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Frog Saken
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:24:00 -
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Today with the gates closed on Jita and 2000 in local spaming the chats it's become miserable to do business here.
A couple of suggestions that may help:
1. Eliminate Jita Local Channel. Nobody actually chats there because it's so full of spamming bots. This would eliminate those there simply for that cause.
2. Make Jita a safe haven where no PVP is allowed. This would eliminate the overcrowded gates at Jita trying to undock and get anywhere.
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Rob Crowley
State War Academy
53
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:34:00 -
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Frog Saken wrote:1. Eliminate Jita Local Channel. Nobody actually chats there because it's so full of spamming bots. This would eliminate those there simply for that cause. I seem to recall that local chat uses entirely different resources than all the flying in space stuff, so that might not help at all.
Quote:2. Make Jita a safe haven where no trading is allowed. This would eliminate the overcrowded gates at Jita trying to undock and get anywhere. Fixed that for you.
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Frog Saken
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:45:00 -
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Rob Crowley wrote:Frog Saken wrote:1. Eliminate Jita Local Channel. Nobody actually chats there because it's so full of spamming bots. This would eliminate those there simply for that cause. I seem to recall that local chat uses entirely different resources than all the flying in space stuff, so that might not help at all.
The Problem is that you have to be IN Jita to make such posts.
Rob Crowley wrote:2. Make Jita a safe haven where no trading is allowed. This would eliminate the overcrowded gates at Jita trying to undock and get anywhere.Fixed that for you.
Not at all the intent. |
Frog Saken
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
0
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:49:00 -
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I have to admit that #1 would do far more to eliminate overcrowding than #2. It would be interesting to some how see how many in Jita are actually there simply as a character to post in local. They are not trading, nor are they doing any flying. They're just taking up one of the 2000 slots in Jita so that those wanting to conduct business there can't even get into the system.
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BaddOxx
Demonic. Dominatus Atrum Mortis
0
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Posted - 2013.02.24 19:35:00 -
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Frog Saken wrote:I have to admit that #1 would do far more to eliminate overcrowding than #2. It would be interesting to some how see how many in Jita are actually there simply as a character to post in local. They are not trading, nor are they doing any flying. They're just taking up one of the 2000 slots in Jita so that those wanting to conduct business there can't even get into the system.
This ^
CCP please get rid of the spammers. |
Hurtini Hilitari
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.02.24 20:10:00 -
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You could make Jita a special zone where players must pay 500 mil a month to talk in local |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
780
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Posted - 2013.02.24 21:42:00 -
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Hurtini Hilitari wrote:You could make Jita a special zone where players must pay 500 mil a month to talk in local
Too cheap. Make that 500 mil a day. And add same price for activating your guns in Jita. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
33
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Posted - 2013.02.24 21:52:00 -
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As far as i can tell spammers in Jita is about 1-2% of local (i need to block only 15-20 spammers every time i visit it to be able to chat there without any problems), so i wont be so sure that disabling it will help. |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
780
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Posted - 2013.02.24 22:03:00 -
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Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:As far as i can tell spammers in Jita is about 1-2% of local (i need to block only 15-20 spammers every time i visit it to be able to chat there without any problems), so i wont be so sure that disabling it will help.
Yeah, and they produce 99% of the comm traffic. Disabling it will save you from eyecancer. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
33
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Posted - 2013.02.24 22:10:00 -
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As a side idea: make Jita be under permanent TD (50% or more). That would lower server load and allow for bigger population. |
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Lin Gerie
Hole Perception Fade 2 Black
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:58:00 -
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Or you could do that whole "emergent gameplay" thing and start up a secondary trade hub near by. |
Banana1x
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.25 02:47:00 -
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This is how I'd do it: 1) Put a big warning on jita local chat saying that multiple blocks from other players will flag your account to CCP. 2) CPP get a list each day of who was blocked the most and have a look at the logs. 3) If the person is spamming all day, block the entire account from chatting in any public channel. 4) Allow the person one petetion to CPP to unban the account from public channels. 5) ??? 6) Profit!
