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Jace Errata
Ghosts That Linger
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Posted - 2013.04.02 21:17:00 -
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Earlier today, Suukuvestaa Corporation, following a series of negotations with other corporations and the Gallente Federation, launched a freighter convoy carrying relief supplies to Caldari Prime.
I'm proud to say that despite interference from the Templis Dragonaurs and capsuleer ships, the convoy was safely escorted to its destination and back by warships of the Peace and Order Unit, and a capsuleer fleet led by Grideris. While this will undoubtedly have repercussions in the Caldari political system, particularly since Tibus Heth himself opposed the convoy (instead demanding that the supplies go to the war effort), for today, the civilians of Caldari Prime have enough food and medicine to survive.
Thanks to the bravery of the freighter pilots and the Peace and Order commanders, and the combat prowess of the capsuleers of the defense fleet, the truce and safe passage brokered by six out of the eight Caldari megacorps are intact, and more lives will be saved over the coming days on the surface of Caldari Prime.
--Jace Errata Incendria Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter
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Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
309
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Posted - 2013.04.03 05:57:00 -
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It's interesting the Caldari Navy didn't show. I couldn't come, but the message I received about it came from Sami Okuuda of the Caldari Navy. To receive a message that the Navy would be doing something only for someone else to show up is quite peculiar. |
Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
166
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Posted - 2013.04.03 06:09:00 -
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I'd say because the Caldari Navy is funded by all the Eight Mega-corporations. Not just Heth/Kaalakiota. So the Navy needs to be careful with what it does.
The perspective has certainly shifted. It now seems Heth opposes the Big Eight and thus the State itself. He's slowly becoming the odd one out. Quite a well deserved shift for Ishukone who was the pariah until now. Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2267
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Posted - 2013.04.03 08:52:00 -
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We tend to use the Dragonaurs as a stand-in for the Provists. New Eden Community Representative GÇ+ New Eden Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
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Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
310
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Posted - 2013.04.03 09:24:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We tend to use the Dragonaurs as a stand-in for the Provists. Stand-in? You mean there's a difference between the two groups? When did that happen? |
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CCP Falcon
2576
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Posted - 2013.04.03 15:19:00 -
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Xindi Kraid wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We tend to use the Dragonaurs as a stand-in for the Provists. Stand-in? You mean there's a difference between the two groups? When did that happen?
Stand in is used in loose terms.
The Templis Dragonaurs are pretty much a terrorist organization. I suppose you could consider them kind of like Provist extremists.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1740
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Posted - 2013.04.03 15:45:00 -
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I assume this was scripted so it could have gone either way? The supply ships could have been turned back, rather than getting through? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Lucas Raholan
Agenda Industries
62
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Posted - 2013.04.03 16:02:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I assume this was scripted so it could have gone either way? The supply ships could have been turned back, rather than getting through?
It could have gone either way..the Dragonaurs could have maintained their blockade and the convoy wouldn't have undocked.. Falcon mentioned afterwards that he had thought that would have been the case given it was CNR's against standard Ravens.
And as Grideris mentions if the FCORD fleet side with the Dragonaurs POU would have been whitewashed. I'm secretly a unicorn that Sh**ts fairy dust and sings all day-á |
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CCP Falcon
2576
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Posted - 2013.04.03 16:11:00 -
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Lucas Raholan wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I assume this was scripted so it could have gone either way? The supply ships could have been turned back, rather than getting through? It could have gone either way..the Dragonaurs could have maintained their blockade and the convoy wouldn't have undocked.. Falcon mentioned afterwards that he had thought that would have been the case given it was CNR's against standard Ravens. And as Grideris mentions if the FCORD fleet side with the Dragonaurs POU would have been whitewashed.
Initially when I undocked with a couple of the Peace & Order pilots prior to the rest of the event actors logging in, I thought that given the number of people who claim to be Patriots who were present, the Dragonaurs might hold the blockade.
