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Athena Maldoran
Special Nymphs On A Mission
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:33:00 -
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Onomerous wrote:Athena Maldoran wrote:This is a secret nerf hisec thread.. No, not secret and yes, they want to nerf hi-sec. The title gave it away.
But it so much more fun when its secret. Then all the little goonies come out and play.. |
Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations Shockwave Sovereign Industries
33
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:34:00 -
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Le Badass wrote:Primary Me wrote:There have been a couple of very good threads recently discussing the balance of industry between hisec and nullsec, with some excellent debate and copious amounts of data and examples supporting either side of the argument.
A factor or question that has come up a number of times, but then lost in the depths of economic arguments, is whether nullsec should be on par or better than hisec for industry, which, thinking about it, is a question that needs to be answered first, before discussing any balancing that might need to be done.
So here we go, should nullsec industry be the equal or better than hisec or is the open, risk free hisec industrial machine necessary to keep the forges of Eve burning? Is it simply risk v reward, or more complex than that?
Of course nullsec industry should be better than empire industry, because it totally makes sense that industry is better developed at the fringes of known civilization than in its core.
That's the most confusing part of the argument for null sec having better industry... |
Fearghaz Tiwas
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:36:00 -
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Here it goes. Why do people just assume this is about, ooh I want more people to shoot at. It really isn't that simple.
The point is this: If you are an industrial player in null, you are at massive disadvantage to anyone who stays in high.
Why would any industrial move to Null?
There should be a reason, but there isn't. I think this threads gone to the trolls. Shame as there are some people who actually attempt to rationalise arguments on both sides. Most of the people in here are just having a spaz |
baltec1
Bat Country
5492
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:36:00 -
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Athena Maldoran wrote:Onomerous wrote:Athena Maldoran wrote:This is a secret nerf hisec thread.. No, not secret and yes, they want to nerf hi-sec. The title gave it away. But it so much more fun when its secret. Then all the little goonies come out and play..
"Goonspiricies" |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3482
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:37:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Athena Maldoran wrote:Onomerous wrote:Athena Maldoran wrote:This is a secret nerf hisec thread.. No, not secret and yes, they want to nerf hi-sec. The title gave it away. But it so much more fun when its secret. Then all the little goonies come out and play.. "Conspiricies" Little? You clearly haven't seen daBIGredboat.
Well, he's not a "goonie" but he might as well be to the informed participants in GENERAL DISCUSSION. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Fearghaz Tiwas
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:37:00 -
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Onomerous wrote:Le Badass wrote:Primary Me wrote:There have been a couple of very good threads recently discussing the balance of industry between hisec and nullsec, with some excellent debate and copious amounts of data and examples supporting either side of the argument.
A factor or question that has come up a number of times, but then lost in the depths of economic arguments, is whether nullsec should be on par or better than hisec for industry, which, thinking about it, is a question that needs to be answered first, before discussing any balancing that might need to be done.
So here we go, should nullsec industry be the equal or better than hisec or is the open, risk free hisec industrial machine necessary to keep the forges of Eve burning? Is it simply risk v reward, or more complex than that?
Of course nullsec industry should be better than empire industry, because it totally makes sense that industry is better developed at the fringes of known civilization than in its core. That's the most confusing part of the argument for null sec having better industry...
Right, it isnt about moving all Industry to Null. Just making it worthwhile for those that do.
Its more profitable to PVE in Null, yet the majority do it in Hi sec. Why would this be different.
Also, not better, just not massively gimped |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1023
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:40:00 -
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From my time in 0.0 I remember a reason why a single cloaker can shut down a system: There is no combat backup anywhere in sight and you are usually alone in the system. All it'd need would be a small pvp gang in the system, ratting the belts or something while on standby, maybe a covops with probes out or even a bubble on warp in and bookmarks to warp off the belt.
All it'd need would be some people and preparations, but as one is alone with no backup, a cloaked sigil alt scouting the gate locks the whole system down. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13077
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:44:00 -
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Onomerous wrote:Le Badass wrote:Of course nullsec industry should be better than empire industry, because it totally makes sense that industry is better developed at the fringes of known civilization than in its core. That's the most confusing part of the argument for null sec having better industry... Yes, fallacies such as the one Le Badass just offered are confusing. It's not an actual argument for null having better industry, though.
