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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.05.03 06:41:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Frying Doom wrote:I miss spoke, people who have poor communication skills for a role as Chairman of the CSM. List them, please. Well off the top of my head, how about we start with Mynnna. This is a thread about the CSM Chairman and at no point has he come forward with why he would make a good communicator and subsequently make a Good Chairman.
We are 8 pages in and the level of communication as to why he would be an excellent choice for the position has been, 0.
Now you could argue that I am not a member of the CSM and only a player, so I don't deserve the reasons why but a good communicator would realize that as a member of the player base in a public forum, this is exactly the place to list those qualities.
Next how about Trebor, he had his chance to communicate during CSM, he dropped the ball so badly it still has not been found.
Those are the two that before the election ended said they would try for the position.
But if you have a problem with the Chairmans position now being about communication, it is CSM7 who assisted in changing the white paper, not I. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1289
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Posted - 2013.05.03 06:45:00 -
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So mynnna is out because he hasn't explained to you personally why he would make a good chair even though you have literally zero influence on the decision, and Trebor is out because he was bad at communication last year.
That's it? Or are there more? It doesn't seem like you've put much thought into this.
"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.05.03 06:51:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:So mynnna is out because he hasn't explained to you personally why he would make a good chair even though you have literally zero influence on the decision, and Trebor is out because he was bad at communication last year.
That's it? Or are there more? It doesn't seem like you've put much thought into this.
I would bother to go through more but I was expecting a rather pointless response, for example "So mynnna is out because he hasn't explained to you personally why he would make a good chair even though you have literally zero influence on the decision" as I said this is a public forum and the voters are the people who need to know the why just as much as the other CSM members do. Inability to grasp that by itself is example enough of poor communications. The fact that a member of the voting population went to the trouble to write a thread as to why Mynnna would not be a good chairman, is reason enough to respond as to why.
As to Trebor, you don't believe past performance, is an indication to inability?
You are now just grasping at straws, so you can justify a member of your alliance taking the Chairman's position just for his ego. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1289
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Posted - 2013.05.03 06:54:00 -
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"Guys I could totally list more but I won't because reasons"
- Frying Doom
List the members that are poor at communication. You've got two so far, and both with pretty spurious reasons (Trebor's should have been easy but you even found a way to **** that one up too). There's 11 to go, since Mike Azariah is clearly your boy. Make with the list already. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.05.03 06:56:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:(Also please note the irony of "he hasn't explained himself to me" being a clear strike against him when you talk about doing things for ego) Oh and as to your irony edit.
All it has to do with me is that I posted the thread, it was he that would not come forth and answer as to why he would be a communicator to all those who read these forums. As there are a lot more lurkers on here than there are posters. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.05.03 06:59:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:"Guys I could totally list more but I won't because reasons"
- Frying Doom
List the members that are poor at communication. You've got two so far, and both with pretty spurious reasons (Trebor's should have been easy but you even found a way to **** that one up too). There's 11 to go, since Mike Azariah is clearly your boy. Make with the list already. No i did not list more as I said as you would just make up useless excuses.
As you did not bother to actually think about what I wrote there is little point continuing the list as you will just continue to ignore it.
Lets face it "Trebor is out because he was bad at communication last year." I try and avoid saying this but
Yeah, Duh Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1289
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Posted - 2013.05.03 07:02:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:All it has to do with me is that I posted the thread, it was he that would not come forth and answer as to why he would be a communicator to all those who read these forums. As there are a lot more lurkers on here than there are posters.
You didn't just post the thread, you posted the thread, complete with your ~personal recommendation~ and a rather inflammatory stance on a chair that may be from nullsec and the effects it would have. It's only when you're asked for a concise explanation of anything you say that you get all stupid and blurf on and on about mynnna as if he's the only person who may get the chair.
Right now I'm asking for your reasoning in saying that Mike Azariah is the best choice for the job, especially now that you've shifted your own personal narrative from "nullsec is bad" to "bad communicators". Your failure to do that is only furthering your irrelevance, which I guess is shocking enough that there's still room for it to sink.
