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Samillian
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.10.13 12:20:00 -
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Learned both within seconds of each other on my first day in EvE:
1. If it looks to good to be true then it's a trap (curse you "unattended" cargo container in belt).
2. Don't fly anything you aren't prepared to lose in fire. |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.13 12:25:00 -
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DIsposible Hero wrote:So what have YOU learned, and how did you learn it? I'm a n00b too. Obviously this is an alt...
Death #6:
What: Tengu Where: Motsu 7-6
Lesson: Never hit breaks in mission hubs, real life WILL distract you for that one second... |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2011.10.13 12:29:00 -
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What have mine taught me?
Oh lets see....
PvP is fun, I should probably drink less on long roams and local smack is boring
Solo losses taught me how not to fly/fit some ships, fleet losses are different (for me anyway). |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
556
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Posted - 2011.10.13 12:32:00 -
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Arakazzi wrote:That PvE is doesn't prepare you in the slightest for PvP. PvE arguably has a detrimental effect on a person's ability to PvP. Gives them a false sense of accomplishment, makes them over confident and lazy.
IMO this is a compelling reason for a total rework of NPC rats. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
flakeys
The Great cornholio's Paper Tiger Coalition
20
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Posted - 2011.10.13 12:47:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:in a rifter .5 system next to lowsec someone obviously killed someone and jumped to highsec and got poped instantly
lesson learned? if you near a lowsec/highsec gate its worth a peek to see if someone was dumb enough to jump back to highsec die anddrop loots..
Got a much better one , fully faction fit tengu , when roaming low-sec for fights make waypoints first OR don't be foolish enough to not check the security system you enter.Sure it was fun killing that mac in the icefield and i wondered wtf he was doing in low-sec mining away ... the concord surprise was even more mindboggling though
Surely took me a few minutes before i realised:''Did i just engage in high-sec in my 1.5 to 2 B tengu?
Good thing about liking pvp and having the isk for it yet forever being an utter noob at it , i laughed my ass of at the mistakes i made during my anuall pvp months.My friends offcourse laugh even louder when i show them my losses.It's callled 'pulling a flakeys' as they usually comment . |
Pyx Jasta
104th Ranger Mobile Combat Regiment
26
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:05:00 -
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Kilrayn wrote: Eve pixels are pricey, but that adds significance to loss, and in the end adds to the thrill of the game.
Heck yeah, it's the first game since EQ for me that provides any sort of heart pounding thrill, or that keeps me awake for that matter, and doesn't involve me sleepwalking through it. |
Lord Ryan
Derailleurs
37
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:14:00 -
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I don't know that my loses taught me anything, probably why I have so many. My old CEO did teach me that I lose so many ships because I'm a figgit. My wife was very upset to find this, and left me for said CEO.
All I can say is FUKU Mitch, have a nice day! -á
I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
61
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:14:00 -
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What my losses have taught me is that its just losses and are unimportant in the scheme of things. What IS important is that you are having fun, that even losing and your watching ships explode can be fun if you are playing right. |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness
37
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:20:00 -
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Death #1 Ship: Bhaalgorn Learned: When flying a Anti-Cap Bhaalgorn in a POS Defense fleet, you should make sure that other parts of your fleet have proper intel and have a proper armor fleet.
Death #2 Ship: Pilgrim Learned: Vagabonds with 220 Vulcans can still hit a Pilgrim pretty well. Fight was DAMN close, though.
Death #3 Ship: Hurricane Learned: Loki are pretty soft on tank. I should have stayed close rather than align out.
Death #4 Ship: Ashimmu Learned: Just because it can neut out a Vagabond and keep a Vagabond from moving doesn't mean it can solo a Vagabond. How may I drug you with drugs? |
Metal Icarus
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:36:00 -
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Prime lesson from living and dying in 0.0 space.
IF you see someone (like a scout) from a big alliance in 0.0 (Goons/Red/TEST/Raiden./Noir), they are not alone, nor in a small gang. DO NOT ENGAGE AND GET TACKLED. They WILL (without exception) blob the living crap out of you and will say gf in local as if it really was a gf.
