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Deerin
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
60
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Posted - 2013.03.21 10:31:00 -
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I'll try to get this through with as low amount of spoilers as possible.
Last week, one of the dust players released a video, which consisted of a gun fight on Caldari Prime with a rather "unique" background skydome.
As if the outcome of this battle is already decided.
PLEASE don't make this a scripted event. I'll try to be there and do everything in my power to help my Gallantean brothers to get rid of that ugly ship in orbit....and I'm sure that my amarrian counterparts will try the exact opposite. So pleaselet us fight the fight.
I have no idea how you are going to run the event but PLEASE make sure the outcome is influenceable by player actions. |
Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
93
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Posted - 2013.03.21 15:06:00 -
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They are already well aware of this. The leaked video of the environment in Dust is, in my opinion, them testing out skybox/environment swapping. This is not going to be a scripted event (though by most indications there is a high chance of one outcome happening over the others) so don't get your panties in a twist. :) |
Aquila Shadow
Midnight Security Consulting
103
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Posted - 2013.03.21 15:12:00 -
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Even if its not a scripted event the Caldari are going to be ridiculously outnumbered in this fight as the majority of people who would support the Titan are either involved in FW and/or have a really low Gallente Federation sec status meaning that they will be shot at by the OP police rats. Meanwhile on the Gallente side they will have all the Gallente RPers plus a massive amount of FDU pilots plus whatever Matari pilots have the time/sec status to access Luminaire plus all the random scrubs that live in Gallente space coming in screaming "FOR THE FEDERATION". Add on top of that the fact that RP wise the Caldari cant cyno in any capital class ships without knocking out the CONCORD network again were as the Federation can jump in as many capital ships as they want.
Lets face it, short of a major null-sec alliance or two coming to the aid of the Caldari you will all be reading how the Federation gloriously re-took Caldari Prime from the evil provists in the next news article. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "Let Vigilance Be Your Sword" |
Rekkr Thorgard
Strategic Tactics And Recon Academy Strategic Tactics And Recon Corporate Alliance
2
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Posted - 2013.03.21 15:19:00 -
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Aquila Shadow wrote:Even if its not a scripted event the Caldari are going to be ridiculously outnumbered in this fight as the majority of people who would support the Titan are either involved in FW and/or have a really low Gallente Federation sec status meaning that they will be shot at by the OP police rats. Meanwhile on the Gallente side they will have all the Gallente RPers plus a massive amount of FDU pilots plus whatever Matari pilots have the time/sec status to access Luminaire plus all the random scrubs that live in Gallente space coming in screaming "FOR THE FEDERATION". Add on top of that the fact that RP wise the Caldari cant cyno in any capital class ships without knocking out the CONCORD network again were as the Federation can jump in as many capital ships as they want.
Lets face it, short of a major null-sec alliance or two coming to the aid of the Caldari you will all be reading how the Federation gloriously re-took Caldari Prime from the evil provists in the next news article.
Pretty much; there's no meaningful difference between a Gallente scripted victory and planning an event where the majority of Caldari can't participate. |
Karaena Eli Hakoke
Caldari Navy Squadron 433
10
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Posted - 2013.03.21 17:25:00 -
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One thing that I am disappointed with, is the time the event will take place.
At 17:00 EVE, I am unavailable due to work and most people on the US Eastern TZ will also be at work. It feels that again such a big event focuses on EU TZ players, which is sad for us NA players.
Also, this timing doesn't only affect the EVE Online event, but the Dust 514 event also, there will be a lot of Dust mercenaries that won't be part of the event due to RL.
I am disappointed because there were claims that CCP would work in making an effort in bringing more of these events to a broader audience (EU+US TZ). In such a monumental event, which can change the whole political landscape in Empire space, it would have been logical to push the time at around 00:00 EVE, especially since the day after the current timing of the event is a Saturday. Unless people had something planned, they would show up, even at midnight, 1:00 AM or even 2:00 AM local times (for the EU TZ) while allowing a very good portion of the US TZ to join in. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1419
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Posted - 2013.03.21 17:53:00 -
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Karaena Eli Hakoke wrote:One thing that I am disappointed with, is the time the event will take place.
