Renters aren't the target. CCP is the target. Tech monopoly -> isk -> hoard PLEX -> use PLEX to artificially inflate the Eve sub count to 500k (via bots that emulate "real" players for the new accounts) -> CCP gets excited and starts spending that sub money -> Goons use the financial leverage of a hundred thousand astro-turfed "subs" to force CCP to do their bidding -> Goons win the internetz -> Goons retire from Eve to play MWO.

/disclaimer: I work for a major tabloid

our renters are so screwed guys

so screwed

GÇóMaking something tedious will not stop players doing it if it's very clearly the best option. They'll do it, and they'll hate it

The best way to hurt your enemy is to attack their income source. Renters are a good source of income to many alliances, so hitting the renters is the first natural step.

What enemys? pretty soon the highsec miners will start calling you carebears

You do know that Test is shooting us and we are shooting Test, also N3 isn't on friendly terms with us. A sieve has less holes in it than your argument.

its still funny, PL and goons say WE NOT GOING TO WAR BECAUSE OF SOV GRIND, PL then grinds Russia sov.

its still funny, PL and goons say WE NOT GOING TO WAR BECAUSE OF SOV GRIND, PL then grinds Russia sov.

You're conveniently forgetting that PL also have one of the largest supercapital fleets in the game, which makes grinding sov a lot less painful.
Sov still sucks, that part has not changed.

You do know that Test is shooting us and we are shooting Test, also N3 isn't on friendly terms with us. A sieve has less holes in it than your argument.

Welp guys the jig is up.

When test takes some of your tech moons then i might think your at war, until then yeah.

To be honest, they should have gotten the hint, when their welcome packet contained five gallons of anal lube.

The best way to hurt your enemy is to attack their income source. Renters are a good source of income to many alliances, so hitting the renters is the first natural step.

Except gewns/CFC income isn't from renters as they have none.

Goonwaffe is pretty much all miners.

how do i join?
who do i send my 500m to?

Welp guys the jig is up.

The point is, we don't mind sov grinding so much IF there are fights to go along with it.
All too often the defending force just gives up after about a week and all there's left to do is grind sov ad nauseum.

The point is, we don't mind sov grinding so much IF there are fights to go along with it.
All too often the defending force just gives up after about a week and all there's left to do is grind sov ad nauseum.

so you are saying that if the CFC was attacked you would just give up all of your sov or become HBC renters?


thanks for the info!

I for one welcome the great blue ring.

cyno jamers in every system

20 bubbles on every gate

2000 man defience fleets keep all the none blues out of null

none stop high sec ganking payed for by null sec



IT WILL BE GLORIOUS, i can just see it Oceans of high sec bear tears.

cyno jamers in every system

the fact that hiseccers believe that nullsec alliances massively augment their sov bills, to the tune of 600M per system per month, and run freighters to every system they own with the ihub upgrade required to enable cynojamming, which significantly disrupts line members' personal logistics, is another example - in a sea of examples - of why nobody, especially CCP, should ever consider the opinions of hiseccers in discussions regarding nullsec

Brain research tells us that only twenty percent of human beings have a sense of irony, which means that eighty percent of the world takes everything at face value.

you're trying to be clever, i get it, but there are plenty of people who think 0.0 is completely cynojammed

you're trying to be clever, i get it, but there are plenty of people who think 0.0 is completely cynojammed

thats funny you would think if you wanted fights who better to fight than the 2 largest blocks in the game killing each other.

...The vexors with sentry drones were just a sideshow.

I remember Delve war. We used Drakes, Drakes, Drakes, Drakes...

your all talking around the point, you have at best 6 months before there's no sov holing entity that's not ether a goon or PL pet.



then you have 2 options shoot each other, or play hello kitty nullsec we are all friends here!

option one you can play off as, waiting and gaining more people to your side.

option 2 proves your both unskilled scrubs who cant beat a alliance unless there smaller than you.

so, what will it be?


so far the blob has worked in your favor, but your running out of people smaller than you to blob.
but when the only people left on the map is CFC and HBC will you fight and have the MOST EPIC fights ever, or be the most disappointing thing to ever happen to eve?

Its a common known fact, PL and goons both said sov grinding was bad, then PL grinds solar sov.

Seeing as your running out of people to get GOODFITES out of, and the big blue ring is all most completed.

i have 100% faith instead of PL fightin goons they will start shooting renters, becouse goodfites.

renters you have been warned.

anime is cartoons

cartoons are for children

The point is, we don't mind sov grinding so much IF there are fights to go along with it.
All too often the defending force just gives up after about a week and all there's left to do is grind sov ad nauseum.

Seems to me this is the problem. Noone can put anything up against the big power blocks. So in the end they have to shoot each other.

This is what shadoo suggested to montolio. "Lets shoot goons but not the assets". And also what the delve "arena" was ment for suggested by mittens long ago.

So the CFC and HBC are just gay old friends that occasionally shoot each other because of boredom. But not assets, that's fobidden.

Welp guys the jig is up.

What if we reformed Mercenary Coalition or SYS-K? That should fix nullsec.

I will take up this mission.

You do know that Test is shooting us and we are shooting Test, also N3 isn't on friendly terms with us. A sieve has less holes in it than your argument.

nulli is isnt blue so n3 isnt blue aswell as goons solar and tbh a lot of the alliance, this donut thing is really a joke we created to make people who dont know **** act like they do. and its working with the ammount of people who post like they understand anything i n null

The point is, we don't mind sov grinding so much IF there are fights to go along with it.
All too often the defending force just gives up after about a week and all there's left to do is grind sov ad nauseum.

The Goonswarm Federation can be accused of a lot of things, but giving up after a week? Seriously, if you wish a 'fight' they would be the ones once they have 3x the numbers

PL cant do anything to goons without TEST, TEST cant do anything to anyone without PL. TEST & PL is a 50/50 shot at defeating goons ultimately, they would need an overwelming force like the DRF that purged the old northern coalition.


Now- there are those who have sense enough not to meddle in russian politics and those who do not.

Errmmm..

Goons and PL will NEVER fight???

http://cyn0.syn-dot.com/index.php/kill_detail/13611/

I think not.

words

posting in a thread about PL.

posting in a thread about PL.

End of the day PL is -A- Vote 1 for Maka CSM

Guys, I think we are doing the blue donut wrong...

Everyone is red to providence. :<




I just wanna be friends with you guize.

hey look, -a- dude is posting

how cute :allears:

God, I hate these ****** forums. That said, not much has changed. The blue lists are just getting longer and longer. Does anyone even plays this ****** game anymore for the fun of the game? I know I don't.

If there was only more ways to play this game than to sit in a station complaining about what everyone else does...

What if we reformed Mercenary Coalition or SYS-K? That should fix nullsec.

I will take up this mission.

God, I hate these ****** forums. That said, not much has changed. The blue lists are just getting longer and longer. Does anyone even plays this ****** game anymore for the fun of the game? I know I don't.