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j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2005.09.05 02:21:00 - [1051] "And yes, I still maintain that the thorax is the drone boat, not the vexor. I've no idea where that idea came into effect. The thorax ship description says it is. Furthermore, the thorax has always had more drone space. But the vexor is the primary drone carrier because you guys say so? I'm not convinced." Probably because Vexor hull is given to Ishtar which is the tech.2 drone carrier, while Deimos is the tech.2 gunboat... so people want the tech.1 versions to match that ^^;; (oh and ftr i do consider Thorax without plate sufficiently fragile -.o it's just like discussed earlier, possibly no one really wants to see plates go from cruisers in general, because it'd mean other cruisers turn paper-thin as well, and again become unable to face anything bigger than them. So it's more convenient to demand drone murder...
Naughty Boy Chronics of ordinary hate	Posted - 2005.09.05 02:21:00 - [1052] Edited by: Naughty Boy on 05/09/2005 02:47:26 Originally by: Ravenge So, lets say the rax got its drone bay nerf... would it be acceptable for it to gain two extra slots? After all.. the rupture has 14 slots, the Moa has 14 slots, the maller has 15 slots.. and the rax has 13 slots.. that would bring it inline slot wise with the other Tier 3 cruisers. I think that there is a fair share of provocation in this. Fair enough, i'll play your game. The thorax does as much damage at long range than the other tier 3 cruisers, with one less slot. Therefore, it doesn't need anymore drone bay than any of them, so at most 60m¦ as the rupture. It should also lose some powergrid as it is not fair that moa and rupture pilots do have to train the advanced weapon upgrade skill to 3 to match the damage of the thorax, whereas the thorax do not even have to max the weapon upgrade skill. It can only have another low slot if it is compensated by a loss of 15% of powergrid, or the loss of its damage bonus, since another "free" low slot would allow it to outdamage all the other tier 3 cruisers at long range. Disclaimer: all what i wrote above can be shown using calculations but is in no way something that i support. This is only an illustration that balance does not mean "everybody should get as many slots as the others". Bonuses, slots, pg, cpu, drone bay, speed, agility, sensor strenght, sig radius, and basically every possible attribute is also a balancing factor. Originally by: Ravenge I belive another low slot and maybe a mid slot would balance things out, for the reduction of its drone bay. See above. What would be the point to nerf something blatantly overpowered if it was to replace it by something equally stupidly overpowered. Originally by: Ravenge Then hopefully the oversized plates with be sorted out, and then we can work on the cries of how poor all cruisers are.. then people can be reminded of how a one of the only decent cruisers we had got nerfed. Aye, you got it all right. If we "sort out" () the (oversized) plates, cruisers will be poor again. I totally agree with you. Hence, why i don't see why so many people want them to get "nerfed". Oh, noes, plates made us all "rethink" (yeah, right, that was deep thinking) our gank-setups. There is some tweaking needed for plates, however bringing confusion about that into this issue makes you look desesperate. In case you didn't notice (yet), bringing confusion didn't work well so far and probably won't work any better in the future. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. Edit: removed unfriendly comment, sorry. In Rust We Trust
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2005.09.05 02:21:00 - [1053] "And yes, I still maintain that the thorax is the drone boat, not the vexor. I've no idea where that idea came into effect. The thorax ship description says it is. Furthermore, the thorax has always had more drone space. But the vexor is the primary drone carrier because you guys say so? I'm not convinced." Probably because Vexor hull is given to Ishtar which is the tech.2 drone carrier, while Deimos is the tech.2 gunboat... so people want the tech.1 versions to match that ^^;; (oh and ftr i do consider Thorax without plate sufficiently fragile -.o it's just like discussed earlier, possibly no one really wants to see plates go from cruisers in general, because it'd mean other cruisers turn paper-thin as well, and again become unable to face anything bigger than them. So it's more convenient to demand drone murder...
