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Florian Kuehne
Tech3 Company
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:50:00 -
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omg this art panel was so painfull LOL
but jeah u cant sell this kind of product named HD-Stream.
And the Video-guy forgot sometimes to focus the camera on the slides, i was like wtf is he doing. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
879
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:53:00 -
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I can't really judge the DUST part of the CCP Presents keynote as I don't play DUST.
But the parts of the presentation that I did understand were almost exclusively about "How can we monetize the EVE IP in new ways without losing focus?"
I guess that's a pretty interesting question if you are into product development, marketing or consider investing into CCP stock.
But as an EVE player "10 new ways to get more of your money by employing partners to produce & sell EVE merchandise" was not really what I had been looking for. TEST alt - don't trust. |
Sobach
Fourth Circle
123
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:58:00 -
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Gnoshia wrote:Yep. Sadly people will (and are) defending CCP over this. And it makes me angry because with people defending CCP over crap "expansions" like this gives CCP the go ahead to release MORE crap "expansions" because they know it's impossible to make the fan boy player base unhappy or dis-satisfied and they can divert their development and resources to other (dust) games and get get away with it.
Really infuriating.
Please do leave and let the door hit you on your way out, preferably multiple times. |
Gnoshia
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
28
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:01:00 -
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Sobach wrote:Gnoshia wrote:Yep. Sadly people will (and are) defending CCP over this. And it makes me angry because with people defending CCP over crap "expansions" like this gives CCP the go ahead to release MORE crap "expansions" because they know it's impossible to make the fan boy player base unhappy or dis-satisfied and they can divert their development and resources to other (dust) games and get get away with it.
Really infuriating. Please do leave and let the door hit you on your way out, preferably multiple times.
Please do jump off a cliff and survive to live like a vegetable.
Thank yooooou. Thank you, thank you, thank you. |
Demica Diaz
The Scope Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:12:00 -
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I think it was great fun. I enjoyed it quite alot. Even though I know that I will never play Dust514 myself, I dont feel like part of the EVE was somehow in shadow of Dust514. People were roaring when Odyssey features were shown, well maybe not when hacking tool was presented as it made me scratch my head a bit. Overall I think CCP did good job there and it seems like people had fun. |
Damion Rayne
Rules Of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
142
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:25:00 -
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Huge disappointment.
80% of fanfest was, "How can we make dust awesome and forget about eve? Like this! DUST DUST DUST!" and "how can we make more money without going F2P in Eve To?" www.kerbalspaceprogram.com Community Manager |
FFV
Hedion University Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:52:00 -
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Can someone point out which VODs I should watch for the EVE content? Im really confused looking at the twitch page, there are so much videos 6+ hrs, I dont have time to watch all this. Saw the 1 hr Eve keynote, was this the main announcement about odyssey, or was there more at fanfest? |
Florian Kuehne
Tech3 Company
6
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:53:00 -
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FFV wrote:Can someone point out which VODs I should watch for the EVE content? Im really confused looking at the twitch page, there are so much videos 6+ hrs, I dont have time to watch all this. Saw the 1 hr Eve keynote, was this the main announcement about odyssey, or was there more at fanfest?
its quit all of eve content, the other vods are mostly the same stuff.... |
Stoogie
Cadre Assault Force This is why we cant have nice things
58
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Posted - 2013.04.27 23:11:00 -
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I loved most of the big news ccp dropped for the next expansion and for the future. But I do agree there was a bit too much dust and real life lectures transmitted over the stream. I would like to have watched them as vods later but the stream seemed to lack something at times and that was eve stuff and news.
I'm really looking forward to the future of eve (including dust) but with the actual stream I would have preferred to see more eve bits. Also please please please can you start recording the round tables etc and at least release them as vods or audio files. Oh and shoot your production team there was some extremely sloppy bits of the stream especially with the audio. |
Maximus Andendare
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
143
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Posted - 2013.04.27 23:38:00 -
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DelBoy Trades wrote:I was actually pretty appalled. Like you said, 80% was about Dust, then just so much product plugging; CCP clothing, the PSVita, the VR headset, the EVE comic, the EVE collectors edition, EVE book etc. etc. Watching the stream I felt very much like I was being pitched item after item to try and take my money. I was in two minds about going, and I'm now pretty glad I didn't go, apart from a nice couple of changes to EVE, the rest was about Dust, mobile, other projects etc.
tl:dr - Unimpressed. Everthing about Eve but the game.
