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Artctura
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.04.06 21:34:00 -
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Domina Trix wrote:Quote:And let me ask you a simple question. What do you think CCP will be influenced more by? The people they bring to specifically spend face time with them, or someone posting on a forum. If those are the only two choices then people posting on the forums would be a better choice. The CSMs will simply ignore anything that isn't something they want or like. Example: A CSM from Goon or New Order is unlikely to bring concerns from hi-sec miners to the attention of CCP .
And why would you believe that? EVE is an unbelievable complex market system. A concern of a majority of high sec miners (Not just 1 or 2 people complaining on the forums, but a true large number of people) is going to affect the null sec supply chain. It's going to affect industrialists. It's going to affect the guy flying a caracal for DBRB.
Will they be as adept at presenting the ideas and developing solutions on their own, without the high sec mining communities input? No. But if the high sec mining community engages their CSM, regardless of what they specialize in, they can present a far better case then simply posting on forums.
If you believe that the CSM will simply ignore a large portion of the community because of where they call home, there is little I can say to convince you otherwise, but rest assured, my experience, and should I be elected, my term, will not be a case of ignoring groups of players that don't live in the same portion of space I do.
Artctura for CSM 2013 |
baltec1
Bat Country
5832
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Posted - 2013.04.06 21:35:00 -
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Domina Trix wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Because you didn't vote. Now go vote &make it matter Do you honestly believe that the CSMs have any say or influence at all? I would just love to be the interviewer reading someones CV that had "I was a CSM in EvE" listed as an accomplishment.
We are getting a POS update are we not? |
Artctura
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
198
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Posted - 2013.04.06 21:35:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Artctura wrote:And let me ask you a simple question. What do you think CCP will be influenced more by? The people they bring to specifically spend face time with them, or someone posting on a forum. Unless you're in one of the voting blocs that wields enough power to put a candidate in the Top 2, you no longer have any chance to choose who goes to Iceland, so that point is moot :v
True, but even the non summit members of the CSM will have greater influence with CCP then the average forum poster. Artctura for CSM 2013 |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1215
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Posted - 2013.04.06 21:39:00 -
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Artctura wrote:True, but even the non summit members of the CSM will have greater influence with CCP then the average forum poster.
Considering the average forum poster has zero influence, that's not saying very much.
baltec1 wrote:We are getting a POS update are we not?
Only because of a threadnought from a CSM member who had to defy the council's wishes and bring the issue directly to the massed playerbase on the forums. If Two Step would have left the issue with the CSM we'd have **** to show for it. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
baltec1
Bat Country
5832
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Posted - 2013.04.06 21:42:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:
Only because of a threadnought from a CSM member who had to defy the council's wishes and bring the issue directly to the massed playerbase on the forums. If Two Step would have left the issue with the CSM we'd have **** to show for it.
So they made a difference. |
Eternum Praetorian
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
926
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Posted - 2013.04.06 21:53:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:I feel no compulsion to be the enabler of someone else's bloated sense of entitlement, self-importance and alcohol problems. Allow me to reassure you that voting for me won't make any of those problems worse than they already are. Now go participate. What are you so scared of?
Eternum's View On CSM Voting (Time index 1:40)
"I on the other hand, who did not vote--whom in fact did not even leave the house on election day--am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain about the mess that they created that I had nothing to do with"
And I am sure after the election is over EVE will improve immediately.
Signed, with all of my heart. **** you Malcanis
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8537
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Posted - 2013.04.06 22:05:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:**** you Malcanis
Any time, sweetness.
Now go vote or I'll have everything that you ever loved flying nerfed.
Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere
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Frying Doom
2201
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Posted - 2013.04.06 22:40:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Malcanis wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:I feel no compulsion to be the enabler of someone else's bloated sense of entitlement, self-importance and alcohol problems. Allow me to reassure you that voting for me won't make any of those problems worse than they already are. Now go participate. What are you so scared of? Eternum's View On CSM Voting (Time index 1:40)"I on the other hand, who did not vote--whom in fact did not even leave the house on election day--am in no way responsible for what these people have done and I have every right to complain as loud as I want about the mess that they created that you helped them make and that I had nothing to do with" ...and I am sure after the election is over EVE will improve immediately. Signed, with all of my heart. **** you Malcanis If you choose not to vote for the CSM, how can you complain when the game changes to something you do not like.