If you want any further discussion on specific candidates, either complete your list OR concede that your list of bad communicators ends with the only two you mentioned. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Frying Doom
2459
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Posted - 2013.05.03 07:11:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Frying Doom wrote:All it has to do with me is that I posted the thread, it was he that would not come forth and answer as to why he would be a communicator to all those who read these forums. As there are a lot more lurkers on here than there are posters. You didn't just post the thread, you posted the thread, complete with your ~personal recommendation~ and a rather inflammatory stance on a chair that may be from nullsec and the effects it would have. It's only when you're asked for a concise explanation of anything you say that you get all stupid and blurf on and on about mynnna as if he's the only person who may get the chair. Right now I'm asking for your reasoning in saying that Mike Azariah is the best choice for the job, especially now that you've shifted your own personal narrative from "nullsec is bad" to "bad communicators". Your failure to do that is only furthering your irrelevance, which I guess is shocking enough that there's still room for it to sink. If you want any further discussion on specific candidates, either complete your list OR concede that your list of bad communicators ends with the only two you mentioned. Mike is the best choice for the CSM as the PR benefits to the CSM would be immense and after all these years of Null sec Chairman I believe it would help n the CSM9 elections for voter turn out, as well as voter education throughout the next 11 months and CCP actually supporting the CSM at the start of the election rather than the end.
Also as I said originally he describes himself as "I have been active in the community since 2008.. I currently help host the podcast Podside, I have had a blog as a proud member of the Eve Blog Pack for more than four years. I have written for Eon and the Eve Tribune, often doing commentary on the CSM."
He has a blog, he has the necessary communication skills and on top of it all he is from Hi-sec.
Given that CSM7 allowed the STV system to be implemented, so now we have 10 Null sec members, voter interest will drop even further unless CCP really stick their foot in it.
As I said the Chairman's position is now a communication position, and given the high level of null representation CSM9 could be the least representative yet to come, unless something is done. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1289
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Posted - 2013.05.03 07:15:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:If you want any further discussion on specific candidates, either complete your list OR concede that your list of bad communicators ends with the only two you mentioned.
"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.05.03 07:32:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Snow Axe wrote:If you want any further discussion on specific candidates, either complete your list OR concede that your list of bad communicators ends with the only two you mentioned. Then might I suggest you look up the word discussion.
Not that it matters much. This thread has ascertained that Mynnna and Trecbor are ill suited for the role of communicator.
While a Hi-sec member would be beneficial to the CSM, I do agree that there other members on the CSM that are excellent communicators, Ripard Teg for example would be reasonable choice, so long as the reasoning is what is best for the CSM, not just what is best for Null or one of its alliances. With 10 members of the CSM being from Null, it would be a wasted PR opportunity for a Null member to take the chairmanship.
So if The position went to a proven good communicator, ego might still play a part but, if a poor communicator takes the chair. well then it is definitely ego. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1289
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Posted - 2013.05.03 08:04:00 -
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So I'll assume that to mean your list is finished at two (2) poor communicators.
mynnna, a regular TMDC contributor, is ruled out because he didn't justify himself to you. You have ZERO influence over the decision. Thus, I conclude he's at the very least an efficient communicator, given he quickly recognized that you are a completely irrelevant part of this process and thus do not merit an explanation. What kind of communicator would waste their time blabbing about nonsense to everyone in earshot "just because"?
As you've yet to mention any other justification of his being a poor communicator, we can also conclude from this that your ego is through the ******* roof, as it was his failure to explain himself TO YOU that was the deciding factor between mynnna being good enough and not being good enough.
Your second entry was Trebor, the only candidate I'd agree with, though not for your reasoning. You posit that he has poor communcation skills by saying "CSM 7" a lot while failing to provide any examples. Had you gone the easy route and pointed out that the content of his communications (both with players and CCP) are sometimes deplorable and represent a not-great direction for the CSM from a player's perspective, you might have had your "broken clock" moment, but alas.
You're 0 for 2 on your criticisms, and you somehow didn't even mention progod, which should have been the "gimme" of any list what with no blog or twitter or campaign for that matter (the horror!). This means that your endorsement of Mike Azariah is based solely on his highsec residence, a concept which he roundly rejected via his only post in this thread.
tl;dr your ideas are terrible, your arguments are trash, and your mere presence in Jita Park is a pestilence on the CSM process. Go away. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Frying Doom
2459
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Posted - 2013.05.03 08:24:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:So I'll assume that to mean your list is finished at two (2) poor communicators.
mynnna, a regular TMDC contributor, is ruled out because he didn't justify himself to you. You have ZERO influence over the decision. Thus, I conclude he's at the very least an efficient communicator, given he quickly recognized that you are a completely irrelevant part of this process and thus do not merit an explanation. What kind of communicator would waste their time blabbing about nonsense to everyone in earshot "just because"?