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baltec1
Bat Country
6106
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Posted - 2013.04.28 00:09:00 -
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People get shocked that CCP say many things about dust in the year dust goes live.
In other news, CCP have announced a tonne of stuff to do with space things that is going to keep the forum warriors busy for at least the next six months. |
Ckra Trald
Stellar Essence STELLAR CONSTELLATION
152
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Posted - 2013.04.28 00:25:00 -
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CCP needs to make EvE fanfest Eve Fanfest!
Not dust fanfest, it feels like they just crammed tons of stuff in for advertising and not having to rent the place for longer ^^ poorly made blunt forum post above ^^ |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2408
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Posted - 2013.04.28 00:33:00 -
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It was pretty flat. Not a lot of reveals. I got the feeling they don't know what they are really going to do with eve. Player built stargates and new modular POS system would be cool... but I got the sense it was just "cloud talk" and nothing was really in development yet. Guess we'll see... yah not much interesting new info. Maybe they'll make up for it with blogs...
At least we get a Genosis though!
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DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
536
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Posted - 2013.04.28 00:33:00 -
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Gnoshia wrote:Yep. Sadly people will (and are) defending CCP over this. And it makes me angry because with people defending CCP over crap "expansions" like this gives CCP the go ahead to release MORE crap "expansions" because they know it's impossible to make the fan boy player base unhappy or dis-satisfied and they can divert their development and resources to other (dust) games and get get away with it.
Really infuriating. I couldn't agree more. Not sure why people keep defending CCP over this, are they expecting a pat on the back? All they are doing is showing indifference to them spending less development resources on EVE and more on Dust and mobile bullshit, I doubt most of these forum warriors even play anymore...
Damn nature, you scary! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13902
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Posted - 2013.04.28 00:48:00 -
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DelBoy Trades wrote:Not sure why people keep defending CCP over this Simple: because they're offering a solid expansion with much-needed and long-awaited changes, along with more tools for us to create gameplay.
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Kinis Deren
The Nyan Cat Pirates The Retirement Club
175
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Posted - 2013.04.28 00:54:00 -
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Sorry dudes, but I'm going to defend CCP here. I understand your frustration that Fanfest may not have been completely full of EVE Online content, but does this not show that New Eden is expanding and the continued integration of DUST 514 as part of the same universe? Fanfest 2014 is going to be very interesting but I do wonder if 3 days will be long enough to cover everything next time.
With regards to Odyssey, I believe many of the changes introduced will be as awesome for the game as Retribution turned out to be. I strongly believe CCP are going down the right path with the emphasis of enabling players to drive content, rather than short term attention grabbing Jesus Features.
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Marcus Arcturus
Promethean Industries
3
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Posted - 2013.04.28 00:56:00 -
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I've had a truly awesome time. The round tables were generally interesting and the Key Notes had some great moments. I was as ecstatic as the rest of the crowd when they mentioned the change to scanning but a chill went up my spine when CCP Seagull suggested we we are going to get to build star gates and that Dust Mercenaries would become our boarding parties in fleet warfare.
Bur most of the value I'll take away didn't happen on the stage. I got to chat with Zapatero (EON Magazine's fomer editor) about the great moments in EVE history and it's wonderful characters; I met Seleene and some of his wing mates and heard first hand of the rise and fall of BDCI and the Mercenary Coalition; CEO Hilmar sat at my table at dinner and conveyed his passion for the game, his vision and the talented people he has gathered around him; CCP Rippley the mother Godess, Thor-like CCP Xhagen and CCP Dolan a talented team builder were delighted I crossed the room to introduce myself; CSM members Trebor, Two Step and Hans Jagerblitzen all had time to chat about the game.
And I haven't mentioned the married couple from Indiana who've tried all the other games and decided this is the one; the 39 year old software engineer who fell in love with Elite as an 8 year old and now camps gates preying on industrialists like me happily telling me tactics for avoiding them; the Swedish business owner who makes Capitals for a null sec alliance sharing with me insights on moon-mining in hostile territory.
I come away not being able to decide which is more interesting, the EVE stories or the real stories but certain that this game is touching an immense cross section of society, in every demographic, in every corner of the world, many more of whom I can now call friend all because I decided to spend a weekend in April in Iceland with a bunch of people who also love this game.
Note to self: that was a great decision. |
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
308
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Posted - 2013.04.28 00:57:00 -
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Gogela wrote: I got the feeling they don't know what they are really going to do with eve.]
