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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.04.26 23:47:00 -
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N.O. WILL HAVE A FIELD DAY WITH THAT!!! BUMP THE LAST PILOTS TRYING TO GET THE LAST ICE NUGGET SO NOONE GETS THE RESPAWNS 4 HOURS LATER An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
Sabriz Adoudel
AWOXalypse
266
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Posted - 2013.04.27 00:23:00 -
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I approve of this strategy.
Alongside deshipping the same miners and pod killing them, of course. AWOXalypse is coming! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2898431 Buy shares: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=226618 An enemy is a friend you stab in the front. |
Agent Trask
New Order Logistics CODE.
153
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Posted - 2013.04.27 00:30:00 -
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Thanx!
We hadn't even thought of this. Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |
Psychotic Monk
Arctic Experiments
1156
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Posted - 2013.04.27 00:51:00 -
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Seems like a good idea. Monk for CSM Belligerent Undesirables Blog. |
Iudicium Vastus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.04.27 01:03:00 -
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We know the devs reaction to bumping as a thing. But wonder what they'll think about bumping to stop a game mechanic. |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front New Creation Collective
319
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Posted - 2013.04.27 02:10:00 -
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Iudicium Vastus wrote:We know the devs reaction to bumping as a thing. But wonder what they'll think about bumping to stop a game mechanic.
Bumping is already used to stop a game mechanic - the mechanic where the lasers can shoot the ice. I have a feeling that this wouldn't really make a difference, though. Unless I am misunderstanding something, there is no guarantee of another ice anomaly respawning in the same system after 4 hours. Therefore, the ice miners are already going to be forced to be much more mobile than they currently are, so they can just move to another system.
Miner bumping and ganking will, of course, still serve the same purposes that they do now.
Join the Revolutionary Front and liberate New Eden from it's stuff.
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bufnitza calatoare
Nex Angelus. Unclaimed.
103
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Posted - 2013.04.27 03:22:00 -
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as much as I hate mining. all one has to do to avoid bumping is log out. well that's the 1st thing that comes to mind.
oh and ccp what a bullshit cop out to fix ice belts in high sec. Now giving away isk to likes on forums posts to random likers..* Masuka Taredi 100m isk* could this be you? |
Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8113
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Posted - 2013.04.27 08:49:00 -
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bufnitza calatoare wrote:as much as I hate mining. all one has to do to avoid bumping is log out. well that's the 1st thing that comes to mind.
oh and ccp what a bullshit cop out to fix ice belts in high sec. Ice belt depletion is a damn good start, however the 4 hour respawn is a bit lame. If it had been me I'd have used the current DT asteroid belt respawn mechanic, but given that ice belts are not as commonplace as asteroid belts then a compromise along the lines of the changes was probably a given. A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3306
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Posted - 2013.04.27 10:47:00 -
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That's very likely a no go.
Keeping sites from despawning and thus keeping new sites from spawning means that you deny other people finding of new sites, which will get you slapped by the GMs.
I remember a ruling regarding this, but i can't get a lock on it in my memory.
I *really* suggest petitioning about this. |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
15
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Posted - 2013.04.27 11:08:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:That's very likely a no go.
Keeping sites from despawning and thus keeping new sites from spawning means that you deny other people finding of new sites, which will get you slapped by the GMs.
I remember a ruling regarding this, but i can't get a lock on it in my memory.
I *really* suggest petitioning about this.
You are probably thinking about the Incursion "exploit", http://community.eveonline.com/mb/news.asp?nid=incursion-site-exploit-notification
This is different from keeping the miners away from the last chunk of Ice to prevent completion of the anomaly. |
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3307
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:06:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Solstice Project wrote:That's very likely a no go.
Keeping sites from despawning and thus keeping new sites from spawning means that you deny other people finding of new sites, which will get you slapped by the GMs.
I remember a ruling regarding this, but i can't get a lock on it in my memory.
I *really* suggest petitioning about this. You are probably thinking about the Incursion "exploit", http://community.eveonline.com/mb/news.asp?nid=incursion-site-exploit-notificationThis is different from keeping the miners away from the last chunk of Ice to prevent completion of the anomaly. Ah ... that might be the case.
In any way, though, I doubt the GMs will be happy about players preventing sites from spawning ...
Or ... worse. Hahaha, imagine sites just KEEP spawning all day, with none despawning ....... XD |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10673
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:25:00 -
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Iudicium Vastus wrote:We know the devs reaction to bumping as a thing. But wonder what they'll think about bumping to stop a game mechanic.
It's not stopping any mechanic... we're saving the last roid for us to mine later when we get around to it.
Protecting profits is a legitimate reason to do anything in Eve "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Agent Trask
New Order Logistics CODE.
153
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Posted - 2013.04.28 05:08:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:
In any way, though, I doubt the GMs will be happy about players preventing sites from spawning ...
Read the latest dev-blog about Ice mining.
The reason they did this was, despite "the efforts of certain ambitious players" , too much ice was available.
We would simply be helping CCP maintain the value of Ice and Ice products.
Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |
Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
212
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:31:00 -
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If we are truly blessed, with the new scarcity of ice, we might...might I tell you....see ice mining corps wardec each other.
Madness, you say?
Well...we'll see.
We will see......
