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Sobach
Fourth Circle
100
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Posted - 2013.04.19 02:03:00 -
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so basically,
1. botters that should've been perma-banned only got a 30 day ban (as if anyone actually believed a hack wasn't against the rule) 2. conspiracy theorists and/or bot sympathizers proceeds to make Mt. Olympus out of a grain of sand
did I miss anything? |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4608
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Posted - 2013.04.19 02:19:00 -
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Loro Sordo wrote:all this mess for an autopilot at 0k ban?
but i disagree about ban without warning, even if user read EULA, same think will happen if another "eve third party software" is suddenly targeted as illegal then the same user will be perma banned.
autopilot at 0km works at least since 2010, why ban now without notice?.
im tired of all this s.h.i.t. (sry), i will dont invest more money (plex or credit card) and time (skills, time in game, etc) playing a game to be banned or perma banned cause CCP suddenly without notice for a technicism losing my chars, assets, etc.
dont count with my 60 bucks montlhy anymore.
Why the **** are you whining about autopilot at 0 being banned? It's botting, plain and simple. That has NOTHING to do with this thread. So if that makes you quit EVE then good riddance, nobody wants botters like you around anyway. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4608
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Posted - 2013.04.19 02:26:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:JT FrickinKirk wrote:This is lame policy, with an even lamer execution. "X" will get you banned, but only if you do "Y" too...probably
How is this anything other than the option to go on a power trip? It basically gives CCP the power to ban anyone they want, any time, for any reason they want. What's the point of even having a detailed policy at this point?
"Dude, you pissed me off in game...and I see you're doing cache scraping...so byebye"
I don't see how this is, practically speaking, useful. If "Y" will get you banned, and "Y" is what they care about, then just stick with making "Y" the offense.
What does this serve, other than angering players? Jesus. Because doing Y can be used for useful things as well, that the community benefits from. So they are communicating that they are willing to let doing Y continue without a ban until a better method comes along... as long as you don't use it for other malicious activities. To avoid explaining this a thousand times, perhaps it should be explained in a single dev blog... oh wait... Did you even read past his first paragraph? Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
Klarion Sythis
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
177
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Posted - 2013.04.19 02:34:00 -
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What I've learned from this thread is that working for CCP would make me drink heavily and foster a case study level of cynicism about human intelligence. There are a handful of points spread through these 26 pages but it's hard to see them through all the mental disability and entitlement.
Thanks for not banning everyone and setting the servers on fire Peligro. I'll call that a win. |
Sharr Weaver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.04.19 02:45:00 -
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As per http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/third-party-policies/ post it seems that if one group of players get banned for a violation of the EULA during your fight against GÇ£cheatersGÇ¥ then all should be treated equally. Now because it was only a small part of the population they get banned and the larger group that violated the EULA gets a warning and amnesty date of 15 April 2013. The other issue is now the Hi-sec and Null mining bots that are obvious bots or macro nothing has been done.
In business itGÇÖs all about profit. By banning a small number of the population for an EULA violation that is bloody minor i.e. AP to zero Vs 25 man bot mining fleet, just a show that you guys are GÇ£tryingGÇ¥ to curb the problem. The real issue is that banning every one using a utility that violates the game EULA will bankrupt your company due to game being GÇ£playedGÇ¥ over 50% of the time with the help of third party programs.
Also having a GM as judge jury and executioner of an EULA violaion doesnt sit well with me given CCP's past true or untrue percieved transgressions of unfair advantage by using dev right to effect game world by a large portion of the player base.
The EULA is a signed contract that binds us as the player to your preset rules conditions, while all you have said today was the signed contract means nothing to you and we can do what we please how we please and still take your money, and as long as whatever GM is on is happy with you, your time in eve will continue.
Technology is changing and the current EULA's of a lot of companies are pretty dated. Third party UI's custom, interfaces and other player modifications are becoming fairly standard in MMO's, and most every one is bannable in curent EULA's if you actually take the time to read them.
