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baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.16 19:41:00 -
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Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
I call bullshit.
You don't want **** changed, if you did you'd do something about it like shooting monuments in Jita until CCP changed it.
We have been calling for a moon nerf for years including at fan fest, the CSM and general chats to Devs on the forums. Its a very well known fact that many people seem to want to ignore because goons are evil ect. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:25:00 -
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Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
Calling for a moon nerf sounds to me like so very much less than the outcry that was heard over incarna. If you're so up in arms about moon goo, give the fight to have it nerfed into the ground or removed the same fire that was given to the whole WiS debacle.
Its slated for work after the ship rebalancing is done. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:30:00 -
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Whenever its done. Ship balance is more important than moon goo. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:39:00 -
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Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:baltec1 wrote:Whenever its done. Ship balance is more important than moon goo. Well if moon goo isn't important, why doesn't CCP just shut it off?
Did I say it wasnt important? |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:23:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:
The economy affects EVERY1 in the Sandbox... ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID
Where moon goo supply comes from means squat to most people while ship balance impacts everyone. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:50:00 -
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General Nusense wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:Tech isn't the problem. The sov grind is. and why is the sov grind a problem? i shall answer this for you. everyone is blue to each other. get rid of the mile long blue lists and sov grinding wont be a problem. but that would require balls. which no sov holding alliance, except solar, have.
Might want to catch up on current events, your picture of null is out of date be well over a month. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.16 23:39:00 -
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Rhavin Kha'siere wrote:Nullbears love to rant about how hisec is all risk-averse. While that may be true, that doesn't mean those selfsame nullbears aren't risk averse either. Case in point, this idea of Cloud Ring (which is really just a player organized version of a PVP Arena, complete with rules and judges). If a Great War (which, it could be argued, previous incarnations created the massive coalitions that now dominate nullsec) is deemed to be something that would take too long, and be too destructive, and the only alternative is to fabricate fake fights for the sake of good fights (which are in truth only good because of the RISK and the surprise inherent in their emergent creation) while eliminating all potential vectors of risk...then you are risk-averse, and are just as terrible as the pubbies you love to hate. I'm sure your going to say something about how you earned the right to be top dog (which you did, because those who fought against BoB TOOK RISKS), and if someone else wants your space then they should come and take it; but that's like America, Russia and China telling Somalia to come at 'em. There is no potential threat to the blue doughnut, and there will never be a potential threat as long as all three coalitions are too damn scared to actually RISK something against each other.
If the only solution to the stagnation of Nullsec is to create a completely risk-averse PVP Arena, which somehow proves to CCP that null is borked (which, in and of itself is absurd, considering that is exactly what nullbears complain hisec is turning into); then your doing it wrong. If a Great War would be so costly, and take so long, that people who have played this awesome game for the past ten years would quit...you have your priorities backwards.
Yes, y'all fought your way to the top, and did such an excellent job of destroying any potential threat to your existence. Now, the very thought of having to risk said position as top dog would cause ten year vets to quit...that is the very definition of risk averse. I mean, those theoretical bittervets would quit because of the amount of risk inherent in a three-way Great War? Even discounting the idea of risk, YOU SPENT TEN YEARS PLAYING THIS GAME, AND A WAR THAT MAY LAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR IS TOO LONG? Are you serious?
And you claim us pubbies are risk-averse idiots who want all the things now, in perfect safety. Your hypocrisy is breathtaking.
Not only do we have no need for even more space but we don't have the manpower to secure it if we do capture it. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.17 10:52:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:
You all sure do have a lot of excuses to avoid just random fun combat. So keep making them and pretend people are fleeing null for reasons other then boring and risk averse leadership that won't do anything unless it has overwhelming odds.
Pure geniuses, the whole lot of you.
We have random fun combat. Ripping down thousands of towers, POCO and TCU is not fun.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.17 13:35:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:baltec1 wrote:Sentamon wrote:
You all sure do have a lot of excuses to avoid just random fun combat. So keep making them and pretend people are fleeing null for reasons other then boring and risk averse leadership that won't do anything unless it has overwhelming odds.
Pure geniuses, the whole lot of you.
We have random fun combat. Ripping down thousands of towers, POCO and TCU is not fun. That was your choice. Nobody forced you to zerg it up , making sure in advance that no fights happen from your overwhelming numbers. Too late to complain about it now.
