice buddy . I led several ops .. not 1 not 2 .. but several for several months... Designated commanders? those are Acks and Xirt I guess... lol running mining ops... Guess you never made a PVP list... so honestly STFU right abt now. Your looking dumb. MC knows i led against them as well . Just got out of a convo with 1 of them.... so hey whatever.. at least my enemies respect me.
The MASS guy who posted just above me says otherwise abt you :) C ya later. BTW Sapage .. Ur own Corp member Machetedemon will let u know how many fights i led... and he says he's never seen u online much during the course of the war... so yeah .... umm you shud really let it go ... its lookin bad for ya..
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.07.22 23:14:00 -
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Honestly now, which of VOTF's enemies respect them, their tactics and their conduct?
Come on, Own up!
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.07.22 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: sapage1
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: sapage1
VOTF has fought as much as any other corporation in this game and for you to say we evade PVP is totaly rediculous, even our enemies wouldnt say things like that.
actually, yes we do, repeatedly..
My bad, let me correct myself.
Enemies who matter.
if we dont matter then why are you supposedly in curse?
p.s Hed-gp aint curse
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2005.07.22 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Stormfront
Quote: The fight could have gone either way, as AF's can handle BC's quite easily in the right circumstances
Just nitpicking, but Danks was in a taranis = inty :)
An inty vs a Ferox is 95% a Ferox win if the Ferox isnt setup to mine :)
Of course, you are quite right, 2 bottles of wine does nothing for the ole' concentration eh? hehe, ive edited the post to reflect true combat stats.
I still think a decent inty pilot could take someone like me in a Ferox, i suck :D --------------------------------
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.07.23 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: sapage1
VOTF has fought as much as any other corporation in this game and for you to say we evade PVP is totaly rediculous, even our enemies wouldnt say things like that.
actually, yes we do, repeatedly..
Just like ATUK evaded pvp in ceptors in BKG etc with dual mwd ceptors ^^
No doubt yer alliance has great pvp'ers but the sheer arrogance its unbelievable , yer alowed to say anything except others or they will get flamed by you and yer fanboys , just disgusting .
Oh well , i rather win a RL argument then ingame . _________________
Re-activated ...
Now lets see whats new , do we like it or im i ending back in the freezer ?
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.23 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: sapage1
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: sapage1
VOTF has fought as much as any other corporation in this game and for you to say we evade PVP is totaly rediculous, even our enemies wouldnt say things like that.
actually, yes we do, repeatedly..
My bad, let me correct myself.
Enemies who matter.
http://five.killboard.net/?p=search&n=sapage
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.07.23 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dirty Looks
RONA was not to be seen . VOTF was MINING IN NM-
While VOTF under Xirtam's command was busy doing mining ops to acquire 500k bistot ... SOLIDLINE was gettin scarificed.
Just some clarity here.
A: There is no Bistot in NM- B: The mining op the gain bistot, was done, hmmm for a period of 2 week, about 7-8 weeks ago, prior to me joining VOTF.
Originally by: Dirty Looks
Hell you can even convo ppl like "JVol" and "Shilo" or any1 to ask if what I say is true.
Anyone who says you werent an active PVPer, needs to log on.
Originally by: Dirty Looks
The Battleship fund ... of which Xirtam was In-charge never paid any1 to reimburse losses. 1.2 billion isk that I dont know where it went.
Total lies!
Myself, and everyone I have spoken to on TS, has been paid out in full.
I am amazed you would even suggest that!
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P1rate Dave
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Posted - 2005.07.23 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: P1rate Dave on 23/07/2005 00:25:47 to dirty looks every isk of the battleship fund was paid out to the pilots that sent in the appropriate information, if you missed out (which only happened if you didnt request a payment) thats your problem, your a disgrace.. im ashamed i flew with you, a small group of votf were mining for the first few days of the war myself and several others were out fighting as much (more) than you, and if you look on the mc's own killboard you can see votf killed as much as solidine did during the war
clearly your upset but thats no excuse for coming on public forums and posting outright lies about people and corporations that used to call you a friend
good job by the way you clearly did your part during the war Dirty Looks
gl with your future endeavours, i hope i see you in pf-346 soon
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.07.23 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: The Clash
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: sapage1
VOTF has fought as much as any other corporation in this game and for you to say we evade PVP is totaly rediculous, even our enemies wouldnt say things like that.
actually, yes we do, repeatedly..
Just like ATUK evaded pvp in ceptors in BKG etc with dual mwd ceptors ^^
No doubt yer alliance has great pvp'ers but the sheer arrogance its unbelievable , yer alowed to say anything except others or they will get flamed by you and yer fanboys , just disgusting .
Oh well , i rather win a RL argument then ingame .
interesting u consider my post the arrogant one..
the votf guy thinks he can speak for your enemies, and when 1 of them actually dares to disagreed they're arrogant..
As for the other random flames.. a) i dont fly any inties b) i wasnt in atuk when u could fit duals c) no notion what ur even trying to say after that..
--thoth
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Marklewis18
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Posted - 2005.07.23 00:36:00 -
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Guess I'm late to the party here, but since when does MC enter 0.0 space. Our space is secure enough that twice this week I have flown afk in a cruiser from NM back to orvolle ...
Won't comment on empire space as we dropped from the alliance in a secret plan to take over the universe which you'll all find out about soon enough ...
PS: HED-GP is enough curse to be called curse, come on! We're trying to relive the old days here !!! "There are 10 type of people in the world ... those who understand binary, and those that don't" |

