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RnD Guy
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Posted - 2005.07.22 07:51:00 -
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Edited by: RnD Guy on 22/07/2005 07:53:33
Edited by: RnD Guy on 22/07/2005 07:52:58
edit: had to replace a certain word with c*rack due to filters.
I was just reading a ammo BPC i have and realized it says "Licensed Runs."
That immediatly made me think about the Windows XP licensing and *god forbid* installing it unlicensed as software piracy.
Well got me thinking. I think pirate faction agents in 0.0 should be able to "c*rack" BPC's for an additional 1-5 unlicensed copies. The c*racked BPC would then become contraband for all races and empire factions so it would have to be made in 0.0 or low sec space.
The following is an addition to the idea that is "Maybe / Maybe not"
Also, perhaps there should be a bit of risk in this as there could be in real life. For instance maybe there could be a 10% chance that the agent you are working with to ***** the BPC has a concord spy investigating him and he catchs you in the act. Maybe this could make you take a 5% sec rating hit or something like that.
Maybe require "Hacking V and Research V" to do this so its not to wide spread.
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Kontraband
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Posted - 2005.07.22 08:41:00 -
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*Alt* I completely agree this would be awesome.
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2005.07.22 10:24:00 -
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Would also be a good use for the new Hacking skills. Good idea!
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2005.07.22 10:24:00 -
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Would also be a good use for the new Hacking skills. Good idea!
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.07.22 10:32:00 -
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Heh, yeah that idea is kinda nifty. 
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Hayzo
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Posted - 2005.07.22 10:47:00 -
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kinda nifty?
its brilliant. :)
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Sonorra Baki
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Posted - 2005.07.22 11:00:00 -
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Im not really and RnD type of player, but i must admit its an ingenious idea. It fits RP perfectly. Has benfits and drawbacks, and most important, content for both the RnD community and the 0.0 community.
All in all a very nice suggestion RnD Guy!
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Jonah Anni
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Posted - 2005.07.22 11:34:00 -
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Nice.
Would that also get some more folks into 0.0 space.?
How then could it be prevented that folks would also get ganked and the BPC's stolen. ?
Same on return trip.? Or as you mention the extra runns can only be used/built in 0.0 too ?
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2005.07.22 16:06:00 -
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So you buy a 1-run bpc for 10 mil, hack it, and sell it for 50 mil?
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RnD Guy
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Posted - 2005.07.22 16:43:00 -
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How woudl you sell it for 50 mil? :P
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Rafein
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Posted - 2005.07.22 17:02:00 -
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I dunno, all it sounds like you are getting is a few more runs outta it.
It's an interesting idea, but if we get reverse engineering like we are supposed to, I think it would be kinda moot.
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RnD Guy
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Posted - 2005.07.22 18:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Rafein
I dunno, all it sounds like you are getting is a few more runs outta it.
It's an interesting idea, but if we get reverse engineering like we are supposed to, I think it would be kinda moot.
It would still be kewl for RP, and we dont know if reverse engineering will be come or not :]
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2005.07.22 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Fester Addams on 22/07/2005 20:35:06
Nice Idea but there would have to be a risk involved or people will just hack their 1 run faction BS prints and build multiples, risk of a 5% sec hit just dosent seem like much of a risk if the other end would make you a few bil.
Make it work similarly to reverse engineering, ie chance of sucess, great sucess, faliure and catastrophic faliure.
Edit... the way reverse engineering was suposed to work...
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Kar Brogan
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Posted - 2005.07.22 20:38:00 -
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I say go for it, but in addition to the 5% sec hit if discovered, your BP should be confiscated.
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Sonorra Baki
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:06:00 -
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Just thought about it, and the risk should ofcourse be of ruining the print.
I bet i would deter some peeps from trying to ***** their 1run Machariel print, if there was a 40% chance of loosing the print.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:12:00 -
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The idea is very good imo,
details like the costs to improve bpcs and such can be worked out by ccp im sure ;)
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Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:19:00 -
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I like the idea IF the items produced are also contraband.
