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Savnire Jacitu
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2013.03.15 01:26:00 -
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And I love it. If you would have met me in another game maybe 3-4 years ago I would have been the most helpful player you could want. I would give you starter money, help you get gear or anything like that. Even in games where you were able to kill and take the item of another player if you tired a little trickery. But then I found EVE. I don't know when it happened or why it was this game but I went dark.
Now, after 2 years of playing this game, I would not hesitate to take every thing you have, without a second thought given the chance. Maybe it was the fact that you can with out threat of being banned or that people just make it so easy. I've joined corps just to ruin them, I've scammed people out of their ships and money, I even start taking candy from babies. And you know what? It is ******* freeing as hell. Everyone needs to just go out and ruin someones day. Hell ruin my day for all I care, it's funny as ****. I found the EVE nirvana of scamming, killing and being scammed and killed.
And to give this thread some point and possible longevity, lets all reflect on what horrible things we have done at the expence of others, and the good times we had doing it. And i;m not just talking being a pirate here either, the people that ruin markets and over charge by 1000% are just as bad as the pirates.
My name Savnire Jacitu, I am Evil and proud of it. <corrupt> |
Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
204
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Posted - 2013.03.15 01:30:00 -
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Because of eve I told my mother once "That is a terrible idea." out of habbit for what I tell people on the forums. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Simon Louvaki
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
216
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Posted - 2013.03.15 01:38:00 -
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Because of EVE, my wife thinks I'm cheating on her with a monotone woman with a fetish for docking permits. The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
827
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Posted - 2013.03.15 01:39:00 -
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*SNORK*
You're a Wally too .. Dark Wally
Pew pew pew --- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3677
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Posted - 2013.03.15 01:39:00 -
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Lock for Lack of Content ? Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
Dud1111111111
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.15 01:41:00 -
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I tried for Evil but the Bunny rabbit in me won out. |
Savnire Jacitu
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2013.03.15 01:44:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Lock for Lack of Content ?
The content is hidden in between my drunken words. <corrupt> |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
9283
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Posted - 2013.03.15 01:48:00 -
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Dud1111111111 wrote:I tried for Evil but the Bunny rabbit in me won out.
You're welcome "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Dud1111111111
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.15 01:49:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Dud1111111111 wrote:I tried for Evil but the Bunny rabbit in me won out. You're welcome
LOL |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3169
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Posted - 2013.03.15 01:50:00 -
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I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.
Does that make me evil or good?
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
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Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
329
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Posted - 2013.03.15 01:50:00 -
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"... you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
32
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Posted - 2013.03.15 02:04:00 -
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Ive been playing this game for about 6 years now and it hasnt affected my morals one bit.
Maybe you were *evil* all along, or maybe only the weak fall to the dark lures of the game.
All in all, Heathen pirate scum, Amarr Victor etc..etc..etc... |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
1157
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Posted - 2013.03.15 02:08:00 -
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Turned....Ha!
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Savnire Jacitu
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.03.15 02:18:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Ive been playing this game for about 6 years now and it hasnt affected my morals one bit.
Maybe you were *evil* all along, or maybe only the weak fall to the dark lures of the game.
All in all, Heathen pirate scum, Amarr Victor etc..etc..etc...
Damn I've been found out! Quickly to the space oceans where I'm safe. <corrupt> |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5737
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Posted - 2013.03.15 02:53:00 -
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Savnire Jacitu wrote:EVE turns us Evil
And I love it. If you would have met me in another game maybe 3-4 years ago I would have been the most helpful player you could want. I would give you starter money, help you get gear or anything like that. Even in games where you were able to kill and take the item of another player if you tired a little trickery. But then I found EVE. I don't know when it happened or why it was this game but I went dark.
Now, after 2 years of playing this game, I would not hesitate to take every thing you have, without a second thought given the chance. Maybe it was the fact that you can with out threat of being banned or that people just make it so easy. I've joined corps just to ruin them, I've scammed people out of their ships and money, I even start taking candy from babies. And you know what? It is ******* freeing as hell. Everyone needs to just go out and ruin someones day. Hell ruin my day for all I care, it's funny as ****. I found the EVE nirvana of scamming, killing and being scammed and killed.
And to give this thread some point and possible longevity, lets all reflect on what horrible things we have done at the expence of others, and the good times we had doing it. And i;m not just talking being a pirate here either, the people that ruin markets and over charge by 1000% are just as bad as the pirates.
My name Savnire Jacitu, I am Evil and proud of it. Heh, even though it's out of character for me, I think I'll rain on this parade. Just a little bit since the OP basically challenged players to ruin his day..
First of all, don't break your arm trying to pat yourself on the back there noobie.
It may seem like you've done a lot for a character created on 2011.09.14 @ 12:28 Eve Time. According to my calculations, you're only 1 1/2 years old, not over 2 years old. When or if you ever do manage to take down a major power-block Alliance single handedly, then that's something to post and boast about. Definitely not a couple of little escapades you've done to newby's.
I've met a lot of very cool helpful people in this game over the years who are still very cool and helpful. I guess it all depends on which side of the tracks you're from.
Anyway, Eve doesn't turn people evil. People turn other people evil. It's very easy to turn weak, feeble minded people into blind fanatics yelling "Jihad".
That sh*t is so commonplace it's old as this game. Obviously you're fixated on just one side of the coin, a small section of the whole picture, just another brick in the wall, etc.