For every person who does not vote weakens the power of the CSM in the eyes of CCP.
So not only do your actions effect your right to complain, they also effectively lower the power of the CSM.
So the argument, I will not vote as the CSM has no power is circular and has no meaning.
So get off your lazy butt and vote.
Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras |
Eternum Praetorian
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
927
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Posted - 2013.04.06 23:33:00 -
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Do away with the CSM, do EVE a favor.
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Frying Doom
2201
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Posted - 2013.04.06 23:54:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Do away with the CSM, do EVE a favor. Yes because EvE worked so well before the CSM came into existance. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras |
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Eternum Praetorian
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
927
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Posted - 2013.04.07 00:21:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Do away with the CSM, do EVE a favor. Yes because EvE worked so well before the CSM came into existance.
And it do so well after...
It took a mass log off to get CCP to give us a sizable portion of what we have been asking for for years. Engine trails were suddenly "feasible" again, along with a whole host of other additions... no CSM required.
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Frying Doom
2202
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Posted - 2013.04.07 00:30:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Do away with the CSM, do EVE a favor. Yes because EvE worked so well before the CSM came into existance. And it do so well after... It took a mass log off to get CCP to give us a sizable portion of what we have been asking for for years. Engine trails were suddenly "feasible" again, along with a whole host of other additions... no CSM required. No they got more happy to comply after they stuffed up massively and ended up getting the CSM chairman who was also the head of the largest alliance at the time, to help cool every thing down.
Yes they responded because it cost them money, and they are now happier to work with the CSM as it has proven to stop them from blowing their own foot off with the cost of millions. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras |
Eternum Praetorian
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
927
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Posted - 2013.04.07 00:48:00 -
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Funny you should say that, I seem to recall the CSM's of that time period being particularly rude, close minded and down right insulting to us paying customers. I certainly don't remember being "calmed down" I in fact recall being told by a particular CSM that they are not employed by CCP (and thus do not represent CCP directly) and because of that they were entitled to basically tell me to go **** myself.
When I pointed out that their words were representing this company, they disagreed.
Funny enough, you will notice now that they are being far more respectful and diplomatic these days. All it took was a certain someone mentioning suicide in-front of sony game executives to make CCP force them to agree.
The CSM had nothing to do with CCP fixing eve with the post Incarna expansion, nor did they have a hand in calming us down. CCP made us leave with a broken patch, CCP made us come back by un-breaking it. Taking this change in paradigm out of the hands of EVE's population and attempting to give the CSM credit for it, is, quite frankly, insulting. It was back then, and it is still now.
CSM's did not organize the Jita protest. They did not occupy Jita and all major market hubs. They did not organize the substantial decline in subscriptions. They did not make us sub or resub.
Nor did they prevent the various failures leading up to Incarna in the first place, which would have prevented all of the above from happening at all. Duh? I mean, isn't that part of the reason why they are there? To anticipate what we, the consumer, wants and to give realistic feedback?
Thus... they did absolutely nothing but **** people like me off.
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Rhivre
TarNec
37
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Posted - 2013.04.07 00:53:00 -
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I have no problem with the CSM, but i am wondering when this period pre CSM was, as I have the minutes (or chat logs, whatever you prefer) from the Council meetings in 2003 and 2004 |
Frying Doom
2202
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Posted - 2013.04.07 01:03:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:I have no problem with the CSM, but i am wondering when this period pre CSM was, as I have the minutes (or chat logs, whatever you prefer) from the Council meetings in 2003 and 2004 from the CSM?
