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Seriphyn Inhonores
Destiny Foundation
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:37:00 -
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It appears you are not familiar with how the Federation political system is structured, M Perhi. The concept of 'Federation borders' understood in the modern sense is defined by CONCORD; otherwise, Federation territory is defined by its member states. While we will not be a member state of the Federated Union, the land purchased for D'estinia will be identified to higher authorites as private property belonging to the Destiny Foundation (in turn, a registered private foundation). Whether or not they recognize our sovereignty, as the Federation does with its member states, is currently not known.
D'estinia as a corporate republic pertains to the fact that all property and services will be owned by the Destiny Foundation, as the ruling authority. We otherwise function on a direct democratic system, as outlined in the release.
In regards to your other point, I cannot comment on the divinity of myself, my daughter, or any other member of the Inhonores family, as much as I would like to. |
Ava Starfire
Gradient Electus Matari
763
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Posted - 2013.03.16 23:03:00 -
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While I may not always agree with Mr. Inhonores, I do hope this venture enjoys only success.
Bringing peace and prosperity to those who most need those things is to be commended. |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Destiny Foundation
459
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Posted - 2013.04.09 01:55:00 -
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Here are some updates:
1) Following negative feedback and constructive criticism regarding the chosen name of D'estinia amongst Destiny Foundation's GalNet community, the Board of Directors and Provisional Government have reached a joint decision to instead adopt the name of Elusenia. This is derived from the word elusen in a Gallentean planetary language. Initial reactions from the online DES-F community are so far positive.
2) Building on the above, the Serenissima Respublico of Elusenia is proud to reveal its national flag, depicting the goddesses Eleimosyni and Elpida. The usage of religious symbolism is purely aesthetic, and has no bearing on Elusenia's strictly secular constitution.
3) Anette Inhonores has formally rejected any aristocrat or noble titles to be bestowed upon her in recognition of her status as patroness of Elusenia. Therefore, Anette Inhonores will not hold any formally recognized position within Elusenia, but will nonetheless hold an unofficial status through her ongoing role as co-chair of the Destiny Foundation.
4) Construction of Elusenia and the capital city of Caerleon progresses smoothly, and should be complete in the following months. Application for citizenship similarly continues, and we estimate that the minimum required population will be exceeded in time for the official founding. Currently, Elusenia is only accepting highly-qualified individuals with a background in advanced civil engineering, education, healthcare, and information technology.
((OOC - Thanks to Leopold Caine for making the flag!)) |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
836
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Posted - 2013.04.09 03:00:00 -
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All hail the Pony Planet. |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Destiny Foundation
459
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Posted - 2013.04.09 03:35:00 -
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We don't have enough capital, financial or political, to lay claim to an entire planet, Pilot Tuulinen.
Alas, it is a shame anything that isn't strictly in servitude of the four empires is held in so much contempt. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
836
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Posted - 2013.04.09 04:12:00 -
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I'm almost sad to see that a little good natured ribbing has forced you to back-peddle as much as you have, Inhonores. You should be proud enough of your vanity project to stick to your guns.
I also prefer the term 'service' to the one you used. I'm sure you remember a time when you held allegiance to something larger than yourself. |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Destiny Foundation
459
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Posted - 2013.04.09 04:17:00 -
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Backpedal where? This project is still ongoing. Secondly, if you actually read the releases, this is not my project but that of the Destiny Foundation. Thirdly, Elusenia certainly is larger than myself, and has my allegiance. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
838
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Posted - 2013.04.09 08:22:00 -
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Disingenuous. It's a vanity project and the face on it, at least in the Capsuleer Community, is your own.
It is actually SMALLER than you. |
Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
309
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Posted - 2013.04.09 11:01:00 -
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Are we still talking about this joke?
Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
262
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Posted - 2013.04.09 11:11:00 -
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So how much does it cost to establish a Federal nation-state these days?
Or do you just appoint yourself as leader after buying some land and then make a press release?
More importantly, does the Dear Leader get to set the tax rates? |
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Gwen Ikiryo
Hoderi's Folly
92
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Posted - 2013.04.09 11:43:00 -
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I'm going to abstain from commenting much in regard to my own opinion of Mr. Inhonores's venture, here - Though I will say that I find the idea of simply building an entire city and then asking people to move in after the fact a little bizzare and culturally sterile - It is a tad peculiar that it seems to be garnering such a considerable level of distaste from others in comparison to the equally sized personal corporations, petty holder domains, and other similar Capsuleer projects that many seem to flaunt about.