For example: You buy a 0-run BPC for an Apoc, hack the BPC to produce another Apoc (there have to be a limit on this), that new apoc would BE contraband. Take it to empire, and you start taking faction/security hits.
For a ship that never leaves 0.0, or for some folks who are alraedy hated by certain factions and Concord, this is not an issue.
Not sure exactly how hacked copies of Pirate NPC faction ships would be handled, but you'd probably end up ****ing off Concord in Empire (if you visit empire), and the pirate faction.
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Maurauder
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:20:00 -
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Very cool idea 
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:24:00 -
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Agreed, excellent idea. However, as a downside, give it maybe a 50% chance to fail, eating the original BPC. That risk would truly make it risk vs reward when it came to stuff like faction BShip BPCs.
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Niaski Zalani
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:28:00 -
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I <3 RnD Guy.
Great idea.
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Raze Zindonas
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:42:00 -
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I agree, I think it would be a great idea. I had wondered myself who in eve manageded these Blue print licenses, maybe you could also pay off an agent to give you an extra "legal" license. I'm not sure of the contrabaned code though is writen in a way that this would easly work. I know they complained of problems when it first went up. this would also be a chance for *gasp* more skills. Also maybe a new specialized profession in the game. Would be cool to have R&D working with hackers and agent runners.
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Remedial
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:45:00 -
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Only if in attempting to hack the blueprint, there exists a chance that the BP is destroyed by anti-pirate measures installed by the parent company into it, and that it lowers your Concord rating when you fail because you are breaking various patent treaties.
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Largonian Doyle
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:55:00 -
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how no one thought of this is a mystery to me, great idea indeed.
i forsee one problem however, randomness of chances (by this i mean a chance of succes or chance of losing) as there as very few "randomnesses" in eve's industry. also another run on a major bpc (think of a named bs!!!) or a "1 run or so" would have to be impossible as itdd be a major downside to not risking your ass (unless ur thinking the item itsself dd be contraband, wich is in fact not a bad idea at all imo).
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babylonstew
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Posted - 2005.07.23 00:57:00 -
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maybe the 'pirate' copies could be nerfed in terms of mins reqs, cost a lot to copy, and then have a chance based mins requirement system?
like ME-10 or something???
just and off the wall idea
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RnD Guy
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Posted - 2005.07.23 04:45:00 -
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Also to clarify the original idea was to only be able to hack a bpc 1 time just so you guys know, forgot to type that :]
Also I've seen alot of nice additions in here like a chance of the bpc being confiscated or being ruined.
:D glad you all liked the idea. I just started production myself and when I read the "Licensed Runs Remaining" i immadiatly thought of it.
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infused
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Posted - 2005.07.23 07:22:00 -
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Edited by: infused on 23/07/2005 07:22:44
Good idea mate... Original 
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2005.07.23 07:36:00 -
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I LOVE the idea!
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
For example: You buy a 0-run BPC for an Apoc, hack the BPC to produce another Apoc (there have to be a limit on this), that new apoc would BE contraband. Take it to empire, and you start taking faction/security hits.
I'm not sure if that's even possible with the current way EVE is coded, but I suppose they SHOULD be able to work it in...
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RnD Guy
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Posted - 2005.07.23 19:36:00 -
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well a mod oviously read it because they moved it. but i would have rathered it not be here because tbh not many people read this
Best Idea Ever!!
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Kontraband
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Posted - 2005.07.25 03:05:00 -
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Note the extreme drop in interest since it was moved to this forum.
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RnD Guy
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Posted - 2005.07.27 21:56:00 -
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:o
Best Idea Ever!!
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Plekto
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Posted - 2005.07.28 02:10:00 -
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Obviously the plan wouldn't be installable in factory slots(ie - your own corp's station/etc only) and insurance - not going to happen.
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Plekto
Priory Of The Lemon
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2005.07.28 02:10:00 -
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Obviously the plan wouldn't be installable in factory slots(ie - your own corp's station/etc only) and insurance - not going to happen.
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RnD Guy
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Posted - 2005.07.28 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Plekto
Obviously the plan wouldn't be installable in factory slots(ie - your own corp's station/etc only) and insurance - not going to happen.
wtf?