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Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
33
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Posted - 2013.02.25 03:29:00 -
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Banana1x wrote:This is how I'd do it: 1) Put a big warning on jita local chat saying that multiple blocks from other players will flag your account to CCP. 2) CPP get a list each day of who was blocked the most and have a look at the logs. 3) If the person is spamming all day, block the entire account from chatting in any public channel. 4) Allow the person one petetion to CPP to unban the account from public channels. 5) ??? 6) Profit!
Since when spamming in chat in trade hub is bannable offense? If you dont like it - block them locally. |
Cyprus Black
The Learning Curve.
671
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Posted - 2013.02.25 04:01:00 -
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Would it surprise you to learn that the largest trade hub on the Chinese server is also Jita? It wasn't done so deliberately. The Chinese don't play on our servers. It developed as the major trade hub naturally due to the many crossroads it intersects. Trolling is like art. Anyone can finger paint, but it takes true talent to create a masterpiece. |
Seranova Farreach
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
420
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Posted - 2013.02.25 08:16:00 -
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Banana1x wrote:This is how I'd do it: 1) Put a big warning on jita local chat saying that multiple blocks from other players will flag your account to CCP. 2) CPP get a list each day of who was blocked the most and have a look at the logs. 3) If the person is spamming all day, block the entire account from chatting in any public channel. 4) Allow the person one petetion to CPP to unban the account from public channels. 5) ??? 6) Profit!
severly abuseable. and i wouldnt put it past goons to abuse it thats for sure. |
Banana1x
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.02.25 08:25:00 -
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Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:Banana1x wrote:This is how I'd do it: 1) Put a big warning on jita local chat saying that multiple blocks from other players will flag your account to CCP. 2) CPP get a list each day of who was blocked the most and have a look at the logs. 3) If the person is spamming all day, block the entire account from chatting in any public channel. 4) Allow the person one petetion to CPP to unban the account from public channels. 5) ??? 6) Profit!
Since when spamming in chat in trade hub is bannable offense? If you dont like it - block them locally.
Lets be clear here, I'm saying to block the account from talking on the public channels, not ban the account. Secondly, it has to be verified by someone from CCP. I'm not saying ban anyone who spams, just the 'double your money bots', the 'fake underpriced 30 day plex'. The ones that are there 24/7 spamming the same nonsense.
As for it being abused, I think point 2 takes care of that.
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Mr VonBraun
New Eden Dynamics Eternal Syndicate
17
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Posted - 2013.02.25 12:46:00 -
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Agreed,something needs to be done about Jita...it's damned annoying sitting in your freighter at the jumpgate in Perimeter,waiting for traffic control to let you jump in. But...I don't think the spammers are the main problem,I reckon a lot of the popluation of Jita is made up of peoples trading alts,who never undock and are just there to play with buy & sell orders (I'm not critisising,I have a trade alt in Jita myself)
Second problem is the sheer amount of people there to scan your cargo in the hopes of an easy and lucrative kill. We have all seen the crowd of sharks circling outside 4-4.
Maybe the best solution really is to take some of the heat off from Jita...change a couple of jump gates perhaps,to make a nearby system an attractive and easy place to trade? |
Frog Saken
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
3
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Posted - 2013.03.05 22:03:00 -
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Mr VonBraun wrote:Agreed,something needs to be done about Jita...it's damned annoying sitting in your freighter at the jumpgate in Perimeter,waiting for traffic control to let you jump in. But...I don't think the spammers are the main problem,I reckon a lot of the popluation of Jita is made up of peoples trading alts,who never undock and are just there to play with buy & sell orders (I'm not critisising,I have a trade alt in Jita myself)
As server load has been brought up, Just like the local spammers, I don't think trade alts are adding to the server load causing TD. Traders are there conducting business, and 4000 traders I doubt would cause TD therefore not the problem. Spammers are however there using a slot, even though not adding to the server load. Therefore the reason I suggested removing Jita local. If spammers are indeed only about 1-2% of the local chat, than perhaps this is a missed mark and won't make any difference.
