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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
810
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Posted - 2013.05.06 15:31:00 -
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3D printed handguns ... they work! (video)
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Commissar Kate
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4305
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Posted - 2013.05.06 15:33:00 -
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Impressive, but I'd be scared to shoot a gun made out of plastic. Set Lasers for Fun!!! |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4574
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Posted - 2013.05.06 15:38:00 -
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I'll be more interested when they find out how to print bullets. Till then they don't change much in the countries with outlawed guns.
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Alara IonStorm
4978
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Posted - 2013.05.06 15:41:00 -
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The future is this except out of someones garage in Tennessee. |

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1693
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Posted - 2013.05.06 15:45:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:I'll be more interested when they find out how to print bullets. Till then they don't change much in the countries with outlawed guns.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11148
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:16:00 -
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Yes, exact dimensions and what they're made out of couldn't possibly be found anywhere 
I mean there is no place you could look this info up along with exact directions on how they're assembled , also it's not like people in huts in Afghanistan make their own AKs or anything just by carving wood and blacksmithing "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

Alara IonStorm
4979
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:25:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I mean there is no place you could look this info up along with exact directions on how they're assembled  , also it's not like people in huts in Afghanistan make their own AKs or anything just by carving wood and blacksmithing As advanced a weapon people think the Assault Rifle is compared to all the other stuff humanity has been using for the past 10 millennia it is kind of disconcerting that the most popular model could be made in the same smiths that produced those first swords. Probably why it's so popular.  |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11156
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:38:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I mean there is no place you could look this info up along with exact directions on how they're assembled  , also it's not like people in huts in Afghanistan make their own AKs or anything just by carving wood and blacksmithing As advanced a weapon people think the Assault Rifle is compared to all the other stuff humanity has been using for the past 10 millennia it is kind of disconcerting that the most popular model could be made in the same smiths that produced those first swords. Probably why it's so popular. 
Also it's very very cheap  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1609
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:52:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:I'll be more interested when they find out how to print bullets. Till then they don't change much in the countries with outlawed guns. Casting or swaging bullets is dead simple. Casting requires a mold (which can literally be made of sand, if you care to do a little post-molding cleanup, or can be machined (by hand!) out of brass), and some lead which can be melted in a tin can over a small campfire or BBQ grill. Lead can be optained from wheel-balancing weights or hobby shops (used in ballasting RC boats and such).
There are any number of potential propellants, including black powder and white (or 'red') powder. All easily assembled in any shed or even on the dining room table.
*Primers* are the difficulty, but even that can be overcome at home. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4664
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Posted - 2013.05.06 17:57:00 -
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Coming at this from a disadvantage, we don't have guns here any more, as awesome as they are.
Some muppet went around shooting a school and they were all taken away... least it stopped that from happening again I suppose.
Still hoping to get to use them next year in the UOTC 
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Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
16692
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Posted - 2013.05.06 18:12:00 -
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Hmm, must be a wise choice to invest in internet in the central American states.
"Hey Billy, can ya download a new gun for ol daddy here. I'm tired of the old rifle"
I fail at writing in redneckish. We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |

Khergit Deserters
1011
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:04:00 -
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Zombie invasion prep hint #4: Don't forget that old car batteries are a great source for pounds and pounds of lead. |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4719
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:09:00 -
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Been reading the news over here, the BBC are having kittens over it, portraying the developers as borderline psychopaths ect.
Because in BBCland, who else would want to own a gun?
Top comment on the BBC article,
alterain wrote: Likely to happen anyway unfortunately, but a shame he did not spend his efforts designing water pump parts for the poorer regions of the world instead of weapons to kill people.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1613
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:18:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:Hmm, must be a wise choice to invest in internet in the central American states.
"Hey Billy, can ya download a new gun for ol daddy here. I'm tired of the old rifle"
I fail at writing in redneckish. Also at understanding redneck. In redneck land (which can be anywhere, really), old rifles are objects of veneration. Beware the old man with a battered 19th century 28-guage shotgun with a nail holding the stock together when he shows up for the sporting clays match. You aren't winning anything that day - and neither is anyone else. He's going to take that battered old piece and sweep all categories he enters.
Where the downloadable gun becomes a player is in inner cities, where it's easy to find excuses to disarm the public AND the necessary social, political, and law-enforcement structure exists to try to carry disarmament out.
Disarmament is a civil rights issue - minorities are the easiest to disarm, because they're the most divorced from the structures of power. Ethnic groups with better access to the structures of power have the ability to contest removal of their power without resorting to revolution. Ethnic groups which do NOT have access to power are going to find the ability to covertly acquire power very attractive. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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baltec1
Bat Country
6213
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:19:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Zombie invasion prep hint #4: Don't forget that old car batteries are a great source for pounds and pounds of lead.
Just remember not to stick your fingers in it |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1613
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:21:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Top comment on the BBC article, alterain wrote: Likely to happen anyway unfortunately, but a shame he did not spend his efforts designing water pump parts for the poorer regions of the world instead of weapons to kill people.
Because clearly NO ONE has designed pump parts for poor countries - And everywhere you go in poor countries you can find 3-D printers and materials robust enough to withstand the kinds of wear and tear pumps undergo.

