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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.09.15 08:33:00 -
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Okay I don't seriously think CCP hates cruisers but they're awful neglectful of cruisers and faction cruiser sized modules.
Faction cruiser weapons are rare.. infact some don't exist. I can't help but wonder why, HAC being as popular as they are. I don't see many frigate sized faction weapons either, but that could be an oversight on my part, defidently NO cruiser ones though.
There's some really awesome Gist modules that simply don't exist for cruisers, like medium gist shield boosters and medium gist 10mn afterburner/microwarp drive. I've seen them in the data base, and they sure are awesome, Gist A-Type Medium is 170 shields for 38 energy? :)
Faction armor repairers seem to be extremely rare as well, but I believe they exist.
One other thing that bugs me is that the faction large shield boosters, at least the gist ones are quite a bit less efficient than the small or xlarge ones.. I wonder why that is though?
I hope CCP adds more neat stuff for cruisers soon! :( ------
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.09.15 08:54:00 -
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As long a 2x plated cruisers have a good shot at killing a bs then I'm partially happy (*cough* cerberus ffsomgwtf *ehrhm*) --------------------------------------
Hail Stian Allaince and the emperor who can't spell. ;]
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2005.09.15 08:59:00 -
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Seen Amarr Navy dual light pulses on Escrow, if that helps.
Also, more power at the expense of inefficiency seems a fair tradeoff to me :P
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.09.15 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa As long a 2x plated cruisers have a good shot at killing a bs then I'm partially happy (*cough* cerberus ffsomgwtf *ehrhm*)
you dual plate a cerb? ------
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Ephemeron
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Posted - 2005.09.15 09:03:00 -
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I have Dread Guristas 200mm railgun. I tried selling it for 10 mil, no buyers. Nobody wants that crap, I'll probably end up recycling it
I do notice shortage of cruiser sized faction mods, tho. Like named 800mm plates still don't exist.
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Oveur
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Posted - 2005.09.15 09:45:00 -
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Hello. My name is Oveur. I am a cruiser addict. _____________________________ "There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?" |
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Arnov Karsoth
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Posted - 2005.09.15 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur Hello. My name is Oveur. I am a cruiser addict.
thats all good and dandy when you are a dev wich can click a button and get 5million hacs in your hangar. all others have to wait like 4months for delivery of one orr buy it off the market for 100mill+ after looking all over the empire regions for days to find one.
seeeeeeeeeeed 100 bpo's of each type and maybe there will be 30 of them who actually produces the ships
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2005.09.15 10:25:00 -
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Yuh...
We must have more Zealots/Deimoses/Ishtars/Vagabonds!
Mark two project looks like it will fix most of the problems with cruisers atm. Have a dig around this section for the post.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.09.15 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur Hello. My name is Oveur. I am a cruiser addict.
seed those medium gist shield boosters into the loot table... do it... do it now... <3 ------
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2005.09.15 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Oveur Hello. My name is Oveur. I am a cruiser addict.
seed those medium gist shield boosters into the loot table... do it... do it now... <3
Oh me god please do :O I want one for all of my vagabonds
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Dofri
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Posted - 2005.09.15 11:46:00 -
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well, no use in getting a faction cruiser weapons since they are worse then the tech2 weapons
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Arleonenis
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Posted - 2005.09.15 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Arleonenis on 15/09/2005 11:49:03 ordinary cruisers arent good for hardcore npcing, big sig radius and not big enough tank = dead cruiser, lowered sig radius could help, even 10% and give them 10% higher base resistances it would be good enough no more slots needed
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Grim Vandal
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Posted - 2005.09.15 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Arleonenis Edited by: Arleonenis on 15/09/2005 11:49:03 ordinary cruisers arent good for hardcore npcing, big sig radius and not big enough tank = dead cruiser, lowered sig radius could help, even 10% and give them 10% higher base resistances it would be good enough no more slots needed
actually the mk2 change "so far" suggest a 20% sig decrease for EVERY cruiser ...
while this idea isnt that bad at all ... I would replace this by a 20% speed increase ... which is kind of a similar change ... however this wouldnt make the heavy missiles obsolete ... while it also helps cruiser to be actually faster as compared to a BS... this gap is just too tiny imo
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2005.09.15 13:45:00 -
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Quote: actually the mk2 change "so far" suggest a 20% sig decrease for EVERY cruiser ...
while this idea isnt that bad at all ... I would replace this by a 20% speed increase ... which is kind of a similar change ... however this wouldnt make the heavy missiles obsolete ... while it also helps cruiser to be actually faster as compared to a BS... this gap is just too tiny imo
DON'T FORGET TO ADJUST THE BATTLECRUISER SIG DOWN AND AGILITY UP TO CURRENT CRUISER LEVELS!!
The Gang assist mods are great, but in ceptor/HAC/AF squads they are soooo slow that they just can't keep up. In reality if you count the seconds to align and warp there is no appreciable difference between a battleship and a Battlecruiser. If BC's were able to move like a current cruiser then they would at least be welcomed in fast moving fleets.