What you should be asking for is stories of Sweet Revenge enacted by those who were screwed over.
Then you'll really see Evil.
DMC |
Savnire Jacitu
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
103
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Posted - 2013.03.15 03:23:00 -
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Quote:Heh, even though it's out of character for me, I think I'll rain on this parade. Just a little bit since the OP basically challenged players to ruin his day.. First of all, don't break your arm trying to pat yourself on the back there noobie. It may seem like you've done a lot for a character created on 2011.09.14 @ 12:28 Eve Time. According to my calculations, you're only 1 1/2 years old, not over 2 years old. When or if you ever do manage to take down a major power-block Alliance single handedly, then that's something to post and boast about. Definitely not a couple of little escapades you've done to newby's. I've met a lot of very cool helpful people in this game over the years who are still very cool and helpful. I guess it all depends on which side of the tracks you're from. Anyway, Eve doesn't turn people evil. People turn other people evil. It's very easy to turn weak, feeble minded people into blind fanatics yelling "Jihad". That sh*t is so commonplace it's old as this game. Obviously you're fixated on just one side of the coin, a small section of the whole picture, just another brick in the wall, etc. What you should be asking for is stories of Sweet Revenge enacted by those who were screwed over. Then you'll really see Evil. DMC
There we go! Someone attacks!
My broken arms hurts, my small mind can hardly understand the words you wrote, and I you are right I'm a noob still and will be for the next 5 years. But hey you're right I am small time. But you can't do much in a year and half. <corrupt> |
Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point I Know Right
98
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Posted - 2013.03.15 03:35:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Savnire Jacitu wrote:EVE turns us Evil
And I love it. If you would have met me in another game maybe 3-4 years ago I would have been the most helpful player you could want. I would give you starter money, help you get gear or anything like that. Even in games where you were able to kill and take the item of another player if you tired a little trickery. But then I found EVE. I don't know when it happened or why it was this game but I went dark.
Now, after 2 years of playing this game, I would not hesitate to take every thing you have, without a second thought given the chance. Maybe it was the fact that you can with out threat of being banned or that people just make it so easy. I've joined corps just to ruin them, I've scammed people out of their ships and money, I even start taking candy from babies. And you know what? It is ******* freeing as hell. Everyone needs to just go out and ruin someones day. Hell ruin my day for all I care, it's funny as ****. I found the EVE nirvana of scamming, killing and being scammed and killed.
And to give this thread some point and possible longevity, lets all reflect on what horrible things we have done at the expence of others, and the good times we had doing it. And i;m not just talking being a pirate here either, the people that ruin markets and over charge by 1000% are just as bad as the pirates.
My name Savnire Jacitu, I am Evil and proud of it. Heh, even though it's out of character for me, I think I'll rain on this parade. Just a little bit since the OP basically challenged players to ruin his day.. First of all, don't break your arm trying to pat yourself on the back there noobie. It may seem like you've done a lot for a character created on 2011.09.14 @ 12:28 Eve Time. According to my calculations, you're only 1 1/2 years old, not over 2 years old. When or if you ever do manage to take down a major power-block Alliance single handedly, then that's something to post and boast about. Definitely not a couple of little escapades you've done to newby's. I've met a lot of very cool helpful people in this game over the years who are still very cool and helpful. I guess it all depends on which side of the tracks you're from. Anyway, Eve doesn't turn people evil. People turn other people evil. It's very easy to turn weak, feeble minded people into blind fanatics yelling "Jihad". That sh*t is so commonplace it's old as this game. Obviously you're fixated on just one side of the coin, a small section of the whole picture, just another brick in the wall, etc. What you should be asking for is stories of Sweet Revenge enacted by those who were screwed over. Then you'll really see Evil. DMC Hasn't even been a year for me but i can agree to alot of the OP. Though i am pretty sure i can say 100% that i'm not evil. Can't steal in real life and in here i tried to rob a corp and couldn't do it. biomassed the character the next day in fact. Though unlike other games this one has actually affected how i work in real life.. Scary thought that a game involving money makes me more conservative and realistic about real life cash. It's also made me bring my ambition back and i'm looking into a real estate license because of it.
It's a scary thought that the idea that gaming brings out the good/bad in a person can actually happen in EVE. No other games have done this from my perspective.
I'll say this for a statement: EVE doesn't change who you truly are. It shows you the true you to an extent. Of course outliers exist. Such as i know this is a game so stealing isk can happen with no repurcussions to me so i could easily manipulate and scam here. Something i would never do in real life. Though the fact i didn't seems strange to me. Hell i actually felt... bad. I was 1 step away from just grabbing 300mil from a new corp and walking and i hesitated. The social extent EVE brings to the table could in a possible sense do this much more easily than other games.
Disclaimer: I always dig deeper than the surface with things such as this. Just a habit "I swear there are more people complaining over "nullsecers complaining" then actual nullsec people complaining." |
stoicfaux
2547
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Posted - 2013.03.15 04:03:00 -
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Pfffft. If you sub this game, you're evil from the get go. Let's see, 14.99 for a month's sub, or 14.99 to help feed those men, woman and kids at the local shelter/food bank/charity school/etc.. Play with imaginary spaceships, assembly lines, and internet "friends" for a hundred hours a month or volunteer to improve your community, uplift your local schools, et al. "Evil prospers when good men fail to act" pretty much covers anyone who plays an MMO.