Would stay if they sent like 5-10 people (we roam in small gangs)... but when local spikes to +50 when ever you see these people makes me wonder why they say gf (good f**k maybe?) in local after the ****. Just for one kill and it is just a rupture. (Or worse, a rifter)
Small gang PVP is best PVP. This is a fact. Maybe if that 50+ man gang split up into 5 different gangs, they would have more fun and people would actually fight them. Then it would be a good fight. |
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Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
27
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:39:00 -
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Don't fly what you can't afford to lose, seriously. Omen (really new)
Second loss - Seriously, don't do it. Omen (still new)
Don't attack neut ships like sentinel with armor rep ships, rifter. (drunk)
Make sure your D-scan is setup correctly. I somehow removed ships and probes from mine. Cue Drake landing on me while I'm tanking cosmic anom. I was D-scannin like a boss, but I couldn't see ships so I wasn't aware he was coming for me. Loss - Myrmidon. (stupid)
Don't try to warp off from a gatecamp in a cruiser or larger. Rather turn around and burn back to gate with your prop mods overheated + defence mods overheated. (Arbitrator) First one died, months later took correct action and lived.(3% structure)
Make sure your guns can actually track with their delicious damage (Incursus)
Fairly recent ones for me. |
Louis deGuerre
Malevolence. Void Alliance
32
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:43:00 -
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My last death : Goons may have a reputation for being stupid and fail, but that doesn't actually mean they all are. Using the same tactic twice in a row was probably a bit too overconfident. FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! |
Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
85
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:11:00 -
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Oh boy, where to start...
I learn something from just about every loss, but having recently passed the 200 losses mark, I obviously can't post them all here. Let's see...
Loss #1: Rifter, lowsec
Other players WILL kill you in lowsec. It is not just like highsec with slightly added risk.
Loss #2: Rifter, highsec
Canflippers generally only flip the cans of people they can kill. Additionally, a Brutix can kill a failfit rifter.
Loss #8: Bellicose, nullsec
There are warp disruption bubbles in nullsec.
Loss #27: Stabber, nullsec
This is the first loss where I wasn't flying a complete and utter failfit. Yes, it took me 27 losses to stop fitting dual shield boosters, wcs, plates, and reppers to all my ships. Sadly, not even an un-failfit can save me from russians in 0.0.
Loss #31: Hurricane, nullsec
You can't dock after aggressing someone. Aggression includes firing back after somebody else shoots you. In my ratting ship, no less.
Loss #37: Rifter, nullsec
Abaddons can instapop rifters.
Loss #44: Rupture, nullsec
PVPing with your PVE fit is a bad idea. Not even three badly fit PVE cruisers can kill a well-fit PVP Harby.
Loss #55: Hurricane, nullsec
Cloaky ships (Pilgrims) will not appear on d-scan. They will kill you when you are ratting.
Loss #58: Incursus, nullsec
Session change timers are a pain in the ass.
Loss #61: Rifter, nullsec
In a frigate, never sit still while waiting for your FC's orders, especially when a 'Cane is locking you up.
Loss #64: Hurricane, highsec
Nanocanes suck with t1 guns and nuclear ammo. Seriously.
Loss #67: Hurricane, highsec
If you rep someone and they concordokken themselves, you get killed as well.
Loss #68: Rifter, lowsec
Taranises are usually hulltanked. That said, it is not impossible to kill a t2 frig with a t1, since it was down to around 30% hull.
Loss #70: Wolf, lowsec
Not even wolves are able to avoid being slain by frig-killing ruptures. Also, putting deadspace fittings on your Wolf is unnecessary.
Loss #77: Dominix, nullsec
A vagabond can break the tank of a ratting Dominix. FML.
Loss #86: Vexor, nullsec
Small gang fights between t1 frigs and t1 cruisers still happen in null! \o/
Loss #96: Hurricane, nullsec
Aaaah, so that's what a hotdrop is.... At least we killed the cyno hurricane first.
Loss #97: Hurricane, nullsec
Sending a squad of BC's into a squad of sniper BS is fun if you don't mind losing isk.
Loss #99: Blackbird, nullsec
A curse does not need to be unjammed for its drones to shoot you...
Loss #101: Hurricane, nullsec
People bait in Guardians, apparently.
Loss #103: Hurricane, nullsec
My first nanocane... Dramiels will bump you off station. :/
Loss #107: SFI, nullsec
Vaga-SFI's are overshadowed by actual Vagabonds. Also, Russian inty pilots don't suck.