But it once again cost money to change them so it is easier to just ignore the violation than actually do any thing about it to protect the player base and not just the company.
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Nagnor
The Happy Shooters
5
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Posted - 2013.04.19 02:49:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:JT FrickinKirk wrote:This is lame policy, with an even lamer execution. "X" will get you banned, but only if you do "Y" too...probably
How is this anything other than the option to go on a power trip? It basically gives CCP the power to ban anyone they want, any time, for any reason they want. What's the point of even having a detailed policy at this point?
"Dude, you pissed me off in game...and I see you're doing cache scraping...so byebye"
I don't see how this is, practically speaking, useful. If "Y" will get you banned, and "Y" is what they care about, then just stick with making "Y" the offense.
What does this serve, other than angering players? Jesus. Because doing Y can be used for useful things as well, that the community benefits from. So they are communicating that they are willing to let doing Y continue without a ban until a better method comes along... as long as you don't use it for other malicious activities. To avoid explaining this a thousand times, perhaps it should be explained in a single dev blog... oh wait...
I think you are missing the point: In this story X is the cache scraping and Y is the botting.
Maybe another example makes it more clear: drive-by shooting The shooting part is against the rules/law (probably most will agree on this). But for convenience sake "they" also claim/clasify Driving by itself against the rules/law, but water it down by saying that (at this time) "they" will not punish people for it (but leave the option open to do so in the future) WTF |
Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
14
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Posted - 2013.04.19 02:51:00 -
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Entity wrote:Rosewalker wrote:Boris Borison wrote: If you want to make cache scrapping illegal, just encrypt it, or am I missing something here?
My understanding is that the cache files are encrypted You can stop there, your understanding is wrong.
Sorry. I guess I misunderstood this effort to create a decoder back in 2008 to read the cache files meant that the files were encrypted.
postal dude wrote: Well, it took me a few hours. I am working on a decoder for all the cachefiles at the moment. I cant tell you if the market price history is cached yet, but you can try and look at the cache yourself, a few words are plaintext in them.
The Nosy Gamer - Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength - Eric Hoffer |
Artctura
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
210
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Posted - 2013.04.19 02:53:00 -
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CCP Peligro wrote:Ereilian wrote:CCP Peligro wrote:
Ha! I wish... On a more serious note, this operation is around 2 months in the making, and the total number of accounts involved in this one (2350) is a small fraction of the number of accounts we have banned in the past year.
We are presenting a bunch of numbers and graphs at fanfest, this will be recorded. I'll put them up in a dev blog afterwards as well.
2 months for 0.005% of the player base ... time well spent? Ereilian, I won't humor you with any further replies, but the banned users are not the only ones affected by this operation. The vast majority of our players are lovely legitimate individuals who don't cheat, hack or bot, and I am sure that they appreciate our efforts in this area. As for the amount of time spent on this operation, I've spent more time replying to this thread.
Which could have *EASILY* been avoided had someone else thought before they wrote. Kudos though for cleaning up the mess.
There are things that need to be improved. There are changes to the EULA that need to come to fruition. Now that we've released the "pants on head ********" post back on page 1 was a "mistake", lets move on and make it fair.
I also think the statement needs to be "All cheating activity will earn bans, and as of now, cache scraping can only be used in conjunction with other cheats, but should it ever be possible to cheat in such a way that the only violation of the EULA is cache scraping, that will also earn a ban. As of right now, there are no programs out there that we are aware of that violate this".
Artctura for CSM 2013 |
Frying Doom
2388
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Posted - 2013.04.19 03:00:00 -
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CCP Peligro wrote:Ereilian wrote:CCP Peligro wrote:
Ha! I wish... On a more serious note, this operation is around 2 months in the making, and the total number of accounts involved in this one (2350) is a small fraction of the number of accounts we have banned in the past year.
We are presenting a bunch of numbers and graphs at fanfest, this will be recorded. I'll put them up in a dev blog afterwards as well.
