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Corvus Lupus
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.17 17:02:00 -
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I actually don't have EVE installed right now. I had to remove Windows 8 Professional from my PC and reinstall Windows 7, but I will install EVE.
While I was away I read some very interesting threads about tablets and EVE.
I bought Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 just about month ago and to be honest, I haven't used my PC after that. My computer usage is very basic. I use browser, text editing, spreadsheets and printer.
All that I can do with that androd tablet. Now it doesn't have full multitasking, like PC's have, but to my huge surprise I haven't really suffered from it.
Now, into the point. I came across this another space game, Vendetta Online when I was looking through Google Play store.
I installed it and wow how well it does run in that tablet. Well it has quad core cpu and 2G of ram, so not really a surprise. But the most important thing was the GUI. You used our thumbs to control your space ship. It was actually very nice way to control the ship.
That game runs in WIndows, Mac, Linux and Android. Pretty nice from four guys doing the game. Of course it seriously isn't as good game than EVE is.
Right now Valve has released their linux client, with around 50 games. The quality is getting better and bugs are being removed. Windows 8 is just bad. It just isn't what I have hoped for.
I see that ARM will be huge player in nearby future. Games in tablets are pretty basic, but you can always attach your tablet into huge TV screen, kb, mouse and docking bay. I can connect my note wirelessly into my tv and play games from big screen, wich is nice.
I think that there is a very good chance of creating a working EVE client for 10 inch tablets. Last year was massive for ARM and tablets and this year will be even bigger.
Windows 8 and intels problems in typical usage are high battery consumption and having a fan. While ARM devices are completely silent, windows tablets always have a fan (except the ARM version ofc).
There will be huge change in gaming industry and CCP should make opening move like Valve did.
While android client is still far away from happening, a real linux client is reality.
Normal gaming pc's are here for atleast 5 years, even more. But they will most likely run Ubuntu or Fedora, instead of Windows 8.
Linux client, that's what EVE needs.
My two cents. Fly relatively safe! |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2013.02.17 17:19:00 -
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Normal gaming PC's are here forever, and it'll take a lot more than 50 games to shake off Windows as the only legitimate gaming OS.
Also, of course Windows 8 is bad, every second release is, on purpose.
Edit: Almost forgot, inb4 move to OOPE [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
Lady von Baroness
Mizara's Dollhouse
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Posted - 2013.02.17 17:21:00 -
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EvE on Linux is technically possible, but requires WINE. A native Linux client would be awesome, but CCP have a lot of bugs to squash in the game, itself, first. |
Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2013.02.17 17:27:00 -
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Corvus Lupus wrote:Linux client, that's what EVE needs. Why would CCP spend time, money and resources to satisfy 1-2% of users that can run EVE with Wine anyway? They still not implemented DX11 support, because some old-fashioned weirdos use outdated Windows XP, and you demand whole native client for insignificant % of people who just need to be "not like others"?
Also, yet another thread about "Linux will dominate. This is revolution!". Happens every month or so.
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Borlag Crendraven
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2013.02.17 17:46:00 -
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10" tablet running EVE Online? I can see how well that will be received.... EVE is quite simply the number 1 game when it comes to requirements on screen estate, literally no tablet out there is even close to being capable of filling those requirements and based on the way tablets are being used, I don't see 22" and bigger tablets suddenly becoming a thing for the obvious reasons. Obviously screen estate is more about the resolution itself rather than the physical size of the screen, but think of it this way, 10" with 1080p resolution, just how are you going to use your fingers on it and not target the wrong stuff, activate the wrong command etc etc. It quite simply does not nor will it ever work in that enviroment.
Linux on the other hand could and would work, but as long as the linux user count remains low, there's no point in even considering about making a proper linux version. |
Ankles McGlashan
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.17 17:58:00 -
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You can kind of do this with TeamViewer but it's a bit fiddly. less so on a tablet I';d imagine, I've only ran it on my phone. i don't think Eve as it is currently lends itself to touchscreen devices at all well.
Which is't to say that certain aspects of the game couldn't be managed from a tablet. Skill Training, clones, trade, industry, contracts, inventory etc. everything in space would be a nightmare though.