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.05 02:25:00 - [1054] Originally by: Garreck Edited by: Garreck on 05/09/2005 02:05:20 Insane. Nobody is even considering how fragile the thorax is without plate. All of those beautiful calculations took into account battleship plate and small turrets, which is what makes the thorax so insanely powerful...not the drones. Yes, it will maintain a high damage output; but it will be far easier to put down without the plate. Nobody wants to even try it out. Thorax has to cross the full distance to its target to do damage. Thorax without plate is paper thin. It has high damage output to make up for both of those factors. And yes, I still maintain that the thorax is the drone boat, not the vexor. I've no idea where that idea came into effect. The thorax ship description says it is. Furthermore, the thorax has always had more drone space. But the vexor is the primary drone carrier because you guys say so? I'm not convinced. Garreck, its no point in trying to convice them that.. they are so set in their minds that the rax is uber because of the drones and fail to see that it is the plates that are the problem. Even when it slaps them in the face.. the rax isn't just affected by the oversized plates.. the claw is too. All we can hope for is that if the bay is reduced, us rax pilots get our 2 extra slots in return. (and for the record, i agree with what you say.)
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.05 02:25:00 - [1055] Originally by: Garreck Edited by: Garreck on 05/09/2005 02:05:20 Insane. Nobody is even considering how fragile the thorax is without plate. All of those beautiful calculations took into account battleship plate and small turrets, which is what makes the thorax so insanely powerful...not the drones. Yes, it will maintain a high damage output; but it will be far easier to put down without the plate. Nobody wants to even try it out. Thorax has to cross the full distance to its target to do damage. Thorax without plate is paper thin. It has high damage output to make up for both of those factors. And yes, I still maintain that the thorax is the drone boat, not the vexor. I've no idea where that idea came into effect. The thorax ship description says it is. Furthermore, the thorax has always had more drone space. But the vexor is the primary drone carrier because you guys say so? I'm not convinced. Garreck, its no point in trying to convice them that.. they are so set in their minds that the rax is uber because of the drones and fail to see that it is the plates that are the problem. Even when it slaps them in the face.. the rax isn't just affected by the oversized plates.. the claw is too. All we can hope for is that if the bay is reduced, us rax pilots get our 2 extra slots in return. (and for the record, i agree with what you say.)
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.05 02:25:00 - [1056] Originally by: Garreck Edited by: Garreck on 05/09/2005 02:05:20 Insane. Nobody is even considering how fragile the thorax is without plate. All of those beautiful calculations took into account battleship plate and small turrets, which is what makes the thorax so insanely powerful...not the drones. Yes, it will maintain a high damage output; but it will be far easier to put down without the plate. Nobody wants to even try it out. Thorax has to cross the full distance to its target to do damage. Thorax without plate is paper thin. It has high damage output to make up for both of those factors. And yes, I still maintain that the thorax is the drone boat, not the vexor. I've no idea where that idea came into effect. The thorax ship description says it is. Furthermore, the thorax has always had more drone space. But the vexor is the primary drone carrier because you guys say so? I'm not convinced. Garreck, its no point in trying to convice them that.. they are so set in their minds that the rax is uber because of the drones and fail to see that it is the plates that are the problem. Even when it slaps them in the face.. the rax isn't just affected by the oversized plates.. the claw is too. All we can hope for is that if the bay is reduced, us rax pilots get our 2 extra slots in return. (and for the record, i agree with what you say.)
Naughty Boy	Posted - 2005.09.05 02:36:00 - [1057] Edited by: Naughty Boy on 05/09/2005 02:44:24 Originally by: Garreck Insane. Nobody is even considering how fragile the thorax is without plate. All of those beautiful calculations took into account battleship plate and small turrets, which is what makes the thorax so insanely powerful...not the drones. Yes, it will maintain a high damage output; but it will be far easier to put down without the plate. Nobody wants to even try it out. Thorax has to cross the full distance to its target to do damage. Thorax without plate is paper thin. It has high damage output to make up for both of those factors. I don't know if you know about the "falsifiability" principle of Popper. I'm not willing to lecture people about it, but it would be something really interesting to use in this case. I'd like you to admit that you are wrong, but i can't find a way to do it. It is, either, because you are right, either, because you do not admit being wrong despite being wrong. Either, do i have to admit that you are right, either, i have to ask you which experiment would actually be able to determine that the drone bay is of adequate/inadequate size. Popper's principle says (sorry for the approximation, english is not my mother language) that if something cannot hypothetically be proven wrong, then it is not true either. I am ready to make the calculations, including reasonable random factors, on basis of an experiment that will be able to show which theory about the thorax (drone bay, plates) is actually the right one. You just have to describe the experiment. The catch is, and that's where things gets interesting, the issue of your experiment cannot be determined by another factor(s) that what we are discussing. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. --- I have the scientific evidence that some people can write but cannot read.