2 months for 0.005% of the player base ... time well spent? Ereilian, I won't humor you with any further replies, but the banned users are not the only ones affected by this operation. The vast majority of our players are lovely legitimate individuals who don't cheat, hack or bot, and I am sure that they appreciate our efforts in this area. As for the amount of time spent on this operation, I've spent more time replying to this thread. As a player who does not cheat, bot or hack, I can say I for one do appreciate your efforts. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Apex Nebula Ventures
36
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Posted - 2013.04.19 03:01:00 -
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Pelea Ming wrote:CCP Peligro wrote:Thanks, I appreciate it! It's 7pm here in Atlanta so I will sign off after this one, but I will be back tomorrow. Does this mean i can stalk you? j/k :P I live about an hour south of you, around the Macon/Milledgville area.
I'm in between y'all, McDonough and Peachtree City most of the time.
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Artctura
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
210
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Posted - 2013.04.19 03:06:00 -
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Tasha Saisima wrote:lol at all the conspiracy theorists here thinking CCP is coming after them
The issue isn't that we think CCP is going to ban 50% of their users tomorrow. They aren't. It would financially destroy them.
Understand that the 2,350 accounts represent $40,000 a month in income. That's a lot of banning that they could have ignored and took the money. I don't doubt that CCP is trying to do what is right and fair and putting their money where there mouth is. And this was over something that a "lot" of people see as a very trivial offense.
The issue is this. Just like any other game company, CCP has it's 'less' desirable customers. The people that point out when GM's and CCP Dev's make mistakes (Like CCP Stallman stating this was "always" the policy when it was not). These customers may not always be the best to deal with, but you really can't go around just dumping them because it looks unfair to simply "ban" people who haven't broken the EULA simply for pointing out the PR mistakes that are made from time to time.
Now, imagine you're one of those customers, and at some point, you get banned for running EVEMon because CCP doesn't want to deal with you any more.
Voila, quashed dissent in one broadly interpreted EULA stroke.
Is it tin foil hattery? Sure. But this is also the same company that repeatedly denied t20 was cheating, and then when they finally came clean, they still didn't fire him.
So again, the concern isn't that CCP is going to ban everyone. The concern is that this gives them carte blanche to ban those they want to because almost everyone has used something that cache scrapes or does other things in violation of 9C. Artctura for CSM 2013 |
Pelea Ming
Prostitutes Are Always Wlling
144
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Posted - 2013.04.19 03:08:00 -
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Klarion Sythis wrote:What I've learned from this thread is that working for CCP would make me drink heavily and foster a case study level of cynicism about human intelligence. There are a handful of points spread through these 26 pages but it's hard to see them through all the mental disability and entitlement.
Thanks for not banning everyone and setting the servers on fire Peligro. I'll call that a win. Wait... you mean you don't face that issue on pretty much every forum thread? j/k :P |
Dutschetss Vilhelmena
Ordo Rosa Crux Templaris
0
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Posted - 2013.04.19 03:10:00 -
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I am a pretty solitary player, I tried playing two characters once and it was terrible trying to manage two accounts, I can not imagine how people can play more than one character without some sort of automated help.
I pay for my account, to play a fair game. Eve is hard enough as it is as a solitary player, getting jumped by automated fleets is a disincentive to paying my next subscription bill.
Ban the people who abuse the system and stay quiet about it. All this "transparency" is aiding the people who you are trying to catch, or at least dissuade from cheating. Telling us what you are doing is like a poker player showing the hand before betting.
Keep it secret, keep them afraid. Talking about it just reassures them that you are wishy-washy about enforcing the EULA.
I dunno what this EveCentral thing is about, but if it gives one player, corp or alliance an unfair advantage, I pray to the dev-gods they get perma-banned. I did use EveMon for a while, but it really never did anything more than show me my skills in an attractive format. I deleted it because it did noting good for me.