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RnD Guy
Gallente
XanCom
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Posted - 2005.07.28 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Plekto
Obviously the plan wouldn't be installable in factory slots(ie - your own corp's station/etc only) and insurance - not going to happen.
wtf?
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Plekto
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Posted - 2005.07.29 03:20:00 -
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Counterfit/reverse-engineered BPCs where the original topic. Obviously a ship made with them would only be player-repairable and have other restrictions on it. But at half the cost, it might be worth some extra micromanagement.
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Plekto
Priory Of The Lemon
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2005.07.29 03:20:00 -
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Counterfit/reverse-engineered BPCs where the original topic. Obviously a ship made with them would only be player-repairable and have other restrictions on it. But at half the cost, it might be worth some extra micromanagement.
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Seraph Demon
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Posted - 2005.07.29 22:35:00 -
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no no no, if you start trying to treat the ship that's built as separate from the vanilla variant, half the fun of this idea is dust. (besides, try telling CCP to great a copy of every kind of ship in the game that gets built for hacked BPCs, forget it)
Let the HBPC be contraband, but it should build a same-old version of the ship.
To hack T2 BPCs you need RDb from the corp that designed it.
This should be a service offered by pirate agents at isk & RP cost, plus a 5% chance per extra run that the BPC is destroyed (max x-runs = 19), reducible by skill and agent level/quality.
Maybe the chance of loss should scale depending on the nature of the product
Like, for ammo, it should be more like 1% per extra run, but for a T2 BS it should be 20% chance per extra run... make sense?
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Seraph Demon
Minmatar
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Posted - 2005.07.29 22:35:00 -
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no no no, if you start trying to treat the ship that's built as separate from the vanilla variant, half the fun of this idea is dust. (besides, try telling CCP to great a copy of every kind of ship in the game that gets built for hacked BPCs, forget it)
Let the HBPC be contraband, but it should build a same-old version of the ship.
To hack T2 BPCs you need RDb from the corp that designed it.
This should be a service offered by pirate agents at isk & RP cost, plus a 5% chance per extra run that the BPC is destroyed (max x-runs = 19), reducible by skill and agent level/quality.
Maybe the chance of loss should scale depending on the nature of the product
Like, for ammo, it should be more like 1% per extra run, but for a T2 BS it should be 20% chance per extra run... make sense?
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Plekto
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Posted - 2005.07.30 02:53:00 -
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Too easy to exploit. If we want a new toy, it has to have some difference from the standard way of doing it.
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Plekto
Priory Of The Lemon
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2005.07.30 02:53:00 -
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Too easy to exploit. If we want a new toy, it has to have some difference from the standard way of doing it.
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Seraph Demon
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Posted - 2005.07.30 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Seraph Demon on 30/07/2005 09:26:41
exploit? how do you mean? I suspect you mean along the lines of hacked blueprints being re-hacked. I think that they shouldn't be re-hackable, so if you took the risk to get only 1 extra run on your HBPC, that's all you get.
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Seraph Demon
Minmatar
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Posted - 2005.07.30 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Seraph Demon on 30/07/2005 09:26:41
exploit? how do you mean? I suspect you mean along the lines of hacked blueprints being re-hacked. I think that they shouldn't be re-hackable, so if you took the risk to get only 1 extra run on your HBPC, that's all you get.
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RnD Guy
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Posted - 2005.07.31 06:05:00 -
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Seraph = right
Plekto = doesnt get it
Me = Happy that people are replying
Best Idea Ever!!
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RnD Guy
Gallente
XanCom
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Posted - 2005.07.31 06:05:00 -
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Seraph = right
Plekto = doesnt get it
Me = Happy that people are replying
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Best Idea Ever!!
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Nirscout
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Posted - 2005.08.13 22:06:00 -
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This idea R Great!
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Nirscout
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Posted - 2005.08.13 22:06:00 -
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This idea R Great!
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Whelp
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Posted - 2005.08.20 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nirscout
This idea R Great!
Yes, yes it is.
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Whelp
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Posted - 2005.08.20 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nirscout
This idea R Great!
