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Shamrock
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Posted - 2003.07.27 17:14:00 -
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Well, I personally get atleast one virus email per week. It hits my [email protected] account. Since I am apart of many forums and gaming sites. It's easy for anyone to get my email. They do it in mass quantity from the complete website. That is why I only use [email protected] on sites. I don't care about the viri because I know it's apart of the internet. I am just very careful. It sounds like to me Ragnar that everyone in your corp mailing list needs to clean up at the same time. Maybe that will help. |

Karunel Hagensry
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Posted - 2003.07.27 17:23:00 -
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Well, you know that I don't like TTi much either ( ), but I absolutely agree with the original demand/statement from Ragnar, games are games and breaking the rules or even worse using out of the game tactics (If virus'ing can be called a "tactic") is sad and deserves a serious response. - Karunel Hagensray Ex- Journalist
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Shintai
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Posted - 2003.07.27 17:37:00 -
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Nobody mailed TTI any viruses, nor even mailed TTI at all.
And I joined Going Limp and started poding TTI. I wonder what they whine over now. Podding outside US primetime?
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |

Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:00:00 -
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can u not trace the virus email to an ip orignator and email the company repsonsible?
most of the time if u physcially ring teh technical support team adn talk em thru what u wnat they can hunt the git sender down rather swiftly.
and since TTi staff reported getting muliple virii mail eahc month, i don't see this draining incident as being a particular reason for more to come thru, at least they were open and attacked u in game
and made no secret of attacking you and continue to do so
Oberon Incorporated. |

Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:31:00 -
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Omg, what a thread is this?
You have a virus in your mailbox? How about a more secure mail user agent / operating system?
You have been attacked by a module not considered as agressive? How about blaming CCP for their stupidity? ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:55:00 -
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It has been two months since the last virus incident. Ragnar is correct we don't know who did this. I will be turning over what I have to someone who can do something about it in the morning and hopefully the guilty party will be identified.
It could just be a "coincidence" that this massive virus attack yesterday happend immediately after Femme's ship was destroyed - we don't know.
What I do know is that several countries (Council of Europe) signed an agreement in 2001 to vigoursly prosecute and share information in computer virus cases such as this particular virus. The United States, Canada and nineteen EU countries signed the agreement.
There are two possible locations this originated and both have signed this agreement. If it isn't in the US it will be sent to the Information Technology Crime Unit of the National Criminal Investigations Department (NCID) of the Swedish Police Force which has authority in surveillance and investigating IT crime (the other possibility based on a friends deciphering of the header information).
Either way the issue will be taken care of tomorrow so I'm not going to worry about it. 
Have a nice day.
Calladen 
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: Endureth on 27/07/2003 21:00:58 I think it should be situational. Here is a set of rules for security reductions that make sense to me.
1. If you target another ship, you SHOULD NOT take a security hit.
2. If you target and fire on another ship, you SHOULD take a security hit.
3. If you are targetted by another ship and you fire first, you SHOULD take a security hit.
4. If you target another ship and use a cap drain, warp scrambler or stasis web, you SHOULD NOT take a security hit.
5. If you are targeted by another ship that uses cap drain, warp scrambler or stasis web on you, you SHOULD NOT take a security hit if you fire first.
Add friends.
6. If you fire on a ship that a corp mate, a gang member or an ally (when it is implemented) is firing at or being fired upon by, you fall under the same rules your corp mate, gang member or ally is currently subject to.
Anyone care to add some other situations? Keep in mind it has to be simple and clear cut enough for the game to understand and make the correct assumption.
-E
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.07.27 21:01:00 -
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Endurth,
3 and 4 kind of contradict one another by saying #3 ISNT hostile but if your the victim of #3 you can fire and that isn't hostile.
Personally I think those ideas are fantastic. Someone who is the victim of a cap drain, web, scram has to be able to defend themselves somehow.
I wouldn't mind #3 IF #4 we're also implimented.
Great ideas !     
Calladen
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