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Mynutor
Myn Mining
16
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Posted - 2013.04.15 14:50:00 -
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I have created 2 petitions in which I have reported 2 miners who are obviously botting, a few weeks ago.
- They warp into system
- Release drones
- Target nearest asteroid (usually veldspar)
- Fire both lasers at the asteroid
- after each cycle there are a few seconds of pause, and lasers are mining again
Nothing happened, they are still botting away.
My question is how do you report obvious botters I would really love to wardec them and shoot them myself, but I'm mining too, so wardec might not be a good idea...
...and I don't have the skills to fly a suicide ganker in high sec. |
Schmata Bastanold
Silver Octopus Infernal Octopus
706
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Posted - 2013.04.15 15:02:00 -
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How do you know thy are botting? Maybe it is just one guy with ISBoxer mining semi-AFK while he does something else? I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Steven Koskanaiken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
49
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Posted - 2013.04.15 15:19:00 -
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Mynutor wrote:I have created 2 petitions in which I have reported 2 miners who are obviously botting, a few weeks ago.
- They warp into system
- Release drones
- Target nearest asteroid (usually veldspar)
- Fire both lasers at the asteroid
- after each cycle there are a few seconds of pause, and lasers are mining again
Nothing happened, they are still botting away. My question is how do you report obvious botters I would really love to wardec them and shoot them myself, but I'm mining too, so wardec might not be a good idea... ...and I don't have the skills to fly a suicide ganker in high sec.
And your proof of botting.
Could be a person who multibox while semi AFK doing other stuff. |
Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
259
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Posted - 2013.04.15 16:04:00 -
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Since neither of the responses answers the question:
You can report botting via the online petitioning tool.
http://community.eveonline.com/support/petitions/
I believe you can use either exploits or EULA & Terms of Service as a category heading. Perhaps someone will correct me on this. I seem to recall that there used to be a 'report botting' option but I could be dreaming that up.
You can attach a screenshot to your petition.
One option that you can do to test for botting is to fly your ship into their ship as they mine and observe the results. Some botting programs will immediately warp off, some will fly back to the asteroid, and some won't even react but a player will typically respond in local about what you just did.
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Eliana Eros
1789
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Posted - 2013.04.15 16:13:00 -
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Fractal Muse wrote:
a player will typically respond in local about what you just did.
Not entirely true. Some players don't like talking in local for fear of being trolled with random bountys etc. Others might pm that person, or attempt to bump you in return. I know i am guilty of mining while watching a Tv show, but that does not make me a bot.
@Op Then train your char. takes maybe 9 days for an industrial char to have a solo gank ship against a bot. Who knows maybe you can even get the ore said bot was mining in addition to the modules it may drop. Then you can salvage as well if it is T2 stuff. Lets be friends?
Recuriter for hire. |
Shao Huang
University of Caille Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.04.15 16:42:00 -
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Ummmm.... Does bumping work for those not ready to jump into full on ganking? That is, can you bump the barge out of range? You would determine pretty quickly if they were a bot or semi afk that way since you might get a erm.... Response from them if they are semi afk. Maybe bots adjust for this? I dunno. "Those you see over there, with their long arms. Some of them have arms well nigh two leagues in length."-á"Take care, sir," cried Sancho. "Those over there are not giants but windmills." |
Vincenzo Arbosa
Badabing Salvage Corp
8
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Posted - 2013.04.15 17:02:00 -
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I dont know about everyone else, as I am new, but I dont always have local up and rarely pay attention to it - regardless of my current activity. If/when I have chat up (I minimize it quite a bit) I usually am using custom channels. Local isn't always the most pleasant, useful, or even tolerable conversation to be had.
If you want to engage someone in conversation, send a convo request. I did that with several miners this weekend (as I salvaged) and a good 90% of them responded. |
J'Poll
The Fiction Factory Tribal Band
2068
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Posted - 2013.04.15 18:19:00 -
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I haven't seen a single piece of proof in your OP that makes that person a bot.