I definitely got that feeling, the grand vision is sort of gone now that they have strict limits on what kind of content they can introduce after the Incarna fiasco. That said, the direction they are taking is a good one, as in it won't hurt the game.
I really enjoyed hearing from Kristoffer Touborg. He is an extremely talented game designer, and it's great to hear his thought processes when it comes to new features/ideas and the future of Eve. Ideas like "less places, bigger places", the war on loading bars, the in space scanner sweep, and the new minigame (which while odd, is a creative way for people to bring friends. 10x better than the "50% income bonus per person" approach that CCP of the past would have.) are just spot on, and could transform eve into a much more social and engaging game.
If we get a year or two of adding features like in space scans and the new jump animations, Eve is going to be so much more enjoyable to play, and new player retention will skyrocket. Assuming Dust doesn't tank in the meantime, I think it will be appropriate to talk about bigger things again, but for now CCP is playing it safe, and doing a damn good job of it. Doesn't make for an exciting fanfest, but oh well |
Rhivre
TarNec
69
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Posted - 2013.04.28 00:59:00 -
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I loved the stream, more changes of pants needed in 3 days than expected!
Going to have to finally make the effort to go there next year.
Very excited about the announced changes, and the hinted at ones |
None ofthe Above
539
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Posted - 2013.04.28 01:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Nah. It was ok, and to be expected. The only thing that was missing was silly CCP internal videos and self-referential skits. No HTFU or CCP Space Program. Pah!
There was no silly space program this time, because this year the CCP Space program was for realz:
Asteriod Mining - http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2208258 FTL - http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2204012
And unfortunately the most exciting to me is not available as a link - Lunar Elevator with today's technologies.
CCP actually helped fund a Kickstarter for one of the most concrete ideas to revolutionize space exploration (and exploitation) that could happen in the next decade.
Now that's expansion of the serious bizness of spaceships.
Odyssey is pretty exciting too as I see it, it could have been more, sure. New space would have been fantastic and that's clearly were we are going later.
I am fully prepared to criticize CCP when warranted. But in this case I think the people that are complaining are just showing that they are pretty much impossible to please. I hope you voted, you glorious but often apathetic bastards! STV working as intended; Pre-elections and Get out the Vote, room for improvement. |
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None ofthe Above
539
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Posted - 2013.04.28 01:08:00 -
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Florian Kuehne wrote:The funny thing is, they said like 100 times today that DUST is free but who pays for it? wait....
IF CCP brings stuff like incursions, brings a big bunch of important fixes and big stuff like this then we can talk.
Dust is free to play but is making a ton of money on microtransactions in BETA.
Earlier announcements stated that they financed the development and its not coming out of revenue from eve players. If anything it is giving EVE more resources to work with, as far as I can tell. I hope you voted, you glorious but often apathetic bastards! STV working as intended; Pre-elections and Get out the Vote, room for improvement. |
Atedar Kerane
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.04.28 01:56:00 -
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Menero Orti wrote:So far this year was a major disappointment ..it's like 80% DUST marketing and 20% EvE... what do you guys think?
Your thread is bad and you should feel bad
You want to learn about EVE content? Watch the EVE Keynote again
What you're referring to is the "CCP Presents" presentation which is about all kinds of interesting projects CCP is working on. They finally got the store working again, they have an amazing collectors edition of the game to celebrate the first decade honoring the history of the game development of EVE Online. They are doing demo projects with Ocolus Rift to explore new areas in gaming (it's freaking amazing btw)....oh... and you got to see Guard wave a sword around...
Space elevators in Dust would affect you as an EVE player, the weapons they use, you would be producing, which affects you as an EVE player. Dust is part of our universe, deal with it
My god, could people stop whining and be a bit appreciative of the amazing work CCP does?
I for one were impressed by the "CCP presents" presentation... but then again... "I was there"...
(Oh, and as I side note, the new trailer is the best one yet in my opinion, and the sound was so loud I could litterally feel my organs shaking inside me when the wormhole collapsed... freaking awesome!!) |
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
788
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:08:00 -
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That was the BEST DJ EVERRRRRR!
CEO of B.U.T.T.
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Menero Orti
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:20:00 -
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Atedar Kerane wrote:Menero Orti wrote:So far this year was a major disappointment ..it's like 80% DUST marketing and 20% EvE... what do you guys think?