At 17:00 EVE, I am unavailable due to work and most people on the US Eastern TZ will also be at work. It feels that again such a big event focuses on EU TZ players, which is sad for us NA players.
Also, this timing doesn't only affect the EVE Online event, but the Dust 514 event also, there will be a lot of Dust mercenaries that won't be part of the event due to RL.
I am disappointed because there were claims that CCP would work in making an effort in bringing more of these events to a broader audience (EU+US TZ). In such a monumental event, which can change the whole political landscape in Empire space, it would have been logical to push the time at around 00:00 EVE, especially since the day after the current timing of the event is a Saturday. Unless people had something planned, they would show up, even at midnight, 1:00 AM or even 2:00 AM local times (for the EU TZ) while allowing a very good portion of the US TZ to join in.
It would be extremely difficult to get good developer presence at midnight on a Friday. CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
65
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Posted - 2013.03.21 18:01:00 -
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And Saturday? |
Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Kaltiovon
309
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Posted - 2013.03.21 18:04:00 -
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I realize that the timing cuts out alot of people, but for me it couldn't be more perfect really. I work 3:00 PM to 11:30 PM [CMT] and with these events taking place in the EU afternoon and CMT morning time I'm actually able to get to it before I have to go to work. I have to echo the concerns however about it being a scripted Gallentee victory, though I don't really expect much else unfortunately given the circumstances.
I'll be there regardless :D The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
918
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Posted - 2013.03.21 18:14:00 -
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As a EU player i can comfort those US guys ... its in the late afternoon for a lot of us on a friday so besides schoolkids and people without a job most of us will be at work looking at our clock and praying that when we get home there at least is some form of the event still going on.
I too would have liked it at least a few hours later but it is as it is , if CCP feels they can deliver a better ''live event'' by placing it at the current time then so be it.Those who can make it , enjoy the show and don't forget to make some vids.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1172
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Posted - 2013.03.21 20:41:00 -
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Rekkr Thorgard wrote:Pretty much; there's no meaningful difference between a Gallente scripted victory and planning an event where the majority of Caldari can't participate.
We should be used to that by now, though.
EvE is like prison.-á It's a place when bad people go to learn how to become even worse people. |
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Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
13
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Posted - 2013.03.21 20:45:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Karaena Eli Hakoke wrote:One thing that I am disappointed with, is the time the event will take place.
At 17:00 EVE, I am unavailable due to work and most people on the US Eastern TZ will also be at work. It feels that again such a big event focuses on EU TZ players, which is sad for us NA players.
Also, this timing doesn't only affect the EVE Online event, but the Dust 514 event also, there will be a lot of Dust mercenaries that won't be part of the event due to RL.
I am disappointed because there were claims that CCP would work in making an effort in bringing more of these events to a broader audience (EU+US TZ). In such a monumental event, which can change the whole political landscape in Empire space, it would have been logical to push the time at around 00:00 EVE, especially since the day after the current timing of the event is a Saturday. Unless people had something planned, they would show up, even at midnight, 1:00 AM or even 2:00 AM local times (for the EU TZ) while allowing a very good portion of the US TZ to join in. It would be extremely difficult to get good developer presence at midnight on a Friday.
translation: we intend for the gallente to take back caldari prime. CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1172
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Posted - 2013.03.21 20:51:00 -
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It's pretty sad that everyone pretty much knows this has become a scripted event and yet they continue anyway.
So here is my thought:
Hey Gallente pilots, want to really stir up the poop-pot in a big way?
Withdraw. Go home. Stop fighting.
BREAK THE SCRIPT!