Naughty Boy Chronics of ordinary hate	Posted - 2005.09.05 02:36:00 - [1058] Edited by: Naughty Boy on 05/09/2005 02:44:24 Originally by: Garreck Insane. Nobody is even considering how fragile the thorax is without plate. All of those beautiful calculations took into account battleship plate and small turrets, which is what makes the thorax so insanely powerful...not the drones. Yes, it will maintain a high damage output; but it will be far easier to put down without the plate. Nobody wants to even try it out. Thorax has to cross the full distance to its target to do damage. Thorax without plate is paper thin. It has high damage output to make up for both of those factors. I don't know if you know about the "falsifiability" principle of Popper. I'm not willing to lecture people about it, but it would be something really interesting to use in this case. I'd like you to admit that you are wrong, but i can't find a way to do it. It is, either, because you are right, either, because you do not admit being wrong despite being wrong. Either, do i have to admit that you are right, either, i have to ask you which experiment would actually be able to determine that the drone bay is of adequate/inadequate size. Popper's principle says (sorry for the approximation, english is not my mother language) that if something cannot hypothetically be proven wrong, then it is not true either. I am ready to make the calculations, including reasonable random factors, on basis of an experiment that will be able to show which theory about the thorax (drone bay, plates) is actually the right one. You just have to describe the experiment. The catch is, and that's where things gets interesting, the issue of your experiment cannot be determined by another factor(s) that what we are discussing. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. In Rust We Trust
Naughty Boy Chronics of ordinary hate	Posted - 2005.09.05 02:36:00 - [1059] Edited by: Naughty Boy on 05/09/2005 02:44:24 Originally by: Garreck Insane. Nobody is even considering how fragile the thorax is without plate. All of those beautiful calculations took into account battleship plate and small turrets, which is what makes the thorax so insanely powerful...not the drones. Yes, it will maintain a high damage output; but it will be far easier to put down without the plate. Nobody wants to even try it out. Thorax has to cross the full distance to its target to do damage. Thorax without plate is paper thin. It has high damage output to make up for both of those factors. I don't know if you know about the "falsifiability" principle of Popper. I'm not willing to lecture people about it, but it would be something really interesting to use in this case. I'd like you to admit that you are wrong, but i can't find a way to do it. It is, either, because you are right, either, because you do not admit being wrong despite being wrong. Either, do i have to admit that you are right, either, i have to ask you which experiment would actually be able to determine that the drone bay is of adequate/inadequate size. Popper's principle says (sorry for the approximation, english is not my mother language) that if something cannot hypothetically be proven wrong, then it is not true either. I am ready to make the calculations, including reasonable random factors, on basis of an experiment that will be able to show which theory about the thorax (drone bay, plates) is actually the right one. You just have to describe the experiment. The catch is, and that's where things gets interesting, the issue of your experiment cannot be determined by another factor(s) that what we are discussing. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. In Rust We Trust
Naughty Boy	Posted - 2005.09.05 02:43:00 - [1060] Originally by: Ravenge Garreck, its no point in trying to convice them that.. they are so set in their minds that the rax is uber because of the drones and fail to see that it is the plates that are the problem. Even when it slaps them in the face.. the rax isn't just affected by the oversized plates.. the claw is too. You didn't actually do anything to convince anybody, how could we be convinced ? I'm sorry, but jou just keep repeating that without any kind of reasoning to back you up, and i find this highly disturbing. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. --- I have the scientific evidence that some people can write but cannot read.
