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Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point I Know Right
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Posted - 2013.03.07 20:17:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:It's a shame CCP won't do anything about the statistically proven botters that spam Jita local. Alot of them are real players also. Yes there are some bots but theres alot that if you try to talk to in private they actually will talk to you "I swear there are more people complaining over "nullsecers complaining" then actual nullsec people complaining." |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1860
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Posted - 2013.03.07 20:27:00 -
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Hi Guys,
I'm sorry but until CCP make an official statement on this, this comes under the auspices of forum rule 31:
Forum rules wrote: Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the wellbeing and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.
Sorry - I will unlock this if they make such a statement. ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
2727
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Posted - 2013.03.07 21:26:00 -
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We will not state what changes were made but yes there were changes made targeting specific malicious actors who are aware of the fact that they were targeted and have made some early attempts at guessing how they were targeted on their forums which is where this information seems to be sourced from. We don't have any further comment on the topic at this time but it can stay open for discussion as it's based in fact. "Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1860
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Posted - 2013.03.07 21:48:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:We will not state what changes were made but yes there were changes made targeting specific malicious actors who are aware of the fact that they were targeted and have made some early attempts at guessing how they were targeted on their forums which is where this information seems to be sourced from. We don't have any further comment on the topic at this time but it can stay open for discussion as it's based in fact.
Thanks for clearing that up, and making this official ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1042
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Posted - 2013.03.07 21:52:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:We will not state what changes were made but yes there were changes made targeting specific malicious actors who are aware of the fact that they were targeted and have made some early attempts at guessing how they were targeted on their forums which is where this information seems to be sourced from. We don't have any further comment on the topic at this time but it can stay open for discussion as it's based in fact. This sounds eerily like a statement you'd get from military officials. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
301
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:00:00 -
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Death to the Bots! Keep up the good work CCP! Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
Jada Maroo
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
1040
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:13:00 -
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I use a private overseas proxy that issues me IP addresses traceable to a selection of countries other than my own. I have, at times, forgotten to disable it when logging into Eve after... acquiring a movie. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.
As long as CCP doesn't take suspicious IP behavior and dubious proxy programs in general as a sign of players doing something wrong, I don't mind. |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1860
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:13:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote: This sounds eerily like a statement you'd get from military officials.
I think we can all appreciate at this time, that CCP do not want to give any clues as to what/how/why they did this.
I, for one, appreciate my less botty EVE.
CCP Sreegs, best Sreegs.
ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Blubberlutsch
Mtech Heavy Industries Waterboard
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:13:00 -
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Dark Reignz wrote:baltec1 wrote:Dark Reignz wrote:
So yea, proof or it didn't happen.
The botting forums have exploded with rage. Aslo the producers of said tools have pulled them. You would know this if you simply read the linked article. I dont need to read forums or w/e where casual botters go nuts. Here's my post in layman's terms Player A create 2 accounts to bot (maybe not to rmt, maybe just for casual income while being lazy) Player B creates 20 accounts to bot (or enough to fill a corp!) Player A is the one going to be banned every time because he represents a tiny fraction of revenue and is a negligible loss, where as Player B generates a considerable amount of revenue for the game company and is thus an asset and not something you take action against unless you are 200% committed to Botting and RMT removal at any cost. I'm yet to see any game company that is 200% committed to removing ALL botters (or rmters in general).
You can only be comitted 100% to something, everything over 100% is just stupid.
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1056
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:14:00 -
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If all the 'alleged' botters are banned, will I be the only player left? This is not a signature. |
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Whitehound
1157
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:19:00 -
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All hail King Sreegs!! Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
337
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:22:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:All hail King Sreegs!!
Hail to the King Baby!!
- rejoices at getting to use a duke nukem quote to actually mean something :) - Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome |
Angelique Duchemin
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
164
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:23:00 -
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Acac Sunflyier wrote:So it scans your computer for bots? Like does it check your hard drive or just the client's integrity when running? Reason I ask is cause I do enjoy privacy. I wont' download origin and I'd hate for Eve to become Origin
It's more common than you think. It scans for applications that run in the background in search for suspicious ones while you play the game.
World of Warcraft does the same and so does VAC.
The Battle of Wizna. Like the movie 300 but with worse odds and the Germans as the attackers. |
Tubrug1
West Indies Squadron
135
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:26:00 -
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Huzzah! A vote for James 315 is a vote for a better Highsec, a better lowsec and a better Eve. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1672
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:29:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Acac Sunflyier wrote:So it scans your computer for bots? Like does it check your hard drive or just the client's integrity when running? Reason I ask is cause I do enjoy privacy. I wont' download origin and I'd hate for Eve to become Origin It's more common than you think. It scans for applications that run in the background in search for suspicious ones while you play the game. World of Warcraft does the same and so does VAC. Awhile ago just after CCP Sreegs started at CCP he said that he would not do that. He said he was concerned with the security of the client. Meaning the client gets scanned to insure its not being modified in any way. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
502
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:36:00 -
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Muha... CCP 2 - Botters 0
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Stray Bullets
Perkone Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:41:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:We will not state what changes were made but yes there were changes made targeting specific malicious actors who are aware of the fact that they were targeted and have made some early attempts at guessing how they were targeted on their forums which is where this information seems to be sourced from. We don't have any further comment on the topic at this time but it can stay open for discussion as it's based in fact.