Now they move as slow as the BS's and no one wants to wait. Please make them just a bit quicker so they will be more useful!
Nyxus
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Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2005.09.15 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nyxus
Quote: actually the mk2 change "so far" suggest a 20% sig decrease for EVERY cruiser ...
while this idea isnt that bad at all ... I would replace this by a 20% speed increase ... which is kind of a similar change ... however this wouldnt make the heavy missiles obsolete ... while it also helps cruiser to be actually faster as compared to a BS... this gap is just too tiny imo
DON'T FORGET TO ADJUST THE BATTLECRUISER SIG DOWN AND AGILITY UP TO CURRENT CRUISER LEVELS!!
The Gang assist mods are great, but in ceptor/HAC/AF squads they are soooo slow that they just can't keep up. In reality if you count the seconds to align and warp there is no appreciable difference between a battleship and a Battlecruiser. If BC's were able to move like a current cruiser then they would at least be welcomed in fast moving fleets.
Now they move as slow as the BS's and no one wants to wait. Please make them just a bit quicker so they will be more useful!
Nyxus
I agree there m8, they are too damn slow to line up. Myself in my shiny Prophecy was always the last to line up when in ops with battleships - that kinda takes the piddle.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.09.15 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur Hello. My name is Oveur. I am a cruiser addict.
Are you in my corp? Or have just been using the sekrit subliminal messaging that is hidden in the stations to make us fly cruisers 90% of the time? :P
Now that cruisers are often faster then assault frigs its even better. No one expects the damage ouput of gankomens, or to have a celestis EW them back to the stone age. Arbitrators, Vexors and Caracal's murder*****y frig pilots.
That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. -- Ancient "Dirt" Religious figure. |
TILTISCH
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Posted - 2005.09.15 14:05:00 -
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U all should be Happy that they are now useable again instead!!
The misslenerf was how long ago?
Mr Tilt!!
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Somatic Neuron
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Posted - 2005.09.15 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Arnov Karsoth
Originally by: Oveur Hello. My name is Oveur. I am a cruiser addict.
thats all good and dandy when you are a dev wich can click a button and get 5million hacs in your hangar. all others have to wait like 4months for delivery of one orr buy it off the market for 100mill+ after looking all over the empire regions for days to find one.
seeeeeeeeeeed 100 bpo's of each type and maybe there will be 30 of them who actually produces the ships
Get me the BPOs and I will produce them fulltime ;) Capital Ships Production Forum |
Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2005.09.15 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur Hello. My name is Oveur. I am a cruiser addict.
Hi I'm Balazs Simon, and I'm a cruiser addict too... do you know my Thorax setup ? - New sig coming soon.. |
Guardian Alpha
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Posted - 2005.09.15 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: Guardian Alpha on 15/09/2005 14:34:10 All these people standing up proclaiming themselves to be addicts reminds me of 'Fight Club' the movie... ------------
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2005.09.15 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Balazs Simon
Originally by: Oveur Hello. My name is Oveur. I am a cruiser addict.
Hi I'm Balazs Simon, and I'm a cruiser addict too... do you know my Thorax setup ?
Teh king of *****s ----------------------
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.09.15 15:24:00 -
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I, my name is Hllaxiu and I have a Celestis, Thorax, Deimos and Ishtar in my hangar. Whats the problem with cruisers again?
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.09.15 16:08:00 -
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t1 Cruisers sucks in combat overall, only a few cruisers stand out in rare occations. Thorax, Maller and BB - thou the BB is only usefull cuz its EW, besides that, its utterly useless.
I¦d like to see more cruiseraction and a few more becomming a viable option in PvP, saying something¦s good in PvE dont meen squat.
I might have ATUK in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA
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Agnar Koladrov
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Posted - 2005.09.15 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dreez
t1 Cruisers sucks in combat overall, only a few cruisers stand out in rare occations. Thorax, Maller and BB - thou the BB is only usefull cuz its EW, besides that, its utterly useless.
I¦d like to see more cruiseraction and a few more becomming a viable option in PvP, saying something¦s good in PvE dont meen squat.
Indeed, my stabber and bellicose do great in PvE and yep they would be decimated in PvP. The ability for to fit a webber/scrambler/dempner/or even a WCS to current cruisers, in other words adding a med slot of a low slot, would*/could* give them more meaning in PvP.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.09.15 17:09:00 -
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OH! What is this I see? A cleverly disguised whine about things pertaining to Caldari!
I'm sorry that faction medium armor repairers are in the game but faction medium shield boosters are not. The universe just doesnt like shields ;((((
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.09.15 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist OH! What is this I see? A cleverly disguised whine about things pertaining to Caldari!
I'm sorry that faction medium armor repairers are in the game but faction medium shield boosters are not. The universe just doesnt like shields ;((((
I will not lie, I want an a-type medium gist shield booster. :( ------
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Turin
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Posted - 2005.09.15 19:33:00 -
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Jim, You were right the first time. I saw no need to correct yourself.
CCP hates cruisers.
And the only reason that dev flies one is I think that he is masochistic or something.
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