When I realized just how many logistics were locking up the Peace & Order characters though, I was pretty convinced that they'd clear the docking ramps and the convoy would get out. I'll never underestimate the hate for Heth again
That said, if the Dragonaurs had held the field, the convoy wouldn't have happened afterwards.
Funnily enough, the initial plan was just to have the freighters head to the Federation Navy station in Luminaire given how much of a nightmare quadboxing freighters is, but after seeing 100+ people turn up to join the escort, I just thought "ah, what the hell" and decided to go to the planet, then make you guys escort them all the way back over to Yashunen for the hell of it.
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Meizu Kho
Kho Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.04.03 16:46:00 -
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Since i'm testing livestreaming a bit i took the opportunity to try and stream the event. So if you missed it, here is the whole event from the perspective of Fcord:
twitch
I'll probably try to alternate a bit between full livestreams and edited after reports. If you have a preference feel free to voice it. I'll do what i want anyway but it can't hurt to know what you guys prefer. |
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Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
44
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:11:00 -
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Jace Errata wrote:Earlier today, Sukuuvestaa Corporation, following a series of negotations with other corporations and the Gallente Federation, launched a freighter convoy carrying relief supplies to Caldari Prime.
I'm proud to say that despite interference from the Templis Dragonaurs and capsuleer ships, the convoy was safely escorted to its destination and back by warships of the Peace and Order Unit, and a capsuleer fleet led by Grideris. While this will undoubtedly have repercussions in the Caldari political system, particularly since Tibus Heth himself opposed the convoy (instead demanding that the supplies go to the war effort), for today, the civilians of Caldari Prime have enough food and medicine to survive.
Thanks to the bravery of the freighter pilots and the Peace and Order commanders, and the combat prowess of the capsuleers of the defense fleet, the truce and safe passage brokered by six out of the eight Caldari megacorps are intact, and more lives will be saved over the coming days on the surface of Caldari Prime.
--Jace Errata Incendria
EDIT (OOC): while this is an IC post, I feel it belongs here as this was a live event - I was just in an IC-y mood. Feel free to go OOC discussing it. Anyone have any thoughts on why the Caldari Navy didn't show (quite a few of us expected them to come and enforce Heth's directive, rather than the Dragonaurs)?
Edit 2: I can't spell Sukuuvestaa
i have word from the caldari loyalist Mercenaries that due to that convoy succeding they are now being pushed back on all fronts due to the hidden weaponry that was smuggled in. congradulation, we could very well lose our homeworld due to these traiotors "aid" CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |
Yoma Karima
Wylde Stallions
36
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:44:00 -
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Only reason i helped the Convoy out despite being a caldari loyalist is that i am loyal specificly to the Ishukone mega corp. Becouse my mega corp had sanctiond the sending of suppies to caldari prim it was in my best intresset to see other mega corp suppies reach Caldari prim as well. Those who wish to end War wish to end what it means to be human. Those who advocate War do not know its power. Yet Those who learn from War will be remembered for all time.
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Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Kaltiovon
459
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:27:00 -
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Calathorn Virpio wrote:i have word from the caldari loyalist Mercenaries that due to that convoy succeding they are now being pushed back on all fronts due to the hidden weaponry that was smuggled in. congradulation, we could very well lose our homeworld due to these traiotors "aid"
Proof? The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Commission Fleet Coordination Coalition
586
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Posted - 2013.04.03 22:04:00 -
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Meizu Kho wrote:Since i'm testing livestreaming a bit i took the opportunity to try and stream the event. So if you missed it, here is the whole event from the perspective of Fcord: twitchI'll probably try to alternate a bit between full livestreams and edited after reports. If you have a preference feel free to voice it. I'll do what i want anyway but it can't hurt to know what you guys prefer.
Why not both? One of the good things about the videos you've been doing is that you also explained what happened in the event and the factors leading up to it. This would really help anyone that doesn't know the story behind what's happening.
