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LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:14:00 -
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The only thing i can do is break rock. And that gets borring fast.
I've tried missions. Got in a BS, fitted it proper. It just doesn't work. They do damage and i don't. Heck i'm doing 200-400 per salvo in the BS and in the BC i'd do about 400-500 all hits. Plus it's not cap stable and they just wear me out.
I haven't even been back for a week and i already canceled. People in help are worse that wow regarding elitism. There's just one fit for everything according to them. Well that fit doesn't work. And i'm not getting help in making another. They're not even pointing out why it doesn't work.
I don't want to spend my time mining. I did that and i wanted to try something else. If that's all there is in EvE for me well i'm going to lose interest real fast. |
stoicfaux
282
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:19:00 -
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What ship are you flying? What's your fitting? What do your skills look like? What NPCs are you fighting?
Once you answer those questions and this thread gets moved to the Mission or Ships forum, you'll get some help.
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:20:00 -
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Assuming this isn't a troll...
Not knowing the details of what type of PVE you are doing, or what your fit is, all that I can do is try to address the root of the problem.
If you have'nt done the tutorials, do those first.
Then join a helpful corp, perhaps check out EVE University. Get on their voice coms if possible and talk to your corp mates. In a decent corp they will be happy to help figure out what you are missing.
This is one of the major underlying principals of EVE. To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate BricK sQuAD.
12
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:21:00 -
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Make some friends, join a corp. Stop getting trolled in the help channel wtfever that is. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:22:00 -
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I don't know and it would be a pain to type here.
Just for you.
I don't know what to expect from this forum and i meant to talk about the general aspect of my situation if you catch my drift.
EDIT: Whatever. This isn't helping. |
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
129
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:24:00 -
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I may be wrong, but it sounds to me like you have one character, relatively new, and have your skills spread out all over the place trying to do bits of this and bits of that to see what you like. Am I right on that?
If so, there's your problem. Ships and fits require more than just the requirements to fly the ship... you need to work the supplimental skills up as well to make things run properly. You need to train your cap skills up, your armor/shield tanking skills, your weapon skills, all of 'em. It's not a fast process. Basically, though, you'll initially need to specialize and become effective at one thing before you generalize into additional areas. You're good at mining, for example? For the time being, keep mining while you train your other skills up... then step into, say, BC and have a go at running missions or the like.
You need to give yourself focus into an area and push it through. That's when you'll really start seeing results. Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
19
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:24:00 -
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LunarGlow wrote:I don't know and it would be a pain to type here.
Just for you.
I don't know what to expect from this forum and i meant to talk about the general aspect of my situation if you catch my drift.
EDIT: Whatever. This isn't helping.
I'm guessing that your above statement, or similar ones to it are why you're not getting any help. :effort: |
Famble
Three's a Crowd
10
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:24:00 -
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LunarGlow wrote:The only thing i can do is break rock. And that gets borring fast.
I've tried missions. Got in a BS, fitted it proper. It just doesn't work. They do damage and i don't. Heck i'm doing 200-400 per salvo in the BS and in the BC i'd do about 400-500 all hits. Plus it's not cap stable and they just wear me out.
I haven't even been back for a week and i already canceled. People in help are worse that wow regarding elitism. There's just one fit for everything according to them. Well that fit doesn't work. And i'm not getting help in making another. They're not even pointing out why it doesn't work.
I don't want to spend my time mining. I did that and i wanted to try something else. If that's all there is in EvE for me well i'm going to lose interest real fast.
I'll agree with you about the elitists, Eve has, by far the worst community of all MMO's ever created.
That said, if you can't find an effective fit on BattleClinic for your L4's than you truly are doinitwrong. Click the "recommended fits only" button for even better setups. http://eve.battleclinic.com/browse_loadouts.php
Cap stable is highly, highly overrated. It's a security blanket that us carebears won't give up until someone rips it out of our shaking fingers. You really, really don't need to be cap stable if it eats into your "gank". Use Eve-Survival to learn the triggers for each mission (read the player comments too for each mission report) and you'll rarely be overwhelmed. http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReports
Learn your effective ranges for your weapons and know that outside of that effective envelope you're DPS is going to drop, exponentially.