Naughty Boy Chronics of ordinary hate	Posted - 2005.09.05 02:43:00 - [1061] Originally by: Ravenge Garreck, its no point in trying to convice them that.. they are so set in their minds that the rax is uber because of the drones and fail to see that it is the plates that are the problem. Even when it slaps them in the face.. the rax isn't just affected by the oversized plates.. the claw is too. You didn't actually do anything to convince anybody, how could we be convinced ? I'm sorry, but jou just keep repeating that without any kind of reasoning to back you up, and i find this highly disturbing. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. In Rust We Trust
Naughty Boy Chronics of ordinary hate	Posted - 2005.09.05 02:43:00 - [1062] Originally by: Ravenge Garreck, its no point in trying to convice them that.. they are so set in their minds that the rax is uber because of the drones and fail to see that it is the plates that are the problem. Even when it slaps them in the face.. the rax isn't just affected by the oversized plates.. the claw is too. You didn't actually do anything to convince anybody, how could we be convinced ? I'm sorry, but jou just keep repeating that without any kind of reasoning to back you up, and i find this highly disturbing. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. In Rust We Trust
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.05 03:17:00 - [1063] Originally by: Naughty Boy You didn't actually do anything to convince anybody, how could we be convinced ? I'm sorry, but jou just keep repeating that without any kind of reasoning to back you up, and i find this highly disturbing. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. I'm sorry, if lack the basic understand that oversized plates are the problem.. i guess that you do indeed have evidence that some people can write but can read.. we only have to look up many of your posts.. hmmm now thats highly disturbing.
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.05 03:17:00 - [1064] Originally by: Naughty Boy You didn't actually do anything to convince anybody, how could we be convinced ? I'm sorry, but jou just keep repeating that without any kind of reasoning to back you up, and i find this highly disturbing. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. I'm sorry, if lack the basic understand that oversized plates are the problem.. i guess that you do indeed have evidence that some people can write but can read.. we only have to look up many of your posts.. hmmm now thats highly disturbing.
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.05 03:17:00 - [1065] Originally by: Naughty Boy You didn't actually do anything to convince anybody, how could we be convinced ? I'm sorry, but jou just keep repeating that without any kind of reasoning to back you up, and i find this highly disturbing. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. I'm sorry, if lack the basic understand that oversized plates are the problem.. i guess that you do indeed have evidence that some people can write but can read.. we only have to look up many of your posts.. hmmm now thats highly disturbing.
Naughty Boy	Posted - 2005.09.05 03:27:00 - [1066] Originally by: Ravenge I'm sorry, if lack the basic understand that oversized plates are the problem.. i guess that you do indeed have evidence that some people can write but can read.. we only have to look up many of your posts.. hmmm now thats highly disturbing. What exactly do i have to read, or where exactly do you prove your point ? A link, or even a post number will be enough, thank you. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. --- I have the scientific evidence that some people can write but cannot read.