Yes, yes it is.
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Xandria Bogard
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Posted - 2005.08.21 03:34:00 -
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Reverse Engineering = Hacked BPC
There is CCP's way to use this. In 0.0 it is made at any station because, 0.0 is lawless. In Empire Reverse Engineering can be done as well and only used when offered to get built by an R&D agent. The Caldari Navy have tried to buy drugs from me lots of times. So if they are "bend" the law... why can't the run a Hack BPC - BPC are cheap now anyway. Bring on the Jovians - lets hack them too. GOOD IDEA R&D GUY - you just gave CCP a sure for Reverse Engineering
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Xandria Bogard
Caldari
Singularity.
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Posted - 2005.08.21 03:34:00 -
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Reverse Engineering = Hacked BPC
There is CCP's way to use this. In 0.0 it is made at any station because, 0.0 is lawless. In Empire Reverse Engineering can be done as well and only used when offered to get built by an R&D agent. The Caldari Navy have tried to buy drugs from me lots of times. So if they are "bend" the law... why can't the run a Hack BPC - BPC are cheap now anyway. Bring on the Jovians - lets hack them too. GOOD IDEA R&D GUY - you just gave CCP a sure for Reverse Engineering
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2005.08.21 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 21/08/2005 09:27:34
I dont like the idea, but I do have a suggestion.
If using the Hacked BPC, There is a Chance When BUILDING or Hacking that the BPC is confiscated and destroyed.
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The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2005.08.21 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 21/08/2005 09:27:34
I dont like the idea, but I do have a suggestion.
If using the Hacked BPC, There is a Chance When BUILDING or Hacking that the BPC is confiscated and destroyed.
And would people please stop writing "DEVS Please Read" Its a surefire way to get a thread either Locked/deleted or ignored. If u generate enough interest the responses speak for themselves. |
Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2005.08.21 11:39:00 -
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The act of hacking the BPC to increase the number of runs should have a chance to destroy it based on your hacking skill and some other variable.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2005.08.21 11:39:00 -
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The act of hacking the BPC to increase the number of runs should have a chance to destroy it based on your hacking skill and some other variable.
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Seb Tores
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Posted - 2005.11.24 00:52:00 -
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this IS a great idea, the risk should be 50% of loosing the BPC, some sec hit, maybe 1 or 2 in standing and the item made from it should be contraband. Also the hacking of the BPC should only work on an active BPC, not 1 that has no runs left. For example if you have 1 run you get aditional run, maybe double allways, so if it is a 5 run you get 10.
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Seb Tores
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Posted - 2005.11.24 00:52:00 -
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this IS a great idea, the risk should be 50% of loosing the BPC, some sec hit, maybe 1 or 2 in standing and the item made from it should be contraband. Also the hacking of the BPC should only work on an active BPC, not 1 that has no runs left. For example if you have 1 run you get aditional run, maybe double allways, so if it is a 5 run you get 10.
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.11.24 03:39:00 -
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Posted - 2005.11.24 03:39:00 -
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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2005.11.24 14:24:00 -
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YES... Signed massively.
A risk of 50% bp destruction (maybe not quite that much) would certainly stop people running off 500 bhaalgorns and omgwtfpwning the whole universe.
Do it do it do it.
Copies of Windows? Surely not!!!!!!!!! *Dhejay Centrix is shocked 
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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2005.11.24 14:24:00 -
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YES... Signed massively.
A risk of 50% bp destruction (maybe not quite that much) would certainly stop people running off 500 bhaalgorns and omgwtfpwning the whole universe.
Do it do it do it.
Copies of Windows? Surely not!!!!!!!!! *Dhejay Centrix is shocked
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NaitSaiht Sabes
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Posted - 2005.11.24 21:20:00 -
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I like the idea!
But I would prefer a chance of failure/success based on the "bpc-level" like mentioned before.
Nait
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NaitSaiht Sabes
Gallente
Tri Optimum
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2005.11.24 21:20:00 -
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I like the idea!
But I would prefer a chance of failure/success based on the "bpc-level" like mentioned before.