Awesome work mate! Even though it's your job, I'd like to thank you for the effort put into this. Every single botter down counts.
I know it works best with the surprise effect, but is there any way to put in your behaviour analysis tool into the guys spamming Jita local every 5 secs? Shouldn't be too hard to find those patterns! :)
Anyway, thanks again. |
Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
807
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:42:00 -
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Yo Sreegs: Jita please and thank you.
I know you can see this. Reading the EVEO forums is like huffing gas or sniffing glue. Sure it's funny and you get high, but you pay a terrible, terrible price in the long run. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2491
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:53:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:We will not state what changes were made but yes there were changes made targeting specific malicious actors who are aware of the fact that they were targeted and have made some early attempts at guessing how they were targeted on their forums which is where this information seems to be sourced from. We don't have any further comment on the topic at this time but it can stay open for discussion as it's based in fact.
Because of Drone? |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
653
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:56:00 -
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Good job Security team !!
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
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Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
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Posted - 2013.03.07 23:07:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Quick, everyone check Dotlan for EVE University membership stats!
Wouldn't they remain the same? I didn't think banned accounts had their characters ejected from corporations they were in? |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
9
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Posted - 2013.03.07 23:08:00 -
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Nice. Good stuff |
Arec Bardwin
915
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Posted - 2013.03.07 23:12:00 -
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Well done. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4183
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Posted - 2013.03.07 23:32:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:We will not state what changes were made but yes there were changes made targeting specific malicious actors who are aware of the fact that they were targeted and have made some early attempts at guessing how they were targeted on their forums which is where this information seems to be sourced from. We don't have any further comment on the topic at this time but it can stay open for discussion as it's based in fact. This sounds eerily like a statement you'd get from military officials. Well frankly what he's doing is kind of like an arms race, when you really think about it.
Arronicus wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Quick, everyone check Dotlan for EVE University membership stats! Wouldn't they remain the same? I didn't think banned accounts had their characters ejected from corporations they were in? Probably, but I wasn't sure how to incorporate that into my post without completely ruining the joke. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
9
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Posted - 2013.03.07 23:35:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Abrazzar wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:We will not state what changes were made but yes there were changes made targeting specific malicious actors who are aware of the fact that they were targeted and have made some early attempts at guessing how they were targeted on their forums which is where this information seems to be sourced from. We don't have any further comment on the topic at this time but it can stay open for discussion as it's based in fact. This sounds eerily like a statement you'd get from military officials. Well frankly what he's doing is kind of like an arms race, when you really think about it. Arronicus wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Quick, everyone check Dotlan for EVE University membership stats! Wouldn't they remain the same? I didn't think banned accounts had their characters ejected from corporations they were in? Probably, but I wasn't sure how to incorporate that into my post without completely ruining the joke.
Indeed. Pretty much exactly like what happens in the anti-virus industry as well. |
Mark Munoz
Schwarzschild Casimir Collective STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2013.03.07 23:41:00 -
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I appreciate this effort from CCP more than any other effort. Nothing better than playing everyone on even playing fields. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4184
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Posted - 2013.03.07 23:42:00 -
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Mark Munoz wrote:I appreciate this effort from CCP more than any other effort. Nothing better than playing everyone on even playing fields. Yep. Can't wait until they apply this principle to game mechanics themselves. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
Juniorama
State War Academy Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:16:00 -
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When can we expect CCP to free the people being forced to farm isk by bots? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3527
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:22:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Mark Munoz wrote:I appreciate this effort from CCP more than any other effort. Nothing better than playing everyone on even playing fields. Yep. Can't wait until they apply this principle to game mechanics themselves. No, highsec must be the best, I am a nullsec zealot. |
Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
12
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:49:00 -
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For everyone mentioning the Jita spam bots, I'd recommend putting pressure on the candidates running for CSM8. Chribba's been trying but can't do this alone. They are not too hard to spot using Chribba's web site, Eve Live. There was a discussion on Twitter and sounds like this falls more in the realm of Customer Service than Security. But I don't think anyone really cares who does the work as long as someone starts to clean up the mess.
It really sounds like this needs to be addressed by CSM and then they can use their famous direct line Skype channel to bug the devs until they get tired of listening. Now we just need to vote for people who will carry through with this.
The Nosy Gamer - Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength - Eric Hoffer |
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