And Falcon, removing Heth is on my personal "to do" list. His guys are going to have a lot of issues doing things if I can help it http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems The Fourth District
142
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Posted - 2013.04.04 01:49:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Initially when I undocked with a couple of the Peace & Order pilots prior to the rest of the event actors logging in, I thought that given the number of people who claim to be Patriots who were present, the Dragonaurs might hold the blockade. When I realized just how many logistics were locking up the Peace & Order characters though, I was pretty convinced that they'd clear the docking ramps and the convoy would get out. I'll never underestimate the hate for Heth again
I am sorry, but what led you to think that the Patriots liked the Provist, especially the Dragonaurs?
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Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
44
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Posted - 2013.04.04 03:00:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Lucas Raholan wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I assume this was scripted so it could have gone either way? The supply ships could have been turned back, rather than getting through? It could have gone either way..the Dragonaurs could have maintained their blockade and the convoy wouldn't have undocked.. Falcon mentioned afterwards that he had thought that would have been the case given it was CNR's against standard Ravens. And as Grideris mentions if the FCORD fleet side with the Dragonaurs POU would have been whitewashed. Initially when I undocked with a couple of the Peace & Order pilots prior to the rest of the event actors logging in, I thought that given the number of people who claim to be Patriots who were present, the Dragonaurs might hold the blockade. When I realized just how many logistics were locking up the Peace & Order characters though, I was pretty convinced that they'd clear the docking ramps and the convoy would get out. I'll never underestimate the hate for Heth again That said, if the Dragonaurs had held the field, the convoy wouldn't have happened afterwards. Funnily enough, the initial plan was just to have the freighters head to the Federation Navy station in Luminaire given how much of a nightmare quadboxing freighters is, but after seeing 100+ people turn up to join the escort, I just thought "ah, what the hell" and decided to go to the planet, then make you guys escort them all the way back over to Yashunen for the hell of it.
translation: trolololol
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1743
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Posted - 2013.04.04 17:20:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Lucas Raholan wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I assume this was scripted so it could have gone either way? The supply ships could have been turned back, rather than getting through? It could have gone either way..the Dragonaurs could have maintained their blockade and the convoy wouldn't have undocked.. Falcon mentioned afterwards that he had thought that would have been the case given it was CNR's against standard Ravens. And as Grideris mentions if the FCORD fleet side with the Dragonaurs POU would have been whitewashed. Initially when I undocked with a couple of the Peace & Order pilots prior to the rest of the event actors logging in, I thought that given the number of people who claim to be Patriots who were present, the Dragonaurs might hold the blockade. When I realized just how many logistics were locking up the Peace & Order characters though, I was pretty convinced that they'd clear the docking ramps and the convoy would get out. I'll never underestimate the hate for Heth again That said, if the Dragonaurs had held the field, the convoy wouldn't have happened afterwards. Funnily enough, the initial plan was just to have the freighters head to the Federation Navy station in Luminaire given how much of a nightmare quadboxing freighters is, but after seeing 100+ people turn up to join the escort, I just thought "ah, what the hell" and decided to go to the planet, then make you guys escort them all the way back over to Yashunen for the hell of it. I would say that this is one of the more successful live events. It was scripted to go either way, It went a way CCP did not expect but was quite willing to accept, It was not broken by player actions and turned into a mess, Everyone had fun.
The only thing that would make events like this better is if they happened in my time zone (US West coast). http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
68
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Posted - 2013.04.04 18:50:00 -
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With Louvaki. Proof, Virpio? It's a nice little story, but I prefer PF or canon to random justify-my-side BS. ;) |
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CCP Falcon
2579
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Posted - 2013.04.04 18:51:00 -
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Dex Nederland wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Initially when I undocked with a couple of the Peace & Order pilots prior to the rest of the event actors logging in, I thought that given the number of people who claim to be Patriots who were present, the Dragonaurs might hold the blockade. When I realized just how many logistics were locking up the Peace & Order characters though, I was pretty convinced that they'd clear the docking ramps and the convoy would get out. I'll never underestimate the hate for Heth again I am sorry, but what led you to think that the Patriots liked the Provist, especially the Dragonaurs?
