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Kainoss
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Posted - 2005.08.19 22:17:00 -
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EVE has certainly had its fair share of giant wars and sweeping political drama. It's what makes this game really worth playing, IMO.
But things have been on the quiet front for a while. I'm very disappointed. Sure we have the BoB invasion of Fountain, and [5]'s domineering of most of the South. But where are the emotionally/morally charged calls for all of EVE to head to war?
I want to see another Great Northern War. I want to see another Eve vs. Curse. I was hoping the recent Xelas vs. PA thing would lead into something huge. A Great Northern War part 2... Turns out it was dud. =(
Personally I think the next great conflict lies with BoB and [5]. Both have been swallowing up quite a bit of territory, and I think eventually it'll come at a crossroads, or perhaps there'll be a revolt against these two super powers by most of the alliances.
So here's looking forward to another great war!
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.19 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: SengH on 19/08/2005 22:26:34 The carebears strike back... Empire vs everyone in 0.0.
especially if they implement this
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Factional Warfare
Enlist as a soldier for one of the warring factions, destroy some the other factions, conquer their systems and stuff like that. Should gain Rank, get Medals & Awards, easier access to military stuff. Grand Admiral Oveur of the 7th Caldari Expeditionary Fleet does have a nice ring to it I must admit ...
If empires start sending people out into 0.0 to attack the alliances. Things would get VERY interesting. Especially if you saw something like the minmatar republic attempting to annex curse.
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Xrak
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Posted - 2005.08.19 22:25:00 -
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/me claps
Nice post. Just hope the people can resist flaming it.
Bah who am I kidding?
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Drakos
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Posted - 2005.08.19 22:31:00 -
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what you will see is the Great CCP Lag War, if something big happens.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.19 22:40:00 -
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Eventually someone in the south is going to decide to break all their NAPs and just start shooting everyone, and everything will go to hell -- Proud member of the [23].
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.08.19 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Drakos what you will see is the Great CCP Lag War, if something big happens.
Yea, we have seen this on the current BoB/Imp/G conflict. I'd love to see some really big fleet actions again, but as it stands its barely possible.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.08.19 22:58:00 -
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reason why north vs south hasnt begun?
because of lag.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.19 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Eventually someone in the south is going to decide to break all their NAPs and just start shooting everyone, and everything will go to hell
yeah somehow I find this preferable :P
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.08.19 23:10:00 -
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Don't expect any large fleet battles till the lag is fixed. And South vs. the North has already started to come around the corner. In all likely hood the north will get hit from Geminate (5 and V) and OR (BoB) and everyone will go north from there. Its what I would do,waging war by coordinating offensives is an effective tool rarely if ever seen on the global scale in eve. Tactics is not just on one battlefield but in the very choice in waging war.
Wars shouldn't be waged if you can't gain anything.
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Crean NaVar
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Posted - 2005.08.19 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard And South vs. the North has already started to come around the corner. In all likely hood the north will get hit from Geminate (5 and V) and OR (BoB) and everyone will go north from there.
Objection! Speculation.
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Angelhunter
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Posted - 2005.08.20 00:29:00 -
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The Next great Conflict has already started, if you can't see it you are blind. --------------- |
Recscue
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Posted - 2005.08.20 00:36:00 -
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South v. North has already begun. Months ago frigate fleets from the north and south have struck at each other but things as of late are escalating with BoB's focus now on Imperium and the rest of the north.
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2005.08.20 00:42:00 -
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I think it's started already. Looks to me like Bob plans to try a sweep of the north. As for the southern alliances. Someone will break a NAP and go berserk and it'll be interesting. Some of the Southern alliances are pvp powerhouses and some are along for the ride. It'll be interesting when a weaker alliance is no longer needed by it's bigger buddies and gets a good kicking.
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2005.08.20 00:57:00 -
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The next great conflict will be in the South when BOB starts to realice what ATUK is growing into. The advance BOB is hoping to make up North will be stopped in 4c-b where we will hold the line. This will slow BOB. Atuk will use this time to grow fat on refining fees, POSSES and plain isk. The root for the war between BOB and Atuk lies in the greed Atuk is starting to display. The mentality of BOB is different, at least I feel and sence it is. We allready see Bob boosting numbers to keep up with Atuk. In this light I would like to say to Bob that bigger often doesn't mean better. Intresting times ahead.