Loss #110: Dominix, nullsec
You should d-scan the station before warping to it after a hunt. :bubbles:
Loss #112: Hurricane, Amarr
Proteuses can warp scram you out to 20km.
Loss #114: Hurricane, Umokka
Not all carebear corps who you wardec are total failcorps.
Loss #117: Hurricane, nullsec
BAHAHAHA! Bait Hurricanes are pure awesome! :D :D :D
Loss #123: Hurricane, nullsec
Cynabals are good ships.
Loss #130: Jaguar, lowsec
Vagabonds are good at killing frigates.
Loss #133: Dominix, Amarr
Not even your drone BS is safe from a swarm of frigs with scimi support.
Loss #145: Tempest, nullsec
It's a bad idea to tell even your friend that you're shipping a BS across 40j of nullsec, especially when that friend is in the coalition that killed you.
Loss #165: Daredevil, nullsec
An exequror with dual webs and small lazors CAN hurt your 100mil faction frigate.
Loss #169: Arbitrator, Taru
That "mission nightmare" you tried mission-baiting was actually PVP fit. That said, PVP fit Nightmares can give Arbis a close fight. (I got him into armor! :D)
Loss #174: Vaga, nullsec
Rapier + Falcon is a bad, bad combo for my Vaga...
Loss #178: Curse, lowsec
ECM drones are unfair.
Loss #193: Curse, lowsec
Even if you kill a Slicer in the process, your Curse is not immune to a blob of frigates with scimi support.
Loss #198: Wolf, lowsec
REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR GODDAMNED AFTERBURNER.
Yeah, and that's the most recent loss that I learned from. Still learning.
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Trainwreck McGee
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2011.10.13 16:23:00 -
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Don't do a level 4 mission in an ishkur when there are webbing frigates. Lesson learned. CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
77
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Posted - 2011.10.13 16:32:00 -
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What my losses taught me is I do not get "The Rush", a good feeling from adrenaline inducing experience. In fact I get the reverse rush, that burst of adrenaline leaves me feeling worn out and depressed. Hence I avoid such situations in my play. Later I learned that my reaction is genetically based, I am genetically incapable of ever experiencing "The Rush".
This also taught me why many players hug high sec and avoid PvP. They are like me. They get nothing good from PvP combat, and no rules changes to the game will change that. CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
81
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Posted - 2011.10.13 16:36:00 -
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The general rule of thumb I go by is; fly someone's ships.
GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |
Spurty
V0LTA VOLTA Corp
32
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Posted - 2011.10.13 16:40:00 -
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Overview is as buggy as hell when someone warps 50+ rifters onto your grid
You never have the right ship for the fight if you're roaming and stay sat on a gate waiting for the scout to find something next door, after being scouted.
Those AFK cloakers never uncloak when you rat in an attempt to bait them to their deaths (They stay AFK), but the one time you undock in a hauler and warp to another station with them in local, warp to zero drops you off 6km from docking range :-/
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Devil's Call
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
669
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Posted - 2011.10.13 16:49:00 -
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A LOT. (Caps intended) |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.13 16:59:00 -
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Louis deGuerre wrote:My last death : Goons may have a reputation for being stupid and fail, but that doesn't actually mean they all are. Using the same tactic twice in a row was probably a bit too overconfident.
the goons actually consistently outplay their enemies. the "we suck at eve" was started by them, precisely so people underestimate them. also, you apparently never heard the second part - "but everyone else is even worse!" |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2339
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Posted - 2011.10.13 17:28:00 -
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My losses have taught me that space communism is pretty great. |
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Muse of Minmatar
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.10.13 17:39:00 -
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Don't miss an oportunity!!!
this is not exactly a loss, but I missed a great business when Planetary Interaction came out. Some items which used to cost 500isk now are sold consistently for 15x times that price.
I could have spent 3b and turned it to 45b within some weeks. But I just invested 500m in that, making 6b. Yes still a good business, but Me idiot!! |
Comrade Commizzar
Eve Revolutionary Army
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:07:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:My losses have taught me that space communism is pretty great.
LOLOLOLOL !!! YOU again??
Communism in the Goons?? Man are you brainwashed my little proletarian serf. YOU sir are a slave on one of the largest zero RMT Plantations in EVE... and you don't seem to know it. One thing the Goons really are good at is brainwashing their weak minded minions. You are proof of it.