Ban the abusers and go have a drink! |
Sobach
Fourth Circle
100
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Posted - 2013.04.19 03:18:00 -
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Artctura wrote:So again, the concern isn't that CCP is going to ban everyone. The concern is that this gives them carte blanche to ban those they want to because almost everyone has used something that cache scrapes or does other things in violation of 9C.
As if CCP didn't already have carte blanche to ban whomever they want already, and would need to resort to internet lawyering to do so. |
Pelea Ming
Prostitutes Are Always Wlling
145
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Posted - 2013.04.19 03:20:00 -
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Arcaus Rotrau Romali, CCP Pel, I think CCP needs to hold one of it's near future conventions in Atlanta :D
Dutschetss, I pay for this account, and plex an alt account I pretty much use only to support this one (ie, flying haulers/freighters/orcas, mining, etc).
As for the EULA changes, let's just go total tinfoil hats and change it to read "If you get too rude and/or obnoxious, or we feel that what you do is cheating in any way, shape or form, "Boot to the head!" :P |
Pelea Ming
Prostitutes Are Always Wlling
145
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Posted - 2013.04.19 03:23:00 -
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and to support Sobach's commentary, and to point to a couple of older posts... there are plenty of countries out there where you may as well print out any EULA and use it for toilet paper. In the long run, CCP can, and will, ban anyone for anything they feel deserves a ban for. The EULA and all for any company really just boils down to a convenient place for them to point when the ban produces the inevitable QQing to provide a "justified reason" for it. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4009
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Posted - 2013.04.19 03:35:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:JT FrickinKirk wrote:This is lame policy, with an even lamer execution. "X" will get you banned, but only if you do "Y" too...probably
How is this anything other than the option to go on a power trip? It basically gives CCP the power to ban anyone they want, any time, for any reason they want. What's the point of even having a detailed policy at this point?
"Dude, you pissed me off in game...and I see you're doing cache scraping...so byebye"
I don't see how this is, practically speaking, useful. If "Y" will get you banned, and "Y" is what they care about, then just stick with making "Y" the offense.
What does this serve, other than angering players? Jesus. Because doing X can be used for useful things as well, that the community benefits from. So they are communicating that they are willing to let doing X continue without a ban until a better method comes along... as long as you don't use it for other malicious activities. To avoid explaining this a thousand times, perhaps it should be explained in a single dev blog... oh wait... Did you even read past his first paragraph? The alphabet is hard! Thanks for the catch James. Post corrected. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Atum
Apex Scientific Brothers of Tangra
75
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Posted - 2013.04.19 03:37:00 -
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Dutschetss Vilhelmena wrote:I am a pretty solitary player, I tried playing two characters once and it was terrible trying to manage two accounts, I can not imagine how people can play more than one character without some sort of automated help. I've been dual-accounting on a single machine without extra software for nine years now (ever since the Earth and Beyond sunset). Doing it in windowed mode on a single screen was tough, but doable. Having two screens, each set to full-window mode, isn't really a problem at all. Now granted, most of my time is spent in exploration and industrial type activities, so I can't say how well I'd do in a fleet fight (and I'm admittedly pretty fail at PVP), but managing two hasn't been an issue with my current setup. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4009
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Posted - 2013.04.19 03:45:00 -
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Atum wrote:Dutschetss Vilhelmena wrote:I am a pretty solitary player, I tried playing two characters once and it was terrible trying to manage two accounts, I can not imagine how people can play more than one character without some sort of automated help. I've been dual-accounting on a single machine without extra software for nine years now (ever since the Earth and Beyond sunset). Doing it in windowed mode on a single screen was tough, but doable. Having two screens, each set to full-window mode, isn't really a problem at all. Now granted, most of my time is spent in exploration and industrial type activities, so I can't say how well I'd do in a fleet fight (and I'm admittedly pretty fail at PVP), but managing two hasn't been an issue with my current setup. I run two characters occasionally, and I'll freely admit I'm a complete Klutz at it without two monitors.