Mr VonBraun wrote:Second problem is the sheer amount of people there to scan your cargo in the hopes of an easy and lucrative kill. We have all seen the crowd of sharks circling outside 4-4.
This is why I suggested making Jita a safe zone. It may free up some of the slots if people aren't there for the purpose of scanning, reducing PVP and as such reduce server load and TD
Mr VonBraun wrote:Maybe the best solution really is to take some of the heat off from Jita...change a couple of jump gates perhaps,to make a nearby system an attractive and easy place to trade?
Also not a bad suggestion, although I doubt the markets would move from Jita,.. I think it's rather solidified there. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2642
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Posted - 2013.03.05 22:23:00 -
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Lin Gerie wrote:Or you could do that whole "emergent gameplay" thing and start up a secondary trade hub near by.
I like how this obvious common sense solution has gone largely unheeded. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
DataRunner Attor
American Cerberus Shattered Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.03.06 03:15:00 -
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Frog Saken wrote:Today with the gates closed on Jita and 2000 in local spaming the chats it's become miserable to do business here.
A couple of suggestions that may help:
1. Eliminate Jita Local Channel. Nobody actually chats there because it's so full of spamming bots. This would eliminate those there simply for that cause.
2. Make Jita a safe haven where no PVP is allowed. This would eliminate the overcrowded gates at Jita trying to undock and get anywhere.
1: Use the block feature, that is why CCP gave it to us.
2: You have no idea how much this made me laugh. Hold up hold up got more in my system AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It the players that made the choice of where the trade is, not CCP, if you don't like Jita take your trading to some other system. |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1670
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Posted - 2013.03.06 05:06:00 -
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Hurtini Hilitari wrote:You could make Jita a special zone where players must pay 500 mil a month to talk in local 10 free posts an hour, followed by a charge per post would be sufficient. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1670
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Posted - 2013.03.06 05:11:00 -
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Lin Gerie wrote:Or you could do that whole "emergent gameplay" thing and start up a secondary trade hub near by. One jump away from Jita is Sobaseki. Its also a trade hub. You may notice how well its controlling the population of Jita.
Cyprus Black wrote:Would it surprise you to learn that the largest trade hub on the Chinese server is also Jita? It wasn't done so deliberately. The Chinese don't play on our servers. It developed as the major trade hub naturally due to the many crossroads it intersects. Is it the same station, Jita 4-4? Or did they end up with a different station? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Juniorama
State War Academy Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2013.03.06 05:52:00 -
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Frog Saken wrote:2. Make Jita a safe haven where no PVP is allowed. This would eliminate the overcrowded gates at Jita trying to undock and get anywhere.
The day CCP makes a safe have in space where no PVP is allowed, will probably be near the day that I unsub.
This post has made me want to log all my alts into Jita and just leave them there when I sleep and when I go to work. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1572
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Posted - 2013.03.06 06:05:00 -
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i probably haven't visited jita for a year or so. It still has grey background, right? a eve-style bounty system (done)-á dust boarding parties You fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
darmwand
Repo.
88
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Posted - 2013.03.06 12:26:00 -
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Or you could, you know, use one of the other trade hubs? Like Amarr, Rens, Dodixie etc? darmwand Repossession Agent http://www.repo-corp.net/ Recruitment is OPEN |
TheSkeptic
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
134
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Posted - 2013.03.06 12:36:00 -
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Purge the bots... problem solved ... |
Michael Loney
Skullspace Industries
92
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Posted - 2013.03.06 15:36:00 -
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I like the idea of having a set limit to the amount of stuff you can have in stations.
Currently they are massive unlimited floating cans that can hold many times more than their volume.
Unless of course EvE has "bigger on the inside" technology.
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Each station has 3 types of docking slots.
Free
Max of 10,000m^3 of storage Max of 2 ships of any size
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