What has our numbers got to do with the soul crushingly bad time everyone has with grinding down endless structure hitpoints for solid month? |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:18:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:baltec1 wrote: What has our numbers got to do with the soul crushingly bad time everyone has with grinding down endless structure hitpoints for solid month?
Because when you have all the numbers and your goal is to conquer and divide up the whole universe, all that you get is a soul crushing bad time of shooting structures, and you deserve it. You'd think this is obvious.
So the trillions of hitpoints you have to burn through in a sov war simply go away if we have smaller powerblocks?
You do realise that it will take even longer with smaller fleets right? |
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baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:40:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote: You would think 15% of players controlling the space would be incentive for the other 85%.
Why? Because you are posting in a 9 page thread that goes on and on about how these Moons are so valuable and controlled by a small portion of the player base. Somehow moving them will bring about war, then perhaps people should try and conquer them.
What? The high sec lords doing things for themselves?! |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.18 20:12:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:baltec1 wrote:
What? The high sec lords doing things for themselves?!
Can you please name a few of these HI SEC lords? (eg: Shaddo NULL SEC lord of ThunderdomeGäó, The Mittani NULL SEC lord of TECH, etc...)
You can be the lord of bitterness. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.18 20:59:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:
I wouldn't be the HI SEC lord of bitterness... I'd be the Forum lord of bitterness while you & a few Goons could be called the Forum lords of hyprocacy
That would require us to promote or try to enforce standards, attitudes, lifestyles, virtues, beliefs, principles, etc., that we do not actually hold ourselves.
Lords of chaos would be more apt. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.19 13:47:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Just make ALL moon mining modules be outside POS and have 50K ehp.
Also make all the structures defensively sov related drop to 1/10th of their current HP pool.
Done.. It will become impossible to keep all universe under control by so few people... unless they work a LOT on it.
Also drop the stupid mail warnign that your sov system is being attacked. If you have no patrosl there to check for that you do not deserve to know! And groups with even fewer people wouldn't be able to hold anything at all. Bad idea. Not at all, because they would be there to defend their rather small empire. Of course if attacked by a huge group they would fall... exaclty sam,e as today.. and exaclty same as shoudl be. Thing is should be harder to defend, and should be impossible to defend a zone where no one lives.
You just made it impossible to defend moon mining equipment. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.19 23:22:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Organized events, meaningless fights. Azeroth has invaded New Eden. Thanks Goons and friends.
Nothing is stopping you from raising your own fleets to oppose us. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.20 01:08:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:baltec1 wrote:Sentamon wrote:Organized events, meaningless fights. Azeroth has invaded New Eden. Thanks Goons and friends. Nothing is stopping you from raising your own fleets to oppose us. Can I also join ThunderdomeGäó ? Do I have to include a 500 million deposit along with the ThunderdomeGäó fleet application & will you be handling all the ISK You just gave me an idea. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:29:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Frying Doom wrote:[quote=RubyPorto][quote=Frying Doom] Tech is 72,000 isk per unit, so 7,200,000 per hour, 172,800,000 per day, so care to find me a mackinaw that mines 24 hours a day? If so they probably hang out in delve & are BOTs...
More likely Lonetrek or the Citadel. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:50:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Will be interesting if Odessy's resource redistribution will redistribute TECH moons along with HI SEC's lo end minerals to NULL
We can but hope. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.26 10:57:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Well I gues we'll be seeing on June 4th if Odyssey addresses the near monopoly TECH bottleneck or they cave in to the big blue doughnut & address it SoonGäó
We have yet to find someone in favor of keeping tech as it is right now. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.26 23:29:00 -
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Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
Do you even live in null? If so do you play with your eyes open or are they shut like your mind on anyone that disagrees with you.
The sea of blue in null is not imaginary just like the response to potential war that was going to happen and replaced with war games.
Its clear you dont live in null. |
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baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.27 20:49:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:
Right, like that's even possible. You guys seriously need to stop pushing the lie that your mega-alliances can ever be dethroned. You have had years of all the advantages of income, organization, super capital blobs, etc to ever be taken down via in-game mechanics. The only way a mega-alliance will go down is via metagaming or internal dissent. To pretend otherwise is either naive in the extreme or intellectually dishonest.
War is war, how its fought matters not so long as you win. No empire lasts forever, not even ours. |
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