Quote:* They warp into system * Release drones * Target nearest asteroid (usually veldspar) * Fire both lasers at the asteroid * after each cycle there are a few seconds of pause, and lasers are mining again
* Of course...how do you move around in system...also by warping (no proof of botting) * Well. How would you kill rats...aggressive drones (no proof) * Overview sorted by distance, select top one (no proof) * Hit F1 - F2 (no proof) * That's normal...even when you are ATK after each cycle the lasers take a small break in they visualisation (no proof).
What I see listed here has absolutely 0% proof of a bot and 100% of a typical multiboxing high-sec miner that does play another game / does real life stuff while mining.
And I don't talk or even look at local talk. I have it open in null to watch for enemies, but that's it. For chat channels I used actually channels with normal people in it and have conversations about normal stuff. When a WoW player leaves to return to WoW, the avg. IQ of both games rises. Professional Forum Thread locker. |
Zanzbar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
127
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Posted - 2013.04.15 18:35:00 -
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if all those actions were being repeated with the exact same timeing down to the second from the moment of undock till they are back in station then you would have reason to suspect a bot. but from what little info you have given us i would have to agree with the previous posters that this is likly not a bot. boting software has become much more advanced in recent years to the point where even veteran players will have doubts as to if what they are seeing is a bot or not, its best not to make a big deal about it until you have some solid proof. |
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
286
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Posted - 2013.04.15 18:41:00 -
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Mynutor wrote:I saw you mining.
- You warp into system
- Release drones
- Target nearest asteroid (usually veldspar)
- Fire both lasers at the asteroid
- after each cycle there are a few seconds of pause, and lasers are mining again
Nothing happened, you are still botting away? My question is how do I know you are obvious a botter I would really love to wardec you and shoot you myself, but I'm mining too, so wardec might not be a good idea... ...and I don't have the skills to fly a suicide ganker in high sec. FIXED |
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EmmaFromMarketing
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2013.04.15 18:52:00 -
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some pretty ******** ppl on this forum, I mean you guys know that not everyone in the world speaks English right?
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J'Poll
The Fiction Factory Tribal Band
2068
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Posted - 2013.04.15 21:59:00 -
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EmmaFromMarketing wrote: some pretty ******** ppl on this forum, I mean you guys know that not everyone in the world speaks English right?
Hmz.
Other then Flurk, nobody was complaining about the quality of his English.
Tbh, I don't see what's wrong with it (as a non native English speaking guy). I understand what he means, which in my opinion means he has typed a good OP. When a WoW player leaves to return to WoW, the avg. IQ of both games rises. Professional Forum Thread locker. |
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GM Bunyip
Game Masters C C P Alliance
19
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Posted - 2013.04.15 22:45:00 -
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Fractal Muse wrote:Since neither of the responses answers the question: You can report botting via the online petitioning tool. http://community.eveonline.com/support/petitions/I believe you can use either exploits or EULA & Terms of Service as a category heading. Perhaps someone will correct me on this. I seem to recall that there used to be a 'report botting' option but I could be dreaming that up. You can attach a screenshot to your petition. One option that you can do to test for botting is to fly your ship into their ship as they mine and observe the results. Some botting programs will immediately warp off, some will fly back to the asteroid, and some won't even react but a player will typically respond in local about what you just did.
FYI: It is actually now possible for players to directly report potential bots from in game. Simply open the character's show info window and in the top left corner click to bring up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu is the option to report the character as a bot. Simply click that button and follow the directions. Once submitted, our team will investigate that character more thoroughly and determine if they are in fact using scripts to play EVE. We encourage you guys to make full use of the in game reporting method.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Resurgent Threat
205
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Posted - 2013.04.16 00:06:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:How do you know thy are botting? Maybe it is just one guy with ISBoxer mining semi-AFK while he does something else?
Report them and let GMs investigate.