I will just quote
The Mittani wrote: The Bad Old Days The CSM as it currently stands is not the CSM that was originally pitched by CCP, wounded in the media by the T20/Band of Brothers cheating and corruption scandals. The original CSM was mooted as a body similar to todayGÇÖs Internal Affairs department, a group of elected player-auditors who would ensure that Sabre BPOs were no longer being handed out gratis. After a lot of high-profile press, the GÇÿwatchdog CSMGÇÖ was quietly abandoned after the T20 crisis died down and vanished for almost a year.
When it returned and was actually implemented in 2008, the CSM had transformed into what amounted to a focus group with six month terms. Another trumpet blast of loud, high profile media coverage resulted, which nicely covered over the fact that the first CSM was riven with infighting sparked by its controversial and ineffective chairman, Jade Constantine, and the ensuing campaign to oust him from office. The dev blog which wrapped up the CSM1 experience was an exercise tiptoeing around the fact that absolutely nothing of note had been accomplished. The CCP rep assigned to the CSM was reduced to saying that GÇ£We decided against enumerating the CSM's accomplishments - this is not a pissing contest. We know they made a difference and we are confident that the council will continue to make a difference.GÇ¥ Yet in every CSM since the first, CCP has worked hard to enumerate the accomplishments and relevance of the council.
Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras |
Rhivre
TarNec
37
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Posted - 2013.04.07 01:06:00 -
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The BPOs postdate the CSM by quite a while..
THIS is the CSM I was referring to:
CSM2004
Or to go even older:
CSM2003 |
Eternum Praetorian
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
927
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Posted - 2013.04.07 01:07:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: The CSM as it currently stands is not the CSM that was originally pitched by CCP, wounded in the media by the T20/Band of Brothers cheating and corruption scandals
And I quote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:The CSM suffered another crippling blow in the eyes of the players after the Mitanni scandal and the CSM's failure to prevent one of the worst and most costly expansions in CCP history. Many players citing CSM rude behavior towards customers and bias towards certain forms of game play, while disregarding all others, as a major grievance towards the aging game EVE Online
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Frying Doom
2202
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Posted - 2013.04.07 01:10:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:The BPOs postdate the CSM by quite a while.. THIS is the CSM I was referring to: CSM2004Or to go even older: CSM2003 Same name but effectively a different thing. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras |
Eternum Praetorian
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
927
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Posted - 2013.04.07 01:32:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Rhivre wrote:The BPOs postdate the CSM by quite a while.. THIS is the CSM I was referring to: CSM2004Or to go even older: CSM2003 Same name but effectively a different thing.
Where as some of us say same **** different day.
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Frying Doom
2202
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Posted - 2013.04.07 01:39:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Rhivre wrote:The BPOs postdate the CSM by quite a while.. THIS is the CSM I was referring to: CSM2004Or to go even older: CSM2003 Same name but effectively a different thing. Where as some of us say same **** different day. So because something had the same name 10 years ago you feel that is justification for sticking the knife into the backs of every EvE player.
Look at it this way if you feel the need to complain about eve in the next 12 months STFU. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras |
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Eternum Praetorian
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
927
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Posted - 2013.04.07 01:45:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Rhivre wrote:The BPOs postdate the CSM by quite a while.. THIS is the CSM I was referring to: CSM2004Or to go even older: CSM2003 Same name but effectively a different thing. Where as some of us say same **** different day. So because something had the same name 10 years ago you feel that is justification for sticking the knife into the backs of every EvE player. Look at it this way if you feel the need to complain about eve in the next 12 months STFU.
I think we have already clarified, since I stay home on election-day I get to complain as loudly and as often I want
Also, get less angry and spend more time concocting pose more valid/logical counter arguments. You will find your time on the eve forums more enriching.
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Frying Doom
2202
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Posted - 2013.04.07 01:54:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:I think we have already established that since I stay home on election-day I get to complain as loudly and as often as I want about the mess that you and the people that you voted for make Also, get less angry and spend more time concocting more valid/logical counter arguments. You will find your time on the eve forums more enriching. Actually I have a great time.
But as you choose not to participate in the CSM now, why should you be able to participate in them later.