I used to fly with a very sweet older lady that everyone thought was a bit of an air head... until it became apparent she was flying multiple accounts in multiple locations in EvE with complete mastery... on a single screen. She seemed to always have the right ship in the right place at the right time, usually two flipping between two or three.
I still have no idea how she got that good at it. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY
407
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Posted - 2013.04.19 04:16:00 -
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I think that the warp to 0 would be good by itself. What is the good point on allowing the autopilot to warp to 10? more time for gankers in hi-sec? more waiting time for players that have no patience to make the 30 hi-sec jumps one by one?
In 0.0 and Null-sec you never should use it for well known reasons. You have to react fast on each gate, especially if there are bubbles or gate-camps.
If you have something valuable in your cargo, you will not use autopilot. Also you would have to activate cloak, hardeners on every gate even if the autopilot would warp you to 0.
In hi-sec / low-sec most profitable ganks occur not when the ship is arriving in the gate, but when it is about to leave.
AFK = Another Free Kill.
If you read this article: http://evenews24.com/2013/04/16/mabrick-i-quit-eve/ you will se that one of the most common reason why people don't play eve or why they leave eve is the extremely long travels. I think a auto-warp to 0 would be beneficial to eve.
If there are people that risk braking the EULA just to have a warp to 0 so they can avoid more boredom. I think that maybe is time for CCP to look at it.
Warp to 10 is not a good feature of EVE, it is bad for the game.
If you compare the warp to 10 and the warp to 0 what are their good and bad points?
The warp to 10 only make player bored with eve. Please read these! > New POS system > New SOV system |
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Shefus
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
4
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Posted - 2013.04.19 04:20:00 -
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What if I run it right now? Do i get 30 days or a perma? Or do i have to wait until your security guy looks through the logs again. |
T RAYRAY
Percussive Diplomacy
24
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Posted - 2013.04.19 04:22:00 -
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i skipped ahead after page 3 or so.
I absolutely think CCP should take a look at the accounts of those players complaining so loudly and splitting hairs in the grey areas in the EULA and look hard into the tools they use to play the game. Seems like in this situation the most vocal are lkely the ones doing things to skirt right on the fine line of the EULA and the intent of the security team to find you if you're cheating.
what's the stupid old-english saying? "thou dost protest too much" or some garbage like that..
before you flame me for giving in to 'the man' and the grey areas of the EULA without a fight, let me explain that if we were IRL in the business world I live in, I'd say "bring on the grey areas" and let me find those places I can gain an advantage, however small, and however close to breaking the rules as I need to tread in order to make an extra buck.
However, this is a game. so **** off and stop cheating. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
2577
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Posted - 2013.04.19 06:06:00 -
[533] - Quote
T RAYRAY wrote:i skipped ahead after page 3 or so.
I absolutely think CCP should take a look at the accounts of those players complaining so loudly and splitting hairs in the grey areas in the EULA and look hard into the tools they use to play the game. Seems like in this situation the most vocal are lkely the ones doing things to skirt right on the fine line of the EULA and the intent of the security team to find you if you're cheating.
what's the stupid old-english saying? "thou dost protest too much" or some garbage like that..
before you flame me for giving in to 'the man' and the grey areas of the EULA without a fight, let me explain that if we were IRL in the business world I live in, I'd say "bring on the grey areas" and let me find those places I can gain an advantage, however small, and however close to breaking the rules as I need to tread in order to make an extra buck.
However, this is a game. so **** off and stop cheating.
This.
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Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
86
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Posted - 2013.04.19 06:26:00 -
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It's really a very simple answer in the end.
If you are extremely concerned that CCP will adhere to the exact letter of the EULA and ToS, then you should stop using any form of cache scraping third-party software.
