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feihcsiM
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:13:00 -
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I like the Buzzard for probing, with it's slot layout it has utility as a covert cyno or suicide point ship when needed.
Outside of the probing I have to say the a brawl fit Helios is bloody fantastic as an unexpected combat ship - 145dps (nearly 160 with void), twin webs, nearly 6k ehp against lowest resist and almost guaranteed to be engaged. It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. |
Darlew Demian
Continuum. Nuclear Confusion
0
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:44:00 -
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any suggestions on how you would fit the buzzard for lowsec probing? was thinking about trying some professional sites in lowsec, there are just too many people in HiSec....
altought i'm unshure if i should go for CovOps frig or stick around with my arbitrator |
Roime
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
2847
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Posted - 2013.05.16 10:01:00 -
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Not much difference between a covops fit for lowsec or hisec exploration. Nanos in the lows, profession mods in the mids, cloak, probes, offensive module. Medium Ancillary Shield booster is nice for tanking the random spawns and staying on the cans (I dual box a scanner who cracks the cans and an Ishtar/Proteus to handle the rats so I can run every site I find), but the major downside of covert ops is the lack of dps- there are many mag/radar sites with plenty of rats. While it's technically possible to for example drone kite them with a Helios, it's really not that sensible.
For this reason I'd go for the T1 versions, come with more combat potential and also bonus to the profession mods.
However, things will change a lot in a few weeks- skill changes and the new modules will make scanning a lot easier, and you'll probably be able to scan well with just about any ship with enough slots to dedicate for scanning enhancers... but they will also remove the rats from mags and radars, so the decision is mostly about what you want to do- combat exploration sites can be much more lucrative, and all scanning frigates are bad for those.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Vaihto Ehto
16
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Posted - 2013.05.16 10:05:00 -
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After Odyssey there's no reason to fly anything other than Buzzard or secondarily Helios. Why would you not use an alt to post on the forums? |
Darlew Demian
Continuum. Nuclear Confusion
0
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:42:00 -
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Vaihto Ehto wrote:After Odyssey there's no reason to fly anything other than Buzzard or secondarily Helios. you do know that rat's can still spawn in prof. sites because of a trigger? there is no initial spawn, but they still can show up....
btw, are prof. sites in lowsec more rentable than hisec? is it worth the risk? |
Bea Love
IX Legio Hispana Aquila Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2013.05.16 17:09:00 -
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I prefer the Anathema - it because of the warps. I dont really know - are there any aligntime base differences?! Its also looks amazing :)
(the cheetah i dont really remeber but, a time ago there were green engine trails on it?! if the engine trails would be green - i would fly the cheetah :))
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Max Von Sydow
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
235
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Posted - 2013.05.16 17:14:00 -
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When we have access to all these new modules I'd say the cov ops with the most mids. |
Ersahi Kir
Infinite Mobility SpaceMonkey's Alliance
163
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:45:00 -
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Considering that they haven't started tech II teiricide I think is a poor decision to make a ship choice based on the current covert ops ships. Picking the one you like looking at the most has extra meaning now since that's all that's likely to be the same. |
Edwin McAlister
Interstellar Engineering and Electronics INC
0
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:57:00 -
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the ultimate probe ship (at least in my opinion)
TENGU
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer (subsystem bonus 10% increase to scan strength of probes per level) Tengu Defensive - Supplementary Screening Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration (can fit covert ops cloak) Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
HIGH SLOT Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Salvager I Sister's Expanded Probe Launcher Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
MED SLOT Adaptive Invul Field II 10MN AB II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Medium Shield Booster II Codebreaker I Analyzer I
LOW SLOT Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II
RIGS Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I (this rig increases ships scan probe strength) Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
I can scan down sights and clear them with 1 ship, no swaping ships, .. swap out the modules as you think would best suit your needs, these suit me fine for what I use it for (over kill in most cases, as I operate in high sec space for the current time being, at least until back from deployment)
with the new scan modules (midslot) incomeing possibly, can swap out some of the over kill defensive stuff and replace with those
my skills and this ship, put the probes at a base sensor strength of 114.8 (vs 44 base sensor strength unmodified)
Ed |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
564
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:27:00 -
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Edwin McAlister wrote:the ultimate probe ship (at least in my opinion)
TENGU
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer (subsystem bonus 10% increase to scan strength of probes per level) Tengu Defensive - Supplementary Screening Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration (can fit covert ops cloak) Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
HIGH SLOT Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Salvager I Sister's Expanded Probe Launcher Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
MED SLOT Adaptive Invul Field II 10MN AB II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Medium Shield Booster II Codebreaker I Analyzer I
LOW SLOT Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II
RIGS Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I (this rig increases ships scan probe strength) Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
I can scan down sights and clear them with 1 ship, no swaping ships, .. swap out the modules as you think would best suit your needs, these suit me fine for what I use it for (over kill in most cases, as I operate in high sec space for the current time being, at least until back from deployment)
with the new scan modules (midslot) incomeing possibly, can swap out some of the over kill defensive stuff and replace with those
my skills and this ship, put the probes at a base sensor strength of 114.8 (vs 44 base sensor strength unmodified)
Ed
Yes but it's a Tengu. It's a carebear mission running ship. I can't bring that to null. I'm going to look like a douche.