-G-
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.08.20 01:04:00 -
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BOB vs 5 whould be nice to see, but i wanna know who their allies will join?.
This is what i think wil happen. ASCN will go for 5 so will -V-. FIX will go with BOB. Stain Empire will prolly be neutral.
no flames intended
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.08.20 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: Jonkai on 20/08/2005 01:12:22 From a personal opinion, the naps make sense to those involved. Take BoB and 5 for an example, if they hadn't napped most alliances and corps in the area that they are working in then they wouldn't have been as successful. All in all fair enough to them.
This though, leads to a rather dull time for all parties involved, unless of course they are the players involved in destroying the current target.
So then, with them owning or claiming to own most of 0.0, what does it leave for them? To keep it to themselves and become ultra rich, and what would they spend the money on? More dreads... why? Why bother? To protect their space? And why do that when they have no targets?
All the wannabe's join the current winning corps/alliances, as is in every game that you play. So where does that leave the two 'alledgedly' main corps in 0.0?
Leave EVE knowing that you've won? But no one will remember you, it's a game. So then those people love EVE so no doubt they'll stay...
Un nap 1 at a time and kill them or will BoB and 5 kill each other. I know what would be the most enjoyable to watch videos off... but I can not see either side wanting to lose :)
Don't hate me for speaking the truth! You know it makes sense.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.20 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jonkai Edited by: Jonkai on 20/08/2005 01:12:22 From a personal opinion, the naps make sense to those involved. Take BoB and 5 for an example, if they hadn't napped most alliances and corps in the area that they are working in then they wouldn't have been as successful. All in all fair enough to them.
This though, leads to a rather dull time for all parties involved, unless of course they are the players involved in destroying the current target.
So then, with them owning or claiming to own most of 0.0, what does it leave for them? To keep it to themselves and become ultra rich, and what would they spend the money on? More dreads... why? Why bother? To protect their space? And why do that when they have no targets?
All the wannabe's join the current winning corps/alliances, as is in every game that you play. So where does that leave the two 'alledgedly' main corps in 0.0?
Leave EVE knowing that you've won? But no one will remember you, it's a game. So then those people love EVE so no doubt they'll stay...
Un nap 1 at a time and kill them or will BoB and 5 kill each other. I know what would be the most enjoyable to watch videos off... but I can not see either side wanting to lose :)
TBH if it gets to that stage which I highly doubt... CCP will step in. They did so with m00 and zombiecorp. They probably wont ban all the alliance players, but they might make the empires wardec us and ban us from empire O.o.
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.08.20 03:04:00 -
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the only next fair / viable war is bob v 5. but they both like their naps so much they may sleep through it.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.08.20 03:35:00 -
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This game is war driven, no war = no commercy.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.20 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade This game is war driven, no war = no commercy.
Even if there's no major wars, people will still shoot each other.
It seems one by one alliances are declaring NBSIs, either region-wide or EVE-wide. If there is no major war, people will just run around ganking all non-NAPed alliances -- Proud member of the [23].
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.08.20 06:46:00 -
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Eve is BIG look at the map see how any alliance there is claiming space. theres a reason for that, eve is so big that even if 5 and BoB kill all other alliance, it would be imposibel to control all 0.0 space whit 2 alliance..... as we kill old alliance or bob does new will rise new players will try ther luck in 0.0.
sure we can put in sponsored corps here and there but we al know when time goes on some of those gets either greddy or just dont wanna be a "pet" anymore, and a new war starts....
as of the next big conflict i am not sure but i think the BOB vs GIMP and friend might be a good and long war
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Deep Throat
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Posted - 2005.08.20 07:17:00 -
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Eve sucks now tbh. its all a bunch of ganking on top of ganking. partly i think its due to the way gangs are formed. nobody dares go anywhere on big ships unless in very large gang or all wcs fitted due to the (extremely overpowered) frigs and the frig gangs.
if a group is spotted in some area the group that claims/controlles that area will show up with 3 times the nubmers or stay docked/logged off if they cant
this on top of 2 major powers literally napping or killing everything around them, 5 and bob. nobody really dares contest these 2, and i think the reason is 1) they have numbers that few can match and 2) if u try to contest the numbers by bringing in firepower u will find yourself in the t2 area(nerf needed asap) where bs will get blown up in 5 secs by concentrated fire by no more than say 5 bs.
ppl dont dare go anywhere cept in larger than large gangs. the few that can match it prop dont want to put up the trouble so they show up in frigs.
put all this together and u got the current situation. boredome.