Aura is brilliant, something like that I can fiddle with on the bus would be excellent. |
Thur Barbek
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.17 17:59:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote: but think of it this way, 10" with 1080p resolution, just how are you going to use your fingers on it and not target the wrong stuff, activate the wrong command etc etc. It quite simply does not nor will it ever work in that enviroment.
But think of all the failed titan jumps that would happen! Obviously this is the main reason ccp should implement this. |
Borlag Crendraven
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2013.02.17 18:02:00 -
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Thur Barbek wrote:Borlag Crendraven wrote: but think of it this way, 10" with 1080p resolution, just how are you going to use your fingers on it and not target the wrong stuff, activate the wrong command etc etc. It quite simply does not nor will it ever work in that enviroment.
But think of all the failed titan jumps that would happen! Obviously this is the main reason ccp should implement this.
Ok, I'm sold to the idea now. CCP please do it :D |
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.17 18:03:00 -
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Corvus Lupus wrote:Normal gaming pc's are here for atleast 5 years, even more. But they will most likely run Ubuntu or Fedora, instead of Windows 8.
But if Linux becomes commonplace you'll need to start using something else to show what a special snowflake you are
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Skorpynekomimi
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Posted - 2013.02.17 18:05:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:10" tablet running EVE Online? I can see how well that will be received.... EVE is quite simply the number 1 game when it comes to requirements on screen estate, literally no tablet out there is even close to being capable of filling those requirements and based on the way tablets are being used, I don't see 22" and bigger tablets suddenly becoming a thing for the obvious reasons. Obviously screen estate is more about the resolution itself rather than the physical size of the screen, but think of it this way, 10" with 1080p resolution, just how are you going to use your fingers on it and not target the wrong stuff, activate the wrong command etc etc. It quite simply does not nor will it ever work in that enviroment.
Linux on the other hand could and would work, but as long as the linux user count remains low, there's no point in even considering about making a proper linux version.
It runs mostly okay on my 13" laptop. Just dial down text sizes. |
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GreenSeed
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Posted - 2013.02.17 18:08:00 -
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didnt this OP made this same thread a month back? |
Anell
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.17 18:41:00 -
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Windows 8 has some problems, but it is not terrible. I installed it on my main box and my laptop and both are running EVE.
Whether it would work or not I doubt eve will come to tablet because it would require a change up of how ships are steered and the devs have resisted doing this since literally the game was released. Past reasons for not changing up the interface usually involve great difficulty in redoing the code. |
Hyacinth Protatius
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.17 18:49:00 -
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Why aren't games made in OpenGL |
Col Arran
Generic Incursion Tax Evasion
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Posted - 2013.02.17 18:58:00 -
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Anell wrote:Windows 8 has some problems, but it is not terrible. I installed it on my main box and my laptop and both are running EVE.
Whether it would work or not I doubt eve will come to tablet because it would require a change up of how ships are steered and the devs have resisted doing this since literally the game was released. Past reasons for not changing up the interface usually involve great difficulty in redoing the code.
Yeah once I installed start8 windows 8 really wasn't as bad as a lot of people are saying. Just need to get rid of that stupid metro screen and all is well. |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.02.17 19:28:00 -
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I just cant imagine myself playing EVE on something touchy and small, sorry. I like to sit in my command seat while using keyboard and mouse to play very complex game. No way to make the game usable for touchscreen and preserve its uniqueness and complexity at the same point. |
BJ McGreaves
Lost Dawn Chaos Stealth Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.02.17 19:30:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:Corvus Lupus wrote:Linux client, that's what EVE needs. because some old-fashioned weirdos use outdated Windows XP
I actually still use windows xp. I like it, works well. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.02.17 19:55:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:Why would CCP spend time, money and resources to satisfy 1-2% of users that can run EVE with Wine anyway? This. There's a reason why they gave up the Linux client: because it satisfied a user base that amounted to a rounding error and spent time and effort on something that those users already got for free (and better) from the rest of the Linux community.
Quote:Also, yet another thread about "Linux will dominate. This is revolution!". Happens every month or so. GǪfor the last 15 years or so. That's 180 months straight of revolution, with very little to show for it.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2013.02.17 20:49:00 -
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Col Arran wrote:Yeah once I installed start8 windows 8 really wasn't as bad as a lot of people are saying. Just need to get rid of that stupid metro screen and all is well. That's because underneath the metro screen, it's Windows 7.