As you've yet to mention any other justification of his being a poor communicator, we can also conclude from this that your ego is through the ******* roof, as it was his failure to explain himself TO YOU that was the deciding factor between mynnna being good enough and not being good enough.
Your second entry was Trebor, the only candidate I'd agree with, though not for your reasoning. You posit that he has poor communcation skills by saying "CSM 7" a lot while failing to provide any examples. Had you gone the easy route and pointed out that the content of his communications (both with players and CCP) are sometimes deplorable and represent a not-great direction for the CSM from a player's perspective, you might have had your "broken clock" moment, but alas.
You're 0 for 2 on your criticisms, and you somehow didn't even mention progod, which should have been the "gimme" of any list what with no blog or twitter or campaign for that matter (the horror!). This means that your endorsement of Mike Azariah is based solely on his highsec residence, a concept which he roundly rejected via his only post in this thread.
tl;dr your ideas are terrible, your arguments are trash, and your mere presence in Jita Park is a pestilence on the CSM process. Go away. The usual blah blah blah, you will say anything to justify having Mynnna as Chairman, even though chairman no longer means leader of the CSM. Yes Mynnna is brilliant when it comes to the market but beyond that he is lost.
As to Trebor if you actually paid attention to the CSM all year long, I would not have to explain the obvious, that Trebor failed to communicate, something The Mittani even commented on.
As to Mike he is not solely a high sec resident as I have shown multiple times through out this thread.
But your need to have the CSM Chairman as a Goon is apparently blocking your ability to read. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1289
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Posted - 2013.05.03 08:39:00 -
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Yeah, it's the usual "blah blah Frying Doom's _______________ has yet again prevented him from realizing that nobody has or will ever take him seriously". Not my fault you don't switch your schtick up.
By the way, that blank can be filled in with "massive ego" or "crippling autism". I'll leave that one up you, I guess. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Frying Doom
2459
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Posted - 2013.05.03 08:51:00 -
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Being taken seriously by a member of Goonswarm is hardly at the top of my list of cares
The matter still stands that Mynnna or Trebor are not suited to a communication position as this thread has shown but as I have said I am sure the need to have the chairmans title to bloat egos will once again be put before the good of the CSM. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep Nyratic
164
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Posted - 2013.05.03 08:56:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Being taken seriously by a member of Goonswarm is hardly at the top of my list of cares
The matter still stands that Mynnna or Trebor are not suited to a communication position as this thread has shown but as I have said I am sure the need to have the chairmans title to bloat egos will once again be put before the good of the CSM.
Please point out HOW this thread has shown that they are bad communicators. They have taken the time to respond to you despite the fact neither of them needs to. That is communication. What did they say that was so bad for you? Bienator II: "You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1290
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Posted - 2013.05.03 08:59:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Being taken seriously by a member of Goonswarm is hardly at the top of my list of cares
Nobody takes you seriously. That one's not a Goonswarm exclusive.
Frying Doom wrote:The matter still stands that Mynnna or Trebor are not suited to a communication position as this thread has shown but as i have said I am sure the need to have the chairmans title to bloat egos will once again be put before the good of the CSM.
The only ego being bloated in all of this is yours - your head is so inflated you somehow think you're influential in the face of several CSM's past and present openly mocking you, and even the ones that don't have shut down your trains of thought pretty quickly. Even Mike Azariah, the candidate you're backing, opently told you that the CSM is "beyond" your stupid notion that a highsec candidate would be better simply because they're a highsec candidate - I guess you know better than he does, right?
And yet, here you are, not only still ignoring all of the above but actually going a step further and acting as if your terrible ill-founded opinions are fact. Are you off your meds or something? "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.05.03 09:09:00 -
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Personal attacks are always welcome.
I means you have no counter to the fact that the CSM Chairman's position is now about communication and not about leadership. It seems it is beyond your ability to grasp. So adapt or Die.