Nait
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Justus Imperius
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Posted - 2005.12.11 05:12:00 -
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Best idea ever ;]
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Cascade Industries
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Posted - 2005.12.11 05:12:00 -
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Best idea ever ;]
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2005.12.11 11:14:00 -
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I'd like to emphasize the points made above but overlooked somewhy.
What's the "licensed runs"? Obviously it denotes the legality of the product, to govern the bpo owner's rights. So if you do an unlicensed run, you are infringing the empire's (or pirate faction that the bpo originates from) copyright and patent laws. That means that a) unlicensed runs can't be performed at bpo originator's facilities (as well as anywhere at the empire since those treaties are probably international), so it should only be doable at the POS factories or at outposts under alliance's souvereignty, and b) the product is non licensed (that is it's not in the empire wide databases of legally built vessels or something like that) so when it enters space that respects patent/copyright treaties, it is being considered contraband - it will be destroyed by the concord and be KOS by all the empire low-sec sentries, and a huge sec hit will be incurred.
To limit the operation area of illegally built ship is the only way to prevent wide usage of hacked copies, which would just screw current manufacturing and research system.
To those who dislikes the product being "different version" of the same ship - well it does not needs to be, illegality might be just a property like an insurance type or the amount of damage, but this property can't be removed by repackaging for example.
I believe this is the only sensible way to implement it... it still would somewhat gimp the bpo owners though. Imagine hacking the titan bpc for example...
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2005.12.11 11:14:00 -
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I'd like to emphasize the points made above but overlooked somewhy.
What's the "licensed runs"? Obviously it denotes the legality of the product, to govern the bpo owner's rights. So if you do an unlicensed run, you are infringing the empire's (or pirate faction that the bpo originates from) copyright and patent laws. That means that a) unlicensed runs can't be performed at bpo originator's facilities (as well as anywhere at the empire since those treaties are probably international), so it should only be doable at the POS factories or at outposts under alliance's souvereignty, and b) the product is non licensed (that is it's not in the empire wide databases of legally built vessels or something like that) so when it enters space that respects patent/copyright treaties, it is being considered contraband - it will be destroyed by the concord and be KOS by all the empire low-sec sentries, and a huge sec hit will be incurred.
To limit the operation area of illegally built ship is the only way to prevent wide usage of hacked copies, which would just screw current manufacturing and research system.
To those who dislikes the product being "different version" of the same ship - well it does not needs to be, illegality might be just a property like an insurance type or the amount of damage, but this property can't be removed by repackaging for example.
I believe this is the only sensible way to implement it... it still would somewhat gimp the bpo owners though. Imagine hacking the titan bpc for example...
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Justus Imperius
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:24:00 -
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Exactly what above poster said. And that was the OP's point btw it just got lost.
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Justus Imperius
Caldari
Cascade Industries
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Posted - 2005.12.29 14:24:00 -
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Exactly what above poster said. And that was the OP's point btw it just got lost.
Meh Idea
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Questionable Alt
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Posted - 2005.12.31 18:07:00 -
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Buampitaiotorasd (Bump)
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Questionable Alt
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Posted - 2005.12.31 18:07:00 -
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Buampitaiotorasd (Bump)
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BobbyRaider
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Posted - 2006.01.01 12:36:00 -
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Ideally allow hacking of the BPC, but only one extra copy possible, with lower (or even negative) ME/PL, as well as a small chance for the BPC to fail during manufacturing :) heh ... so you get an extra BPC, but it's expensive to build, and you could even lose the mins ;) Also high chance (say 20%) of original BPC getting destroyed or losing ME/PL.
The built ship/item would be normal, but you could get caught by customs with the fake bpc and lose standing/get killed. But as an incentive, you get some small bonuses for the item built from hacked bpc ... say a 5% extra efficiency (less CPU or Power, or more damage, etc.) to make it interesting and exciting.
Bobby
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Lizz Litebeer
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Posted - 2006.02.12 07:48:00 -
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;o
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Packtu'sa
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Posted - 2006.02.12 07:59:00 -
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NO. The purpose of blueprint copying is for a corp to own a blueprint original, research and improve upon it, and then sell the copies for profit. What's the point of liscensing it? You devalue your product (the BPC) drastically, while vastly increasing the production costs.