Watch as CCP desperately struggles to lower the Titan down to one hit point for the one noob Velator to shoot it down with his civilian hybrid cannon. Watch as they try to pull some kind of narrative event out of their butt cracks to justify crashing the Titan into the planet no matter what the players do.
A full cease-fire from Gallente capsuleers would take such a colossal dump in CCP's Bowl of Scripties that you'd actually have something truly brag-worthy to talk about later. Because riding a rail-shooter to a ouji-board victory sure as heck isn't. EvE is like prison.-á It's a place when bad people go to learn how to become even worse people. |
Sobach
Fourth Circle
83
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Posted - 2013.03.21 21:28:00 -
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Yea, it'd totally be the opposite of how the titan got there in the first place!
oh wait... |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1718
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Posted - 2013.03.21 23:12:00 -
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Ive said it in other threads, and I'll say it here: A crashed Titan may not equal Gallente victory. The Caldari could have replacement Titans. For all we know the Gallente will have to take out 6 Titans to get victory. If they only take out 5, CCP gets 5 districts with their crashed Titan background and Caldari Prime remains in Caldari hands. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Eliniale
co-operative resource extraction
127
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Posted - 2013.03.21 23:30:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Ive said it in other threads, and I'll say it here: A crashed Titan may not equal Gallente victory. The Caldari could have replacement Titans. For all we know the Gallente will have to take out 6 Titans to get victory. If they only take out 5, CCP gets 5 districts with their crashed Titan background and Caldari Prime remains in Caldari hands.
Who's to say they haven't made a backgroudn with a gallente titan? :D System ideas: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191928&find=unread |
Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
153
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Posted - 2013.03.22 00:21:00 -
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To be perfectly honest. The Gallente should have just as many reasons to protect that titan as the Caldari (though for the sake of the Gallente on the planet rather than any Caldari). An object that size crashing into the planet would kill countless thousands just from the impact, and the aftermath of the collision would have global climate consequences, and on a world that is already marginal, could very well render it uninhabitable.
Remember, there was a chronical on titan being built around a planet, and it ****** up the climate just by its effect on the tides from ORBIT. EVERYONE has a reason to want to keep that ship as far away from Caldari Prime as possible. |
Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Kaltiovon
316
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Posted - 2013.03.22 00:27:00 -
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Xindi Kraid wrote:To be perfectly honest. The Gallente should have just as many reasons to protect that titan as the Caldari (though for the sake of the Gallente on the planet rather than any Caldari). An object that size crashing into the planet would kill countless thousands just from the impact, and the aftermath of the collision would have global climate consequences, and on a world that is already marginal, could very well render it uninhabitable.
Remember, there was a chronical on titan being built around a planet, and it ****** up the climate just by its effect on the tides from ORBIT. EVERYONE has a reason to want to keep that ship as far away from Caldari Prime as possible.
That Chronical was about the first Titans which were giganmormous and are no longer in active service I believe. However your certainly right about the disastrous side affect if one were to smash into the planet. Especially if it hits a populace area. The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
Sobach
Fourth Circle
83
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Posted - 2013.03.22 00:39:00 -
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Simon Louvaki wrote:[quote=Xindi Kraid]That Chronical was about the first Titans which were giganmormous and are no longer in active service I believe.
Actually, if you read the news, two Solteur titans were part of the Federation's recent joint exercise in Algogile. |
Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
154
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Posted - 2013.03.22 00:41:00 -
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Yes, I'll be honest, I don't know how modern titans compare to the originals, but they are still quite large. |
Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Kaltiovon
316
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Posted - 2013.03.22 00:42:00 -
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Sobach wrote:Simon Louvaki wrote:[quote=Xindi Kraid]That Chronical was about the first Titans which were giganmormous and are no longer in active service I believe. Actually, if you read the news, two Solteur titans were part of the Federation's recent joint exercise in Algogile.
