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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1752
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Posted - 2013.02.25 15:57:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:I guess from all the single shard replies i should clarify, i wouldn't see it has a second server that people can just switch between and log onto whichever they prefer. You'd either be on one or another, and that's that. It's still a single shard and sandbox style game, but it just fixes what i believe is a population problem.
The same way we can't log onto the Chinese Server, this doesn't take away from "what makes eve great" so why would a second server for the 1st world.
You're missing the point of the answers. Eve is one universe, not several copies running in parallel.
And if 50,000+ people all logged into the same universe as you spread over thousands of solar systems, sometimes having as many as 10 people in the same lowsec solar system as you, seems crowded, you should try living on planet Earth. We have billions of people all sharing ONE PLANET!! It's insane!!
Or maybe you just need an excessive amount of personal space to feel safe?
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
201
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Posted - 2013.02.25 15:57:00 -
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as I make deliveries almost everywhere in NPC regions, I can say that there is a LOT of empty low/null sec systems.
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TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
441
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:00:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:I guess from all the single shard replies i should clarify, i wouldn't see it has a second server that people can just switch between and log onto whichever they prefer. You'd either be on one or another, and that's that. It's still a single shard and sandbox style game, but it just fixes what i believe is a population problem.
Two shares are now one shard.
I need a little thumbs up emoticon thingy.
Also, you can log into the Chinese server, you just need to know how |
Nova Satar
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:27:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Nova Satar wrote:I guess from all the single shard replies i should clarify, i wouldn't see it has a second server that people can just switch between and log onto whichever they prefer. You'd either be on one or another, and that's that. It's still a single shard and sandbox style game, but it just fixes what i believe is a population problem.
The same way we can't log onto the Chinese Server, this doesn't take away from "what makes eve great" so why would a second server for the 1st world. The Chinese server exists because of politics and real life laws, not because of anything to do with the game population.
Thats irrelevant lol
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Gibbah
Rumors Of Survival THE ROYAL NAVY
8
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:45:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:Snow Axe wrote:Single-shard game is one of the greatest things Eve has going for it. Second (or more) servers would just dilute the playerbase and make everything less interesting. Agreed, but eventually it could be exactly the same as it is now, but across two servers? What i'm saying is, if numbers continue to grow and TQ is kept as is, it's surely going to reach a point where something needs to happen. Also, what would peoples thoughts be on more regions, and i don;t mean one more fw region like before, what if the universe doubled in size??
If the playerbase grow substantially I believe CCP would add more regions rather then adding servers. They done it before (Drone regions) so why not again?
I wouldn't mind doubling the size of the universe. In fact I would really like to see it happen. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2188
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:48:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:There must be others like me who feel that EVE just doesn't feel like it used to. No empty space to explore or quiet hunting lands to roam
Leave highsec
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Nova Satar
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:55:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Nova Satar wrote:There must be others like me who feel that EVE just doesn't feel like it used to. No empty space to explore or quiet hunting lands to roam Leave highsec
Don't be ignorant. Did you see your friends say that?
As a 2012 player this topic really doesn't mean anything to you.
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TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
441
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Posted - 2013.02.25 17:02:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote: As a 2012 player this topic really doesn't mean anything to you.
There's your problem, kinda sounds like "I can't do x because excuse y" territory |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2188
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Posted - 2013.02.25 17:31:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:No More Heroes wrote:Nova Satar wrote:There must be others like me who feel that EVE just doesn't feel like it used to. No empty space to explore or quiet hunting lands to roam Leave highsec Don't be ignorant. Did you see your friends say that? As a 2012 player this topic really doesn't mean anything to you.
Haha yeah, yet- as a 2012 player, I have been more places, seen and done more things than 2003 characters that are afraid to leave highsec because of implants and SP/hr . |
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
84
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Posted - 2013.02.25 18:34:00 -
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Maybe stargate connections need to be remade, different routes laid, maybe some more connections into lower populated zones instead of one or two bottlenecks. |
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De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1087
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Posted - 2013.02.25 18:36:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:Nova Satar wrote:I guess from all the single shard replies i should clarify, i wouldn't see it has a second server that people can just switch between and log onto whichever they prefer. You'd either be on one or another, and that's that. It's still a single shard and sandbox style game, but it just fixes what i believe is a population problem.