Well, there's a few people who've been in support of Heth, and there were a fair few people in Luminaire who were defending the titan, even after it threatened to start shooting at the surface
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Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Kaltiovon
463
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Posted - 2013.04.04 19:05:00 -
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Whooh-ho hold up here mate.
Just because we defended the Titan doesn't mean we support Heth. The Federation did kinda violate and assault a soverign Caldari world, and not just any world for that matter.
My character is a liberal and he proudly stood in defense of Caldari Prime against the Federation assault. I find it kinda funny how people keep trying to use that card 'the Titan was gonna shoot at the planet!' to white wash the situation, especially given the Admirals broadcasts about moving in to support the troops who were engaged with Federal forces on the ground.
The notion doesn't make any sense that the Leviathan was going to doomsday the planet when we were winning on the surface, not until that is, the FedNav jumped in.Our interventions means we oppose the sack of our Homeworld by the Federation for a second time, not that we support the Heth or Provist regime.
Obviously there are people who do support Heth like Dianna Kim, but the resounding opinion of Capsuleers I've spoken to declare their allegiance to the State, not to the Provists. The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
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Lucas Raholan
Agenda Industries
62
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Posted - 2013.04.04 19:10:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Dex Nederland wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Initially when I undocked with a couple of the Peace & Order pilots prior to the rest of the event actors logging in, I thought that given the number of people who claim to be Patriots who were present, the Dragonaurs might hold the blockade. When I realized just how many logistics were locking up the Peace & Order characters though, I was pretty convinced that they'd clear the docking ramps and the convoy would get out. I'll never underestimate the hate for Heth again I am sorry, but what led you to think that the Patriots liked the Provist, especially the Dragonaurs? Well, there's a few people who've been in support of Heth, and there were a fair few people in Luminaire who were defending the titan, even after it threatened to start shooting at the surface
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Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
359
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Posted - 2013.04.05 12:49:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Well, there's a few people who've been in support of Heth, and there were a fair few people in Luminaire who were defending the titan, even after it threatened to start shooting at the surface I think you have misunderstood the situation. Many of us do not support Heth, and I, in fact, would pod myself back to highsec if I thought I had the chance to kill him. We do, however stand with the Caldari State. That was a State owned titan in orbit of a State owned planet and the Federal forces were violating that sovereignty under what their own rhetoric demonstrated to be a somewhat thinly veiled excuse to attack Caldari naval assets.
In short we were defending our nation rather than just our leader. |
Toluijin Chagangan
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
69
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Posted - 2013.04.05 14:33:00 -
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Simon Louvaki wrote:
My character is a liberal and he proudly stood in defense of Caldari Prime against the Federation assault. I find it kinda funny how people keep trying to use that card 'the Titan was gonna shoot at the planet!' to white wash the situation, especially given the Admirals broadcasts about moving in to support the troops who were engaged with Federal forces on the ground.
well... as falcon just said she was going to bombard the planet... and...
CCP Falcon wrote:Yep, I was piloting the Leviathan, along with two of the Wyverns. All logging was turned on. Hopefully we'll be able to piece something together out of all the crazy numbers
i think it's a fair assessment that she was going to.
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CCP Falcon
2584
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Posted - 2013.04.05 15:14:00 -
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Toluijin Chagangan wrote:Simon Louvaki wrote:
My character is a liberal and he proudly stood in defense of Caldari Prime against the Federation assault. I find it kinda funny how people keep trying to use that card 'the Titan was gonna shoot at the planet!' to white wash the situation, especially given the Admirals broadcasts about moving in to support the troops who were engaged with Federal forces on the ground.
well... as falcon just said she was going to bombard the planet... and... CCP Falcon wrote:Yep, I was piloting the Leviathan, along with two of the Wyverns. All logging was turned on. Hopefully we'll be able to piece something together out of all the crazy numbers i think it's a fair assessment that she was going to.