So yes, playing Eve makes you Evil, however so does playing WoW, and WoW does Evil better.
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Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point I Know Right
98
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Posted - 2013.03.15 04:07:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Pfffft. If you sub this game, you're evil from the get go. Let's see, 14.99 for a month's sub, or 14.99 to help feed those men, woman and kids at the local shelter/food bank/charity school/etc.. Play with imaginary spaceships, assembly lines, and internet "friends" for a hundred hours a month or volunteer to improve your community, uplift your local schools, et al. "Evil prospers when good men fail to act" pretty much covers anyone who plays an MMO.
So yes, playing Eve makes you Evil, however so does playing WoW, and WoW does Evil better.
Whats more evil than the human psyche? Oh yes. I forgot. Big monsters with red eyes and scales and other **** that makes people laugh "I swear there are more people complaining over "nullsecers complaining" then actual nullsec people complaining." |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
1132
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Posted - 2013.03.15 04:12:00 -
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Actually, EVE thought me how to trust people.
Not to trust everyone, nor even to trust some with everything, but rather to be very specific with what to trust who on. Nyan |
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Silvara Nocturn
Nocturn Industries
11
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Posted - 2013.03.15 05:20:00 -
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I can never get myself to press down on the throttle when the deer is caught in my headlights. Eve does not turn you evil, it shows you what you are capable off. |
Goldnut Sachs
7
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Posted - 2013.03.15 05:50:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Savnire Jacitu wrote:EVE turns us Evil
And I love it. If you would have met me in another game maybe 3-4 years ago I would have been the most helpful player you could want. I would give you starter money, help you get gear or anything like that. Even in games where you were able to kill and take the item of another player if you tired a little trickery. But then I found EVE. I don't know when it happened or why it was this game but I went dark.
Now, after 2 years of playing this game, I would not hesitate to take every thing you have, without a second thought given the chance. Maybe it was the fact that you can with out threat of being banned or that people just make it so easy. I've joined corps just to ruin them, I've scammed people out of their ships and money, I even start taking candy from babies. And you know what? It is ******* freeing as hell. Everyone needs to just go out and ruin someones day. Hell ruin my day for all I care, it's funny as ****. I found the EVE nirvana of scamming, killing and being scammed and killed.
And to give this thread some point and possible longevity, lets all reflect on what horrible things we have done at the expence of others, and the good times we had doing it. And i;m not just talking being a pirate here either, the people that ruin markets and over charge by 1000% are just as bad as the pirates.
My name Savnire Jacitu, I am Evil and proud of it. Heh, even though it's out of character for me, I think I'll rain on this parade. Just a little bit since the OP basically challenged players to ruin his day.. First of all, don't break your arm trying to pat yourself on the back there noobie. It may seem like you've done a lot for a character created on 2011.09.14 @ 12:28 Eve Time. According to my calculations, you're only 1 1/2 years old, not over 2 years old. When or if you ever do manage to take down a major power-block Alliance single handedly, then that's something to post and boast about. Definitely not a couple of little escapades you've done to newby's. I've met a lot of very cool helpful people in this game over the years who are still very cool and helpful. I guess it all depends on which side of the tracks you're from. Anyway, Eve doesn't turn people evil. People turn other people evil. It's very easy to turn weak, feeble minded people into blind fanatics yelling "Jihad". That sh*t is so commonplace it's old as this game. Obviously you're fixated on just one side of the coin, a small section of the whole picture, just another brick in the wall, etc. What you should be asking for is stories of Sweet Revenge enacted by those who were screwed over. Then you'll really see Evil. DMC lol said the mission super star. |
Mire Stoude
Antelope with Night Vision Goggles
138
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Posted - 2013.03.15 06:06:00 -
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Eve didn't make me evil, it did teach me a lot about other people. |
Cannibal Kane
The African Terrorist
1566
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Posted - 2013.03.15 06:16:00 -
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Even though some people in this game might consider me to be mental and "evil'. I am far from it, I still help people especially new players that shows more guts than the 3 year old characters in the same corp I am war with.
I have been known to give people their losses back in isk with a little bit just because I like what they tried, even though they had no chance at all.
Don't chest beat to much. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1114
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Posted - 2013.03.15 06:37:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.
Does that make me evil or good?
You played WoW, thus the worst possible evil of all by default. EvE is like prison.-á It's a place when bad people go to learn how to become even worse people. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
844
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Posted - 2013.03.15 06:38:00 -
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Does EVE turn people evil or are evil people attracted to EVE?
edit: loosely related: Linkage TEST alt - don't trust. |
Katja Norolyev
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.03.15 07:07:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Pfffft. If you sub this game, you're evil from the get go. Let's see, 14.99 for a month's sub, or 14.99 to help feed those men, woman and kids at the local shelter/food bank/charity school/etc.. Play with imaginary spaceships, assembly lines, and internet "friends" for a hundred hours a month or volunteer to improve your community, uplift your local schools, et al. "Evil prospers when good men fail to act" pretty much covers anyone who plays an MMO.
So yes, playing Eve makes you Evil, however so does playing WoW, and WoW does Evil better.