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Justus Imperius
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Posted - 2006.02.12 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Packtu'sa
NO. The purpose of blueprint copying is for a corp to own a blueprint original, research and improve upon it, and then sell the copies for profit. What's the point of liscensing it? You devalue your product (the BPC) drastically, while vastly increasing the production costs.
Dont think you understand...
Currently BPC are LICSENSED copies of bpos. They are LICSENSED for a certain amount of runs.
The suggestion here is to allow a '*****ing' method that could allow 1 or maybe 2 more runs out of it, although it would be unlicensed and therefore not able to be built in high sec maybe or somethin like that.... Also there would be a chance in the *****ing process that would destroy the BPC all together. There could be a sec hit involved. There are many many risks that could be involved with such a low low low reward.
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Packtu'sa
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Posted - 2006.02.12 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Justus Imperius
There are many many risks that could be involved with such a low low low reward.
If it's so risky and with such a low reward, what's the point of it being in the game? It's like manufacturing something just to reprocess it-- you'll never get as much as you put in, so why bother implementing it?
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO
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M3ta
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.02 07:38:00 -
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/signed
Pity that devs don't care.
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Ellaine TashMurkon
MetaForge
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.09.02 07:50:00 -
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Great idea.
BPC wuld get a flag "legal = no" and be unusable in empire factories.
Making it shuld require as much or more time then normal BPCing.
Generally, mechanism near to the planned backwards engineering, only on BPCs. And all that fun :)
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Jillien Rutgers
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.03.25 21:18:00 -
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This is a very cool idea.
/signed
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Spoon Thumb
Khanid Aerospace Group
Khanid Provincial Authority
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Posted - 2007.03.25 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Spoon Thumb on 25/03/2007 22:03:49
For the love of God, change the thread title
Originally by: ReverendM
Forum Rules:
3) Please put some information regarding your idea in the topic. Topics named things like "An idea" or "Does anybody think...." will be renamed...and you never know what to YARRRR!!
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Is a good idea. Would probably need a little balancing / fine tuning in game
You could have pirate faction ships illegal to fly and illegal to hold the copies as well but might cause more problems, especial;ly as overnight a bunch of ppl find they can't undock
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Khaldari
Research Services
BPO Shop
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The Shylock
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Posted - 2007.03.25 22:29:00 -
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buy a 1 run mothership bpc. hack it. now you have a 2 run mothership bpc ;D
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
Apocalyptica.
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Posted - 2007.03.26 12:24:00 -
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Well - awesome idea if implemented correct...
only drawback is it will really only benefit faction, T2 and the largest T1 ships...
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.26 12:39:00 -
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The invention tools could have a hacking use too, they are made to fully decrypt a BPC and be able to work on it to improve it.
It could be the same, you put both the BPC and the interface in the production slot and you have a chance of building without using the run, and the PE will be reduced (time to properly decrypt the BPC) and ME can be reduced aswell (Bad decrypting of the blueprint).
The skills related to the thing you are building (exactly the same as for invention) gives you more chance of making a good ME and loosing less PE and a higher chance of not using the copy.
Having both skills at 3 would make you always successfull (in not using a BPC run), and levels over would reduce the ME/PE loss (shoudl be highly reduced).
+ : free BPC
- : must use an interface related to the technology, can use more minerals (ME), will take more time to build (PE), if you have bad skills in related tech, you coul still use one run as usual.
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Zinnn
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Posted - 2007.09.29 19:55:00 -
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I"m new, and I feel like I've been waiting forever. I want reverse engineering or at least item duplication implemented soon...
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Mr Broker
Station Gremlings
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:16:00 -
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yes give alliances living in npc stations an isk printing machine
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Helen Hunts
Gallente
Red Dragon Mining inc
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:33:00 -
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BAD NECRO, BAD!
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Mine da rocks, make more ships.
Pop da rats, make more rigs.
Sell da gear, make more money.
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