Because drones can be all destroyed, and because turrets and drones complement each others, and don't fight from the same high slots.

50/50 high slot split = bad

50/50 drone / turrets = awesome

yeah but does that make sense that they have to fight for all the low slots for damage modifiers? You have to pick between so-so turret or so-so drone dps. And the fact that drones can be destroyed only makes me think it'd make more sense to have dedicated drone boats with more than 5 drones--1 drone destroyed out of 5 = 20% damage loss. 1 drone destroyed out of 10 = 10% damage loss. I think there's a clear winner there.

Ships used to do that in the past, then, they removed extra drones in favor of drone dps bonuses. Why ? server load is why.

And now, with the server side drone handling changes (handled as single entity when on same target), plus beefier hamsters, it's no long an issue. So bring the drone swarm back.

+1 to this. And if it *is* a server-side lag issue, just limit the amount of "true" drone ships capable of handling more than 5. Make Vexor/Myrm/Domi the only ships capable of handling more than 5. Maybe 6, 8, 10 respectively. That'd certainly go a long way in limiting "the swarm" (of server requests). True drone-only dps cruiser, BC, and BS niche would be filled. I mean, every other primary-damage type has a dedicated ship or two--including outliers like neuting and webbing or other more mainstream ewar. And I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the other empires catch up and give us a TD, damp, and TP BS (Tech 2 Blops? Faction?).

I thought the problem with bee swarms was client lag and not server lag. I guess you can just turn off drone brackets, but sometimes you actually do want to target drones, and having them on overview is just....lol. Just lol.

What's wrong with having an overview tab for drones?

More variety in ships would be great, Vexor, Myrm and Domi are excellent candidates for pure drone boats with no guns, even if that's done with modules taking the place of turret slots. Just give us higher drone count sub caps <3 drones.

What's wrong with having an overview tab for drones?

More variety in ships would be great, Vexor, Myrm and Domi are excellent candidates for pure drone boats with no guns, even if that's done with modules taking the place of turret slots. Just give us higher drone count sub caps <3 drones.

Can any of you give some practical reasons why exactly do you want to break for example those three wonderful, versatile ships by removing their turrets?

As you know, currently you have the choice to not fit any weapons. Your suggestion reduces variety.

+1 to this. And if it *is* a server-side lag issue, just limit the amount of "true" drone ships capable of handling more than 5. Make Vexor/Myrm/Domi the only ships capable of handling more than 5. Maybe 6, 8, 10 respectively. That'd certainly go a long way in limiting "the swarm" (of server requests). True drone-only dps cruiser, BC, and BS niche would be filled. I mean, every other primary-damage type has a dedicated ship or two--including outliers like neuting and webbing or other more mainstream ewar. And I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the other empires catch up and give us a TD, damp, and TP BS (Tech 2 Blops? Faction?).

This thread is a waste of time. YOU CANNOT ASK FOR ROLE BONUSES FOR INDIVIDUAL T1 SHIPS. T1 ships are designed to be general purpose, giving them a role bonus goes ENTIRELY against that, and if you do you have to make up some bullshit excuse for why the domi is so special that no other bs can use Drone Control Units. Not going to happen, never should happen.

Further your guys fixation with drones is completely wasted, considering drones are easily the worst weapon system for pvp. They have the longest lag between fire and application of damage if you use normal combat drones, or if you go for sentries you are now weaponless if you have to warp off. Additionally, there is no pilot skill in using drones, which is not an advantage, it's a disadvantage. You can't mitigate transversal to improve the quality of your hits, you just have to hope your drones are landing good hits (they usually aren't, unless they are lights).

Furthermore, it's a stretch to even call drone boats split weapon ships. In most cases they are exclusively bonused to drone damage and have unbonused turret slots, so you're not competing with your highslots or lowslots. In the cases of where their bonuses are split, the ships are FINE. There is no need to make some random drone only spaceship. Actually, go ahead. I think it will actually adequately educate you on why a ship such as that would really actually just suck.