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Mekhana
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Posted - 2011.10.17 16:48:00 -
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Starr Tookus wrote:Was this written in YC 105? All I know is The State is on the ascent while The Federation is struggling with security and cultural issues.
Security is a problem to everyone not just the Federation, including your State. I happen to be an expert in the subject in fact.
Also cultural issues? Please. The Federation has about as many cultures as we have solar systems and they come and go like presidential candidates. The closest thing the Federation has to a unified culture is when all the different cliques start to overlap into each other.
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Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:09:00 -
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Quote:So yes maybe the Caldari are shallow and all they care about is money. Lest they are honest about it instead of dressing it up in freedom, short skirts and good music.
Since when those are bad things? |
Mekhana
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Posted - 2011.10.19 10:35:00 -
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Desiderya wrote: Like a voter is a political asset. Corporations themselves are vessels to make a profit. Meritocracy means that this profit will benefit those that have worked for it. From the CEO to the most simple worker, the corporation will care and provide for their 'assets'. People take pride in the accomplishment of 'their' corporations, since they have ultimately been a part of that, as mall as it may have been.
I hear a lot of Caldari saying that it's better to live in a meritocracy than living in poverty in the Federation. The thing is that financial status is earned very similarly in the Federation. The only difference we're far more concerned with the individualistic perspective (themselves, families and society) rather than their place of their employment, that in reality nothing more than their 'job'. The Gallente business model works differently. If the employee and the society prosper so will the businesses in the area.
If I stacked boxes in Fedmart for a living I'd not bring my work home with me, after all I'm not the CEO or even a Director and honestly they would not be paying me well enough to do so either.
The only difference we have social problems to help people cope with poverty and over here no matter who you were and what you done in the past you have a good opportunity to make it back to the top. Meanwhile if you get fired from your corporation in the Caldari State your life would be pretty much ruined unless you are a capsuleer obviously. Meanwhile in the Federation all you gotta do is to make a resume and send it to attractive employers then your can get on with your life, maybe even find yourself a better one. |
Mekhana
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:58:00 -
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From Caldari sources in the IGS mostly. |
Mekhana
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Posted - 2011.10.20 05:47:00 -
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I stand corrected, I suppose. Although there's still the issue of what is illegal or not in our civilizations. Plus, corporations in the State have their own laws and police force, correct? That blurs the lines a lot, when there's many takes on interpreting and enforcing the law rather than a single consensus tied to a law system that is morally correct to its society. |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.10.21 03:26:00 -
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Desiderya wrote:There are probably differences, but you are assuming that State laws are not morally correct from the beginning?
Since laws are governed and enforced differently by each mega corporation then its safe to assume majority if not exclusively speaking only employees of the corporation would find them acceptable. I still can't understand how a business can be allowed to decide that for you. Just doesn't feel right to me. Maybe I'm just too much of a romantic?
Sticher wrote:Anyone with insight into Federation law enforcement will tell you that it's a tangle anyway. each planetary system is its own jurisdiction, hence why police vessels won't pursue a fleeing criminal ship through a stargate - they're not allowed to. Only the FIO can cross those boundaries, and even then it has to claim responsibility from the authority presently handling the case. Federal law only covers a few universals. Regions, constellations and systems each in turn have their own local laws and punishments.
By comparison, State law pertains only to corporate practice, with Corporate law being the arbiter of people's day-to-day lives inside their property and stations. If you're aboard an Ishukone station in Korama, the laws you're bound by are identical to the ones that rule the Ishukone factory station in Eygfe, in the Minmatar Republic.
Both systems create cross-jurisdictional complication. Law is not a simple thing, no matter where you are in the universe.
Yes I'm very familiar with the Federal law system. It's slightly slower here and the person that can afford the 'ace lawyer' generally wins. Suddenly, I'm in the mood for holoreels. Despite this though we have a law system that is encompassing to all of society as a whole that is the same everywhere for everyone, no exceptions. Because they are laws that uphold our moralities and personal values as not even citizens but as human beings.
Of course there's a few exceptions like in Oursulaert (wonderful place by the way) it is illegal to commit suicide and that would lead to a hefty 9,000 isk fine. Under Federal law, a capsuleer can not technically commit suicide so I always wondered who they'll be collecting the fine from if the person won't be coming back. .? |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.10.23 05:44:00 -
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In a democracy people are elected into power. Not by a few people in a boardroom either but by the entire population all across its territories. People get to vote for the highest possible position in their government to the lowest. How is this not fair?
And yes I'm aware that politicians do have to stay on top of their game, after all they do need votes. How good of a politician will be up to how well he can scale between his job and his career. Generally though these two are tied together, so even if the guy is a hawk he'll have to to serve those that elected him so he can serve himself.
Exactly due to the reason that the system isn't perfect, is the reason why it works better. |
Mekhana
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Posted - 2011.10.23 21:14:00 -
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Roden is a technocrat I'm afraid. |
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