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Benedict Iscariot
Dead Horizons Dark Tide Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:31:00 -
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Class 1-4...which type is raided, camped, and/or evicted the most?
Anyone have some statistics on this? |
Aducat Ragnarson
Cult of the Black Goat Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.05.04 20:11:00 -
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Usually the ones that have dickheads in them.
But seriously, the chance of getting evicted from a c1-c4 is pretty ******* low if you set up a well defended large pos. You would REALLY need to **** someone off big time for him to consider evicting a c1-c4. Of course if you settle for a medium/small tower or a large with bad defense, the chances will go up. |
Oxandrolone
Bite Me inc Bitten.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 20:24:00 -
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Aducat Ragnarson wrote:Usually the ones that have dickheads in them.
But seriously, the chance of getting evicted from a c1-c4 is pretty ******* low if you set up a well defended large pos. You would REALLY need to **** someone off big time for him to consider evicting a c1-c4. Of course if you settle for a medium/small tower or a large with bad defense, the chances will go up.
I have not done wormhole merc stuff for a long time (the only time i would consider evicting from a c1-c4) but we were only usually hired when somewon was pissed off at somewon else.
In the c5/c6's people are often evicted if they live in a desired system so if you apply that to low class holes....
c2 with static HS/c2 pulsar is much more likely to get evicted that c3 static NS black hole
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Phaderift
Sky Fighters Talocan United
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:18:00 -
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the c2 with hs/c4 are usualy rather sought after |
Godfrey Silvarna
Frozen Dawn Inc Arctic Light
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:37:00 -
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I would say that c2's with highsec statics get the most attention and c4's are very unlikely to get invasions ever. |
Benedict Iscariot
Dead Horizons Dark Tide Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:44:00 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:I would say that c2's with highsec statics get the most attention and c4's are very unlikely to get invasions ever.
Why would you say C4's are unlikely to get an invasion?
Also, I can understand the value of keeping to one's self in wormholes when not PvPing.
I am with a small group and we have WH living experience in a C1. Wondering if I should go with a C3 with HS or LS static. Or a C4 with a C3 static. |
Godfrey Silvarna
Frozen Dawn Inc Arctic Light
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Posted - 2013.05.04 22:03:00 -
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C4's have two major logistical disadvantages and defense advantages:
#1 They never get direct k-space access, so bringing in invasion fleets and reinforcements and such takes more effort than for c1-c3 holes.
#2 You can not bring in dreadnoughts from adjacent C5's and C6's.
As a result, no one wants to go there. |
Bane Nucleus
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
422
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:25:00 -
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Two Step posted some numbers a while back. It showed more towers get removed from c2 wormholes than any other class, including c5 and c6 holes. Granted, tower removal doesn't equal eviction (dead sticks) but it's pretty interesting none the less. Free Agent |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1339
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:28:00 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:C4's have two major logistical disadvantages and defense advantages:
#1 They never get direct k-space access, so bringing in invasion fleets and reinforcements and such takes more effort than for c1-c3 holes.
#2 You can not bring in dreadnoughts from adjacent C5's and C6's.
As a result, no one wants to go there.
Add to the mix that almost all C4 wormholes are only 16 hours instead of 24. |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1791
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Posted - 2013.05.05 04:43:00 -
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C2s, by far. Theyre the only WHs in that range worth fighting over. |
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Josilin du Guesclin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.05 04:55:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Godfrey Silvarna wrote:C4's have two major logistical disadvantages and defense advantages:
#1 They never get direct k-space access, so bringing in invasion fleets and reinforcements and such takes more effort than for c1-c3 holes.
#2 You can not bring in dreadnoughts from adjacent C5's and C6's.
As a result, no one wants to go there. Add to the mix that almost all C4 wormholes are only 16 hours instead of 24. Also the sites are nearly as tough as C5s, but with much less loot, and no option of capital escalations. C4s are junk.
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Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.05 06:21:00 -
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Josilin du Guesclin wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:Godfrey Silvarna wrote:C4's have two major logistical disadvantages and defense advantages:
#1 They never get direct k-space access, so bringing in invasion fleets and reinforcements and such takes more effort than for c1-c3 holes.
#2 You can not bring in dreadnoughts from adjacent C5's and C6's.
As a result, no one wants to go there. Add to the mix that almost all C4 wormholes are only 16 hours instead of 24. Also the sites are nearly as tough as C5s, but with much less loot, and no option of capital escalations. C4s are junk.
Maybe at pre-escalation levels. Just went back and did some C4s today for a training op and it's nowhere near as hair-raising or ISK heavy as C5s. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 07:08:00 -
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If you call someones mother names the chances of someone trying to evict you are significantly higher. Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour.
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Gary Bell
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 11:35:00 -
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True Story^^ They will bring all the things.. Oh and watch what you name your towers.. Cuz god forbid you insult someone..
Spaceship game.. OR Whiners and Tear Spewing Carebears Online.. YOU DECIDE!@ |
Bane Nucleus
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
422
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Posted - 2013.05.05 13:04:00 -
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Running the badmouth on someone or their corp will definitely inspire them to burn your system to the ground.