Good luck.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
526
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:28:00 -
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I bet you're using a railgun ship of some sort
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
39
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:28:00 -
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Famble wrote:LunarGlow wrote:The only thing i can do is break rock. And that gets borring fast.
I've tried missions. Got in a BS, fitted it proper. It just doesn't work. They do damage and i don't. Heck i'm doing 200-400 per salvo in the BS and in the BC i'd do about 400-500 all hits. Plus it's not cap stable and they just wear me out.
I haven't even been back for a week and i already canceled. People in help are worse that wow regarding elitism. There's just one fit for everything according to them. Well that fit doesn't work. And i'm not getting help in making another. They're not even pointing out why it doesn't work.
I don't want to spend my time mining. I did that and i wanted to try something else. If that's all there is in EvE for me well i'm going to lose interest real fast. I'll agree with you about the elitists, Eve has, by far the worst community of all MMO's ever created. That said, if you can't find an effective fit on BattleClinic for your L4's than you truly are doinitwrong. Click the "recommended fits only" button for even better setups. http://eve.battleclinic.com/browse_loadouts.phpCap stable is highly, highly overrated. It's a security blanket that us carebears won't give up until someone rips it out of our shaking fingers. You really, really don't need to be cap stable if it eats into your "gank". Use Eve-Survival to learn the triggers for each mission (read the player comments too for each mission report) and you'll rarely be overwhelmed. http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReportsLearn your effective ranges for your weapons and know that outside of that effective envelope you're DPS is going to drop, exponentially. Good luck.
Also bear in mind that the weapons on a Battleship do not hit smaller targets very well, so if you are trying to blast the same frigates wtih BS weapons that you popped more easily in a Battle Cruiser, you need to use the right tool for the job (perhaps drones). To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
145
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:29:00 -
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Theres one ship and one fit for everything, for people who don't know how to create fittings of their own. You say its impossible to run level 4 missions and yet there are people with 200m BS's running them in matter of minutes, while not even getting their shields scratched.
I suggest you take your head out of the sand and do some proper research about the game you're playing, before calling those who are trying to help you "Clueless elititst" (even though quite honestly there are some out there...) Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
9
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:31:00 -
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Just join EVE-Uni. They'll show you the ropes. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
19
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:31:00 -
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Just before you quit, don't forget to contract all your belongings to me. K? Thanks in advance. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate Not Usually Killing Everyone.
92
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:33:00 -
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Srry I haven't been in help channel in a while
I guess I'll have to hop back in to inject some sanity back in there.... The Drake is a Lie |
Flamewave
Crimson Moon Society
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:35:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:I bet you're using a railgun ship of some sort The fastest mission running ship I've seen is a rail boat. Some things ISK can't buy. For everything else, there's Jita. |
KaarBaak
79
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:36:00 -
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The most common problem in this situation is that people train the minimum pre-requisites to fly and fit a ship...and that just won't cut it. You need to be able to it T2 defensive mods and ideally T2 guns...though meta3/4 on the offensive side helps...along with faction ammo.
A good guide...and I'm willing to take the hit for recommending it...get the standard-level certs for your defensive system (shields or armor) and the standard large weapon certs, using the certifications in-game.
With that level of skill, you should do fine missioning. Until then, you're probably better off running level 3s in a similarly fit/trained BC.
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FOl2TY8
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:37:00 -
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You guys he doesn't want help he's just too lazy to open a livejournal account. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
526
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:40:00 -
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Flamewave wrote:Bumblefck wrote:I bet you're using a railgun ship of some sort The fastest mission running ship I've seen is a rail boat.
Please tell us what this mystic uber fast mission running rail ship is :)
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:42:00 -
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LunarGlow wrote:The only thing i can do is break rock. And that gets borring fast.
I've tried missions. Got in a BS, fitted it proper. It just doesn't work. They do damage and i don't. Heck i'm doing 200-400 per salvo in the BS and in the BC i'd do about 400-500 all hits. Plus it's not cap stable and they just wear me out.