The actual arguments for that pretty much all make sense, if you happen to know of them.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
492
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:56:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:From my time in 0.0 I remember a reason why a single cloaker can shut down a system: There is no combat backup anywhere in sight and you are usually alone in the system. All it'd need would be a small pvp gang in the system, ratting the belts or something while on standby, maybe a covops with probes out or even a bubble on warp in and bookmarks to warp off the belt.
All it'd need would be some people and preparations, but as one is alone with no backup, a cloaked sigil alt scouting the gate locks the whole system down.
From my time in 0.0, it is hard to get a PvP fleet to sit for hours and hours, or days, doing nothing but sitting in a belt. If they enjoyed that, they'd be miners, not PvPers.
If I pay them to guard me out of my mining income, then I'm making way less than I could have made in high sec.
Even if you have a PVP fleet, then the black ops fleet just brings enough to kill them too. The decision on when/if to fight is 100% the option of the black ops fleet with their AFK cloaky.
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Fearghaz Tiwas
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:58:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Abrazzar wrote:From my time in 0.0 I remember a reason why a single cloaker can shut down a system: There is no combat backup anywhere in sight and you are usually alone in the system. All it'd need would be a small pvp gang in the system, ratting the belts or something while on standby, maybe a covops with probes out or even a bubble on warp in and bookmarks to warp off the belt.
All it'd need would be some people and preparations, but as one is alone with no backup, a cloaked sigil alt scouting the gate locks the whole system down. From my time in 0.0, it is hard to get a PvP fleet to sit for hours and hours, or days, doing nothing but sitting in a belt. If they enjoyed that, they'd be miners, not PvPers. If I pay them to guard me out of my mining income, then I'm making way less than I could have made in high sec. Even if you have a PVP fleet, then the black ops fleet just brings enough to kill them too. The decision on when/if to fight is 100% the option of the black ops fleet with their AFK cloaky.
Further reason for why industry in Hi-sec should be taxed. You pay CONCORD and the factions for protection.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3482
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:02:00 -
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Fearghaz Tiwas wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:If I pay them to guard me out of my mining income, then I'm making way less than I could have made in high sec. Further reason for why industry in Hi-sec should be taxed. You pay CONCORD and the factions for protection. Further reason why you should stay in highsec. Easier, safer, more-profit-er, BETTER.
Higsec4lyfe Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
492
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:04:00 -
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Fearghaz Tiwas wrote:[ Further reason for why industry in Hi-sec should be taxed. You pay CONCORD and the factions for protection.
tax high sec, I can't fund my account with PLEX. Those like me, quit playing. CCP suffers massive revenue loss and likely goes bankrupt. EVE ceases to exist.
How does that make the game better? |
Fearghaz Tiwas
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:04:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Fearghaz Tiwas wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:If I pay them to guard me out of my mining income, then I'm making way less than I could have made in high sec. Further reason for why industry in Hi-sec should be taxed. You pay CONCORD and the factions for protection. Further reason why you should stay in highsec. Easier, safer, more-profit-er, BETTER. Higsec4lyfe
Haha. I'm not saying people shouldn't, just give people looking for more ways to make money effectively more options. TBF mate, your making my point for me again. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1024
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:08:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Abrazzar wrote:From my time in 0.0 I remember a reason why a single cloaker can shut down a system: There is no combat backup anywhere in sight and you are usually alone in the system. All it'd need would be a small pvp gang in the system, ratting the belts or something while on standby, maybe a covops with probes out or even a bubble on warp in and bookmarks to warp off the belt.
All it'd need would be some people and preparations, but as one is alone with no backup, a cloaked sigil alt scouting the gate locks the whole system down. From my time in 0.0, it is hard to get a PvP fleet to sit for hours and hours, or days, doing nothing but sitting in a belt. If they enjoyed that, they'd be miners, not PvPers. If I pay them to guard me out of my mining income, then I'm making way less than I could have made in high sec. Even if you have a PVP fleet, then the black ops fleet just brings enough to kill them too. The decision on when/if to fight is 100% the option of the black ops fleet with their AFK cloaky. Did you miss the part where I proposed that they were ratting and not sitting in your belt? That's how they can spend their time doing something they might need doing anyway and can support the local industrials.