Your thread is bad and you should feel bad You want to learn about EVE content? Watch the EVE Keynote again What you're referring to is the "CCP Presents" presentation which is about all kinds of interesting projects CCP is working on. They finally got the store working again, they have an amazing collectors edition of the game to celebrate the first decade honoring the history of the game development of EVE Online. They are doing demo projects with Ocolus Rift to explore new areas in gaming (it's freaking amazing btw)....oh... and you got to see Guard wave a sword around... Space elevators in Dust would affect you as an EVE player, the weapons they use, you would be producing, which affects you as an EVE player. Dust is part of our universe, deal with it My god, could people stop whining and be a bit appreciative of the amazing work CCP does? I for one were impressed by the "CCP presents" presentation... but then again... "I was there"... (Oh, and as I side note, the new trailer is the best one yet in my opinion, and the sound was so loud I could litterally feel my organs shaking inside me when the wormhole collapsed... freaking awesome!!)
No offense but your such a TOOL. |
Damion Rayne
Rules Of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
142
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:27:00 -
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Tippia wrote:DelBoy Trades wrote:Not sure why people keep defending CCP over this Simple: because they're offering a solid expansion with much-needed and long-awaited changes, along with more tools for us to create gameplay.
What? Are you smoking crack? How is this an "Expansion" it adds absolutely nothing new what so ever, it's all graphics and balance and some fixes. It's NOT an expansion, it's a polish update and nothing more. Still, good polish regardless but stop calling it an expansion. ROA |
PotatoOverdose
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
112
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:31:00 -
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Honestly there was/is/will be a bunch of eve related content in odyssey: -New gate animations+pretty sensor sweep -probe deployment -tags for sec status -revamped archaeology -revamped hacking -v3'd capitals -improved station interiors and gate graphics -*4x hi res textures* -warp to [select your range here] instead of just 0, 5k, 10k, etc. -nullsec industry, ore, and resource re-balance (aka tech nerf that everyone asked for + improved nullsec manufacturing) -largest ship rebalance ever, all t1 bs, faction cruiser, faction bs, some faction frigs -navy battlecruisers -gnosis for everybody
In all honesty, this is probably one of the larger eve expansions in a while. Granted, a large chunk of fanfest wasn't about eve exclusively, but there was a great deal of info on eve none the less.
Also, the occulus rift game looked absolutely amazing and received significant media attention, which is good for eve as a whole. And building your own stargates is a cool idea. |
Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
337
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:44:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Honestly there was/is/will be a bunch of eve related content in odyssey: -New gate animations+pretty sensor sweep -probe deployment -tags for sec status -revamped archaeology -revamped hacking -v3'd capitals -improved station interiors and gate graphics -*4x hi res textures* -warp to [select your range here] instead of just 0, 5k, 10k, etc. -nullsec industry, ore, and resource re-balance (aka tech nerf that everyone asked for + improved nullsec manufacturing) -largest ship rebalance ever, all t1 bs, faction cruiser, faction bs, some faction frigs -navy battlecruisers -gnosis for everybody
In all honesty, this is probably one of the larger eve expansions in a while. Granted, a large chunk of fanfest wasn't about eve exclusively, but there was a great deal of info on eve none the less.
Also, the occulus rift game looked absolutely amazing and received significant media attention, which is good for eve as a whole. And building your own stargates is a cool idea.
How is that not a large list?
Don't forget how CCP stole money out of my wallet in game and out.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7706
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:48:00 -
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What?
We get a content-heavy expansion every 12-18 months and the expansions between them tend to iterate on content added in the past. The content added in those expansions is immediately available to every subscriber, and we don't have to pay extra money for it, not a single dime. Stop complaining. mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters [url]http://themittani.com/[/url]: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
Guru Man
Progressive State State Section 9
1
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:53:00 -
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Party is over :(
The fanfest did not deliver many new toys and dust is taking space, but CCP is fixing and balancing all the stuff we previously complained they should fix instead of introducing new things. They make EVE a better game, they listen to the players like never before (they also hire dedicated ones), they take the CSM into account.
I felt a little disappointing about the presentations but what it looks like to me, is that fixing broken stuff is taking most of the resources. I talked with some developers and not what they had to say about the design or features it got me thinking but the fact that they are really dedicated, honest people that love what they do and that gave me great hopes for the future.
See U next year !
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Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
252
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:54:00 -
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With regards to the lack of huge changes. Ever since they ****** up on the noble exchange and their faceplant into microtransactions they promised that they would focus much much more on iteration and not "Jesus features" TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages |
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