Naughty Boy Chronics of ordinary hate	Posted - 2005.09.05 03:27:00 - [1067] Originally by: Ravenge I'm sorry, if lack the basic understand that oversized plates are the problem.. i guess that you do indeed have evidence that some people can write but can read.. we only have to look up many of your posts.. hmmm now thats highly disturbing. What exactly do i have to read, or where exactly do you prove your point ? A link, or even a post number will be enough, thank you. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. In Rust We Trust
Naughty Boy Chronics of ordinary hate	Posted - 2005.09.05 03:27:00 - [1068] Originally by: Ravenge I'm sorry, if lack the basic understand that oversized plates are the problem.. i guess that you do indeed have evidence that some people can write but can read.. we only have to look up many of your posts.. hmmm now thats highly disturbing. What exactly do i have to read, or where exactly do you prove your point ? A link, or even a post number will be enough, thank you. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. In Rust We Trust
Stuart Price	Posted - 2005.09.05 04:04:00 - [1069] Smartbomb, jammers. Oh noes. That 'overpowered' thorax just got totally pwned. Think outside the box. Every ship has strengths, for every strength there is a counter. I personally feel that Moa's and Rupture's are vastly underrated. I'd be just as happy to take one of those into combat as a Thorax. People take the 'wow this 1337 setup pwnz0rs everything' threads as gospel. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier"
Stuart Price Caldari Mercatoris Technologies	Posted - 2005.09.05 04:04:00 - [1070] Smartbomb, jammers. Oh noes. That 'overpowered' thorax just got totally pwned. Think outside the box. Every ship has strengths, for every strength there is a counter. I personally feel that Moa's and Rupture's are vastly underrated. I'd be just as happy to take one of those into combat as a Thorax. People take the 'wow this 1337 setup pwnz0rs everything' threads as gospel. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier"
Stuart Price Caldari Mercatoris Technologies	Posted - 2005.09.05 04:04:00 - [1071] Smartbomb, jammers. Oh noes. That 'overpowered' thorax just got totally pwned. Think outside the box. Every ship has strengths, for every strength there is a counter. I personally feel that Moa's and Rupture's are vastly underrated. I'd be just as happy to take one of those into combat as a Thorax. People take the 'wow this 1337 setup pwnz0rs everything' threads as gospel. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier"
ELECTR0FREAK	Posted - 2005.09.05 04:05:00 - [1072] Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 05/09/2005 04:13:02 Please explain to me how a Thorax without a plate is any weaker than any OTHER cruiser without a plate? It has 2025 HP compared to the average 2050 that other lvl 3 Cruisers have. Not to mention it does the majority of its damage through its drones and thus can easily use those 5 low slots for tanking while still having ridiculous damage output. The foundation of your arguement is built upon sand. Edit- And sorry Stuart bud, a medium smartbomb will take over 40 seconds to kill the drones. During that time the drones can do over 6800 points of damage to the target. And Jammers don't work if the Thorax has its drones attack you before you jam it. The problem with the Thorax is that it has way too many advantages for its own good. 8 Heavy drones and the rampant use of 1600mm plates are the reason. -Electrofreak Discoverer of the Missile Damage Formula
ELECTR0FREAK Eye of God	Posted - 2005.09.05 04:05:00 - [1073] Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 05/09/2005 04:13:02 Please explain to me how a Thorax without a plate is any weaker than any OTHER cruiser without a plate? It has 2025 HP compared to the average 2050 that other lvl 3 Cruisers have. Not to mention it does the majority of its damage through its drones and thus can easily use those 5 low slots for tanking while still having ridiculous damage output. The foundation of your arguement is built upon sand. Edit- And sorry Stuart bud, a medium smartbomb will take over 40 seconds to kill the drones. During that time the drones can do over 6800 points of damage to the target. And Jammers don't work if the Thorax has its drones attack you before you jam it. The problem with the Thorax is that it has way too many advantages for its own good. 8 Heavy drones and the rampant use of 1600mm plates are the reason. Discoverer of the Missile Damage Formula
ELECTR0FREAK Eye of God	Posted - 2005.09.05 04:05:00 - [1074] Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 05/09/2005 04:13:02 Please explain to me how a Thorax without a plate is any weaker than any OTHER cruiser without a plate? It has 2025 HP compared to the average 2050 that other lvl 3 Cruisers have. Not to mention it does the majority of its damage through its drones and thus can easily use those 5 low slots for tanking while still having ridiculous damage output. The foundation of your arguement is built upon sand. Edit- And sorry Stuart bud, a medium smartbomb will take over 40 seconds to kill the drones. During that time the drones can do over 6800 points of damage to the target. And Jammers don't work if the Thorax has its drones attack you before you jam it. The problem with the Thorax is that it has way too many advantages for its own good. 8 Heavy drones and the rampant use of 1600mm plates are the reason. Discoverer of the Missile Damage Formula
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.05 13:21:00 - [1075] Originally by: Naughty Boy What exactly do i have to read, or where exactly do you prove your point ? A link, or even a post number will be enough, thank you. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. There are plenty of posts that illustrate the oversized plate problem and several videos.. some have been brought up in this very thread.. but you just ignored them, in favour of trying to shout down other post... so follow your own siggys advice and do some reading to find them. Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 05/09/2005 04:13:02 Please explain to me how a Thorax without a plate is any weaker than any OTHER cruiser without a plate? It has 2025 HP compared to the average 2050 that other lvl 3 Cruisers have. Not to mention it does the majority of its damage through its drones and thus can easily use those 5 low slots for tanking while still having ridiculous damage output. Maybe its because it has the lowest amount of slots then eany other tier 3 cruiser, could be that the guns intended for it are too cap hungry and intensive and it could be that since its supposed to be the ulitmate in close range cruisers, that it can't tank for anything. and so on.. so i ask you.. if the drone bay was reduced, would it be acceptable for the rax to get 2 extra slots, as that would bring it inline with the maller.