Woah there, set down the koolaid, comrade Social Injustice! Not expending your personal resources (time/labor) in a vain attempt to uplift the derelects of mankind does not make you 'evil', it makes you normal. At best, you could argue that the activities you mentioned are 'good' things to do, but even so, they do not make someone a 'good person' - the serial rapist could conceivably be spending his non-****-filled hours volounteering down at the soup kitchen.
Try not to foist your bizarro-socialist moral superiority perspective on others, Mmkay? |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
307
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Posted - 2013.03.15 07:15:00 -
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Yeah EvE is seperated between the good and the scum. Good of you to point yourself out so clearly. As an honourable man, i like to reflect my personality in the things i do. You won't find me doing anything as low. Honesty and trust are far more valuable. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8158
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Posted - 2013.03.15 07:44:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.
Does that make me evil or good?
Well it was certainly for your own good. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8158
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Posted - 2013.03.15 07:46:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote: and WoW does Evil better.
This is true; WoW teaches the assumption that our choices don't carry any moral weight and that it's someone else's job to make sure bad things don't happen and are punished. A better breeding ground for evil is hard to imagine.
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
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Radamant Nemess
Caribbean Coke Enterprises
10
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Posted - 2013.03.15 09:35:00 -
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Impressive. Most impressive. EVE has taught you well. You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me.. i can fail at any speed you like |
Dave Stark
1996
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:15:00 -
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i was evil before i found eve.
then i started mining.
i don't think i'm very good at this whole internet spaceships thing... Want miners to move from high sec to null sec? Then give them a reason to join player corps, and stop null sec grav sites being worth less isk/hour than high sec asteroid belts. Really isn't difficult. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
69
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:26:00 -
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Silvara Nocturn wrote:I can never get myself to press down on the throttle when the deer is caught in my headlights. Eve does not turn you evil, it shows you what you are capable off.
My god, I just realised I'm a mindless drone... o_O There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
6349
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:39:00 -
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Eve does not make you evil, it merely attenuates the voices in your head, that have been imposed by societal norms, that tell you not to be evil.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and every machiavellian space bastard in it. |
March rabbit
No Name No Pain
588
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:45:00 -
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Savnire Jacitu wrote:My name Savnire Jacitu, I am Evil and proud of it. welcome to world of NPC: creatures with predefined behaviour (determined by the game you are playing at the moment).
Personally me is above of game mechanic and i don't change myself just because game forces me. Something to be proud of i guess
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Ravnik
Choke-Hold
5331
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:47:00 -
[36] - Quote
The weak minded are easily corruptible....
The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly.......... |
StoneCold
House of Sparrows
86
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:48:00 -
[37] - Quote
Eve doens-¦t make you evil. It-¦s just a huge sandbox (wow, who would have thought of that?) where you can PLAY A GAME in a way you never did before.
I-¦m rather irritated of the statement that a videogame is able to alter your morales (as player, not as player character).
If a game realy affects in in RL you probably should take a break and visit a doc (and that-¦s not a troll or a flame). Disclaimer: All depicted violent acts relate only (and exclusively) on ingame events. I support Psychotic Monk for CSM8 |
Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
403
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:58:00 -
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Savnire Jacitu wrote:I even start taking candy from babies. And you know what? It is ******* freeing as hell.
I suspect people used to make you feel small in real life.
If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if 'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
Jayson Kassis
Carbon Industries
32
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:07:00 -
[39] - Quote
Being mean and selfish is easy. Being kind and unselfish is difficult. |
Marcus Gord
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1915
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:10:00 -
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Silvara Nocturn wrote:I can never get myself to press down on the throttle when the deer is caught in my headlights. Eve does not turn you evil, it shows you what you are capable off.
When you have no restrictions, it's amazing what some people can do. You can't take the sky from me |
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Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
405
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:34:00 -
[41] - Quote
Jayson Kassis wrote:Being mean and selfish is easy. Being kind and unselfish is difficult.
Absolutely bang on bro.
Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it. If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if 'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
Jori McKie
Friends Of Harassment
62
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:41:00 -
[42] - Quote
Mara Rinn wrote:I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.
Does that make me evil or good?
What the hell, that made me actually laugh....
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Frying Doom
1962
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:44:00 -
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Yes I too was a happy, friendly guy turned evil by this game...
Oh sorry I was thinking of someone else.... We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Whitehound
1210
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:47:00 -
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Jori McKie wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.
Does that make me evil or good?
What the hell, that made me actually laugh.... I had a similar experience on the Skyrim forums, where I received a temp ban for "causing arguments". I wish the signs for when one should leave a place were always this clear. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Mhax Arthie
Pagan INC
46
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Posted - 2013.03.15 12:30:00 -
[45] - Quote
Funny, In WoW I was an absolute azhole and I got even banned for doing abusive stuff against other players. In EVE where CCP is educating you in being a total scumbag... I just can't do anything bad, I actually help people and I feel very bad if I scam someone. So in my case, as hilarious it sounds, EVE made me a good person. Maybe I need some medical help or get back to WoW :S |
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
369
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Posted - 2013.03.15 12:32:00 -
[46] - Quote
You already were evil.
EvE just brought it out. Strong the dark side is, quicker, more seductive. |
Shadow Lord77
Shadow Industries I
171
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Posted - 2013.03.15 12:44:00 -
[47] - Quote
I love you. You love me. We're a happy family. :D |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
37
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Posted - 2013.03.15 12:47:00 -
[48] - Quote
Marcus Gord wrote:Silvara Nocturn wrote:I can never get myself to press down on the throttle when the deer is caught in my headlights. Eve does not turn you evil, it shows you what you are capable off. When you have no restrictions, it's amazing what some people can do.
