projection issue as well as the damage issue

I liked my Phoon with four plates and over 1k DPS from three different sources. I took pride when I could finally fly the thing-- but in the end, when was the last time I actually flew the thing?!?

Minmatar is still there in it's variety. Armor and shield. Missiles and projectiles. Utility high slots. A ship's role will be more obvious is all.

You're on your own on this one mate.
Cant wait for a useable naglfar.

The old tristan used to be a decent split frig blasters and rockets.

As a mostly Minmatar and gallente pilot for roleplay reasons i hate using caldari weapons on my ships get rid of them please Minmatar should just be dirty oily projectiles.

Split weapon ships offered some really dynamic fits that could be really fun, interesting, and unexpected. That allowed you to surprise your opponent and try to catch people off guard.

Wait, what?

Split weapon ships only have one option. The most versatility is the Phoon which can choose between 5 torps 3 autos, 4/4, or 3/5. In what way is this going to catch anyone off guard?

How are missiles a "caldari" weapon? They use them on a lot of their ships, but they also get dronebays and hybrid weapons. Gallente also have T2 ships that have missile bonuses, as do amarr (the gallente ones need a buff though... and its actually only the lachesis left with the terrible bonus, it needs to be increased).

Because missiles ARE a caldari weapon system. This is the the way it works...

Caldari weapon systems are comprised of 2 different elements, missiles and hybrid rails, focused more on missiles.
The gallente have drones and blaster hybrids, pretty evenly balanced use of the 2
Ammar have lasers, drones and rockets, with much more focus on lasers than the other 2
Aaaand then you have the minnies, whose weapons are based on projectiles, running away and being pansies

Can someone please explain to me why they hate split weapons ASIDE from the fact they sucked (I know they sucked, but that's because their bonuses sucked, not because the idea of split weapons suck).

The idea of split weapons blazing away on a target is neat, but the reality is that it's just terrible in this game because weapon mods/rigs are weapon type specific. You end up with a ship that does comparatively bad dps with similar fits, and they're relegated to niche rolls by completely ignoring the ability to fit split weapons.

I tried to design a Loki that used the hardpoint efficiency module, but even with the ability to mount 7 weapon systems it could barely get in the same ballpark as other strategic cruisers with 6 weapon mounts but had to be in facecheck range to apply it. The idea of assault missiles and autocannons blasting away was neat though.

The idea of split weapons blazing away on a target is neat, but the reality is that it's just terrible in this game because weapon mods/rigs are weapon type specific. You end up with a ship that does comparatively bad dps with similar fits, and they're relegated to niche rolls by completely ignoring the ability to fit split weapons.

From a purely lore and role play perspective, missiles ARE the Caldari weapon system for reasons including, but not limited to the following;

"Of the meticulous craftsmanship the Caldari are renowned for, the Drake was born. It was found beneath such a ship to rely on anything other than the time-honored combat tradition of missile fire..."

The meticulous craftsmanship and time-honored traditions of the Caldari point towards missiles. I hear in a time long ago that missiles did full damage to all targets (no explosion radius or velocity stat) and that Ravens vaporized everything.

Then again, you have things like the outdated Evelopedia with entries on the "Piranha Light Missile," now called the Nova Light Missile, with the following description; "The Piranha is a tiny nuclear missile based on a classic Minmatar design that has been in use since the early days of the Minmatar Resistance."

Game mechanics don't necessarily agree with game lore however, and many none Caldari ships are bonused for missiles. It's completely reasonable to call missiles the Caldari weapon system, though.

The (first) quoted sentance states that Caldari have a long tradition of using missiles and that is often the weapon of choice in Caldari ship design. It does not imply that Caldari is the only race/nation with such traditions or preferences.

"In addition to robust electronics systems, the Khanid Kingdom's ships possess advanced armor alloys capable of withstanding a great deal of punishment. Generally eschewing the use of turrets, they tend to gear their vessels more towards close-range missile combat." - Damnation description

The Khanid Kingdom also has a tradition, or at least preference, to gear for missiles.

Of all the four weapon types, missiles is the most universal one, which makes sense considering it's the one that stands out.

/JK

I never said it implied anything. I said it's a reasonable expectation, at the very least from a lore perspective, to associate missiles with Caldari. You said 'it does not imply...' (which is sort of an implication anyway.) If anything, it implies the opposite, that missiles are the only weapons used by the Caldari, considering the Caldari view hybrids as 'beneath' their finest ships.

Again, this is from a lore perspective. Our posts don't contradict each other.

The old tristan used to be a decent split frig blasters and rockets.

Beneath their finest ships? Merlin and naga are my only replies

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The occasional "SURPRISE!" is well worth the (on average) loss of efficiency.