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Pottsey
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Posted - 2005.10.03 06:57:00 -
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Did anyone play Eltie 3? Better known as Elite: First Encounters.
The small version came on 2, 720kb floppy disks. The large PC version was on CD. I have it installed now and its well over 500meg big. The ships are great unlike most games with a clear upgrade path where you jump from ship 1 to ship 2 as its better. Elite ships have no clear upgrade path and ship A is not better then ship B.
"Planets. There were actual solid planets you could land on that had real spaceports, buildings, structures and geography"
A few things that impressed me was the citys and landscape are its all in 3D in Elite 3 (Elite 2 the planet was flat but 3D buildings). If you flew next to a clock tower even in Elite 2 and landed you could watch the clock time move in realtime and match the correct ingame time. Other great ideas Eve should borrow are the rank system, planet missons like photograph the base, permits to fly into certain systems, the BB board for missons which also had news, hitchikers e.c.t. But there are some things in Elite that dont fit in Eve and I wouldnt want to see Eve turn into Elite just borrow some of the bits.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2005.10.03 09:09:00 -
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ôRegardless of how many instructions are sent per second, multiplying ship movement even by ten would create staggering lag problems with the current hardware. Perhaps in the future it will be a viable option and will be reintroduced.ö
Surly itÆs a viable option now as there are or should that be was two other online only spaceship games with manual control of the ships. Both games donÆt suffer from lag while moving.
In theory multiplying ship movement by ten would not create extra data to send. You get the client side to let you move in 3D then the only data you send is the position and speed of the ship. You donÆt need to send all the movements only the start and end position with the speed of the ship.
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Posted - 2005.10.03 09:55:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 03/10/2005 09:56:06
ôive personally been in contact with the company that is in the process of making elite 4 (which will be ralise sometime in late 2006)ö
I think you might have misunderstood what Frontier Developments said or there has been a change of plan that I missed. They have been telling eveyone else current technology is not up to the level to do what they want and full development will not start before 2005/2006. That means if they start in 2005 it might come out in 2007 or 2008 perhaps longer. They want to make it a first person/space ship game so you start in FPS without a spaceship which also means you can land/dock and get out your ship. The concept art looks great.
David Braben also wrote about Eve once. But if I remember correctly he was not to impressed.
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Posted - 2005.10.04 18:15:00 -
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"Neither of those games had the server load of Eve."
If anything one of the games had a worse server load as the servers are a lot less powerfull then Eve and the total players numbers on at once where not that far behind Eve. It was about 8,000 to 16,000 players at peak split over 4 servers with 4 worlds (I always forget if it was 2 or 4k per sever at peak).
Compared to Eve 1 giant server farm. Eve has far more processing power behind it then those 4 servers. Thinking about it there are 3 online only space games with free movement and none of them have lag problems from movement.
I donÆt think Eve should have free movement but I also donÆt believe lag is the reason it does not have free movement.
EveÆs movement is good how it is though I wish combat and movement was more like Nexus: The Jupiter Incident. I guess movement is not to far off Nexus.
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Posted - 2005.10.05 12:01:00 -
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ôThe biggest thing is the story line and EVe has got a good one.ö
Elite 3 has a great storyline far better and more detailed then Eve at least it was for me. You even got a book in the game box with just the storyline in it. Then there are the storyline missions which make EveÆs storyline missons look basic. The FMV videos on the BB boards are great to. Elite had tons of small FMV videos like when taking a mission you had a video of a military agent giving you the mission. You had them for everything from Hitchhikers to the police. Each empire had a different feel to it and the atmosphere was great.
The newspaper idea was great to in Elite. The storyline worked very well in Elite 3 and fit into the game perfectly. Player actions drastically changed the storyline and you could only get certain ships by going down path A or path B. Eve could do with borrowing Elite newspaper idea.
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Posted - 2005.10.05 19:53:00 -
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ôOK... give me a Panther Clipper, I'll fit a large plasma accelerator and everytime I point it in your direction you die.ö
ThatÆs assuming you target is still there after you managed to turn, aim and fire. The Panther Clipper was about as a slow as a Freighter to turn and its acceleration and de acceleration is far worse. I believe from a storyline point of few the large plasma accelerator could flatten a city. Its just you never hit anything that moves.
There are two ships that pretty much killed anything they where pointed at the first you got by docking at the Thargoid station and earning a Thargoid warship armed with Thargoid weapons now thatÆs a ship to worry about. Far worse then a Panther Clipper with a large plasma accelerator.
The other deadly ship was the Argent's Quest a pain to get but it was deadly and fast with a massive jump drive range.
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