Real power is not to do. Real power is knowing what you can do and still deciding not to do it. |
Altessa Post
Midnight special super sexy
32
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:28:00 -
[49] - Quote
EVE reminded me about cultural differences. It is a big planet and we are not all the same. We do not necessarily share the same set of values. You have to be aware of this and you are not disappointed.
On the internet, you can be whatever you want to be. It is amazing that so many people chose to be stupid. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8166
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:39:00 -
[50] - Quote
Mhax Arthie wrote:Funny, In WoW I was an absolute azhole and I got even banned for doing abusive stuff against other players. In EVE where CCP is educating you in being a total scumbag... I just can't do anything bad, I actually help people and I feel very bad if I scam someone. So in my case, as hilarious it sounds, EVE made me a good person. Maybe I need some medical help or get back to WoW :S
Sounds like a little freedom was the therapy you needed.
What virtue is there in forced goodness? Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
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baltec1
Bat Country
5587
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:40:00 -
[51] - Quote
I got banned from STO for role playing a goon cyno alt from EVE looking for hotdrop targets. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1020
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:41:00 -
[52] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Mhax Arthie wrote:Funny, In WoW I was an absolute azhole and I got even banned for doing abusive stuff against other players. In EVE where CCP is educating you in being a total scumbag... I just can't do anything bad, I actually help people and I feel very bad if I scam someone. So in my case, as hilarious it sounds, EVE made me a good person. Maybe I need some medical help or get back to WoW :S Sounds like a little freedom was the therapy you needed. What virtue is there in forced goodness? Indeed. Only through freedom of choice can we embrace that which is true - Be it good or evil. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
148
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:54:00 -
[53] - Quote
KuroVolt wrote:Ive been playing this game for about 6 years now and it hasnt affected my morals one bit.
Maybe you were *evil* all along, or maybe only the weak fall to the dark lures of the game.
All in all, Heathen pirate scum, Amarr Victor etc..etc..etc...
Weirdly enough I thought I would be evil scum in this game when I started.
However, I'm pretty 'good' from a D&D perspective...well maybe not Good per se but Neutral with good tendnecies.
Not sure why. I think it's because it is 'cool' and 'popular' to be 'evil' in this game. That turns me off. I like to take the path lesser traveled.
Or Kuro has a point :D
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3747
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:09:00 -
[54] - Quote
Quote:Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it.
What a load of rubbish.
OP, there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing a bad guy in a game if you enjoy it and are comfortable with it. It is not, and has never been, and measure of your moral fortitude.
RPG's by design allow a person to portray character traits other than their norm, if they wish. It's rather one of the main points of the game.
Anyone who feels that a players in game actions can only reflect who they "really" are is having serious difficulty separating realtiy and fiction. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8166
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:14:00 -
[55] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it. What a load of rubbish. OP, there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing a bad guy in a game if you enjoy it and are comfortable with it. It is not, and has never been, and measure of your moral fortitude. RPG's by design allow a person to portray character traits other than their norm, if they wish. It's rather one of the main points of the game. Anyone who feels that a players in game actions can only reflect who they "really" are is having serious difficulty separating realtiy and fiction.
Anthony Hopkins is a murderous psychotic cannibal because he pretended to be Hannibal Lecter c/d? Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Winchester Steele
93
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:20:00 -
[56] - Quote
Keno Skir wrote:Jayson Kassis wrote:Being mean and selfish is easy. Being kind and unselfish is difficult. Absolutely bang on bro. Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it.
Wow. Sorry, but you couldn't possibly be more wrong here. It's a game. I play to win using the ruleset at hand. AWOXing, scamming, ganking are all legitimate tactics to reach my goals, and my use of those "underhanded" tactics tells you absolutely nothing about me in RL. To imply otherwise clearly demonstrates your own inability to separate reality from fiction.
Oh gee, Stephen King is always writing about murderers and psychotic people. He MUST be a psychotic murderer amirite?
Honestly, this type of self-righteous drivel is baffling to me. It's just a video game "bro", there is no necessary correlation between how people play and how they behave in RL. You can toss out whatever ad hominem arguments you want to, it doesnt change the fact that most people don't take their space pixels as seriously as you obviously do.
You must be a real joy to play Monopoly with though. "How dare you build that hotel on Boardwalk?!?! Clearly you are a heartless capitalist monster bent on the eradication of the poor and the weak!"
Hi-Sec needs a CSM rep with Courage, Dignity and Conviction. In these dark and trying times we need a man of action to represent our interests and protect the sanctity of our sandbox. That man is James 315 and his time is now. 315 for CSM 8! |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1020
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:30:00 -
[57] - Quote
Jayson Kassis wrote:Being mean and selfish is easy. Being kind and unselfish is difficult. Not so.