...It might just be that the whole thing does ring a little pretentious. You might want to tune the classical themes down a bit, if you don't mind me saying. |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Destiny Foundation
459
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:32:00 -
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Miss Ikiryo, I am merely capsuleer liason, and hold no position in the Elusenian Provisional Government. Instead, my position is reserved to holding a seat on the Destiny Foundation's Board of Directors, which has limited influence regarding Elusenia's aesthetic choices.
It seems a few pilots have comprehension difficulties and failed to note my non-political status. I presume it is because they forwent actually reading about Elusenia and decided to go straight to scoring points. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
839
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:38:00 -
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Today we have a lesson on soft and hard power - specifically the difference between control and influence and how they are BOTH effect. Capsuleer LIAISON. And your daughter, who has yet to reach her majority, has earned her way to a seat on the board through Merit?
Transparent. |
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
130
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:40:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote: It seems a few pilots have comprehension difficulties and failed to note my non-political status. I presume it is because they forwent actually reading about Elusenia and decided to go straight to scoring points.
As a neutral onlooker; you're not winning any favors with this tone. |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Destiny Foundation
459
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:51:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:And your daughter, who has yet to reach her majority, has earned her way to a seat on the board through Merit?.
Again, reading up on Destiny Foundation is crucial here. Anette Inhonores is co-chair by virtue of the fact that our primary source of income is from her work in the entertainment industry. Although her non-adult age makes her oblivious to some of the nuances of corporate politics, she has her own personal set of advisors and artificial intelligences to inform her.
We regard Anette Inhonores's position as co-chair to be meritorious, due to the fact Destiny Foundation would not even exist without her efforts. It is ironic that, as the youngest member of the organization, she works harder than most of the adults in our employ.
Quinzel Nikulainen wrote:As a neutral onlooker; you're not winning any favors with this tone.
The alternative is patronizing politeness. |
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
130
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:56:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote: The alternative is patronizing politeness.
I didn't realize you were so binary, Seriphyn.
Well, I could see how that would be desirable for some women. Simple. You know where you stand.
Still, I have a hard time imagining that you would struggle so much to be polite without being patronizing.
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Gwen Ikiryo
Hoderi's Folly
92
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:03:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:Miss Ikiryo, I am merely capsuleer liason, and hold no position in the Elusenian Provisional Government. Instead, my position is reserved to holding a seat on the Destiny Foundation's Board of Directors, which has limited influence regarding Elusenia's aesthetic choices.
It seems a few pilots have comprehension difficulties and failed to note my non-political status. I presume it is because they forwent actually reading about Elusenia and decided to go straight to scoring points.
...I was only joking, sir. I suppose the tone didn't translate well. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
839
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:05:00 -
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Oh, you know what? To the wastes with it. You're clearly beyond comprehending sense - you've obviously spent so long talking about this that you've convinced yourself of the sense of it and you can't be reached by outside agencies.
Just don't expect the rest of us to do like the baseliners do and smile and nod and pretend you're some kind of legitimate Statesman - because we know who you are and you don't have enough money to make us forget.
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Destiny Foundation
459
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:14:00 -
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Well, yes, I definitely am not a legitimate Statesman, as I already mentioned I hold no political office in Elusenia. The capsuleer liason role is tied to Destiny Foundation, not Elusenia. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
839
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:16:00 -
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And you have no other authority, interest or influence on the project - which is co-chaired by your daughter, who is a minor, of whom you are the sole parent, I believe?
The question of why a tiny republic would even NEED a capsuleer liaison, quite aside. |
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Alesius Lerance
Worlds Without Boundaries
7
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:21:00 -
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I'm certain I speak for the entire State when I say that we look forward to absorbing your corporate Republic. |
Scherezad
Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security
782
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:26:00 -
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I should just like to say;
The people of the Destiny Foundation are very nice people. They have shown the citizens of Nourvukainen great respect and kindness, and were welcome in Kakakela while they were here. The current political troubles with the Federation aside, they are friends of many Caldari. I'm glad to hear that they have a homeworld to call their own, now. |
Synthetic Cultist
Church of The Crimson Saviour
147
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:41:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:All hail the Pony Planet.