Dirty Looks
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Posted - 2005.07.23 00:47:00 -
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P1rate ... not every1 received money for their losses. I can start taking names but am not gonna go into another long winding argument. Plenty of ppl did not receive a thing. On 1 Occasion a member of BTLS was even denied a payment until argument led to settling of tht problem. Again , I believe details of tht incident are best discussed in Private. The truth is .. Solidline has no support at all . Alongwith other small groups we fought our own war. That will remain the truth . My conversation with a leader in MC has them saying that we were 1 of the few who fought... and dont make me name those who didnt :) Anyhow.. I hear its sparked quite the furore on TS .. perhaps things will change for ya .
No need to send the whole Horde to the defense.. of course defending VOTF is your instinctual need. I can understand that .
Anyhow . Good luck .
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.07.23 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Marklewis18 Guess I'm late to the party here, but since when does MC enter 0.0 space. Our space is secure enough that twice this week I have flown afk in a cruiser from NM back to orvolle ...
Won't comment on empire space as we dropped from the alliance in a secret plan to take over the universe which you'll all find out about soon enough ...
PS: HED-GP is enough curse to be called curse, come on! We're trying to relive the old days here !!!
I guess we never go to 0.0.
Not ever.
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P1rate Dave
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Posted - 2005.07.23 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dirty Looks P1rate ... not every1 received money for their losses. I can start taking names but am not gonna go into another long winding argument. Plenty of ppl did not receive a thing. On 1 Occasion a member of BTLS was even denied a payment until argument led to settling of tht problem. Again , I believe details of tht incident are best discussed in Private. The truth is .. Solidline has no support at all . Alongwith other small groups we fought our own war. That will remain the truth . My conversation with a leader in MC has them saying that we were 1 of the few who fought... and dont make me name those who didnt :) Anyhow.. I hear its sparked quite the furore on TS .. perhaps things will change for ya .
No need to send the whole Horde to the defense.. of course defending VOTF is your instinctual need. I can understand that .
Anyhow . Good luck .
nothing to do with instinct, i dont like liars and i dont like you
stop abusing the solidine name for your own personal vendetta, solidine still flies with us happily as we do with them, they didnĘt turn their backs on us
everyone that was to be paid was paid your completely wrong saying otherwise. your original comments were intended to make out that xirt stole the entire fund for his personal use, your slowly changing your tone becuase everyone knows its not true
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.07.23 01:30:00 -
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Dirty solid received well over 100mill just by itself, for you being a director thats funny you didnt know that, makes you look rather out of touch with what went on eh ?.
Calling me a thief really makes you look dumb
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FowlPlayChiken
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Posted - 2005.07.23 02:26:00 -
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MC are good mercs. the best in the game. yes, we have a flamewar on our hands. oh no. not flames!
i duno what im saying, im sort of drunk. But,not too drunk to not know the truth when it slips its panties off and waves them in my face.
the truth is
i forget what I was going to say
i *heart* mc. and mercs. and imp. and their panties.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.23 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Aradon Edited by: Lord Aradon on 22/07/2005 08:37:34 My corp only just joined this alliance and its war and i'll sum it up from my side.
We moved to 4C (where we were to recieve support etc), we got raped daily. After losing over 500mill in ships ( a lot for a small corp ) we withdrew back into empire.
My overall experience hasn't been good, one event hit me hard with regards to my new friends, I arrived at a station in 4C, a wartarget was present, while I engaged 5, yes 5 IMP pilots passed and did nothing. All were more than capable of engaging.
Ganking groups have nothing to do with how this all went, if a solo char runs into a group of enemy ships its simple, he legs it and re-groups with several of his buddies and engages. I didn't witness this, all I found were *****in' pilots cryin over gettin ganked and losing their ship.
The best action I got was in a group of 30+ ships moving between Orvolle and PF etc, collecting equipment as Orvolle was "dead" to the alliance, that night we cunningly trapped two pilots and blew them away in a galant battle that lasted the best part of 10seconds :/
I dunno, all I know is this bitter taste wont go away 
I'll tell you from first hand experience how Votf works. When we were all in CA Xirt kept sponsoring all these ill-prepared corporations (why the sponship rules were changed afterall). Then, since they didnt get any support and weren't use to the rough and rugged CA life each corp would eventually get in trouble. Then, xirtam would swoop in and scoop up their decent pvp pilots and the poor corp would sink lower and lower. Then in a month or two he'd start talking of getting rid of them and/or using them to try and manipulate votes. When CA was started VOTF consited of Xirtam, darksheer and a few other alts.
I'm sure his kool-aid drinkers will come flame me, but all the old CA councilmembers will agree with my statement. Sadly it seems he hasnt changed tactics.
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs) |

Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.23 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij Seems Mc have trouble finding thier balls as well as IMP. Everyone of consequence knows IMP have been invading 5 space for 3 weeks. So your either pretty damned slow or still searching for your manhood. BTW for your information, should you wish to "debate" this, I can be found in HED or HLW (so you dont spend another 3 weeks wasting your clients isk).
Some day the other one will drop.
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs) |

XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.07.23 03:06:00 -
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LOL LD (AKA)darkryder your such a laugh, we never recruited ask Omaha , deros , Ed, seld, any BOS, etc your such a tard.
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Cowboy
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Posted - 2005.07.23 03:07:00 -
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Why the mods let this crap continue is beyond me. 
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Skelator
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Posted - 2005.07.23 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dirty Looks Edited by: Dirty Looks on 22/07/2005 20:46:21 Hi Everyone , I am Dirty Looks, former Director of Solidline before I quit to form my own merc corp and also a fleet command in Imperium .
Having been Involved in this war, I would like to state a few things ...just what I saw and heard.
On the night this war was declared.. I went on TS .. a bunch of Rona and couple VOTF and some others were sittin in a channel . I wait around a second to make sure they aint running a op... and then I ask " Hey whats our plan to fight MC" .. and the reply.., I swear to god not a word of a lie.. "We will not fight them ... just evade them , their tactics cannot be matched " , these were the words from a VOTF member who I will not name.
The 1st week of the war ... Solidline and some others... were fightin the war. Rona and the VOTF bigshots.. what were they doin u ask? RONA was not to be seen . VOTF was MINING IN NM- Yes... Solidline was so ****ed off at this .. I immediately pressed ANN and Pacifica to quit the alliance..But Pacifica is too nice a guy . I was in tht alliance for 3 months. I was in PF- everyday . If you want.. ASK THE TUNDRAGONS .. ASK THE TEDDYBEARS.. ASK IMP .. ASK RIP .. ASK any1. While VOTF under Xirtam's command was busy doing mining ops to acquire 500k bistot ... SOLIDLINE was gettin scarificed.
Dying daily along with some other smaller corps like N.A.A and MSHN .. couple others who cared... Hell you can even convo ppl like "JVol" and "Shilo" or any1 to ask if what I say is true. I tried to organise the alliance to fight MC several times but the apathy is amazing. A few MC can probably attest to this.. I fought you guys on quite a few occasions alone in my inty killing cruisers.
I lost a few and i got a few of your inties in this war. I attest to the fact that your tactics are good, but if IMP wud get off their ass ... if HALF OF THEM WUDNT BE MINING BISTOT.. then we could have taken it to you . Imperium as a alliance was pathetic... the much touted leadership was always mining. Mining away for bistot.
The Battleship fund ... of which Xirtam was In-charge never paid any1 to reimburse losses. 1.2 billion isk that I dont know where it went.
Quite amazing really. However seleene just couple of corrections... Warmongers havent been in the alliance for a long time and Gunrunners disbanded a while before you attacked. The rest if accurate.. I dunno what reasons SOLIDLINE gave for leaving the alliance officially... but I was a director and I know I wanted our corp ,alongwith ANN S, out of Imperium for a long time, however Pacifica is rather diplomatic and doesnt make solid moves. Anywho... I would say MC achieved what they set out to do ... At the end of the day ... most corps in IMP are now broke.. but hey at least VOTF still has their bistot eh Xirt?
Regards, Dirty Looks.
Nice Propaganda Post Better Luck next time
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C4w3
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Posted - 2005.07.23 04:38:00 -
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Hi Xirt!
Lets go play WoW until the war is off, ever heard that before?
your such a tard ;0)
OMGWTFHAXPLOIT!

"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |

Leafo
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Posted - 2005.07.23 04:55:00 -
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OMG!! Geez people!! 
Please mods, can you lock this kindergarten and show the kids somewhere else to play were all we others don't have to see it.
Blew stuff up. Client happy. Got paid. Stuff blowing up on film. Me happy. Will do again. Ugh.
Leafo
click on sig for all MC videos ever made
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Tiberius Caesar
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Posted - 2005.07.23 05:00:00 -
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Good job MC, I can tell by all the Imperium crying you put a real beat-down on them. Nothing says defeat better than forum crying.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.23 05:19:00 -
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Edited by: Darkrydar on 23/07/2005 05:22:23
Originally by: XirtamVotf LOL LD (AKA)darkryder your such a laugh, we never recruited ask Omaha , deros , Ed, seld, any BOS, etc your such a tard.
You think I care what you think about me? Lets look at where all the CA corps went, shall we? All the weak, pathetic ones still ride your coatails and all the real ones are in [5] or allied/friends. I wonder why that is Xirtam?
Btw super****h, I sold LD and made it pretty well known to those who matter. Sorry that I don't get to sit on my ass and collect welfare like you.
Add: omg, S L U T H is blocked.
Funny how the members you named arent even in your corp, but shooting at you now. Be proud and dont worry, the second tuesday isnt far off.
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