We are whatever we practice being. When we practice 'kind and unselfish,' it becomes a habit, just like any other.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Radamant Nemess
Caribbean Coke Enterprises
10
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:40:00 -
[58] - Quote
this thread is going places...
also, philosophy is strong in you these days... i can fail at any speed you like |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2701
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:42:00 -
[59] - Quote
EvE didnt turn me evil, it just let my natural state shine through. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3748
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:43:00 -
[60] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it. What a load of rubbish. OP, there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing a bad guy in a game if you enjoy it and are comfortable with it. It is not, and has never been, and measure of your moral fortitude. RPG's by design allow a person to portray character traits other than their norm, if they wish. It's rather one of the main points of the game. Anyone who feels that a players in game actions can only reflect who they "really" are is having serious difficulty separating realtiy and fiction. Anthony Hopkins is a murderous psychotic cannibal because he pretended to be Hannibal Lecter c/d? Well okay, you found ONE example of type casting...
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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Wodensun
ZeroSec
65
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:58:00 -
[61] - Quote
I was EVIL long before I met eve... kinda felt like I came home... |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
481
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Posted - 2013.03.15 17:24:00 -
[62] - Quote
Oh, really? ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Totalrx
NA No Assholes
85
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Posted - 2013.03.15 17:24:00 -
[63] - Quote
Remember -
Evil spelled backwards is Live.
We all want to live don't we? |
Mhax Arthie
Pagan INC
46
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Posted - 2013.03.15 17:44:00 -
[64] - Quote
Totalrx wrote:Remember -
Evil spelled backwards is Live.
We all want to live don't we? False. A lot of people think that life after death is the real one. Many horny dudes believe that death will bring them a LOT of chicks and finally they will get laid. :D
It's fun as long is't about a game, sadly not many can make a difference between a virtual world and reality :/ James gang is a real example where those ganked cannot accept that all they lost is some fukin pixels, not their real car/home or whatever. Really sad. |
Savnire Jacitu
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2013.03.15 17:46:00 -
[65] - Quote
I may have been evil already but I still remain a generous benefactor in other games.
And I would like to reinforce what other people have been saying here, just cause I steal and murder in a game does not and should not reflected on my moral code that I follow in reality. If you think that you are confined to playing a game with the same moral codes you champion in your life you are missing the point of the whole"escape reality" that games allow. But hey, sand box. Play it the way you want to play it.
Well I'm off to donate blood and then murder some over tursting people.(I really am donating blood btw, not saying this is the pinnacle of good deeds but it fits the argument kind ofish. <corrupt> |
Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
260
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Posted - 2013.03.15 20:28:00 -
[66] - Quote
I think the interwebs in general (including Eve) bring out many (not all) people's true selves due to the anonymity. Kind of like the guy who refuses to give up his seat on the bus to an elderly person, but if his friends or family were with him, he'd make a big show of giving them the seat. Or someone who road rages and cuts people off while driving alone, but would never act like that with others in the car.
No good deed goes unpunished |
Whitehound
1213
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Posted - 2013.03.15 21:33:00 -
[67] - Quote
Maxpie wrote:I think the interwebs in general (including Eve) bring out many (not all) people's true selves due to the anonymity. Kind of like the guy who refuses to give up his seat on the bus to an elderly person, but if his friends or family were with him, he'd make a big show of giving them the seat. Or someone who road rages and cuts people off while driving alone, but would never act like that with others in the car. It does not mean we are different.
I cannot say much about the thing with the elderly. I do it all the time, because it is ballsy and I love giving elderly women my seat (though not when the bus is half empty). It puts a smile on most of their faces. I give it to men, too, but they need to ask and so not to embarrass them. So I am not sure where you think this has to do with some kind of show.
I sure drive a car differently when I am alone than when I have others with me, because I am responsible for their safety, which is not what I have to do when I drive alone. It does not mean I have road rage. I only do not want to be bothered by passengers about my driving and so I drive to satisfies them (not so much myself) and to keep my focus where it should be. I believe I am a better driver when I drive alone, but I am also not a bad driver when I have others with me.
You make it sound like we are all a version Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, which really was just a movie/novell. I do not think this is true. The Internet only makes it all more visible to us and allows us to reflect upon ourselves more easily. This can be surprising and new even when we only see ourselves, maybe for the first time. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
Homowners
45
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Posted - 2013.03.15 21:55:00 -
[68] - Quote
EVE doesn't make you evil - like everyone else said, that's what the internet/online gaming makes you do.
EVE takes the natural percentage of online evil and narrows it down solely to those who are masochistic. Miners who stare at rocks for hours, "PvPers" who will spend two hours jumping from gate to gate to gate to gate just looking for "PvP," industrialists who spend more time plotting isk investments than planning for their own RL retirement, gankers who desperately hope their next target will give them "tears" (or, barring that, at least some sort of feedback that will at least acknowledge their existence).
And when that's not enough, you can always make an alt. Then another alt. Then another one.
The world would be a far better place if EVE truly was the definition of the word "evil" |
Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
261
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Posted - 2013.03.15 23:04:00 -
[69] - Quote
Whitehound wrote:Maxpie wrote:I think the interwebs in general (including Eve) bring out many (not all) people's true selves due to the anonymity. Kind of like the guy who refuses to give up his seat on the bus to an elderly person, but if his friends or family were with him, he'd make a big show of giving them the seat. Or someone who road rages and cuts people off while driving alone, but would never act like that with others in the car. It does not mean we are different. I cannot say much about the thing with the elderly. I do it all the time, because it is ballsy and I love giving elderly women my seat (though not when the bus is half empty). It puts a smile on most of their faces. I give it to men, too, but they need to ask and so not to embarrass them. So I am not sure where you think this has to do with some kind of show. I sure drive a car differently when I am alone than when I have others with me, because I am responsible for their safety, which is not what I have to do when I drive alone. It does not mean I have road rage. I only do not want to be bothered by passengers about my driving and so I drive to satisfies them (not so much myself) and to keep my focus where it should be. I believe I am a better driver when I drive alone, but I am also not a bad driver when I have others with me. You make it sound like we are all a version Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, which really was just a movie/novell. I do not think this is true. The Internet only makes it all more visible to us and allows us to reflect upon ourselves more easily. This can be surprising and new even when we only see ourselves, maybe for the first time.