Also you could offer them replacement ships (and implants) should a fight happen, so they can throw themselves against the invading forces, giving your industrials time to warp off. And you also just assume the blackops fleet will always have enough people and fire power available to blob you out.
With that mentality you should stay out of PvP anyway as with your point of view you'd always be blobbed out with no chance for survival, 100% guaranteed loss and no point in even trying.
You know, I start to suspect you're just trolling. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3483
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:08:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Fearghaz Tiwas wrote:Further reason for why industry in Hi-sec should be taxed. You pay CONCORD and the factions for protection. tax high sec, I can't fund my account with PLEX. Those like me, quit playing. CCP suffers massive revenue loss and likely goes bankrupt. EVE ceases to exist. How does that make the game better? Exactly, if you ever dare touch highsec (in a bad way) all the unsubs will kill EVE instantly !! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Fearghaz Tiwas
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:09:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Fearghaz Tiwas wrote:[ Further reason for why industry in Hi-sec should be taxed. You pay CONCORD and the factions for protection.
tax high sec, I can't fund my account with PLEX. Those like me, quit playing. CCP suffers massive revenue loss and likely goes bankrupt. EVE ceases to exist. How does that make the game better?
For a start, if your funding your account with PLEX, you aren't paying for it anyways. Second, I'm sure you make plenty and Third, to make you think about how to make money/where to sell your wares.
And for the gamewide benefits
More emergant gameplay. More diverse gameplay. More players in places that aren't Jita. Less load on Jita. More Market hubs. More profit for the little guy (+/-1 traders wont have the same hold as not everyone will just be using major hubs). That's just the effects on High sec.
Come at me brosef, your closed mindedness intimidates me little |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3483
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:09:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:And you also just assume the blackops fleet will always have enough people and fire power available to blob you out.
With that mentality you should stay out of PvP anyway as with your point of view you'd always be blobbed out with no chance for survival, 100% guaranteed loss and no point in even trying.
You know, I start to suspect you're just trolling. Nerf blobbing. No troll, bro. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4126
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:11:00 -
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Onomerous wrote:Le Badass wrote:Primary Me wrote:There have been a couple of very good threads recently discussing the balance of industry between hisec and nullsec, with some excellent debate and copious amounts of data and examples supporting either side of the argument.
A factor or question that has come up a number of times, but then lost in the depths of economic arguments, is whether nullsec should be on par or better than hisec for industry, which, thinking about it, is a question that needs to be answered first, before discussing any balancing that might need to be done.
So here we go, should nullsec industry be the equal or better than hisec or is the open, risk free hisec industrial machine necessary to keep the forges of Eve burning? Is it simply risk v reward, or more complex than that?
Of course nullsec industry should be better than empire industry, because it totally makes sense that industry is better developed at the fringes of known civilization than in its core. That's the most confusing part of the argument for null sec having better industry... It's only confusing because you've gotten it into your head that that's what nullsec represents, which doesn't actually match up to the reality of nullsec. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3483
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:13:00 -
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Fearghaz Tiwas wrote:For a start, if your funding your account with PLEX, you aren't paying for it anyways. Second, I'm sure you make plenty and Third, to make you think about how to make money/where to sell your wares. Yes, CCP got nothing for selling that plex.... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Fearghaz Tiwas
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:16:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Fearghaz Tiwas wrote:For a start, if your funding your account with PLEX, you aren't paying for it anyways. Second, I'm sure you make plenty and Third, to make you think about how to make money/where to sell your wares. Yes, CCP got nothing for selling that plex....
Just realised I misread what you said. Fail |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3483
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:22:00 -
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Fearghaz Tiwas wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Fearghaz Tiwas wrote:For a start, if your funding your account with PLEX, you aren't paying for it anyways. Second, I'm sure you make plenty and Third, to make you think about how to make money/where to sell your wares. Yes, CCP got nothing for selling that plex.... And there's nobody else going to buy it? Holding EVE to ransom over Hi sec is quite silly. Not so, it's been done since time immemorial, the great weapon that allows highsec to get ALL the buffs and stand firm Against ALL Nerfs. I am a nullsec zealot. |
Fearghaz Tiwas
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL Circle-Of-Two
7
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:26:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Fearghaz Tiwas wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Fearghaz Tiwas wrote:For a start, if your funding your account with PLEX, you aren't paying for it anyways. Second, I'm sure you make plenty and Third, to make you think about how to make money/where to sell your wares. Yes, CCP got nothing for selling that plex.... And there's nobody else going to buy it? Holding EVE to ransom over Hi sec is quite silly. Not so, it's been done since time immemorial, the great weapon that allows highsec to get ALL the buffs and stand firm Against ALL Nerfs.