And under an STV system where votes required to get elected are tied directly to total number of votes, any bad decisions that the CSM and CCP are obviously your fault for failing to vote. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
95
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Posted - 2013.04.07 01:57:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:And I quote: Eternum Praetorian wrote:The CSM suffered another crippling blow in the eyes of the players after the Mitanni scandal and the CSM's failure to prevent one of the worst and most costly expansions in CCP history. Many players citing CSM rude behavior towards customers and bias towards certain forms of game play, while disregarding all others, as a major grievance towards the aging game EVE Online
Finally, someone else sees it.
CSM is a layer of government that doesn't actually do things to improve the game (well, that's not their intention for having some game power, it's to game the system for their advantage or pet ideas. CCP allows it because they keep the players deluded in any sense of real power). It keeps the game status quo and stagnate.
Essentially this is what SOE once had with their booster club, which in turn got scuttled due to the same game interference CCP did with helping BoB and more (the whole Aeralik scandal was a mess or messes). It's designed as a way to hype/promote a game according to how CCP wants it, with an illusion of some control (as those who run are control freaks and have egos to match...just look at the arrogance of some of the current CSMs running for examples).
So seen it before, and in the end the same history is repeating itself, in yet another niche game.
Want to see real changes that matter. Practical changes that dovetail in improving the game for more actual new players...not more alts for vets (a stagnate community). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Frying Doom
2202
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Posted - 2013.04.07 02:05:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:And I quote: Eternum Praetorian wrote:The CSM suffered another crippling blow in the eyes of the players after the Mitanni scandal and the CSM's failure to prevent one of the worst and most costly expansions in CCP history. Many players citing CSM rude behavior towards customers and bias towards certain forms of game play, while disregarding all others, as a major grievance towards the aging game EVE Online Finally, someone else sees it. CSM is a layer of government that doesn't actually do things to improve the game (well, that's not their intention for having some game power, it's to game the system for their advantage or pet ideas. CCP allows it because they keep the players deluded in any sense of real power). It keeps the game status quo and stagnate. Essentially this is what SOE once had with their booster club, which in turn got scuttled due to the same game interference CCP did with helping BoB and more (the whole Aeralik scandal was a mess or messes). It's designed as a way to hype/promote a game according to how CCP wants it, with an illusion of some control (as those who run are control freaks and have egos to match...just look at the arrogance of some of the current CSMs running for examples). So seen it before, and in the end the same history is repeating itself, in yet another niche game. Want to see real changes that matter. Practical changes that dovetail in improving the game for more actual new players...not more alts for vets (a stagnate community). Why is the CSM a lobby group?
Because so small a number of people actually vote, that they allow Null sec to rule the CSM.
How does this problem get fixed?
With a higher number of voters giving a more representative council. The council is representative of the voters the larger the percentage the more representative of EvE it becomes.
So if you don't vote, should you complain? Hell NO you are the reason that the CSM is a lobby group, favoring the Null sec alliances. It is like shooting yourself in the foot and then complaining that you are bleeding. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
95
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Posted - 2013.04.07 02:20:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: Why is the CSM a lobby group?
Because it is. The lipstick is a different color, but a pig is still a pig. Other games had/have the same booster club, and it turns out the same: Egos amok, status quo alive, game is stagnate, and overrun by bots (I quit WoW to get away from the bots in the BGs, LFR and even dungeons now, thinking no macros in EvE = no multibox software. Wrong! It's okay to have THOSE macros).
Look at the canvas. Look were this is all going. CCP profitting, yet the game is but alts and bots (how many actual new players play EvE each day? Not many, it's vets who keep adding more accounts). And players seem oblivious to it all, as they're seeing their tiny corner of the painting and careless of the overall picture...and how ugly it is.
I GOT MINE!!!
As a dumb "whale".
If you want the same o' same o' bot filled and alt filled games, keep voting. Tail chasing is fun, huh? "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Frying Doom
2204
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Posted - 2013.04.07 02:40:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Frying Doom wrote: Why is the CSM a lobby group?