It is full of Horses ? |
Rhiannon Dellacorte
Azure Industrial Technologies
75
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Posted - 2013.04.09 20:35:00 -
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TL;DR
I have a question for Miss Inhonores:
1) Have you been gifted a pony by your father, the government of Elusenia, any private citizen of Elusenia, or any of the fans of your holo-vid works?
And if not:
2) Have you ever asked for a pony from your dad? I bet he'd totally cave. All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again. |
Shintoko Akahoshi
Kabuki TransSolar
2
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Posted - 2013.04.09 20:59:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:Anette Inhonores is co-chair by virtue of the fact that our primary source of income is from her work in the entertainment industry.
I may regret putting this hat on again after so many years, but I frankly don't see how this is much different than the little nation-states that collect around each of us as capsuleers. Think about it. The poorest of us employ as many baseliners as a small planetside corporation. We are free to engage in trade and diplomacy (and by that I mean "declare war") on others with no regard for any citizenship they hold with any empire. We may charge off past the borders of those empires to found our own. About the only difference I can see in this is that it is not (not claimed to be, at least) an organization created to serve capsuleers. Bio and writing |
BloodBird
Mixed Metaphor
123
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Posted - 2013.04.09 23:12:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Oh, you know what? To the wastes with it. You're clearly beyond comprehending sense - you've obviously spent so long talking about this that you've convinced yourself of the sense of it and you can't be reached by outside agencies.
Just don't expect the rest of us to do like the baseliners do and smile and nod and pretend you're some kind of legitimate Statesman - because we know who you are and you don't have enough money to make us forget.
But you're right - ingenuous irrelevances and misplaced passive aggressive condescension are pretty much the only tones I've ever seen you speak in. It's probably why I can't abide you when I can even make peace with Julianus Soter - and that man tries to kill me daily!
Lots of "we" here, on behalf of capsuleers, I guess.
May I ask why you keep complaining about this? If Inhonores believes his time is better served doing what he is currently doing and it is of no consequence to you, why do you care so much? Especially if he annoys you. Consider your involvement in this matter carefully, you do not want to be the one telling Gallenteans what they should and should not be doing, in their own lands.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
857
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Posted - 2013.04.10 07:08:00 -
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BloodBird wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Oh, you know what? To the wastes with it. You're clearly beyond comprehending sense - you've obviously spent so long talking about this that you've convinced yourself of the sense of it and you can't be reached by outside agencies.
Just don't expect the rest of us to do like the baseliners do and smile and nod and pretend you're some kind of legitimate Statesman - because we know who you are and you don't have enough money to make us forget.
But you're right - ingenuous irrelevances and misplaced passive aggressive condescension are pretty much the only tones I've ever seen you speak in. It's probably why I can't abide you when I can even make peace with Julianus Soter - and that man tries to kill me daily! Lots of "we" here, on behalf of capsuleers, I guess. May I ask why you keep complaining about this? If Inhonores believes his time is better served doing what he is currently doing and it is of no consequence to you, why do you care so much? Especially if he annoys you. Consider your involvement in this matter carefully, you do not want to be the one telling Gallenteans what they should and should not be doing, in their own lands.
You know what, you're right. I believe this to be a vanity project doomed to end in unhappiness for the poor experimental test subjects, but it's no more or less odious than several such experiments currently ongoing. Despite the fact that several facets of it's planning and inception fly in the face of what I believe to be responsible governance - it isn't happening in the State and it isn't affecting State Citizens.
All Inhonores was doing was publishing a press release to the Capsuleer community - something well within his remit as 'Capsuleer Liaison' and, if I'm honest, the responsible thing to do is let the Marketplace of Ideas decide upon it's worthiness. |
Dal Perhi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.04.29 16:20:00 -
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Some people just want to watch the world burn, myself i'd just like to watch your Republidisco burn. Someone should bombard it from orbit. |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
333
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Posted - 2013.04.29 17:00:00 -
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While the project doesn't seem to be of particular interest to the rest of the Capsuleer community, wanton slaughter of innocent baseliners is beyond the pale. |
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