Well, that's an assumption... but all will be revealed in good time.
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Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Kaltiovon
468
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Posted - 2013.04.05 22:04:00 -
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Toluijin Chagangan wrote:Simon Louvaki wrote:
My character is a liberal and he proudly stood in defense of Caldari Prime against the Federation assault. I find it kinda funny how people keep trying to use that card 'the Titan was gonna shoot at the planet!' to white wash the situation, especially given the Admirals broadcasts about moving in to support the troops who were engaged with Federal forces on the ground.
well... as falcon just said she was going to bombard the planet... and... CCP Falcon wrote:Yep, I was piloting the Leviathan, along with two of the Wyverns. All logging was turned on. Hopefully we'll be able to piece something together out of all the crazy numbers i think it's a fair assessment that she was going to.
Aye, luckily I was there and distinctly remember the broadcasts stating that she was indeed going to bomb the planet, but in a support capacity. That would, in my mind, strongly imply that she wasn't about to simply fry the planet. The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
Unit XS365BT
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2013.04.05 22:08:00 -
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There was only one time she mentioned supporting the ground troops, and that was when she said the oblivion was spooling down because the ground forces had the upper hand.
the rest of the time she merely mentioned having target co-ordinates, or that she had lost communication with the planet and was going to bombard it anyway.
anyway, even if she fired in a 'support capacity' had she fired the oblivion at the planet she'd have made a big-ol supervolcano... consider that 2/3rds of the titan, without the most devastating parts left attached, caused a hole in the planet and major tectonic instability...
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Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Kaltiovon
468
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Posted - 2013.04.05 23:01:00 -
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Which doesn't make sense that she'd be using the DD in the first place to support troops unless things had gotten entirely out of hand. I imagine it makes more sense that she was powering up all weapons in case they were needed, including the DD Weapon in which everyone simply assumes that means she was planning on using it right then and there.
Unless we're completely and totally wrong about the affect the DD would have on the planet it just seems really crazy to even contemplate using the weapon. As Falcon just said, that's one assumption, and its far too cartoon villain to be honest. The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2013.04.06 00:20:00 -
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It was only right at the end that they discussed actually firing the DD at the planet, the rest of the time the references were to conventional weapon fire on the planet. That said.... A Titans conventional weapons bombarding a planet are a significant threat, and had to be taken seriously given Heths claims that any attacks on the planet would result in the Titan killing the millions & millions of Gallente civilians. Sitting back and going 'Oh maybe she's bluffing' when she had been moved there a week before specifically by Heth as the situation had started to heat up would have been criminal had she then carried through and bombarded the planet, and we have no real idea of what a titans conventional weapons do to a planet, since we don't have missile bombardment or titan sized bombardment available to capsuleers.
All reasonable indications were that the threats were serious regarding planetary bombardment and the use of the titan to commit ethnic cleansing when it came down to the wire, a form of scorched earth policy so to speak. So pilots had to regard them as such, and that it didn't happen due to the technical limitations of planetary bombardment. |
Toluijin Chagangan
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
80
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:10:00 -
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every time she mentioned firing on the planet, she also mentioned preparing the 'oblivion' That is a threat regarding firing the doomsday.
Still.. she somehow managed to fire the thing at a CONCORD battleship... That still confuses me. |
Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Kaltiovon
472
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Posted - 2013.04.06 18:51:00 -
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Its not unreasonable to assume that she was bringing all weapon systems online in preparation for a worst case scenario (not that I support nuking Caldari Prime into Oblivion) but it isn't a threat. Given her stated intentions to support the ground troops (which was the reason for moving into low orbit in the first place) its more like wishful thinking that she'd do something so unreasonable as to DD the planet to justify the Federations attack.
It appears to me most people had inferred her intention via what was spoken on the public comms, which doesn't even make sense that she'd be broadcasting on in the first place. Given our factional sides I doubt we're all gonna come to an agreement as to the intention one way or the other.
I'd be more interested in what wasn't broadcasted live rather than what was. The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
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