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saltrock0000
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Posted - 2013.03.28 10:14:00 -
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I'm sorry but all these people still crying for ECM nerfs are just idiotic and have never flown ECM.
Last time I'm going to explain this, a ship has a strength of say 7 on his jammer, target ship has a sensor strength of say 14 which neither are far fetched numbers. In this instance the jammers would jam 7 times out of 14, 7:14.... so 50% chance, now with their cycle time a 50% chance isn't as great as it sounds.
With these new sensor backup skills around now many more ships will have a higher sensor strength making them hard to jam, CCP have already nerfed the range of ECM into the ground as well as offering substantial buffs to ships sensors.
I admit being perma jammed is frustrating and annoying, but there are modules (backup arrays) to pretty much make you unjamable. So maybe spare a slot and fit one if it bugs you so much?
I remember the days of sitting out at almost 200km in a falcon jamming things then warping off and coming back doing the same as soon as tackle got close, that needed nerfing. Current mechanics are fine find something else to cry about, caldari are already pretty bad as it is!
Once ECM has been squashed I'd put money on the fact the cry-babies will set their eyes on sensor damps and arazu's scrambling and dampening a ship down blah blah....... If this trend of "balancing" continues we will all be flying yellow, blue, green and red space bricks all looking the same, fitting the same acting the same, ships and more importantly races need their "op" ships as a draw to that race. \'''\<(o_O)>/'''/ |
saltrock0000
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:10:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:This is just such bullshit though and i cannot believe anybody who believes this has ever participated in PVP.
Standard maxskill Geddon = 20 Sensor Strength Falcon max skill with White noise jammer = 11 Strength
There is no way in hell he will only Jam you ~50% of the time. He will Jam you 9 times out of 10, if not more! Everyone who regularly pvps will know this.
Currently the best counter is Damps, but when scorpions can jam you from 150km, unless you;ve filled your mids with sensor boosters, eccm and damps then there's **** all you can do. Plus you wont have any room left for a point anyway.
11 and 20.... so 11:20... so what 51%? Maybe you just get very very very unlucky in your pvp.
Oh and if you want to play the "never pvp'd noob" argument check my stats then come back
People should really learn how to counter mechanics, instead of QQing and screaming for nerfs.
Scorpion 150km off group... that's a rather handy warp to range isn't it!..... 4 scanner probes and a instant warp to will silence that scorpion pretty quickly. Or hey Snipe him.... Or move the battle field to a planet/another gate/station etc., or like you said dampen his lock range.
There are infinite ways to counter different ships, instantly claiming something's OP and coming on forums wanting a nerf is just the sign of a bad pvper I'm afraid.
Next its going to be, "I cant hit that frigate with my dreadnaught... MOAR SPEED NERFS!!!!" \'''\<(o_O)>/'''/ |
saltrock0000
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:13:00 -
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Salana Drashen wrote:Nova Satar wrote: Standard maxskill Geddon = 20 Sensor Strength Falcon max skill with White noise jammer = 11 Strength
There is no way in hell he will only Jam you ~50% of the time. He will Jam you 9 times out of 10, if not more! Everyone who regularly pvps will know this.
Said by someone who has clearly never flown an ECM ship, nor has any clue about probability.
Also a true EFT warrior \'''\<(o_O)>/'''/ |
saltrock0000
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:40:00 -
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I'd also like to add to this thread. LOGISTICS ARE OP!!!!!
Because the other day I couldn't kill a stabber in my talos when he had 3 logi friends... Logi is clearly way OP and should be nerfed re nerfed and nerfed again because of my 1 encounter with it.. and I lost!!! RAWRRRRZOOORRRRZ \'''\<(o_O)>/'''/ |
saltrock0000
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:41:00 -
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saltrock0000 wrote:I'd also like to add to this thread. LOGISTICS ARE OP!!!!!
Because the other day I couldn't kill a stabber in my talos when he had 3 logi friends... Logi is clearly way OP and should be nerfed re nerfed and nerfed again because of my 1 encounter with it.. and I lost!!! RAWRRRRZOOORRRRZ
But saltrock0000 a good logistic counter is.... oh wait no..... ECM!!!!! \'''\<(o_O)>/'''/ |
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