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stoicfaux
2668
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:28:00 -
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Commissar Kate wrote:Impressive, but I'd be scared to shoot a gun made out of plastic. If you're scared of Nerf guns, then maybe you should be playing Hello Kitty Online instead?
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1700
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:32:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Commissar Kate wrote:Impressive, but I'd be scared to shoot a gun made out of plastic. If you're scared of Nerf guns, then maybe you should be playing Hello Kitty Online instead?
Or a disc gun loaded with dimes 
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stoicfaux
2668
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:42:00 -
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I think the big take-away is that we're one step closer to death by gray goo.
Also, you may want to sell any interests you own in miniatures, dolls, action figures, and/or plastic toys in general. And I think we're going to see legislature that really cracks down on the sales of 3D printers along with severe new IP laws (to prevent people from making their own unlicensed parts, toys, etc..) when bans on 3D printers become too difficult to enforce.
Finally, what's scarier: people printing their own guns, or people printing their own car parts (of indeterminate quality) on the cheap...?
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1613
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:43:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Commissar Kate wrote:Impressive, but I'd be scared to shoot a gun made out of plastic. If you're scared of Nerf guns, then maybe you should be playing Hello Kitty Online instead? Or a disc gun loaded with dimes  Those were some brutal wars back in the day. Broken skin and dimes in the drywall as far as the eye could see. Crossman 760. Theoretically, a five-pump limit. Which limit was violated regularly and willfully. Learned how to extract metalic objects from our own bodies, so parents wouldn't learn what we were doing.
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1703
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:45:00 -
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Jay Leno does the car part thing now. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1614
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:56:00 -
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Of course, there's no real reason the scanner couldn't output straight to the CNC machine. All it needs is the right interface software.
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Khergit Deserters
1012
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:11:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:I think the big take-away is that we're one step closer to death by gray goo. Also, you may want to sell any interests you own in miniatures, dolls, action figures, and/or plastic toys in general. And I think we're going to see legislature that really cracks down on the sales of 3D printers along with severe new IP laws (to prevent people from making their own unlicensed parts, toys, etc..) when bans on 3D printers become too difficult to enforce. Finally, what's scarier: people printing their own guns, or people printing their own car parts (of indeterminate quality) on the cheap...? Jewelers are already scared. They can be made obsolete by 3D printers. Fine metalworking and hand-sculpting wax models to make molds for casting-- easily replaced by a guy with a 3D design app and a 3D printer. That's one of those old apprentice to journeyman to master craftsman occupations. Kind of sad to see it go. |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4731
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:16:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote: Jewelers are already scared. They can be made obsolete by 3D printers. Fine metalworking and hand-sculpting wax models to make molds for casting-- easily replaced by a guy with a 3D design app and a 3D printer. That's one of those old apprentice to journeyman to master craftsman occupations. Kind of sad to see it go.
Game's workshops also bricking it. But the real potential for economic pain is Ford, GM, Volkswagen and Toyota. A Garage could have a 3d Printer in the back and print out replacement parts for a private inventory. A hobbyist or a competent Mechanic could print an entire car and not need to pay anything but the material costs. I bet when metal based ones of sufficient quanity start coming near commercialised there will be open source car designs.
I was born too late for the Internet, I was born on time for this, booya.
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1703
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:25:00 -
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I don't think there will ever truly be a one tool fits all application for metal based production. For a car alone I can think of probably a dozen different machines that need to be used.
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Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4731
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:31:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:I don't think there will ever truly be a one tool fits all application for metal based production. For a car alone I can think of probably a dozen different machines that need to be used.
Aye, its still a complicated task but it makes it more accessible to more people. Cassette tapes in the post could pirate things, but bit torrent just lowered the bar to entry is what I mean. As I understand the car sales model, Corporations break even with the vehicles themselves and make their profits from selling replacement components. Should the means of production be in the public's hands, why would you overpay for replacements? It could contract the market size in economic, but expand it in absolute terms. Bit like the music industry.
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Alara IonStorm
4982
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:32:00 -