The same way we can't log onto the Chinese Server, this doesn't take away from "what makes eve great" so why would a second server for the 1st world. The Chinese server exists because of politics and real life laws, not because of anything to do with the game population. Thats irrelevant lol
Then why did you bring it up to support your argument if it's irrelevant? The Margin Trading Scam: If you fell for it, it's your own damned fault. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |
Karig'Ano Keikira
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.02.25 19:28:00 -
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Does EVE need more systems? Not sure, perhaps Does it need more diversity? Hell yeah, imo problem atm is that pretty much each (especially 0.0) system is identical to all other 0.0 systems in the region - sure you have bit better or bit worse rats depending on sec between 0.0 and -1.0, but that's it, EVE needs something to differentiate the systems (and this is doubly true for wh-space - it really really needs something other then ton of identical sleeper sites) Also I think that one of problems that makes EVE 'feel small' is instant travel - when alliance can project their fleet at massive distances with relative ease, it makes space feel small no matter the actual size. As for new server, well... I can see the motivation, especially for newer players, but EVE is built around idea of single universe, so nah, I don't like it |
Clara Stewart
Stewart Collections
16
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Posted - 2013.02.25 22:57:00 -
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Actualy I wouldnt mind a new server as I feel Tq has become stale. Manafacturing and industry are over populated and saturated the market is overloaded with every item nothing is rare or hard to get this includes deadspace/faction. There is to much isk ingame and the big t2 bpo screw up.
Eve must have been awesome in the first 3 years even if you never had half of what we do now. |
gobbybobby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
13
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Posted - 2013.02.25 23:19:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:No second server. Ever.
Make Eve bigger however? Hell yes. More diverse areas of space, Maybe patches of nullsec ONLY accessible by WH, islands of hisec with some nice resources or missions, right in the middle of a big area of lowsec. Lowsec that is actually interesting.
Small patches of nullsec that are NOT accessible to capitals jumping from any other null or lowsec space. Space that has anomolies like that big explosive cloud and stuff like that. Make it big and interesting.
this. |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
456
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Posted - 2013.02.25 23:27:00 -
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Behold, the only thread suggesting that EVE actually feels too crowded.
EVE is not crowded at all.
More than half of the Hi-sec population is in a small group of systems scattered between the 4 Empires.
Low sec is system after system of less than 10 people in local.
Null sec has a pattern of being well spread out in some areas and absolutely abandoned in others.
I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
558
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Posted - 2013.02.25 23:35:00 -
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Should be shrinking it instead. Pack everyone in like wild ******* animals, then you'll get some emergent content. |
Ris Dnalor
L'Avant Garde Happy Endings
452
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Posted - 2013.02.26 00:10:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:There must be others like me who feel that EVE just doesn't feel like it used to. No empty space to explore or quiet hunting lands to roam, it doesnt feel BIG anymore and i think a game set in space probably should.... It's rare to find any lowsec areas with less than 10 people every other system and empire is just a big mess. Null has some space sure, but you can't get to it without having to go through some massively congested areas so that argument is non exsistant.
I'd be surprised if those who remember the servers at 35,000 max would say it's better now at 60,000...
The question is, could extra regions help this, or could there even be the possibility of a second server?
Edit: Snipped foul language; please don't use profanity, it's against the rules. ISD Suvetar
It's difficult enough sometimes to find pvp now without shards.
And surprised as you may be, i find it better now than it was before, and look forward to 100k online. There's plenty of room in eve as is to hold 250k folks online at the same time. It might even force/enable more trade hubs!?!?!?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
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Leper ofBacon
HELP GRANDMA SMASH HER LEGS IN
3
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Posted - 2013.02.26 00:25:00 -
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa wrote:Maybe stargate connections need to be remade, different routes laid, maybe some more connections into lower populated zones instead of one or two bottlenecks.
This could be cool.
The problem however is not that there isn't enough physical space for everyone, it's that space has to be combined with a purpose to spend your time there. Give people something to harvest which they can use and it would fill up due to all the actual game experiences to be had there. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2887
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Posted - 2013.02.26 00:27:00 -
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I've roamed through vast empty pipes of highsec recently, and lowsec has some systems that are almost permanently empty.