I think you are (deliberately?) missing the point. Also, I said many, not all people.
No good deed goes unpunished |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
402
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Posted - 2013.03.16 04:31:00 -
[70] - Quote
Savnire Jacitu wrote:My name Savnire Jacitu, I am Evil and proud of it. Today in Wisconsin a young woman was being kicked to death by her 200 lbs plus gorilla of an ex-boyfriend. A passerby in a car saw this and stopped. The kicking man, taller and heavier than the passerby, refused to be deterred when confronted. Finally, the passerby pull out his conceal carry hand gun...made possible by the newly legislated conceal carry law in Wisconsin. The kicking man came at the now gun wielding passerby...who shouted that he would kill him if he took one more step. The woman's life was saved.
Who was evil here? Some would say the man carrying a gun because, "guns kill people". Others will blame Wisconsin for changing their law... the kicking man would probably say his girlfriend was evil...at the same time the woman would say it was her ex. My point, evil is relative and contingent on perspective. Mostly everyone is righteous in their own mind. Anyone claiming to be evil is probably not an authentic person. Ultimately judgment of who is evil is the purview of God alone. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG] |
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3955
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Posted - 2013.03.16 08:53:00 -
[71] - Quote
Mara Rinn wrote:I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.
Does that make me evil or good?
I have been permabanned and an admin personally beaten me, for a particularly helpful and in depth technical post on the Warhammer Forums. I can't even play some EA games any more, they banned me so hard I can't enter their websites Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |
Whitehound
1215
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Posted - 2013.03.16 09:43:00 -
[72] - Quote
Maxpie wrote:I think you are (deliberately?) missing the point. Also, I said many, not all people. Your point was that we have a true (and untrue) self. I am saying that it is not the case. We merely adapt. But, if it makes you happy to believe in a Jekyll and Mr. Hide version of ourselves then do not let me stop you. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Balthisus Filtch
RISE Inc.
37
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Posted - 2013.03.16 10:21:00 -
[73] - Quote
As long as you remember you are role playing then no problem good stuff
You can tell from the forums that a lot of people find it difficult to turn off from role playing an asshat and continue to post like an asshat.
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
42
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Posted - 2013.03.16 10:23:00 -
[74] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.
Does that make me evil or good?
I have been permabanned and an admin personally beaten me, for a particularly helpful and in depth technical post on the Warhammer Forums. I can't even play some EA games any more, they banned me so hard I can't enter their websites to i.e. resub
Wut? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8176
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Posted - 2013.03.16 10:31:00 -
[75] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.
Does that make me evil or good?
I have been permabanned and an admin personally beaten me, for a particularly helpful and in depth technical post on the Warhammer Forums. I can't even play some EA games any more, they banned me so hard I can't enter their websites to i.e. resub
What was the subject of the technical post? "How to optimise your Bright Wizard build" is different from "How to reconnect a banned IP so your bot network can resume operation" Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3956
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Posted - 2013.03.16 13:35:00 -
[76] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.
Does that make me evil or good?
I have been permabanned and an admin personally beaten me, for a particularly helpful and in depth technical post on the Warhammer Forums. I can't even play some EA games any more, they banned me so hard I can't enter their websites to i.e. resub What was the subject of the technical post? "How to optimise your Bright Wizard build" is different from "How to reconnect a banned IP so your bot network can resume operation"
No, I demonstrated (without doing it, just told it was possible) how a player could tamper with the client with some very an public mods API calls and also that the Bioware forums have little security since anyone can circumvent some of their restrictions.
P.S. When I last quit the game (August 2012) BWs (which I did not play) were almost extinct since a good while, they got nerfed so much and the melee so much buffed that playing casters was pointless. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8183
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Posted - 2013.03.16 13:41:00 -
[77] - Quote
I see... Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
mentalkiller
Galbadian Rush
20
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Posted - 2013.03.16 15:18:00 -
[78] - Quote
KuroVolt wrote:Ive been playing this game for about 6 years now and it hasnt affected my morals one bit.
Maybe you were *evil* all along, or maybe only the weak fall to the dark lures of the game.
All in all, Heathen pirate scum, Amarr Victor etc..etc..etc...
The OP got owned with this answer xD /mentalKiller |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5759
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Posted - 2013.03.17 17:38:00 -
[79] - Quote
Goldnut Sachs wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Savnire Jacitu wrote:EVE turns us Evil
And I love it. If you would have met me in another game maybe 3-4 years ago I would have been the most helpful player you could want. I would give you starter money, help you get gear or anything like that. Even in games where you were able to kill and take the item of another player if you tired a little trickery. But then I found EVE. I don't know when it happened or why it was this game but I went dark.