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Kirjava wrote: Game's workshops also bricking it. But the real potential for economic pain is Ford, GM, Volkswagen and Toyota. A Garage could have a 3d Printer in the back and print out replacement parts for a private inventory. A hobbyist or a competent Mechanic could print an entire car and not need to pay anything but the material costs. I bet when metal based ones of sufficient quanity start coming near commercialised there will be open source car designs.
Gene Roddenberry would be so proud. |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4732
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:39:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Kirjava wrote: Game's workshops also bricking it. But the real potential for economic pain is Ford, GM, Volkswagen and Toyota. A Garage could have a 3d Printer in the back and print out replacement parts for a private inventory. A hobbyist or a competent Mechanic could print an entire car and not need to pay anything but the material costs. I bet when metal based ones of sufficient quanity start coming near commercialised there will be open source car designs.
Gene Roddenberry would be so proud. Aye, so would Lenin now I think about it.
I always knew Communism and Capitalism would eventually become indistinguishable. Already have socialised healthcare, education and water, bring on the rest. 
We haven't cracked food yet, I know a few people working on hydroponics projects though so theoretically it could happen....
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stoicfaux
2669
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:40:00 -
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On the plus side, we may not need long range personal conveyances (err cars) in Teh Future(tm). If your local co-op printing/milling center can produce any material item you may need, then there's less need to have finished goods being sold locally or for you to travel to such a store. Imagine if your local Wal-mart, Lowe's/Home Depot, Target, etc., didn't need to stock 90% of its finished goods because people could just make those goods locally.
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Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4732
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:43:00 -
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Well we work better in office scenarios from what I understand, so there will still be that. Telepresence has only gotten us so far, and Skype is an adhoc arrangement but personal contact is preferable if available.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11210
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:48:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Well we work better in office scenarios from what I understand, so there will still be that. Telepresence has only gotten us so far, and Skype is an adhoc arrangement but personal contact is preferable if available.
Match grade spitballs  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1614
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:05:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:stoicfaux wrote:I think the big take-away is that we're one step closer to death by gray goo. Also, you may want to sell any interests you own in miniatures, dolls, action figures, and/or plastic toys in general. And I think we're going to see legislature that really cracks down on the sales of 3D printers along with severe new IP laws (to prevent people from making their own unlicensed parts, toys, etc..) when bans on 3D printers become too difficult to enforce. Finally, what's scarier: people printing their own guns, or people printing their own car parts (of indeterminate quality) on the cheap...? Jewelers are already scared. They can be made obsolete by 3D printers. Fine metalworking and hand-sculpting wax models to make molds for casting-- easily replaced by a guy with a 3D design app and a 3D printer. That's one of those old apprentice to journeyman to master craftsman occupations. Kind of sad to see it go. The better craftsmen should be racing to embrace it. The technology will make possible designs previously impossible, or nearly impossible. Vision and creativity will finally be matched with technology that can can bring the most fantastic designs to fruition.
I think it was Buddy Holly who said he had sounds inside his head that the world had never heard. Similarly, the truly excellent craftsmen certainly have visions of jewelry in their head that defied the mechanics of existing technology.
Nor need the current skills vanish. Nailguns have not made obsolete the hammer, nor have air wrenches made obsolete the crescent wrench. Screwguns have not made obsolete the screwdriver, nor has the foundry made extinct the blackmsith. What *will* happen is that cheap, low-imagination jewelry will become comoditized out of existence (mostly), and the field of custom / bespoke jewelry ought to see a renaissance. There will be some winnowing of course, but most of us simply don't have the trained imagination to match the designs of a really excellent jeweler. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1614
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:12:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:I bet when metal based ones of sufficient quanity start coming near commercialised there will be open source car designs.
Metal-based ones already exist. They're called CNC Mills. Yes, there are models small enough for the well-heeled hobbyiest. All it takes is an interface to your scanner (already developed!) and you can turn out metalic, plastic, or wood objects directly.
However, the milling or printing process is NOT mass-production friendly. You're not going to see parts supply houses going out of business over printers. You may see some low-turnover product lines being dropped, perhaps. The big auto groups don't make their own spare parts anyway - they job those out to supply-chain firms. Saw the impact here locally when Dodge pulled out of Newark (DE) - a score or so small-to-medium businesses which supplied spares and related services folded immediately after the plant shuttered.
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pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1179
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Posted - 2013.05.07 08:43:00 -
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so does anyone has the prints for a thermo nuclear device for me i pau you 100 mil isk for one
sometimes technology can be a pain in the ass what irritates me it is getting so much attention in the media I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