As I have said before The CSM needs to chose what is right for the game not just some null sec egos.
Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1290
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Posted - 2013.05.03 09:17:00 -
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"The CSM needs to choose the chair that I would want or else they're just indulging egos ps no nullsec"
So that's runaway ego to start and finished up with a nice dose of idiotic tribalism that nobody but you buys into at all.
Got anything else or are you going to say "Fact is" and then say the same thing structured slightly differently again? "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Frying Doom
2459
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Posted - 2013.05.03 09:47:00 -
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So now we wait.
Will CSM8 do what is good for the CSM or just feed someones ego.
With 10 Null sec egos on the CSM, I am betting the CSM will lose out. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
194
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Posted - 2013.05.03 10:03:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:"The CSM needs to choose the chair that I would want or else they're just indulging egos ps no nullsec"
So that's runaway ego to start and finished up with a nice dose of idiotic tribalism that nobody but you buys into at all.
Got anything else or are you going to say "Fact is" and then say the same thing structured slightly differently again? Holy something of someplace, Snow Axe, how do you continue this? I'd been infected with the dumb long ago.
Anyway, I looked through Frying Dooms posts and carefully picked some letters. I then re-arranged them like this:
Frying Doom wrote:Halp, I'm locked in my basement, my own fictional null-spiracy has caught me, and I can't intimidate it with a goon-spiracy! HALP! So now we have all the facts on the table. What do you think his response will be?
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1028
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Posted - 2013.05.03 13:56:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Yes Mynnna is brilliant when it comes to the market but beyond that he is lost.
You know, since this isn't directly related to the idea of "me being chair" alone, I'm not breaking my previous promise to say nothing else about chair.
So, I'd like to point out that every single word you wrote after "market" in that sentence is so disgustingly wrong that it's the wrongest thing you have ever posted in your history of being wrong. It's so very wrong that it's only through some inexplicable miracle that the very words contained in that half of the sentence have not, by merely being arranged in that particular combination and order, have not become so tainted with the wrongness of the statement as a whole that they become wrong in other contexts as well, causing a cascade of wrongness to erupt across the face of the internet and eventually making everything everyone has ever said and will ever say wrong by association.
I suppose given my posting history on eve-o that being "the market guy" is what I am best known for, if someone were to ignore everything else and around half my posts, but if we're to be judged by our a selective reading of our posting history alone, well... if I take a step back and allow myself a moment of honest, unbiased reflection, I know there's more to you than your posting history suggests. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
808
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Posted - 2013.05.03 14:07:00 -
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I think a sign of a good communicator would be someone who doesn't indulge the lunatic fringe. |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
658
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Posted - 2013.05.03 14:29:00 -
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president obama is a bad communicator because when i wrote a letter to him calling him an infernal kenyan usurper he did not take the time out of his schedule to personally respond |
Mike Azariah
Gallente Benevolence Association
294
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:44:00 -
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Just to keep you up to date,
At the prompting of CCP we are in the midst of a very polite discussion as to who will be saddled with which extra tag and workload.
Names are being bandied about and it is all pretty lowkey. Once we know, we'll let you know but it IS an internal thing and you've had your votes. Now is when we start to show whether you made the right choices or not.
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Mike Azariah-á CSM8 |
GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
302
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:09:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Just to keep you up to date,
At the prompting of CCP we are in the midst of a very polite discussion as to who will be saddled with which extra tag and workload.
Names are being bandied about and it is all pretty lowkey. Once we know, we'll let you know but it IS an internal thing and you've had your votes. Now is when we start to show whether you made the right choices or not.
m
but but but but you can't make such decisions without Frying Doom, Master of CSM and CCP and ahahahahahaha oh god I can't keep this up |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
815
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:11:00 -
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Agreed, you're probably going to want to run your decision and reasoning by frying Doom at least once because he posts a lot on this ass-end of a forum that nobody reads. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1293
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:40:00 -
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The best part is that even if they fully integrated him into the process for a lark, he'd still lose his **** if they picked anyone other than his choice. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
1195
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:51:00 -
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heh the irony of Frying hemming and hawing about listing people he thinks are poor communicators within yet another thread where he demands for a listing of what CSM's supported the CCP decision to move to STV because he's too lazy to get off his soap box to research or directly talk to anyone like a human.
