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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.09.29 14:55:00 -
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If you have a low sec status, and haven't pirated or lost sec status in a while, it should slowly repair itself. For example, I pirated like 3 months ago and haven't since. I am obviously less of a threat to innocent miners now than i was 3 months ago, so shouldn't my sec status reflect that fact? I mean I'm not saying that a pirate should go back to 0.0 in a week, but maybe say .1 sec repaired every week that goes by without a loss of sec status or something. It isn't enough to make a difference on the people who gank daily/weekly/montly (as even in a month you only gain .4 sec), but it would be a good little bonus way for a reformed pirate to get his sec up what with 750ks not giving .4 anymore.
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:01:00 -
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:04:00 -
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You mean like it used to?
I agree, and 0.1 per day was about right too. ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
Heinky
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:04:00 -
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It used to be 0.1 gain per day it think, way back tho.
Ive been doing some npcing and i lost 0.6 pretty fast, but its still like around 100 hours for someone with -10 to get back to -1,9(1.0 sec systems).
Its a good idea about the 1 week thing, coz if the guy has not killed in 0.1-0.4 for a week hes not really a threat.
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Rogain Shortshot
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:04:00 -
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ummmm. "Terminate" and start again? Make an alt and escrow it all to him and hit that ol redo button?
I did.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:05:00 -
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IF U CANT DO THE TIME, DONT DO THE CRIME!!!!
On a more serious note, you won't get carebear support for this, eventhough "it makes sense" and could be adjusted to take longer than what it takes with current whoring NPC's system.
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:06:00 -
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do it ccp, do it
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rogain Shortshot ummmm. "Terminate" and start again? Make an alt and escrow it all to him and hit that ol redo button?
I did.
LOL!! WTF!!! Terminate a 2 year+ age char and start again, are you f0cking crazy?!!!!
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Kjewla
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:08:00 -
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/signed
Nest etter styrken er ingenting st°rre enn evnen til Ơ beherske den.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Avon You mean like it used to?
I agree, and 0.1 per day was about right too.
.1 per day is way too fast.
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:14:00 -
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If you do that, make the sec hits bigger for ship kills.
Part time pirates 4tl.
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Weebear
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:15:00 -
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3 months isn't a long time though. I don't agree with gaining 0.1 per day, that is far to easy.
Something like crimes that you commit drop off after 3 months would be more appropriate. That way you gain back at the rate you lost it more or less.
Much in the same way as you get points on your drivers license and they drop off after 3 years. |
ASIV TRE
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:18:00 -
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I agree would help to bridge the gap some what
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Mahu
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:18:00 -
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Hmmm No thanks I worked hard to get my sec down to -7.
I work away for 4-6 weeks at a time so I'd be horified to come back to see all my hard killing to have gone to waste.
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Weebear 3 months isn't a long time though. I don't agree with gaining 0.1 per day, that is far to easy.
Something like crimes that you commit drop off after 3 months would be more appropriate. That way you gain back at the rate you lost it more or less.
Much in the same way as you get points on your drivers license and they drop off after 3 years.
Took me less than a week to get to -10... and that was just part time piracy, so...
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Skogul
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:22:00 -
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.01 per day is about right
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Weebear
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains
Originally by: Weebear 3 months isn't a long time though. I don't agree with gaining 0.1 per day, that is far to easy.
Something like crimes that you commit drop off after 3 months would be more appropriate. That way you gain back at the rate you lost it more or less.
Much in the same way as you get points on your drivers license and they drop off after 3 years.
Took me less than a week to get to -10... and that was just part time piracy, so...
Took me less than 2 weeks to get six points on my license, but luckily the cops don't judge traffic offences on how fast you get them, they just drop off after 3 years.
I mentioned in another thread, that I thought -10 was only the lowest number that was displayed, and that your actual status goes lower. If this is true, then even though you got to -10 in a week, the system still takes into account how long you continued to pirate afterwards. |
ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:24:00 -
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signed, or look into the security system more deeply.
Killing the rich and giving to me |
Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Princess Beefcurtains on 29/09/2005 15:28:03
Originally by: Weebear
Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains
Originally by: Weebear 3 months isn't a long time though. I don't agree with gaining 0.1 per day, that is far to easy.
Something like crimes that you commit drop off after 3 months would be more appropriate. That way you gain back at the rate you lost it more or less.
Much in the same way as you get points on your drivers license and they drop off after 3 years.
Took me less than a week to get to -10... and that was just part time piracy, so...
Took me less than 2 weeks to get six points on my license, but luckily the cops don't judge traffic offences on how fast you get them, they just drop off after 3 years.
I mentioned in another thread, that I thought -10 was only the lowest number that was displayed, and that your actual status goes lower. If this is true, then even though you got to -10 in a week, the system still takes into account how long you continued to pirate afterwards.
if you go to show member info in right click tab on a char in your corp you will see their exact sec status. a -10 char never actually gets to -10, it is always at an integer of -9.9 (mine is currently -9.96782034985 or something like that)
ooh and if you want to use your rl example there, do you then think that after 3 months of non piracy we should be put back to 0.0?
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Espen
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:28:00 -
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signed
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:30:00 -
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why are people saying i said .1 per day? Please point out where it says that in my post.
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Avon You mean like it used to?
