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Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.15 23:06:00 -
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Well, heres a big one with regards to the fiction only CCP can answer, and its a specific part of the knowlege of Earth I'm curious to know.
Does CCP know what happened to Earth and the Terrans? Not asking to be told, I don't like spoilers if they are part of the overarching plot I hope is there.... But I just need to know, is there a sealed vault with an envelope sealed with the blood of TomB containg what happened to Earth, that the knowlege exists in a plot Bible somewhere that is never to be revealed fully.
I suppose ultimately this is like a worshiper asking a priest if God exists... but still.
tl;dr
Anyone at CCP know what happened to Earth, no need for spoilers.
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Julian Darklight
Kid's Logistics Inc
8
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Posted - 2013.03.15 23:54:00 -
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If you watch the old trailer it leaves little doubt that Earth is dead, and has long been so. |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
968
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Posted - 2013.03.16 00:19:00 -
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Julian Darklight wrote:If you watch the old trailer it leaves little doubt that Earth is dead, and has long been so. It said a world outgrown that could not by itself sustain humanity, I don't interpret that as a Serenity style evacuation but as a spreading out of the existing population to the stars.
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Marcion Cravik
Phoibe Enterprises Project Wildfire
7
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Posted - 2013.03.16 00:20:00 -
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Julian Darklight wrote:If you watch the old trailer it leaves little doubt that Earth is dead, and has long been so.
No no, you mixed that up. Our side of the Eve Gate died when it collapsed. Earth had that huge corporate space empire that could afford a couple of multi-century wars. |

Sepherim
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
337
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Posted - 2013.03.16 02:18:00 -
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Indeed. Earth is probably active and well on its own, expanding as it can. Sepherim Catillah Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Ensign Ex-Imperial Navy Imperator Commander |

Lendwill
A Village of Knives
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Posted - 2013.03.16 05:25:00 -
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It could also be that time is not uniform on either side of the gate with no time passing on the Earth side. That would mean they don't notice the gate closing and would still be over-crowded and eager to expand. So what happens when one day the gate finally opens again on our side... |

Keitunen Eto
Uchusen Technologies
0
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Posted - 2013.03.16 07:59:00 -
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Ive always wondered this..... Would like to know |

Seriphyn Inhonores
Destiny Foundation
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Posted - 2013.03.16 12:15:00 -
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Many times, writers don't even have an answer to the unanswered questions in their own creations. It sustains the element of mystery and intrigue.
I suspect the same with CCP and Earth. |

Eija-Riitta Veitonen
Unicorn Enterprise
71
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Posted - 2013.03.16 12:45:00 -
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Nearly 16 thousand years have passed since the collapse of the EVE gate, for what we know terrans on the other side may have killed off each other long time ago. We do know, that they ran short on space to expand prior to discovery of the EVE wormhole, and that lack of space spurred armed conflicts in between factions. Although it would be awesome to get some more information on what happened on the other side. At least unofficially. |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
968
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Posted - 2013.03.16 13:55:00 -
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Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:. Although it would be awesome to get some more information on what happened on the other side. At least unofficially. It would be awesome to know, its part of the allure, the mystery. All I'm hoping for is that CCP have a note of what the intend to happen on the Earth side regardless of if it ever comes into the plot.
X series eventualy brought Earth back into the plot, though I always liked the idea that one of my colonies in wormhole space was planted on an abandoned Earth.....
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Tykari
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
118
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Posted - 2013.03.16 17:39:00 -
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Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:Nearly 16 thousand years have passed since the collapse of the EVE gate, for what we know terrans on the other side may have killed off each other long time ago. We do know, that they ran short on space to expand prior to discovery of the EVE wormhole, and that lack of space spurred armed conflicts in between factions. Although it would be awesome to get some more information on what happened on the other side. At least unofficially.
It depends really, the limits of Stargate technology is what caused the expansion to stop. The EVE wormhole allowed to bridge a huge gap of space where conventional gates could be used again to set up and expand an entire network.
The thing is, with some of the Ancient races out there in EVE we get hints that some of them developed better technology during the Dark Ages that did away with some of those issues. In those 16.000 years there is a very good chance that Earth and the Terrans would have created and improved on space travel technology to do away with those limits as well. Keeping in mind the large volume of systems they already colonised before EVE, it seems a little difficult to imagine they would have been able to wipe out each and every world before they came up with new tech, especially considering how wars tend to accelerate technological developments.
In this dark void we are like brilliant stars, holding within us both the creative and destructive power to bring a new dawn upon worlds or plunge them into eternal darkness. |

Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
524
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Posted - 2013.03.16 23:14:00 -
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In EVE lore, all the average person living in New Eden is that Earth/Terra is where humanity came from and it's on the otherside of the EVE gate. Apart from that, not much else is known. For the most part, anything regarding Earth can be seen as a myth.
We don't know what happened to Earth and the Humans on the other side of the wormhole. There many fan theories, a lot of them regarding sleepers like the Sleepers were responsible for destroying humanity or even better PLOT TWIST: THE SLEEPERS ARE HUMANS
Occasionally, ancient Terran technology is discovered and exploited by someone.
I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1159
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Posted - 2013.03.19 02:50:00 -
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You should start your search in the Goner Temple. EvE is like prison.-á It's a place when bad people go to learn how to become even worse people. |

KingMazz ONE
Gravit Negotii S2N Citizens
20
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Posted - 2013.03.19 11:40:00 -
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BLAME GOONSWARM THEY DID IT. ITS A SCAM. IT MAKE"S MY WINKY GO DING !!!!!!!!!!!! |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
980
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Posted - 2013.03.19 12:17:00 -
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Beginning to suspecting there's a general blanket ban from ISD and the Devs going anywhere near Earth related threads incase they somehow let something slip by accident. Well played CCP, but that answers my bloody question in the first place as to if there was anything written down to know 
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |

Sepherim
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
340
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Posted - 2013.03.19 13:01:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Beginning to suspecting there's a general blanket ban from ISD and the Devs going anywhere near Earth related threads incase they somehow let something slip by accident. Well played CCP, but that answers my bloody question in the first place as to if there was anything written down to know 
I don't see how silence can answer any question. They could have been silent because they don't know, or because the answer hasn't been made and they were told not to say anything about it non existing, or whatever.
In the end, as much as we'd like to know, truth is that it doesn't matter at all unless, as has been explained, they can come back into EVE one way or another. And, if they do, then we'll know what happened. Sepherim Catillah Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Ensign Ex-Imperial Navy Imperator Commander |

Sonkut
Network Gel Strategic Alliance
2
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Posted - 2013.03.19 13:07:00 -
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You can't really assume just because you have had an answer that there necessarily IS an answer. With something as big as eve where you can write stories involving sleepers, corps, empires, pirates, space zombies, plagues, rogue ai, wormholes, anything pretty much you can imagine that could happen in what is a small galaxyGǪ.. do you really think they have gotten so far as figuring out what happened in the past 16 thousand years on the other side of the gate?
I always like the idea that wormholes take you to old earth systems, but I would have thought they would have been stripped clean of resources. There is the other thought that sleepers are the method used to colonise systems the earth forces are interested in, a method of expansion before the primary force arrives? Like placing a flag pole on the moon only sent by what has developed from a megacorp after 16000 years.
The other thought is that they suffered the same fate as the Jove. |

Rall Mekin
Jadablade S E D I T I O N
26
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Posted - 2013.03.20 20:32:00 -
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Its 16K years of history. Do you really want to try to figure out 16K years of drama and build a game like EVE? All they'd have would be footnotes.
In 16k years at the rate our technology is progressing, unless we hit a bottleneck, EVE-type technology would likely be a footnote. I don't think the Four Empires would want to encounter Terra if they weren't friendly. |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1109
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Posted - 2013.03.21 01:29:00 -
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Rall Mekin wrote:Its 16K years of history. Do you really want to try to figure out 16K years of drama and build a game like EVE? All they'd have would be footnotes. . Exactly. That is exactly what I am asking, do those notes exist or not.
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Dreygun
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.03.23 09:46:00 -
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if i had to guess i would say that earth is being saved for a far off expansion in which the eve gate reopens and the super advanced terrans invade to reclaim the lost "colonies" they would be way more advanced than us so they would constitute end game PVE. |

Keitunen Eto
Uchusen Technologies
1
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Posted - 2013.03.23 22:46:00 -
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Dreygun wrote:if i had to guess i would say that earth is being saved for a far off expansion in which the eve gate reopens and the super advanced terrans invade to reclaim the lost "colonies" they would be way more advanced than us so they would constitute end game PVE.
What endgame? EVE is known for being able to create a new character and fitting up a Merlin then going head to head with another frigate and or destroyer and being able to have a 50/50 or a 25/75 chance of kicking its arse. |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1250
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Posted - 2013.03.24 00:09:00 -
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Keitunen Eto wrote:Dreygun wrote:if i had to guess i would say that earth is being saved for a far off expansion in which the eve gate reopens and the super advanced terrans invade to reclaim the lost "colonies" they would be way more advanced than us so they would constitute end game PVE. What endgame? EVE is known for being able to create a new character and fitting up a Merlin then going head to head with another frigate and or destroyer and being able to have a 50/50 or a 25/75 chance of kicking its arse. He means that when Eve is shut down. The endgame of Eve Online for all of us in the Dusk war of the future.
Hoping we get to Matrix style interface's before then, Its been a dream of mine since I was 14 to literally jack into Eve and fly my Starships....
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |