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.05 13:21:00 - [1076] Originally by: Naughty Boy What exactly do i have to read, or where exactly do you prove your point ? A link, or even a post number will be enough, thank you. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. There are plenty of posts that illustrate the oversized plate problem and several videos.. some have been brought up in this very thread.. but you just ignored them, in favour of trying to shout down other post... so follow your own siggys advice and do some reading to find them. Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 05/09/2005 04:13:02 Please explain to me how a Thorax without a plate is any weaker than any OTHER cruiser without a plate? It has 2025 HP compared to the average 2050 that other lvl 3 Cruisers have. Not to mention it does the majority of its damage through its drones and thus can easily use those 5 low slots for tanking while still having ridiculous damage output. Maybe its because it has the lowest amount of slots then eany other tier 3 cruiser, could be that the guns intended for it are too cap hungry and intensive and it could be that since its supposed to be the ulitmate in close range cruisers, that it can't tank for anything. and so on.. so i ask you.. if the drone bay was reduced, would it be acceptable for the rax to get 2 extra slots, as that would bring it inline with the maller.
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.05 13:21:00 - [1077] Originally by: Naughty Boy What exactly do i have to read, or where exactly do you prove your point ? A link, or even a post number will be enough, thank you. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. There are plenty of posts that illustrate the oversized plate problem and several videos.. some have been brought up in this very thread.. but you just ignored them, in favour of trying to shout down other post... so follow your own siggys advice and do some reading to find them. Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 05/09/2005 04:13:02 Please explain to me how a Thorax without a plate is any weaker than any OTHER cruiser without a plate? It has 2025 HP compared to the average 2050 that other lvl 3 Cruisers have. Not to mention it does the majority of its damage through its drones and thus can easily use those 5 low slots for tanking while still having ridiculous damage output. Maybe its because it has the lowest amount of slots then eany other tier 3 cruiser, could be that the guns intended for it are too cap hungry and intensive and it could be that since its supposed to be the ulitmate in close range cruisers, that it can't tank for anything. and so on.. so i ask you.. if the drone bay was reduced, would it be acceptable for the rax to get 2 extra slots, as that would bring it inline with the maller.
Sariyah	Posted - 2005.09.05 15:36:00 - [1078] Originally by: Naughty Boy It can only have another low slot if it is compensated by a loss of 15% of powergrid so it can fit another rcu 2 to be able to fit it with med guns right? geez. - DISCLAIMER: Any views or opinions presented anywhere in this post are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of HUN Corp or Imperium unless otherwise specifically stated.
Sariyah Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2005.09.05 15:36:00 - [1079] Originally by: Naughty Boy It can only have another low slot if it is compensated by a loss of 15% of powergrid so it can fit another rcu 2 to be able to fit it with med guns right? geez. - DISCLAIMER: Any views or opinions presented anywhere in this post are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of HUN Corp or ERA unless otherwise specifically stated.
Sariyah Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2005.09.05 15:36:00 - [1080] Originally by: Naughty Boy It can only have another low slot if it is compensated by a loss of 15% of powergrid so it can fit another rcu 2 to be able to fit it with med guns right? geez. - DISCLAIMER: Any views or opinions presented anywhere in this post are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of HUN Corp or ERA unless otherwise specifically stated.

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