As far as trash talking in general, it's one of those things where you can do it all you want, provided you don't whine when they come to pay you a visit. Nothing is worse than people that talk a ton of crap and then turn around and cry about how their system is getting smashed. Free Agent |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:34:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:Nothing is worse than people that talk a ton of crap and then turn around and cry about how their system is getting smashed.
Man, this happens to us every time we burn somebody down. http://www.TalocanUnited.com |
Qumar Nuom
Reconfiguration Nation Existential Anxiety
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Posted - 2013.05.06 11:23:00 -
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Josilin du Guesclin wrote:
Also the sites are nearly as tough as C5s, but with much less loot, and no option of capital escalations. C4s are junk.
That Sir is a purely fictional assumption, maybe you should start to think out of the (Tengu*?) box?
*although you could dualbox C4 anoms with Tengus as well, which is not possible with any C5 anom... |
Archdaimon
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2013.05.06 11:39:00 -
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C4's are nowhere near as difficult as c5's. Not by a margin.
C4's with static c2/c3's is a relatively safe place with good exits to hi and options for solo/group play.
If you (against all advice) insist on starting living in WH's in a new corp by yourself, I'd say c4's is the place to start. Don't be too risk adverse though. Make sure you shoot some spaceships every now and then.. Wormholes has the best accoustics. It's known. - Sing it for me - |
Mcpate
Anomalous Existence Disavowed.
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:22:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:Running the badmouth on someone or their corp will definitely inspire them to burn your system to the ground. As far as trash talking in general, it's one of those things where you can do it all you want, provided you don't whine when they come to pay you a visit. Nothing is worse than people that talk a ton of crap and then turn around and cry about how their system is getting smashed.
Nail on the head Bane |
Josilin du Guesclin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:13:00 -
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Qumar Nuom wrote:Josilin du Guesclin wrote:
Also the sites are nearly as tough as C5s, but with much less loot, and no option of capital escalations. C4s are junk.
That Sir is a purely fictional assumption, maybe you should start to think out of the (Tengu*?) box? *although you could dualbox C4 anoms with Tengus as well, which is not possible with any C5 anom... We don't use RR Tengus. We use T3s, Command Ships, and Caldari or Amarr logis (shield or armour depending on WH type). It's just worth the time doing C4s compared to C5s with a pair of logis plus DPS.
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Bane Nucleus
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2013.05.06 13:50:00 -
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You guys are doing C4s wrong. All you need is one Basi, one Rattlesnake, and a few Gilas. You will run through a C4 anom in about 3-4minutes. Free Agent |
Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
184
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Posted - 2013.05.06 15:16:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:You guys are doing C4s wrong. All you need is one Basi, one Rattlesnake, and a few Gilas. You will run through a C4 anom in about 3-4minutes. Bane troll best troll.
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Bane Nucleus
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
426
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:58:00 -
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No trolling there. It works wonders. Plus the range with bouncers is awesome. They never even make it to you. Free Agent |
Maggeridon Thoraz
Reconfiguration Nation Existential Anxiety
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Posted - 2013.05.07 00:08:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:You guys are doing C4s wrong. All you need is one Basi, one Rattlesnake, and a few Gilas. You will run through a C4 anom in about 3-4minutes.
bane you should not reveal secrets |
Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno Malefic Motives
179
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Posted - 2013.05.07 03:05:00 -
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As mentioned, C2s are the most useful so they present the highest chance to be evicted even if you don't **** anyone off as they probably just want your system.
Yeah the logistics of evicting a C4 is hell and the systems themselves aren't worth much so you won't really get evicted unless someone is hell bent on burning you down, but C4s aren't horrible to live in as people say, a C4 with a C2 static is awesome for pvp as C2s have high traffic and you can open an entrance into their hole without them knowing unless they have someone scanning new entrances constantly and there's alot of good prey in C2s, you can also run the sites of empty C2s when there's nothing else to do, also easy k-space access. C4-C3 is awesome to farm your static sites as you can roll for empty systems with loads of sites although it will be far more quiet than a C4-C2 and k-space access is harder. However C4 anoms themselves aren't really worth the effort they require, but who farms their own system? It'll about the static. |
Tashima
Reconfiguration Nation Existential Anxiety
2
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:55:00 -
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Meytal wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:You guys are doing C4s wrong. All you need is one Basi, one Rattlesnake, and a few Gilas. You will run through a C4 anom in about 3-4minutes. Bane troll best troll. Funny that when someone hints that you can do C4s efficiently, and not using Tengus, it's a troll :)
Two Rattlers do a non-bonused Frontier Barraks in 9 min. In a magnetar you need 5 min. With a Rattler/Basi you "solo" any site in a C4 in under 20 min. |
qt pa2t
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.07 08:02:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Godfrey Silvarna wrote:C4's have two major logistical disadvantages and defense advantages:
#1 They never get direct k-space access, so bringing in invasion fleets and reinforcements and such takes more effort than for c1-c3 holes.
#2 You can not bring in dreadnoughts from adjacent C5's and C6's.
As a result, no one wants to go there. Add to the mix that almost all C4 wormholes are only 16 hours instead of 24.
Uuh, what? There are only two 24 hour inbounds to C1-4, and they're both wandering. |
QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc.
135
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Posted - 2013.05.07 23:57:00 -
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Whatever hole insidious design happens to live in. |
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