I agree, and 0.1 per day was about right too.
/emote blames that dastardly Avon fella
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Weebear
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains
if you go to show member info in right click tab on a char in your corp you will see their exact sec status. a -10 char never actually gets to -10, it is always at an integer of -9.9 (mine is currently -9.96782034985 or something like that)
ooh and if you want to use your rl example there, do you then think that after 3 months of non piracy we should be put back to 0.0?
So it just goes off to an unknown amount of decimal points. It is still adding to that number when you kill something, and it is subtracting the same amount in three months time when it forgets about it.
If you got to -10 within a week, and then stopped for 3 months, I wouldn't care if you went back to 0.0 a week after that. I don't see what advantage a pirate gets from waiting 3 months plus just to get a 0.0 status.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:38:00 -
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To be honest I'd rather be able to pay for sec increases, say maybe 100m ISK per 1.0. So if one day I decided I wanted to go and mine veld in 1.0s and fly towards gates with 5 other BS fitted with mining lasers next to me with no one shooting and people AFK without fear of.... oh, it's too horrible to think about, but say if I did want to go from -10.00 to 0.0 it would cost me a quite a whack.
I agree with 'part time pirates ftl', but for people who just want to try it or for long time pirates that eventually decide on a career change, the current system is very limited. For instance, if I ever decided I wanted to get rid of my lovely -10.00 and become a Merc or an Alliance lackey or something (lol) I'd have to die of boredom shooting bloody NPCs.
Originally by: James Lyrus Complaining about PvP & Pirates in EVE is like complaining about the mines in minesweeper. |
Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Weebear
Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains
if you go to show member info in right click tab on a char in your corp you will see their exact sec status. a -10 char never actually gets to -10, it is always at an integer of -9.9 (mine is currently -9.96782034985 or something like that)
ooh and if you want to use your rl example there, do you then think that after 3 months of non piracy we should be put back to 0.0?
So it just goes off to an unknown amount of decimal points. It is still adding to that number when you kill something, and it is subtracting the same amount in three months time when it forgets about it.
If you got to -10 within a week, and then stopped for 3 months, I wouldn't care if you went back to 0.0 a week after that. I don't see what advantage a pirate gets from waiting 3 months plus just to get a 0.0 status.
the extra automatic 0.1 sec increase per week would be on top of any sec gained by ratting etc so speed up the process of gaining sec just enough to make it not so ridiculously difficult. the lowed your sec is the more the % sec increase has an effect on your sec status and the % decreases have less of an effect. its the same with + sec status and loss/gain
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains
Originally by: Avon You mean like it used to?
I agree, and 0.1 per day was about right too.
/emote blames that dastardly Avon fella
Thing is, the automatic sec gain was never really an issue. You can rat your sec up faster anyway.
What the 0.1 gives is a chance for a character who has failed as a pirate to reform eventually, without the need for a battleship and lots of npcs.
It isn't a fast way to recover, and you have to stop attacking people for it to work. 3+ months of being good is a fair indication of a reformed character.
Also, it helps out those miners who take pot shots at ore thieves and the like. ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
Rogain Shortshot
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Posted - 2005.09.29 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains
Originally by: Rogain Shortshot ummmm. "Terminate" and start again? Make an alt and escrow it all to him and hit that ol redo button?
I did.
LOL!! WTF!!! Terminate a 2 year+ age char and start again, are you f0cking crazy?!!!!
2k for a clone is a lot better then 12 million, and it gives me a chance to redo my mistakes I made with the two year old character...goodbye 22million skill points hello 60k more fun and less mistakes.
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.09.29 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rogain Shortshot
Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains
Originally by: Rogain Shortshot ummmm. "Terminate" and start again? Make an alt and escrow it all to him and hit that ol redo button?
I did.
LOL!! WTF!!! Terminate a 2 year+ age char and start again, are you f0cking crazy?!!!!
2k for a clone is a lot better then 12 million, and it gives me a chance to redo my mistakes I made with the two year old character...goodbye 22million skill points hello 60k more fun and less mistakes.
Very silly thing to do if you are telling the truth tbh, you could have sold the char for isk and started with a nice wedge...
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2005.09.29 16:18:00 -
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you shouldnt gain sec as a pirate per day liek the old system, instead give a sec gain (small of course) for a time period where you have not had a sec penalty (ie: killing people), so basically a time based sec improvement for good behaviour, this way active pirates remain so, and people who sporadically kill (part time pirates/reformed pirates or bounty hunters/mercs) gain back some sec.
keeps the guilty punuished and the rare criminals on probation. __________________________________________
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Dryxonedes Sae
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Posted - 2005.09.29 16:21:00 -
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Maybe something similar... You have a "cool off" period, of say, a fortnight, which you would notify concord of. During this period, any aggression which would cause sec loss would result in a much heavier penalty than current (say 3x?). If you went through your 2 week "cool off" then you can start to lose 0.2-0.25 per week. To insure it's genuine intention to reform your habits, any aggression which would result in a sec loss, reduces you back to your standing pre-cool off. Also mark the player with a tag similar to the bounty so others can see. Finding a way around -10 pirates using this so players would think themselves safe till too late would need to be looked at but... Maybe make it unavailiable for under -7.5?
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