The rest of us understand that, as of right now, cache scraping is the EULA equivalent of jaywalking. By saying "all client modification is illegal", CCP closes lots of loopholes. The recent kerfluffle with EUNI comes to mind, with the whole "I wasn't botting I was just using cache scraping and my own custom web scripts to do market orders really fast." Don't worry miners, I'm here to help! If you care about making EVE better, you'll vote Psychotic Monk for CSM8. |
ORCACommander
Obsidian Firelance Technologies
20
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Posted - 2013.04.19 06:44:00 -
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CCP Peligro wrote:Hi there! I answered this one earlier. CCP Peligro wrote:Nope, no worries on that one. We are after the hackers, botters and the RMTers.
Oh i know what your explicitly after i just prefer to have specific things clarified for my own legal backside :) and damn it i shoulda caught that. i was specifically scrolling through dev posts |
feihcsiM
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
212
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Posted - 2013.04.19 07:38:00 -
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"You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes"
I genuinely didn't know this. Does stuff like binding Ctrl-Click or S-Click to a mouse button count as a violation? It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. |
Lord Zim
2373
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Posted - 2013.04.19 07:44:00 -
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T RAYRAY wrote:i skipped ahead after page 3 or so.
I absolutely think CCP should take a look at the accounts of those players complaining so loudly and splitting hairs in the grey areas in the EULA and look hard into the tools they use to play the game. Seems like in this situation the most vocal are lkely the ones doing things to skirt right on the fine line of the EULA and the intent of the security team to find you if you're cheating.
what's the stupid old-english saying? "thou dost protest too much" or some garbage like that.. I was wondering when some muppet would bring this theory.
CCP can test me as much as they like for cheating, they're not going to find squat. Know why? Because there's nothing to find.
T RAYRAY wrote:However, this is a game. so **** off and stop cheating. Prove it. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
RIP Vile Rat |
SJ Astralana
Syncore
0
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Posted - 2013.04.19 07:46:00 -
[538] - Quote
An interesting non-issue. There's no way to tell what happens client-side, it can only be inferred. So if a bot clicks on an item and updates market with appropriate random delays and reasonable hours of operation, it's basically passing a Turing test. Same thing with your tools, if you use the client interactively, you're also passing a Turing test.
I defy anyone to tell the difference between a bot clicking on Export and using imported data from one simply clicking on an item and doing the same.
For my own management tool, I made a design decision long ago that click click vs click when running market imports doesn't add enough time to my daily routine to even warrant wiring up an importer to an undocumented and unsupported side effect of running a client. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4610
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Posted - 2013.04.19 07:50:00 -
[539] - Quote
Roime wrote:T RAYRAY wrote:i skipped ahead after page 3 or so.
I absolutely think CCP should take a look at the accounts of those players complaining so loudly and splitting hairs in the grey areas in the EULA and look hard into the tools they use to play the game. Seems like in this situation the most vocal are lkely the ones doing things to skirt right on the fine line of the EULA and the intent of the security team to find you if you're cheating.
what's the stupid old-english saying? "thou dost protest too much" or some garbage like that..
before you flame me for giving in to 'the man' and the grey areas of the EULA without a fight, let me explain that if we were IRL in the business world I live in, I'd say "bring on the grey areas" and let me find those places I can gain an advantage, however small, and however close to breaking the rules as I need to tread in order to make an extra buck.
However, this is a game. so **** off and stop cheating. This. Not this. Just because we're sick of CCP's doubletalk and redefining what they've previously said was fine doesn't mean we're guilty of using tools that reasonable people would consider unfair. Unless you consider my use of EVEMon to be worthy of a ban. Not to mention other tools I use which I'm not sure even interact with EVE at all apart from either capturing the DirectX output and writing it to disk (FRAPS) or overlaying specific information from other programs into the DirectX output before displayed on the screen (Mumble and Teamspeak overlays). Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3996
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Posted - 2013.04.19 08:02:00 -
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Sirane Elrek wrote:Andski wrote:I have MSVS 2010 on my PC, I guess I should get rid of it before CCP deems it a EULA violation because it can be used to not just design, but compile, debug and test botting software! upgrade to 2012, its C++ intellisense is a lot better than 2010's
If only most 3rd party libraries would work on 2012 already... Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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