Also, send the New Order folks some intel on their location.
That way if they are completely AFK (botting) they'll get banhammered, and if they are partially AFK they'll just lose their ships and maybe pods. Keep calm and shoot blues. http://i.imgur.com/4TBw0uq.png |
Shingorash
S T R A T C O M
40
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Posted - 2013.04.16 12:25:00 -
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Can you do this with Jita scam bots? |
Werner vanDeventer
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.04.16 12:52:00 -
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Ok, I know I am WAYYY out of my league. But forgive me for I am a 100% baby / Noob in EVE - are we not allowed to be Away From Keyboard? Is there a time limit or something?
I don't have bots yet and I'm still busy with the tutorial so I do not have the skills or understand even half of what the original poster asked, but I too left to get some lunch while doing my mining tutorial. I even quit the game while on another mining run, only to "come back" the following day, with no Asteroids.
Or is it something that is just frowned upon. If the question is way off and stupid, forgive me but can somebody just clear that up for me........Thanx |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
930
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Posted - 2013.04.16 12:57:00 -
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as far as i know, you can go afk for as long as you want. just do not expect your ship to be still in one piece when you come back. especially people such as my colleagues are very keen on escorting AFK miners out of their ship and into a new clone. botting is another issue though. if you have a program interacting with the game client on your behalf, you can and should expect a ban.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Forest Archer
Explorer Corps Polarized.
37
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Posted - 2013.04.16 13:43:00 -
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Werner vanDeventer wrote:Ok, I know I am WAYYY out of my league. But forgive me for I am a 100% baby / Noob in EVE - are we not allowed to be Away From Keyboard? Is there a time limit or something?
I don't have bots yet and I'm still busy with the tutorial so I do not have the skills or understand even half of what the original poster asked, but I too left to get some lunch while doing my mining tutorial. I even quit the game while on another mining run, only to "come back" the following day, with no Asteroids.
Or is it something that is just frowned upon. If the question is way off and stupid, forgive me but can somebody just clear that up for me........Thanx
Doing something afk particularly Mining isn't against the rules though many players frown upon it, it is the use of scripts or programs that tell your ship to do actions without player imput. For example telling the ship to target and fire on asteroids or npcs, or when to warp back to station or a safe pos. Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if your in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up. |
Raiz Nhell
Kangaroo Ate my baby Orchestrated Alliance
255
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Posted - 2013.04.17 05:05:00 -
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Werner vanDeventer wrote: ... I don't have bots yet ...
Consider your next post very carefully.... The banhammer is very big and very permanent when it comes to botters
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Draik Olacar
S.H.I.E.L.D Inc.
1
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Posted - 2013.04.17 19:20:00 -
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Raiz Nhell wrote:Werner vanDeventer wrote: ... I don't have bots yet ...
Consider your next post very carefully.... The banhammer is very big and very permanent when it comes to botters by bots, i think we are talking about drones |
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J'Poll
The Fiction Factory Tribal Band
2075
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Posted - 2013.04.17 19:25:00 -
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Draik Olacar wrote:Raiz Nhell wrote:Werner vanDeventer wrote: ... I don't have bots yet ...
Consider your next post very carefully.... The banhammer is very big and very permanent when it comes to botters by bots, i think we are talking about drones
No. The OP was talking about bots...as in the illegal type of programs that play the game for you. When a WoW player leaves to return to WoW, the avg. IQ of both games rises. Professional Forum Thread locker. |
Motherthukker
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2013.04.17 19:53:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Draik Olacar wrote:Raiz Nhell wrote:Werner vanDeventer wrote: ... I don't have bots yet ...
Consider your next post very carefully.... The banhammer is very big and very permanent when it comes to botters by bots, i think we are talking about drones No. The OP was talking about bots...as in the illegal type of programs that play the game for you.
The OP was talking about bots but the guy who replied to the post you were replying to (!) sounded like he was mis-labelling drones as bots. |
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