Children act like children. Does't mean the behaviour is childish. |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
492
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:27:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Did you miss the part where I proposed that they were ratting and not sitting in your belt? That's how they can spend their time doing something they might need doing anyway and can support the local industrials.
Your 0.0 experience is a lot different from mine. No one rats when there is a cloaky neutral in system, because teh cyno he lights is just as likely to bring a black ops fleet to destroy your PVE ship as it is to blow up my mining fleet.
All industry and PVE shuts down when an AFK cloaky shows up.
Abrazzar wrote: Also you could offer them replacement ships (and implants) should a fight happen, so they can throw themselves against the invading forces, giving your industrials time to warp off. And you also just assume the blackops fleet will always have enough people and fire power available to blob you out.
Since they have all the intel they need, they have the power to ensure they only come when they have the firepower to win.
Abrazzar wrote: With that mentality you should stay out of PvP anyway as with your point of view you'd always be blobbed out with no chance for survival, 100% guaranteed loss and no point in even trying.
You know, I start to suspect you're just trolling.
Maybe you missed all my other posts where I say my number one goal in EVE is to not give other players kills? There is no profit in it. I'd rather lose 2 billion ISK by not undocking, then undock, mine 2 billion iSK and lose 200 million in ships. Why? Because that 200 million ship loss is not in a vacuume. That 200 million ISK loss brings more sharks looking for kills.
The ONLY defense to the griefing war dec, or the AFK cloaky, is to ensure they do NOT get what they want... kills. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3483
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:42:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Your 0.0 experience is a lot different from mine. No one rats when there is a cloaky neutral in system, because teh cyno he lights is just as likely to bring a black ops fleet to destroy your PVE ship as it is to blow up my mining fleet.
All industry and PVE shuts down when an AFK cloaky shows up. This is the way it should be. Without the ability for a handful of people to shut down an alliance's line-member isk making, blobs would rule the world.
LHA Tarawa wrote:Abrazzar wrote: And you also just assume the blackops fleet will always have enough people and fire power available to blob you out. Since they have all the intel they need, they have the power to ensure they only come when they have the firepower to win. Exactly. Plus, your ships are miners or else PVE fit ratters. You wouldn't be able to do much against a fleet prepared to kill you.
Also, trying to reimburse would totally make you better off with highsec's CONCORD protection.
LHA Tarawa wrote:Abrazzar wrote:With that mentality you should stay out of PvP anyway as with your point of view you'd always be blobbed out with no chance for survival, 100% guaranteed loss and no point in even trying.
You know, I start to suspect you're just trolling. Maybe you missed all my other posts where I say my number one goal in EVE is to not give other players kills? There is no profit in it. I'd rather lose 2 billion ISK by not undocking, then undock, mine 2 billion iSK and lose 200 million in ships. Why? Because that 200 million ship loss is not in a vacuume. That 200 million ISK loss brings more sharks looking for kills. The ONLY defense to the griefing war dec, or the AFK cloaky, is to ensure they do NOT get what they want... kills. Exactly, you're trolling the "PVP"ers who just want easy kills. Stay docked or in that POS. I am a nullsec zealot. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7974
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:42:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:Malcanis wrote: Pure hyperbole and rhetoric. You are a funny man...really. There was never a problem with high sec industry until the last 12 months or so, once null sec had figured they had industrialized null sec profitability to a fine art. Then they started casting their eyes at other parts of the game, and started the propaganda campaign "high sec rich, null sec poor, nerf high sec". Tell me, how many members in the CFC or HBC, or the Russian null sec groups have an alt in a supercap? Then tell me how many members of high sec can afford a supercap if they sold everything they have? Oh right, you can't since CCP has placed an embargo on detailed economic data. You know, you might have some credibility if you were screaming from the mountaintops demanding CCP release tons of economic data about the income levels in all aspects of he game, in order to do some actual analysis about what people are actually making, so real fact based proposals could be made. But no, you and the rest of the null sec cabal just utilize a huge propaganda campaign to try to convince forum readers that rhetoric is actual fact. Not long ago I remember some guys in the states using this methodology to invade a country, bomb it back to the stone age, and plunder its oil. You guys are not dumb, that is for sure. You see what political methods work, and wield them with great aplomb.