Hmm, must have missed that one. Consider me corrected! The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
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Helene Chenal
Offensive Upholder
2
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Posted - 2013.03.22 00:55:00 -
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Been waiting for this for years, but I guess CCP hasn't discovered America yet. |
Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
154
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Posted - 2013.03.22 02:02:00 -
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Won't anyone please think of the Canadians? |
Pancake King
Unreal Realities
22
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Posted - 2013.03.22 02:11:00 -
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Helene Chenal wrote:Been waiting for this for years, but I guess CCP hasn't discovered America yet.
DT is in the middle of my prime time gaming EVERY DAY. When America is happy to put up with that, I'll happily support you getting a better bite of the cherry for events. But as we have NO access to events, DT interrupted nights EVERY night (if you think it's not a big deal, try scanning down a WH chain with DT in the middle of it) and ****** lag, I think I'll go with a 'tough luck' on this one.
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Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
15
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Posted - 2013.03.22 02:31:00 -
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well, they had to put DT somewhere....... CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |
Ayuren Aakiwa
Wyvern Operations
58
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Posted - 2013.03.22 02:41:00 -
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I just hope there is something done to the faction navies/police. So all of us low sec dwelling squids can come fight the good fight pew pew 24/7 |
Sabriz Adoudel
Resurgent Threat
139
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Posted - 2013.03.22 03:27:00 -
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Great, now you've got me asking myself the question - what damage would a Titan cause if it fell into a sea?
SPOILER ALERT: THE EMPYREAN AGE
I can see many scenarios in my mind that the Caldari would call victory that would involve the Titan getting popped. Remember how the Caldari Prime conflict was started - by Templis Dragonaurs posing as Gallenteans and inflicting moderate military losses upon the Caldari forces there. An apparent Gallente military victory does not mean a defeat for Heth. '... you cannot reason with the mining bots, you cannot negotiate with them, you can only bring them judgement in the form of Navy Antimatter, turn their Mackinaws to salvage and dust, smartbomb their pods, and burn their Mining Link implants with sweet incense...'- The Gospel according to St James 315 |
Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
155
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:29:00 -
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Can someone please kill that bastard already? Let a respectable Caldari citizen take over. |
Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems The Fourth District
140
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:45:00 -
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Ayuren Aakiwa wrote:I just hope there is something done to the faction navies/police. So all of us low sec dwelling squids can come fight the good fight
It has been stated there will not be any adjustments to in space mechanics.
CCP Falcon wrote:To clear up the most common question:
It's not physically possible to just "turn off" factional warfare NPCs, or the status of a system as a Factional Warfare system. Whether or not players decide they want to depart from the militia for a few days or not is entirely their own choice.
Link Lai Dai Infinity Systems |
William Loire
Forced Penetration Hopeless Addiction
28
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:49:00 -
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Xindi Kraid wrote:Can someone please kill that bastard already? Let a respectable Caldari citizen take over.
Or we could return to the good old days when the State's loose governance by multiple mega corporations was a strikingly refreshing concept instead of continuing this space fascist trope. |
Xray Nova
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:57:00 -
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162 gank thrashers ready to go. buy them up for just ~3M each in the package. Available on public contract now right there in Luminaire.
500M total.
Located in Luminaire III (Astrin) - Moon 1 - Duvolle Laboratories Factory
Set yourself up for ganking pods and frigates, or just a wolfpack of cheap arty dessies to take down cruisers and above. This is a very effective fit in lowsec for catching frigates and pods on gates. Should be alot of fun during the live event :)
1 x LOT of: 162 x Thrasher 1,134 x 280mm Howitzer Artillery I 486 x Sensor Booster I 486 x Scan Resolution Script 162 x Warp Disruptor I 324 x Gyrostabilizer I 100,000 x EMP S 100,000 x Phased Plasma S
Price for the LOT: 500M obo. works out to 3.08M per fit thrasher. Ships are currently packaged for shipment. NOT PREFIT
you have enough to make all of them a triple-sebo for ultra-fast lock, or dual-sebo w/long point |
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