Might as well stick a T1 cloak and a probe launcher on a faction battleship for all the laughs I'll get anyway in that case.
We miss you Saede. |
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Cameron Freerunner
Long Jump.
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:53:00 -
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Sjugar wrote:I like the cheetah for it's speed but prefer the anathema for easier fitting, having a -covops cloak, -a cyno, -an expanded probe launcher, -a microwarpdrive -AND a point
all online is a godsend in 0.0.
Try fit that and 2 nanos on any other covops, good luck.
[Anathema, prober] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
[empty med slot] Fleeting Warp Disruptor I Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I [empty med slot]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Cynosural Field Generator I Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
You can put some offline utility mods in the two free midslots.
[Cheetah, Cheetah 1] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Faint Warp Disruptor I [empty med slot] [empty med slot]
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Covert Cynosural Field Generator I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
pretty close. i'll fiddle with eft a bit more |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
85
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Posted - 2013.05.18 10:34:00 -
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I'd say #1 is either helios or anathema. Helios can fit a lot of hero tackle, TD, webscram while the anathema is (thanks to rockets) the deadliest covops. Or....
[Anathema, :censored:]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
1MN Afterburner II X5 Prototype Engine Enervator J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Expanded Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe Rocket Launcher II
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
If you want to squeeze combat in. Afterburner is very situational - in w-space, mwd is normally way preferred for zipping away from wormholes after jumping. With a mwd, you won't get caught by a lone sabre. |
Myrkala
Royal Robot Ponies Happy Cartel
61
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Posted - 2013.05.20 13:35:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Edwin McAlister wrote:the ultimate probe ship (at least in my opinion)
TENGU
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer (subsystem bonus 10% increase to scan strength of probes per level) Tengu Defensive - Supplementary Screening Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration (can fit covert ops cloak) Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
HIGH SLOT Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Salvager I Sister's Expanded Probe Launcher Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
MED SLOT Adaptive Invul Field II 10MN AB II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Medium Shield Booster II Codebreaker I Analyzer I
LOW SLOT Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II
RIGS Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I (this rig increases ships scan probe strength) Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
I can scan down sights and clear them with 1 ship, no swaping ships, .. swap out the modules as you think would best suit your needs, these suit me fine for what I use it for (over kill in most cases, as I operate in high sec space for the current time being, at least until back from deployment)
with the new scan modules (midslot) incomeing possibly, can swap out some of the over kill defensive stuff and replace with those
my skills and this ship, put the probes at a base sensor strength of 114.8 (vs 44 base sensor strength unmodified)
Ed Yes but it's a Tengu. It's a carebear mission running ship. I can't bring that to null. I'm going to look like a douche. Might as well stick a T1 cloak and a probe launcher on a faction battleship for all the laughs I'll get anyway in that case.
The only reason you would wan't a Tengu is that you can ignore bubbles... which this fit can't.
Anyways, after the patch with the new modules we might actually see T3s become even better probers than Covert Ops ships because of more midslots to fit them... |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
744
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:26:00 -
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The only thing that sucks with Helios is that puking design a-la golf man. For probing the 4 of them are nice but don't do anything else than probe or fit guns and bait other frigs, to clean your sites use another ship. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Taktar thopom
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:38:00 -
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Explothema post Odyssey :
[Anathema] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Codebreaker II Analyzer II 1MN Microwarpdrive II Cargo Scanner II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Core Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe Cynosural Field Generator I /OFFLINE
Small Emission Scope Sharpener I Small Memetic Algorithm Bank I
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