I haven't even been back for a week and i already canceled. People in help are worse that wow regarding elitism. There's just one fit for everything according to them. Well that fit doesn't work. And i'm not getting help in making another. They're not even pointing out why it doesn't work.
I don't want to spend my time mining. I did that and i wanted to try something else. If that's all there is in EvE for me well i'm going to lose interest real fast.
1-you're trolling
2-you didn't asked the right questions and/or you took the bad conclusions
I'll admit you're in 2
Ship you're flying?
Your skills related to: engineering, mechanic, electronics, weapon system related (guns I suppose)
What are you doing exactly with your ship and/or what do you want to do with your ship?
Do you use Eve moon? Do you ever used EFT or Pyfa ?
Did you petitioned help from some GM? (some are kind enough to help you understand some stuff quickly and go forward)
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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
393
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:43:00 -
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Eve is not for lazy people that whine like babies. GÖÑ Haviing your portrait painted here helps INTAKI Disabled Children GÖÑ |
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LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:45:00 -
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I was sick of wow. Bought a month here to play eve. I get here only to find my eve is same as i left it. I can barely manage not to get my ships blown running, and that's only because they don'T scramble me.
Forums beeing what they are you get the less than helpful and the rest in an all included bundle. I want to do L4 and i want to know what i'm doing wrong.
Quitting is not helping. But then again nothing is... |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
141
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:55:00 -
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Next time you're online, private convo me and I'll be happy to walk you through whatever help you need fitting and flying your ship. I can't guarantee you I have ALL the answers, but I'm more than willing to spend some one-on-one time with you and get you set up and on the right track.
Yes, you'll get lots of generic "join a corp" "read this wiki" responses here, and I understand that is equally as frustrating.
You'll learn quickly one has to develop a thick skin fast, and endure a certain amount of trolling / noob treatment from disrespectful veterans, but if you tough it out, there's plenty of us around who will get you on your feet without asking anything in return. Dont take the bullshit too seriously.
Eve is a very socially dependent game, the general chats and help chats are fairly vicious places (and the forums can be worse), but others are correct here in saying that corps like Eve University and Red vs Blue are very friendly to new players and will show you the ropes, and the people are much more hospitable once you've joined a corp with them. Most of the fun in eve does NOT stem from simply running missions or mining, its what you do with all that money you earn and who you fly with and what you find yourself entangled in that ends up being the most fun.
I hate to see someone so discouraged so early on, so ask me anything you need either via EveMail, or directly convoing me (you can add me as a contact to see when I'm online) and I'll research whatever information you need if I don't already know it myself.
Don't give up, there's plenty of people around to help!
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Flamewave
Crimson Moon Society
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:57:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Flamewave wrote:Bumblefck wrote:I bet you're using a railgun ship of some sort The fastest mission running ship I've seen is a rail boat. Please tell us what this mystic uber fast mission running rail ship is :) Kronos, of course. You can destroy a good number of L4 missions before even hitting armor.
To the OP: Personally I used to run the Drake on L4's. It's not fast but properly skilled it'll break anything I've gone against. You'll have to come back after to salvage which is a negative. I can throw the fit I use your way if you'd like. Some things ISK can't buy. For everything else, there's Jita. |
Kasriel
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.13 19:01:00 -
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LunarGlow wrote:I was sick of wow. Bought a month here to play eve. I get here only to find my eve is same as i left it. I can barely manage not to get my ships blown running, and that's only because they don'T scramble me.
Forums beeing what they are you get the less than helpful and the rest in an all included bundle. I want to do L4 and i want to know what i'm doing wrong.
Quitting is not helping. But then again nothing is...
can't tell if your serious or just trolling..
take a minute to actually read the responses, put the info out that is requested and all those people who have tried to help won't be wasting their time, surprisingly enough nothing is going to change if all you do is cry on the forums without actually trying to do anything else
**Edit** just in case your reading skills fail as hard as your fit/skills apparently do ;)
Ranger 1 wrote:Famble wrote:LunarGlow wrote:The only thing i can do is break rock. And that gets borring fast.