Keitunen Eto
Uchusen Technologies
1
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Posted - 2013.03.24 00:11:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Keitunen Eto wrote:Dreygun wrote:if i had to guess i would say that earth is being saved for a far off expansion in which the eve gate reopens and the super advanced terrans invade to reclaim the lost "colonies" they would be way more advanced than us so they would constitute end game PVE. What endgame? EVE is known for being able to create a new character and fitting up a Merlin then going head to head with another frigate and or destroyer and being able to have a 50/50 or a 25/75 chance of kicking its arse. He means that when Eve is shut down. The endgame of Eve Online for all of us in the Dusk war of the future. Hoping we get to Matrix style interface's before then, Its been a dream of mine since I was 14 to literally jack into Eve and fly my Starships....
Dont you die if you are killed while linked into the Matrix? Just speaking my concerns. |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1250
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Posted - 2013.03.24 00:20:00 -
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Keitunen Eto wrote:[quote=Kirjava]Dont you die if you are killed while linked into the Matrix? Just speaking my concerns.
Well that was a fiction, pretty sure it would work differently if we are developing the technology for real. Point in context, we are now getting computer assistant watched that we have wanted since the 1920's.
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |

Keitunen Eto
Uchusen Technologies
1
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Posted - 2013.03.24 00:25:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Keitunen Eto wrote:[quote=Kirjava]Dont you die if you are killed while linked into the Matrix? Just speaking my concerns. Well that was a fiction, pretty sure it would work differently if we are developing the technology for real. Point in context, we are now getting computer assistant watched that we have wanted since the 1920's.
Alrighty then I was just voicing worst case scenario
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Johlie
Killary's Pub
5
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Posted - 2013.04.04 05:19:00 -
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I like to think Terran's are still alive and kicking. There are 7,500 star systems in New Eden and 200-400 billion in the Milky Way. The probability that Terran's explored the entirety of the Milky Way and settled it before or after the Eve gate collapse is low. |

Utremi Fasolasi
The Jagged Edge Rebel Alliance of New Eden
191
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:18:00 -
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One thing about living in Santa Carla I never could stomach - all the damnn++ vampires. |

kukki Zhu
Knights of The Appocalypse
11
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Posted - 2013.04.05 07:26:00 -
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Kirjava wrote: Anyone at CCP know what happened to Earth and the Terrans?
They built an eve gate, entered another space- which could be even an other dimension and they continued to evolve here. Now, if you are asking what happened to the ones on the other side of the gate... I am really surprised that nobody in this topic thought that it is irrelevant. And I am astounded that some of you wonder if there is going to be an expansion including the space where earth is located. I am lacking words to express my frustration.
I don't know how to describe it, exactly, but players of eve just shouln't be concerned about what is going on in the place where they originated from. You will never know. It is either incomprehensibly far away, or even in other segment- dimension.
tl;dr
There is no answer to your question, because it is part of the story which was not even written. It was just a background to clarify the existance of the game universe. For the sake of recreation, you could host a "what if" discussion, but even if ccp were ever to run out of ideas/ come up with a brilliant idea - and connect us to the old universe - there is no sense in thinking about it now.
I hope that answered your question ^ -^/ |

Davin Intaki
Magnus Legio
0
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Posted - 2013.04.06 22:00:00 -
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Dreygun wrote:if i had to guess i would say that earth is being saved for a far off expansion in which the eve gate reopens and the super advanced terrans invade to reclaim the lost "colonies" they would be way more advanced than us so they would constitute end game PVE.
This would be the storyline for the RPG Heavy Gear. Same thing happened, Earth was head of a huge Empire and some colonies got cut off for a long time. When Earth was able to come back and reclaim its lost colonies, those colonies had their own technology (Gear tech which is mech/walker) and government structure and of course resisted. The terrans had bioengineered soldiers and advanced hover/antigrav technology. Very cool storyline.
I would like to see the Eve Gate open, a massive Earth Fleet come in and wreak havok and then the Gate collapse again trapping the Earth fleet here and they become another faction. WOuld be great fun for Dust and Eve.
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Davin Intaki
Magnus Legio
0
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Posted - 2013.04.06 22:01:00 -
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Davin Intaki wrote:Dreygun wrote:if i had to guess i would say that earth is being saved for a far off expansion in which the eve gate reopens and the super advanced terrans invade to reclaim the lost "colonies" they would be way more advanced than us so they would constitute end game PVE. This would be the storyline for the RPG Heavy Gear. Same thing happened, Earth was head of a huge Empire and some colonies got cut off for a long time. When Earth was able to come back and reclaim its lost colonies, those colonies had their own technology (Gear tech which is mech/walker) and government structure and of course resisted. The terrans had bioengineered soldiers and advanced hover/antigrav technology. Very cool storyline. I would like to see the Eve Gate open, a massive Earth Fleet come in and wreak havok and then the Gate collapse again trapping the Earth fleet here and they become another faction. WOuld be great fun for Dust and Eve.
Actually that is also the storyline for Warhammer 40k lmao. |
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