I see you're afraid to address the things I actually said, preferring instead to imagine things I said and yell about them.
You are so hilariously mistaken about my motivations and goals that it's hard for me to take you seriously. Your posts read like something from one of those automatic rant generators that used to infest the internet a few years ago. I wish I could persuade you of what I'd really like to accomplish, but since the only tools I have are facts, evidence, reason and the truth, I stand no chance at all.
I wish you all the best and I look forward to reading in a year or so your angry, fearful, consipracy-laden explaination of how it is that I have mysteriously failed to eradicate hi-sec.
Meanwhile I suggest going out into the fresh air and maybe spending some time with friends. You're sure not enjoying yourself looking at the monitor. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3483
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:46:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:You are so hilariously mistaken about my motivations and goals that it's hard for me to take you seriously. Your posts read like something from one of those automatic rant generators that used to infest the internet a few years ago. I wish I could persuade you of what I'd really like to accomplish, but since the only tools I have are facts, evidence, reason and the truth, I stand no chance at all.
I wish you all the best and I look forward to reading in a year or so your angry, fearful, consipracy-laden explaination of how it is that I have mysteriously failed to eradicate hi-sec.
Meanwhile I suggest going out into the fresh air and maybe spending some time with friends. You're sure not enjoying yourself looking at the monitor. Maybe it is a new bot that generates rants for you.
Also, what do you mean, we are going to eradicate highsec - at least until CCP steps in with NPCs and game mechanics to stop us.
I am enjoying myself, please don't stop him from posting. I am a nullsec zealot. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7974
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:49:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Malcanis wrote:You are so hilariously mistaken about my motivations and goals that it's hard for me to take you seriously. Your posts read like something from one of those automatic rant generators that used to infest the internet a few years ago. I wish I could persuade you of what I'd really like to accomplish, but since the only tools I have are facts, evidence, reason and the truth, I stand no chance at all.
I wish you all the best and I look forward to reading in a year or so your angry, fearful, consipracy-laden explaination of how it is that I have mysteriously failed to eradicate hi-sec.
Meanwhile I suggest going out into the fresh air and maybe spending some time with friends. You're sure not enjoying yourself looking at the monitor. Maybe it is a new bot that generates rants for you. Also, what do you mean, we are going to eradicate highsec - at least until CCP steps in with NPCs and game mechanics to stop us. I am enjoying myself, please don't stop him from posting.
I respect that he cares passionately about the game. I just wish the energy he puts into defending it wasn't so badly misdirected.
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4126
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:57:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:Tell me, how many members in the CFC or HBC, or the Russian null sec groups have an alt in a supercap? Sure as hell not me or most people I know. If we all had the isk to put ourselves in supercaps we wouldn't have a problem with people ratting when they're supposed to be deployed. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3483
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Posted - 2013.03.05 18:00:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Vince Snetterton wrote:Tell me, how many members in the CFC or HBC, or the Russian null sec groups have an alt in a supercap? Sure as hell not me or most people I know. If we all had the isk to put ourselves in supercaps we wouldn't have a problem with people ratting when they're supposed to be deployed. But people ratted with titans, so...
I am a nullsec zealot. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3904
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Posted - 2013.03.05 18:47:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:equal ..
the belief that nulsec should be more than hisec is based on a flawed premise.
You consider the premise that what players work hard, risk plenty, and spend a lot to build should be superior to what's handed to them at virtually no cost, no risk, and no effort in the safest area of the game? Yeah, totally flawed.
What's flawed is the belief that sov null sec deserves best reward when NPC null sec and low sec are where the highest risk is.
Low sec and NPC null sec should be the place for the highest rewards, not sov null sec. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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