I've tried missions. Got in a BS, fitted it proper. It just doesn't work. They do damage and i don't. Heck i'm doing 200-400 per salvo in the BS and in the BC i'd do about 400-500 all hits. Plus it's not cap stable and they just wear me out.
I haven't even been back for a week and i already canceled. People in help are worse that wow regarding elitism. There's just one fit for everything according to them. Well that fit doesn't work. And i'm not getting help in making another. They're not even pointing out why it doesn't work.
I don't want to spend my time mining. I did that and i wanted to try something else. If that's all there is in EvE for me well i'm going to lose interest real fast. I'll agree with you about the elitists, Eve has, by far the worst community of all MMO's ever created. That said, if you can't find an effective fit on BattleClinic for your L4's than you truly are doinitwrong. Click the "recommended fits only" button for even better setups. http://eve.battleclinic.com/browse_loadouts.phpCap stable is highly, highly overrated. It's a security blanket that us carebears won't give up until someone rips it out of our shaking fingers. You really, really don't need to be cap stable if it eats into your "gank". Use Eve-Survival to learn the triggers for each mission (read the player comments too for each mission report) and you'll rarely be overwhelmed. http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReportsLearn your effective ranges for your weapons and know that outside of that effective envelope you're DPS is going to drop, exponentially. Good luck. Also bear in mind that the weapons on a Battleship do not hit smaller targets very well, so if you are trying to blast the same frigates wtih BS weapons that you popped more easily in a Battle Cruiser, you need to use the right tool for the job (perhaps drones).
read that, if you don't understand ask for more information. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
565
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Posted - 2011.10.13 19:03:00 -
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LunarGlow wrote:
Forums beeing what they are you get the less than helpful..
What help, exactly, were you hoping for?
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.13 19:13:00 -
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Malcanis wrote: What help, exactly, were you hoping for?
Nothing i can actually get on these forums i guess?
Problem number one is me quitting. That's not going to solve anything. Problem number two is the fails causing me to quit. Completing a L4 would be a distant number 3.
Not, sympathy, more like recognition of the problem? Alternatives... Creative thinking about how to go about this situation. Something about my attitude about this problem needs to change and the flaming only puts me in a defensive position. Something human. I get all the robot part ingame.
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I think |
stoicfaux
282
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Posted - 2011.10.13 19:25:00 -
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LunarGlow wrote:Malcanis wrote: What help, exactly, were you hoping for?
Nothing i can actually get on these forums i guess? Problem number one is me quitting. That's not going to solve anything. Problem number two is the fails causing me to quit. Completing a L4 would be a distant number 3. Not, sympathy, more like recognition of the problem? Alternatives... Creative thinking about how to go about this situation. Something about my attitude about this problem needs to change and the flaming only puts me in a defensive position. Something human. I get all the robot part ingame. ... I think
Meh. Either you're a troll trying to play on people's desire to help, or you're simply too dense to meet us halfway by providing the information that people have repeatedly requested in order to help you out.
If it's the former, then 1/10 for posing as a helpless newbie. If it's the latter, then Eve isn't the game for you.
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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Ana Vyr
75
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Posted - 2011.10.13 19:28:00 -
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You really need the skills to make a battleship shine in PvE. Until I obtained sufficient skills, I ran level 4's in a BC, a Drake to be exact. It's a lot slower, but quite survivable. You can't really rush to the top in EvE, it just doesn't work that way. Losing a fitted BS is quite a setback early on as well in terms of ISK.
If you are a person that can only settle for running the most difficult content as fast as possible, I would recommend a different game than EvE, honestly. Either that, or find a good corp and run content with them. Try a different approach to the game than what you are doing today to avoid the frustration you appear to be feeling with the game. |
Leetha Layne
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.13 19:30:00 -
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Kitty McKitty wrote:Eve is not for lazy people that whine like babies.
QFT
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Cipher Jones
91
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Posted - 2011.10.13 19:32:00 -
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Start a topic in missions and complexes, ships and modules, or both.
Include your fit, and the NPC's you intend to kill. The specific mission is even better.
Ask politely. Do not mention Wow. Have Evefit and Evemon ready and loaded with your API. You will get help if you do this.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
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