Now, after 2 years of playing this game, I would not hesitate to take every thing you have, without a second thought given the chance. Maybe it was the fact that you can with out threat of being banned or that people just make it so easy. I've joined corps just to ruin them, I've scammed people out of their ships and money, I even start taking candy from babies. And you know what? It is ******* freeing as hell. Everyone needs to just go out and ruin someones day. Hell ruin my day for all I care, it's funny as ****. I found the EVE nirvana of scamming, killing and being scammed and killed.
And to give this thread some point and possible longevity, lets all reflect on what horrible things we have done at the expence of others, and the good times we had doing it. And i;m not just talking being a pirate here either, the people that ruin markets and over charge by 1000% are just as bad as the pirates.
My name Savnire Jacitu, I am Evil and proud of it. Heh, even though it's out of character for me, I think I'll rain on this parade. Just a little bit since the OP basically challenged players to ruin his day.. First of all, don't break your arm trying to pat yourself on the back there noobie. It may seem like you've done a lot for a character created on 2011.09.14 @ 12:28 Eve Time. According to my calculations, you're only 1 1/2 years old, not over 2 years old. When or if you ever do manage to take down a major power-block Alliance single handedly, then that's something to post and boast about. Definitely not a couple of little escapades you've done to newby's. I've met a lot of very cool helpful people in this game over the years who are still very cool and helpful. I guess it all depends on which side of the tracks you're from. Anyway, Eve doesn't turn people evil. People turn other people evil. It's very easy to turn weak, feeble minded people into blind fanatics yelling "Jihad". That sh*t is so commonplace it's old as this game. Obviously you're fixated on just one side of the coin, a small section of the whole picture, just another brick in the wall, etc. What you should be asking for is stories of Sweet Revenge enacted by those who were screwed over. Then you'll really see Evil. DMC lol said the mission super star.
This one's for you.
DMC |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
10
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:21:00 -
[80] - Quote
Mara Rinn wrote:I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.
Does that make me evil or good?
It makes you unlucky. That and they actually take the whole personal attacks/masked profanity thing pretty seriously.
Having said that; I would argue that the zero real life consequences nature of the Internet is turning us all into borderline sociopaths.
In short - the Internet makes us evil. |
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Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
550
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Posted - 2013.03.17 21:42:00 -
[81] - Quote
I'll be honest, when SWTOR came out i tried to figure out how to scam.
In star trek i've robbed guilds blind.
I meta the crap out of most every game i play CCP don't make us wait another decade for a drone overhaul; DRONE OVERHAUL NOW! |
Stan'din
Incursion Squad Punkz 'n Monkeys
33
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Posted - 2013.03.18 01:50:00 -
[82] - Quote
KuroVolt wrote:Ive been playing this game for about 6 years now and it hasnt affected my morals one bit.
Maybe you were *evil* all along, or maybe only the weak fall to the dark lures of the game.
All in all, Heathen pirate scum, Amarr Victor etc..etc..etc...
Pillaging, murder with maybe a little bit of fornication with the locals is as human as speech Your about as much use as a condom dispenser in the Vatican. |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises Project Wildfire
318
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Posted - 2013.03.18 02:50:00 -
[83] - Quote
I would say that EVE has made me a better (note better, not nicer) person then i used to be. I have always been as polite as i possibly could, and when i was a kid i dident even dare to take apples from my grandmothers apple tree without asking for permission first I could never say my opinions, was very shy and in general just do whatever i was told to do and not question it.
Now i will argue like mad with corp members and trust me if they do something i disagre with i have no issues telling them "Your being an idiot!". Well ok i word it a bit more politely but still.. I guess in a way you can count this as me having become more "evil" since i dont spend 100% of my time agreeing with everyone just because i dont want to be rude or..displease them. Ofc this has also affected me in real life, which has been both good and bad depending on who you ask
But what you mean with "evil"... I dont think its as much that people become more hostile or agressive when playing EVE. EVE simply allows them a much more free form of gameplay then most games, and since this is the only game that allows for scams/thefts/havoc on this scale i think more people come here because they want to TRY this form of play.
And ofc when you are new and so many older players will tell you "Become a pirate! Everything else is boring!" it also implements the mindset early on that you have to pretend to be "evil" to be counted as "cool" by some EVE players. And it dosent even have to be EVE players. At one point years ago we had a new player join the corp. He was happy just doing mining and was thrilled about getting his first hauler. Now also note this person was younger in real life then your average EVE player which most likely affected things. So some of his friends had been watching him play and were teasing him about how "boring" things were and asking why he dident do something cool like blowing people up. Atleast this is the reason he gave us after it was discovered that he had sold the war targets all the information he had about us (member list, eve mails, online times and so on) for a (i still cant believe this) t1 frig and a 200k hardwire
So as you can see... in some cases it can be pure group pressure and the need to be accepted in your commenty that can make people do things they would never do in real life. Ofc you would think that most adults would be imune to group pressure or the need to "be just like everyone else", but the next time some big scandal happens in EVE, you can be pretty sure there is more then one person in there screaming for justice without really understanding what they are supposed to be uspet about. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Naes Mlahrend
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When I played WoW I was evil....I played horde....yea?
I like being a "good guy," in this universe full of possibilities. Don't get me wrong, if I find a chance to pull one over I'd probably take it but I don't go out of my way. Games don't make you evil but I'd say...
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