Commissar Akiga
Aerodyne Collective. WHY so Seri0Us
10
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Posted - 2013.05.07 13:18:00 -
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I think it's pretty sad that there are millions without a meal tonight and we're focussing our efforts on manufacturing things to take lives instead of save them.
Out of sight, out of mind I guess... A man of genius makes no mistakes. His errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery. |

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1706
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Posted - 2013.05.07 13:28:00 -
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Don't worry, the 3d printer is one step closer to becoming a replicator. A painstakingly slow replicator. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4785
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Posted - 2013.05.07 13:52:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Don't worry, the 3d printer is one step closer to becoming a replicator. A painstakingly slow replicator. Just as long as I get just one.
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Khergit Deserters
1017
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:58:00 -
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Of course the ultimate application will be to make better, more detailed, less blobby D&D miniatures! Actually it's probably the Napoleonic miniatures that could use more help in this area. |

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1707
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:09:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Of course the ultimate application will be to make better, more detailed, less blobby D&D miniatures! Actually it's probably the Napoleonic miniatures that could use more help in this area.
This was a big discussion between me and friends lately. We were talking about picking up a $300 3d printer and a scanner. Then what we do is pick up one box set of the armies that we use for 40k or fantasy and we scan each sprue. Then with my programs I can physically reshape legs and arms and add or delete details, making each model that much more unique in the army. The savings would show easily within 10 tanks which is why I stopped playing so long ago. I mean its what now, like $30 for a unit and almost $60 for vehicles now? Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1620
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:02:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Of course the ultimate application will be to make better, more detailed, less blobby D&D miniatures! Actually it's probably the Napoleonic miniatures that could use more help in this area. A friend of mine is using his printer to print interlocking terrain hexes of various profiles and heights. He figures he doesn't really need to print miniatures, but no one has the excellent maps that he has. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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OfBalance
Caldari State
446
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:22:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:I always knew Communism and Capitalism would eventually become indistinguishable. Already have socialised healthcare, education and water, bring on the rest. 
In what way is that the merger of communism and capitalism? Socialized tax-funded healthcare, education, and utilities are anathema to voluntary exchange and have nothing to do with capitalism.
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Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4807
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:23:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:Kirjava wrote:I always knew Communism and Capitalism would eventually become indistinguishable. Already have socialised healthcare, education and water, bring on the rest.  In what way is that the merger of communism and capitalism? Socialized tax-funded healthcare, education, and utilities are anathema to voluntary exchange and have nothing to do with capitalism. Whats the difference between a Megacorporation and a Communist state?
And the above seems to be working out pretty sweet in Scotland, might be a cultural thing.
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pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1182
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:16:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Of course the ultimate application will be to make better, more detailed, less blobby D&D miniatures! Actually it's probably the Napoleonic miniatures that could use more help in this area. uumm never thought on that i even finally might finish my late imperial army of the 30 year war or my otto+¦an empire army you can't imagine how difficult it is to find good quality 20mm figures for that I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
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