The problem isn't the size of the universe, it's force projection. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
Irya Boone
TIPIAKS
210
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Posted - 2013.02.26 03:27:00 -
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Even if i swore to not respond to troll ... i will .. tonight
I came back with my fleet from a roam Lowsec To 0.0 ... guess What .. ? yeah say it , i know you know the end of my sentence Improve C2 class WH More anos more signs ...RENAME null sec system With the name Of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It xill be awesome-á |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3426
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Posted - 2013.02.26 03:40:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Nova Satar wrote:No More Heroes wrote:Nova Satar wrote:There must be others like me who feel that EVE just doesn't feel like it used to. No empty space to explore or quiet hunting lands to roam Leave highsec Don't be ignorant. Did you see your friends say that? As a 2012 player this topic really doesn't mean anything to you. Haha yeah, yet- as a 2012 player, I have been more places, seen and done more things than 2003 characters that are afraid to leave highsec because of implants and SP/hr We've had newbies hotdropping on people. You'd never see that in highsec, non-cyno-lighting aside. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep Silent Requiem
46
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Posted - 2013.02.26 03:41:00 -
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I think the OP has missed the point of Eve being in a single shard server setup and the fact that having lots of people is a good thing for Eve... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3426
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Posted - 2013.02.26 03:42:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I've roamed through vast empty pipes of highsec recently, and lowsec has some systems that are almost permanently empty.
The problem isn't the size of the universe, it's force projection. Yeah, those ice miners are projecting their force.
Similarly for the lowsec pirates projecting force from the gate to highsec that they are camping in instalock cruisers or something. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Bluetippedflyer
Mafia Redux
79
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Posted - 2013.02.26 06:09:00 -
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ill take a new server |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor
105
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Posted - 2013.02.26 06:24:00 -
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Skeln Thargensen wrote:It's not that it's too small, it's just that it's a little too easy to be found.
this is not necessarily a get rid of immediate local post but you know what I mean.
Local is fine, just get rid of the instance Statistical maps, have it show only what happen yesterday. |
cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers THORN Alliance
136
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Posted - 2013.02.26 06:24:00 -
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I feel personally that a few more regions would be good but you would have to be very careful where and what type.
I do think the game needs a couple more regions that stem off directly from highsec (like providence type space). The type of space that is great for new guys trying to get there feet wet in nullsec. Great for low level bears to exploit for iskies too.
A place though that is lacking in moon and mineral resources but is still better than lowsec. (Low true sec providence type space)
Then I also think we need some space that is really really off the beaten track. Hard to access, really far away but potentially with great resources to exploit. The good old days of Unreal Tournament, fragging and sniping on Facing Worlds, listening to Foregone Destruction....... |
Nova Satar
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
29
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Posted - 2013.02.26 10:03:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Nova Satar wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:Nova Satar wrote:I guess from all the single shard replies i should clarify, i wouldn't see it has a second server that people can just switch between and log onto whichever they prefer. You'd either be on one or another, and that's that. It's still a single shard and sandbox style game, but it just fixes what i believe is a population problem.
The same way we can't log onto the Chinese Server, this doesn't take away from "what makes eve great" so why would a second server for the 1st world. The Chinese server exists because of politics and real life laws, not because of anything to do with the game population. Thats irrelevant lol Then why did you bring it up to support your argument if it's irrelevant?
The reason why the Chinese server is irrelevant, the fact it does just gives an examples of how a second server might work. Have we lost the sandbox greatness that everbody is harping on about because of the chinese server was made? No.
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Nova Satar
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
29
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Posted - 2013.02.26 10:04:00 -
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dark heartt wrote:I think the OP has missed the point of Eve being in a single shard server setup and the fact that having lots of people is a good thing for Eve...
So if we hit 70k players? 80k players? You dont think any expansion of space is needed?
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Josh Fehrnah
F---ing Nublets Broken Toys
7
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Posted - 2013.02.26 14:10:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:No.
Your region is too populated . Explore lonely regions in low sec and null. Its quite dead there I don't have a region lol..... I play everywhere and assure you nowhere is dead in low-sec, and the few places that are dead in null are dead for a reason, and inaccessible without the very blob many of us are trying to avoid.
Have a look around Devoid/Derelik. Pretty dead round there, especially Devoid. |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
295
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Posted - 2013.02.26 14:16:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Nova Satar wrote:could there even be the possibility of a second server? No. Why?
Once upon a time, Conan was asked: "What is good in life?"
He had a few things to say about "crushing enemies" and "lamentation of the women", but his answers didn't include "another server" -- and neither does CCP's.
Hope that helps.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
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