Because it is. The lipstick is a different color, but a pig is still a pig. Other games had/have the same booster club, and it turns out the same: Egos amok, status quo alive, game is stagnate, and overrun by bots (I quit WoW to get away from the bots in the BGs, LFR and even dungeons now, thinking no macros in EvE = no multibox software. Wrong! It's okay to have THOSE macros). Look at the canvas. Look were this is all going. CCP profitting, yet the game is but alts and bots (how many actual new players play EvE each day? Not many, it's vets who keep adding more accounts). And players seem oblivious to it all, as they're seeing their tiny corner of the painting and careless of the overall picture...and how ugly it is. I GOT MINE!!! As a dumb "whale". If you want the same o' same o' bot filled and alt filled games, keep voting. Tail chasing is fun, huh? So I like your plan
You don't like something so you do nothing about it and just complain.
As to new players look in the rookie channel some time. You cannot tell me experienced players are asking those questions.
If society was driven by people like you, we would still be walking around as learning to tame a horse would just be too hard. All the while you would be complaining that something should happen by magic, as your feet hurt. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras |
Eternum Praetorian
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
927
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Posted - 2013.04.07 03:13:00 -
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You should watch more George Carlin on youtube Mr. Doom, he has already trumped all of your counter arguments quite nicely. Doing so again here would only be redundant.
"Vote" "Your choice matters" "Save the earth/gaming universe"
In the words of the all knowing comedian, EVE was bought and sold a long time ago. It's real owners like the way things are, and they do not want a player population composed of educated critical thinkers. They want players who will keep paying a sub as they bend over and take it, and they want players like you who think that whoever they vote for on CSM day will matter a damn one way or the other.
Jokes on you bud.
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
96
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Posted - 2013.04.07 03:15:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:You don't like something so you do nothing about it and just complain.
That's the script you go by and probably even believe.
I vote with my wallet. That's the real powerbroker. As even CCP can't deny the power of greenbacks.
Blizzard was arrogant too. They dreamed up a new TBC remake in Cata. Got carried away and simply told players to "L2P". After that one blog post, 300,000 players unsubscribed (almost like next day even, the drop was that dramatic). In the end, they lost 1.7mil subscriptions, cut over 600 employees, the most in their history. They changed quickly, and the rhetoric of Cata being the best thing since slice bread, turned into the worst expansion in WoW's history.
Money talks. Bullshit walks. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Frying Doom
2204
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Posted - 2013.04.07 03:33:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Frying Doom wrote:You don't like something so you do nothing about it and just complain. That's the script you go by and probably even believe. I vote with my wallet. That's the real powerbroker. As even CCP can't deny the power of greenbacks. Blizzard was arrogant too. They dreamed up a new TBC remake in Cata. Got carried away and simply told players to "L2P". After that one blog post, 300,000 players unsubscribed (almost like next day even, the drop was that dramatic). In the end, they lost 1.7mil subscriptions, cut over 600 employees, the most in their history. They changed quickly, and the rhetoric of Cata being the best thing since slice bread, turned into the worst expansion in WoW's history. Money talks. Bullshit walks. So you have no attachment to the game, and believe that minor unsubbing over a short period effects a companies long term prospects.
As to blizzards arrogance, remind me again how much money they make a month off a game they designed with the expectation of around 300,000 subscribers? Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
96
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Posted - 2013.04.07 04:48:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:So you have no attachment to the game
I'm a multigamer, Frying. I play many games. Have many accounts. My accounts in EvE show it's paid for this month. Hmmmm...how do you be unsubscribed like that, again? Hmmm, my main WoW account shows it's paid until May, too.
You like to believe EvE is a special snowflake among all gaming, so unique it's above all the other muck games can produce?
It isn't.
It's a game with the same players even (who do play other games too) and they play for their reasons and interests.
Some may find interest in CSM elections. Some won't. But if you're so deluded to think because what you think isn't done the way you like it, they're "unloyal" and what not?
Sit down and recheck that ego.
Hint: MMOs share the same player pool. Many play more than 1 MMO. The trick is getting them to play your MMO and keep playing it.
As for Blizzard: let's put it this way, they saw the abyss, and pulled back.
No game is an island. No game is immuned to the pocketbook. Even Goliath can fall, quick. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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