BJ McGreaves wrote:I actually still use windows xp. I like it, works well. You should switch to 7 if possible. I too am a stick in the mud when it comes to OS upgrades (it takes incompatible hardware or games to get me to switch). But 7 is genuinely better. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
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Posted - 2013.02.17 20:56:00 -
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This thread again...
Remove insurance. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.17 21:36:00 -
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BJ McGreaves wrote:Sarmatiko wrote:Corvus Lupus wrote:Linux client, that's what EVE needs. because some old-fashioned weirdos use outdated Windows XP I actually still use windows xp. I like it, works well.
meh - bring on DX11 |
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Solstice Project
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.02.17 21:44:00 -
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Hyacinth Protatius wrote:Why aren't games made in OpenGL Ask John Carmack. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
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Posted - 2013.02.17 21:50:00 -
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TL:DR
OP is emotionally and financially invested in cheap android tablets, he finds out they are neat, but not very useful and is demanding someone justify his investment. Hey, I just met you... and this is crazy but you popped my Rifter, so don't pod me maybe? |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.02.17 21:51:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Hyacinth Protatius wrote:Why aren't games made in OpenGL Ask John Carmack.
Snarf.
/off to get some cleaning products
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Nex apparatu5
Friendship is Podding Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.17 22:53:00 -
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Stop pretending linux will ever be a big deal in the consumer market. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12895
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Posted - 2013.02.18 00:12:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:Stop pretending linux will ever be a big deal in the consumer market. It is a big deal in in the consumer marketGǪ
GǪjust not for desktop computing and the activities related to it, such as sit-down-for-a-long-time-gaming (e.g. EVE). Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
806
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Posted - 2013.02.18 00:20:00 -
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Coming soon, EVE on Raspberry Pi
--- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |
Austin McLaren
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.18 00:24:00 -
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The Future! Can't wait tbh. |
RAP ACTION HERO
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:04:00 -
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welp, the day will come but not anytime soon. 1. win 8 sucks. android also lags compared to iOS, most markedly in latency according to musicians who use tablets to produce. Which is another problem because you will not see any real games on iOS. 2. tablet battery don't last too long, kinda stupid to use a tablet plugged in. 3. ssd price per gigabyte still too expensive. 4. the touch-response is jerky as hell, seems like nobody except Apple can get that right. Also it's horrible how all these goddamn moron manufacturers insist on shoving their bloat down your throat with their dogshite skin UIs.
vitoc erryday |
Evelyn Meiyi
Meiyi Family Holdings
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:16:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:Corvus Lupus wrote:Linux client, that's what EVE needs. Why would CCP spend time, money and resources to satisfy 1-2% of users that can run EVE with Wine anyway? They still not implemented DX11 support, because some old-fashioned weirdos use outdated Windows XP, and you demand whole native client for insignificant % of people who just need to be "not like others"? Also, yet another thread about "Linux will dominate. This is revolution!". Happens every month or so.
Quite honestly, the only reason that I don't use Linux exclusively is the lack of Windows intercompatibility. Most of my games (incuding EVE) won't run on Wine without a lot of fiddling with drivers and settings.
if I could play EVE natively, without having to figure Wine into the equation, I'd switch to Linux as soon as I could install Ubuntu. |
Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:29:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:10" tablet running EVE Online? I can see how well that will be received.... EVE is quite simply the number 1 game when it comes to requirements on screen estate, literally no tablet out there is even close to being capable of filling those requirements and based on the way tablets are being used, I don't see 22" and bigger tablets suddenly becoming a thing for the obvious reasons. Obviously screen estate is more about the resolution itself rather than the physical size of the screen, but think of it this way, 10" with 1080p resolution, just how are you going to use your fingers on it and not target the wrong stuff, activate the wrong command etc etc. It quite simply does not nor will it ever work in that enviroment.
That's only true because EVE UI was created for PC screens. It could be modified for touchscreens and the way the game works, I'd even argue the touchscreen is perfect for it. That said, tablets have lower graphical and processing power, not to mention the resources needed to first create a viable second client complete with a modified UI and then keep it up to date with the PC version. Imo, the tablet market at the moment simply isn't large enough to warrant resource drain of this magnitude. |
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