Also, watching ice bears try and kill each other in failfit combat ships would be funny. As. Hell.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8119
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:52:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Also, watching ice bears try and kill each other in failfit combat ships would be funny. As. Hell. Watch them kill each other, warp in and suicide gank the victors, then use alts to loot the whole field, because you can. A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10733
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:14:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Also, watching ice bears try and kill each other in failfit combat ships would be funny. As. Hell. Watch them kill each other, warp in and suicide gank the victors, then use alts to loot the whole field, because you can.
Watching the bears that farmed incursions try to mount counter attacks to our legitimate running of highsec incursions in blackbirds was funny as hell
We couldn't counter them because we were laughing too hard "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
LittleTerror
Illuminated Foundation Trust
39
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Posted - 2013.04.28 16:06:00 -
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Then in comes 20+ Smart bombing battleships and everyone dies, rinse repeat. Lots of tears, lots of bounties and lots of inconvenience. |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
538
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Posted - 2013.04.28 16:32:00 -
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I am reminded of a famous line from the first "Indiana Jones" movie... followed by the sound of a breech being loaded...
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10736
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:40:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:I am reminded of a famous line from the first "Indiana Jones" movie... followed by the sound of a breech being loaded...
"You Americans, you're all the same. Always overdressing for the wrong occasions." ~Toht "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8120
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:41:00 -
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LittleTerror wrote:Then in comes 20+ Smart bombing battleships and everyone dies, rinse repeat. Lots of tears, lots of bounties and lots of inconvenience fun. FTFY A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
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Sabriz Adoudel
AWOXalypse
271
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Posted - 2013.04.28 23:24:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:LittleTerror wrote:Then in comes 20+ Smart bombing battleships and everyone dies, rinse repeat. Lots of tears, lots of bounties and lots of inconvenience fun. FTFY
You need twenty?
Actually this could be really interesting. Get your corp to fit out armor tanked Skiffs heavily tanked against EM (their best native resist), and start mining in a near-depleted icefield where everyone is together. Then 'warp to 0' in a couple of in-corp smartbombing battleships that are set up with EM smartbombs, and kill all the competition while barely breaking the tanks of your own ships.
You'll get to minus 10 on the battleship pilots, but who cares? That's what the new tags are for. AWOXalypse is coming! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2898431 Buy shares: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=226618 An enemy is a friend you stab in the front. |
Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
725
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Posted - 2013.04.29 04:25:00 -
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It's fine if you're offering to sell the asteroid for a profit. Oh god. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3339
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Posted - 2013.04.29 11:01:00 -
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Agent Trask wrote:Solstice Project wrote:
In any way, though, I doubt the GMs will be happy about players preventing sites from spawning ...
Read the latest dev-blog about Ice mining. The reason they did this was, despite "the efforts of certain ambitious players" , too much ice was available. We would simply be helping CCP maintain the value of Ice and Ice products. Everybody keeps telling me to read them. I have read them right after they got publicized. I had three beer at that time.
More and more i learn, that i can't remember what was in them. ^_^ |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3339
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Posted - 2013.04.29 11:03:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:It's fine if you're offering to sell the asteroid for a profit. This.
OMG this.
Think about it.
You just camp the spot and everybody who wants in has to PAY for the privilege to mine ...
WOAH ! |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
960
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Posted - 2013.04.29 20:03:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Also, watching ice bears try and kill each other in failfit combat ships would be funny. As. Hell. Watch them kill each other, warp in and suicide gank the victors, then use alts to loot the whole field, because you can. Watching the bears that farmed incursions try to mount counter attacks to our legitimate running of highsec incursions in blackbirds was funny as hell We couldn't counter them because we were laughing too hard
Watching you take over an hour to finish a MOM was funnier to us, then when we heard you lost that many ships & didn't get paid for finishing with a fleet under 30 was iceing on top the cake An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
960
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Posted - 2013.04.29 20:11:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote: Unless I am misunderstanding something, there is no guarantee of another ice anomaly respawning in the same system after 4 hours.
You are misunderstanding. The anoms will only appear in systems that now have icebelts ( a few ammar systems though won't have these anoms ) I'm assuming that once the last icecube gets depleted the 4 hour ticker for that system starts counting down as soundwave said
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
Raiz Nhell
Kangaroo Ate my baby Orchestrated Alliance
260
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:40:00 -
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So ice belts deplete down to one cube then disappear... only to reappear 4 hours later...
So all the miners on a particular belt will be within Ice Miner range of one cube... Like pigs at the trough.
So all the targets will be within 10kms (give or take) of a known, bookmarkable location...
I think the job of scout just got a tad easier, especially if a survey scanner can determine how many more cycles the miners will be at the belt for...
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
557
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Posted - 2013.04.30 17:02:00 -
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... sits back, cracks a brew, waits for the tears to flow... the tears must flow...
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Reppyk
Yarrbear Inc. BricK sQuAD.
406
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Posted - 2013.04.30 17:17:00 -
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YOU HAVE MY STABBER
wait no
YOU HAVE MY STABBER AND MY NOTOS ARMA
yaaaaaaaay I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. -áI AM A LOWSEC GANKER, HIGHSEC SCUM, NULLSEC BASTARD, WORMHOLE INVADER. Welcome to, welcome to, welcome to my scramble. GÖÑ |
Mike Mulder
Imperial Phoenix Legion
7
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:03:00 -
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Are the new ice anoms behind an acceleration gate like some other anoms, or are they in open space like grav sites? |
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