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Band Zior
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Posted - 2005.08.20 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Deep Throat Eve sucks now tbh. its all a bunch of ganking on top of ganking. partly i think its due to the way gangs are formed. nobody dares go anywhere on big ships unless in very large gang or all wcs fitted due to the (extremely overpowered) frigs and the frig gangs.
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Yolan
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Posted - 2005.08.20 07:44:00 -
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Edited by: Yolan on 20/08/2005 07:46:04
Originally by: Deep Throat Eve sucks now tbh. its all a bunch of ganking on top of ganking. partly i think its due to the way gangs are formed. nobody dares go anywhere on big ships unless in very large gang or all wcs fitted due to the (extremely overpowered) frigs and the frig gangs.
Absolutely spot on. Now I dont think bships should be able to take out large gangs of frigs solo but I do think it should be able to take some of em out before it goes down, however since the FoF cruise nerf a bship is totally fkd. Most good frig gangs run at least one sensor dampner on each frig which makes even a bship fitted with small turrets and heavy noss useless. I dont know what the answer is but a battleship should have at least some reasonable point defence system, even if players have to sacrifice high slots to fit it. And nobody sugggest smartbombs because any frig pilot worth anything stays outside smart bomb range.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.20 07:47:00 -
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what I don't get is why ccp can't get our 0.0 systems to run while system like Niyabianian with 90+ missions *****s running around 24/7 with little to no problems. just tihnk of all those rats spawed for each mission
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.08.20 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: Crean NaVar
Originally by: Lucian Alucard And South vs. the North has already started to come around the corner. In all likely hood the north will get hit from Geminate (5 and V) and OR (BoB) and everyone will go north from there.
Objection! Speculation.
Well its exactly that speculation but thats what topics like this are all about. But if you think on it its a logical game plan,it spreads the norths forces thin and puts pressure on everyone across the board. No one person can be in the same palce at once so if you press from those regions and then gain control you can eventually crush the northerners.
If you have alliances use them for all they are worth. And go for the throat.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.08.20 08:21:00 -
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The reason there's no North vs South war:
Nobody can be arsed to do 100 jumps.
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Avatar Ashlee
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Posted - 2005.08.20 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert The reason there's no North vs South war:
Nobody can be arsed to do 100 jumps.
With freighters, its very easy to open northen bases. Just fly ships to say- torrinos, haul to agil, or vice versa. afk it even
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.08.20 09:56:00 -
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There's alot more happening in the underworld of EVE than hits the boards :P
To me Geminate and Outer Ring sounds like a perfect staging area for an assault on the north from each side - I wonder if the northeren corps can fight two fronts?
Btw. - I think you'll see some of the alliances north start shaking their pants and try to NAP the south ....
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Crean NaVar
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Posted - 2005.08.20 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard
Originally by: Crean NaVar
Originally by: Lucian Alucard And South vs. the North has already started to come around the corner. In all likely hood the north will get hit from Geminate (5 and V) and OR (BoB) and everyone will go north from there.
Objection! Speculation.
Well its exactly that speculation but thats what topics like this are all about. But if you think on it its a logical game plan,it spreads the norths forces thin and puts pressure on everyone across the board. No one person can be in the same palce at once so if you press from those regions and then gain control you can eventually crush the northerners.
If you have alliances use them for all they are worth. And go for the throat.
I don¦t doubt that what you describe is the masterplan of [5] and BoB. And i know for sure it has already started, as i¦m stationed in Outer Ring atm. My comment was meant to question the highlighted part of your statement: "...and everyone will go north from there", because it implys the assumption that the southern forces can¦t be stopped and and the outcome of this war is already decided. It¦s not. There¦s a long way to go for both sides. And tbh i would like to back up the words of my dear corp and alliance mate SaorAlba and say the march of BoB will get stopped right now in 4c-b7x, which could ruin some of the big plans.
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