I said it in another thread I'm sure you remember, that if you had an ounce of self respect, you wouldn't be part of the banana pickers of EVE. You would bite the hand of your Massahs instead. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2347
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:15:00 -
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Comrade Commizzar wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:My losses have taught me that space communism is pretty great. LOLOLOLOL !!! YOU again?? Communism in the Goons?? Man are you brainwashed my little proletarian serf. YOU sir are a slave on one of the largest zero RMT Plantations in EVE... and you don't seem to know it. One thing the Goons really are good at is brainwashing their weak minded minions. You are proof of it. I said it in another thread I'm sure you remember, that if you had an ounce of self respect, you wouldn't be part of the banana pickers of EVE. You would bite the hand of your Massahs instead. But the Massah reimburses me for about 85% of the value of all my PVP losses and sometimes lets me have seconds from the table when he and the misses are done eating.
e: You won't win this one. I am one of the people who handles reimbursement. I know the value of things. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
119
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:15:00 -
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Comrade Commizzar wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:My losses have taught me that space communism is pretty great. LOLOLOLOL !!! YOU again?? Communism in the Goons?? Man are you brainwashed my little proletarian serf. YOU sir are a slave on one of the largest zero RMT Plantations in EVE... and you don't seem to know it. One thing the Goons really are good at is brainwashing their weak minded minions. You are proof of it. I said it in another thread I'm sure you remember, that if you had an ounce of self respect, you wouldn't be part of the banana pickers of EVE. You would bite the hand of your Massahs instead.
You have no ******* clue what you are talking about.
Goonswarm, and TEST, will pay you for losing ships. The equivalent of the ISK you lost after factoring in insurance, paid to your wallet. Sometimes more. Yes, there are ships you are given ISK for losing because they are so useful in fleets. We call it space communism, and it is freaking awesome. You only have to buy combat ships once, then you're good forever. |
Thomas Orca
Intaki Armaments Tactical Narcotics Team
1
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:17:00 -
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Comrade Commizzar wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:My losses have taught me that space communism is pretty great. LOLOLOLOL !!! YOU again?? Communism in the Goons?? Man are you brainwashed my little proletarian serf. YOU sir are a slave on one of the largest zero RMT Plantations in EVE... and you don't seem to know it. One thing the Goons really are good at is brainwashing their weak minded minions. You are proof of it. I said it in another thread I'm sure you remember, that if you had an ounce of self respect, you wouldn't be part of the banana pickers of EVE. You would bite the hand of your Massahs instead.
Indeed, everyone in a major 0.0 alliance is an RMT mastermind or slave, and those massive ship reimbursement programs are nothing but a sham to cover up the RMT! |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2350
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:20:00 -
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Thomas Orca wrote:Comrade Commizzar wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:My losses have taught me that space communism is pretty great. LOLOLOLOL !!! YOU again?? Communism in the Goons?? Man are you brainwashed my little proletarian serf. YOU sir are a slave on one of the largest zero RMT Plantations in EVE... and you don't seem to know it. One thing the Goons really are good at is brainwashing their weak minded minions. You are proof of it. I said it in another thread I'm sure you remember, that if you had an ounce of self respect, you wouldn't be part of the banana pickers of EVE. You would bite the hand of your Massahs instead. Indeed, everyone in a major 0.0 alliance is an RMT mastermind or slave, and those massive ship reimbursement programs are nothing but a sham to cover up the RMT! We could be giving everyone 150% reimbursement for PVP losses if not for the fact that we recently financed The Mittani's house (in cash), and a beautiful puppy (in fur). :dealwizit: |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2350
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:23:00 -
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Roosterton wrote:Loss #68: Rifter, lowsec Taranises are usually hulltanked. That said, it is not impossible to kill a t2 frig with a t1, since it was down to around 30% hull. You are a goddamned hero. Also, yesGÇöTaranises are usually tanked with nothing more than a Damage Control II. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2350
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:24:00 -
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RoostertonGÇö Please find a way to join one of GSF's member corps, TEST, or some other blue of ours. You would fit right into our culture. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
121
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:26:00 -
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my taranis is tanked with hope and duct tape, and spits out molten death. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
121
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:27:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:RoostertonGÇö Please find a way to join one of GSF's member corps, TEST, or some other ally. You would fit right into our culture.
confirming. |
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