Frying Doom has a duality within him, on the one hand he has to be the person in the conversation who disagrees. But he also *needs* to be right; in fact it is not compatible with his understanding of the world that he could be wrong. That is why he was the only voice in the crowd angrily defending an avowed racist. That's why no matter how much information comes out suggesting a different conclusion on a given topic than the one he has drawn, he will either ignore that information, move on to another argument, or if unable to do so cite said conflicting information as supporting his original opinion.
To Frying Doom, agreement is weakness. Silence is weakness. Being wrong is weakness. And he can never let anyone else know that about himself.
He's that guy. We've all come to know it over this past year. Don't try to convince him he isn't the star of the show, because he can't even see it's a sideshow at best. "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Frying Doom
2460
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:39:00 -
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mynnna wrote:You know, since this isn't directly related to the idea of "me being chair" alone, I'm not breaking my previous promise to say nothing else about chair.
So, I'd like to point out that every single word you wrote after "market" in that sentence is so disgustingly wrong that it's the wrongest thing you have ever posted in your history of being wrong. It's so very wrong that it's only through some inexplicable miracle that the very words contained in that half of the sentence have not, by merely being arranged in that particular combination and order, become so tainted with the wrongness of the statement as a whole that they become wrong in other contexts as well, causing a cascade of wrongness to erupt across the face of the internet and eventually making everything everyone has ever said and will ever say wrong by association.
I suppose given my posting history on eve-o that being "the market guy" is what I am best known for, if someone were to ignore everything else and around half my posts, but if we're to be judged by our a selective reading of our posting history alone, well... if I take a step back and allow myself a moment of honest, unbiased reflection, I know there's more to you than your posting history suggests. Yes lets look at some of your non market posts.
Mynnna wrote:For the record, pay no attention to the fact that he's posting on an obvious alt: this man knows what he's talking about, because he's been there and done that regarding both defensive and offensive sovereignty operations for years.
mynnna wrote:The original burn jita was actually planned and prepared for well in advance of the whole fanfest fiasco with Mittani, but that doesn't make the revisionist history from pubbies any less hilarious.
mynnna wrote:Also has the same problem as giving gifts. 50,000 uninformed and thus basically randomized votes has the same effect as those 50,000 not voting, statistically speaking. Might as well not have them vote. The idea that compulsory voting is just making random votes, so you seem to believe countries like Australia, with compulsory elections have just got random votes, you should also not this is the country they got the STV system from that they used.
Mynnna wrote:If nerfing jump drive range actually helps smaller groups, wouldn't buffing it harm them instead?
See, we can both play dumb logic tricks with each other's argument.
Or this lovely bit of logic " if I take a step back and allow myself a moment of honest, unbiased reflection, I know there's more to you than your posting history suggests." your unbiased reflection seems to end up reflecting on my posting.
Yes some wonderful examples of communication there but you will go on and on about how I am wrong. Just so you can validate your attempt to use the Chairman's position to inflate your own ego. I love watching people justifying their actions, as I have said before there is what is good for the CSM and what is good for the egos of some Null players. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Frying Doom
2460
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:42:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:heh the irony of Frying hemming and hawing about listing people he thinks are poor communicators within yet another thread where he demands for a listing of what CSM's supported the CCP decision to move to STV because he's too lazy to get off his soap box to research or directly talk to anyone like a human.
Frying Doom has a duality within him, on the one hand he has to be the person in the conversation who disagrees. But he also *needs* to be right; in fact it is not compatible with his understanding of the world that he could be wrong. That is why he was the only voice in the crowd angrily defending an avowed racist. That's why no matter how much information comes out suggesting a different conclusion on a given topic than the one he has drawn, he will either ignore that information, move on to another argument, or if unable to do so cite said conflicting information as supporting his original opinion.
To Frying Doom, agreement is weakness. Silence is weakness. Being wrong is weakness. And he can never let anyone else know that about himself.
He's that guy. We've all come to know it over this past year. Don't try to convince him he isn't the star of the show, because he can't even see it's a sideshow at best. Yes you keep saying I should research who supported the STV, I have and only 3 people have actually said they supported it.
But expecting transparency out of CSM7, not that I can blame you, your actions did lead to 10 Null members being on CSM8 Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
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