Does it seem likely to anyone else that the OP bought his character? As several people have pointed out, the odds of a 4-5 year vet not knowing about high-sec ganking and yet still working up to owning a Golem worth 3b are very slim. I sometimes wonder if the the character bizarre isn't hurting more than it helps.

It is the function of that particular ship to do such a thing. Now, you literally will not survive your trip if you take loads like that between market hubs. Your death is next to certain.

Fitting or carrying high value items makes you a target, don't like it? then don't do it.


And your point is?


The only problem I see is that the OP expected to be immune from the actions of other players in an open ended PvP multiplayer game. BTW 5x fitted tier 3 battle cruisers comes out at the best part of 3/4 billion Isk if not more, so not exactly cheap either.


Coordinating a 5 player gank takes a considerable amount of effort, not a little.

I can pretty much guarantee that the gank operation took a fair amount of prior planning, which involved ship scanning potential targets, making sure that all the required pilots were in the right place, with the right equipment, at the right time to carry the operation off without a hitch, all of which are effort.

Even after all the effort put into the planning and execution the loot fairy can still crap on gankers from a great height, in this case they took the risk and got little or no reward for their efforts, are they whining about risk vs reward? The answer is no, because next time the loot fairy may well smile upon them with lots and lots of shiny stuff.

Alternatively, maybe it's mechanics are not well understood by the masses.

Your conclusion that it is dull and unprofitable is not only a forgone conclusion, it does not fit the facts presented in this thread via killmail.

It is the function of that particular ship to do such a thing. Now, you literally will not survive your trip if you take loads like that between market hubs. Your death is next to certain.



That is not stupidity. That is a game "feature". Make a ship that can hall all that stuff at once to save time and generate wealth, and then if you do do it, you are "stupid".

IOW, not easy. Also, not profitable since that would mean that all the people doing it in the past (who do understand the mechanics) would flock to itGǪ but instead, it's very very rare.

Lolwut?

I move comparable amounts between hubs on a routine basis without ever getting ganked.

How can this be?

That does not mean that it is not easy, it could just as easily mean that people are simply having trouble understanding Concord mechanics.

Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. Its like transporting 10 billion in gold in the back of a truck with an open sided trailer through the heart of Bagdad with no armed guards.

Its that stupid.

Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. Its like transporting 10 billion in gold in the back of a truck with an open sided trailer through the heart of Bagdad with no armed guards.

Its that stupid.

Not in a freighter loaded to the brim and starting in Jita I imagine.

No it is more like Arabs scanning your truck to see how much cash you have in your wallet. Ramming you with a bulldozer at a stoplight and mugging you. That is a somewhat more accurate analogy.

No it is more like Arabs scanning your truck to see how much cash you have in your wallet. Ramming you with a bulldozer at a stoplight and mugging you. That is a somewhat more accurate analogy.

GǪwhich means it's not easy.

Because they are going to do that to a waggon full of carrots.

It doesnt matter how you try to word it, stuffing 10 billion into the hold of a rookie ship is a stupid thing to do.

Actually no. Not being sure of how exactly concord works, has nothing to do with how easy/hard the act of ganking and profiting from that ganking is. It is just ballyhoo functioning as a deterrent.

Actually no.

Not being sure of how exactly concord works, has nothing to do with how easy/hard the act of ganking and profiting from that ganking is

No one seems to be talking about 10b in the hold of a rookie ship here, unless I missed something.

No one seems to be talking about 10b in the hold of a rookie ship here, unless I missed something.

No one seems to be talking about 10b in the hold of a rookie ship here, unless I missed something.

Hang on a second... logical disconnect here.
So, you WORKED your way into a Golem (not cheap, not easy skill-wise), but you don't know anything about suicide ganking?!?!
Really?
0/10 for too-obvious of a troll.

No? So it's not a case of GÇ£people are simply having troubleGÇ¥ with the mechanics (i.e. not that easy after all)?
Then why is it so rare?.

Or dont and suffer the conciquences of your stupidity.

It is the function of that particular ship to do such a thing. Now, you literally will not survive your trip if you take loads like that between market hubs. Your death is next to certain.

and the nullbears keep whining about hi-sec being to safe...

You can't read then, I seem to have typed freighter.

You carefully expunged-ácut before a word

I understand where the op is coming from. I dont feel hi-sec should be completely safe and people should still have the ability to gank somone out of revenge or spite, but I dont feel it should be profitable.

I say if you want to gank people thats fine but it should cost you and anyone involved. This seemed to worked well for the miners. Macks seem still be on the profit list but rifter ganks have fallen off substantially. WHY? No profit in it.


People shouldnt be afraid to undock thier big shiny ships to play the game. Something needs to be in place to remove the profit margin for using high dps ships with no effort put in to them to kill ships people have worked hard to obtain.

Take away the profit and you remove 90% of the problem.

Here, let me help.

See, we started here:



This is a kill of a rookie ship with 10 billion in melted nanoribbons in its hold.

To which YOU directly responded:



Implying one or more of the following:

1. You believe the function of a rookie ship is to transport 10 billion in nanoribbons.
2. You're incapable of discerning a rookie ship from a ship more suited to transporting 10 billion in nanoribbons.
3. You responded with a non sequitur, hoping everyone else would fail to notice that it was a rookie ship.

Actually no. Not being sure of how exactly concord works, has nothing to do with how easy/hard the act of ganking and profiting from that ganking is. It just means the idea of concord is ballyhoo functioning as a deterrent, without actually being one in physicality.

I didn't click on it.

The op is about Golem and I am referring to ships that have a specific function and role in the game. I am not discussing rookie ships.