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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
1002
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Posted - 2013.05.10 06:18:00 -
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Lets see how all resources would shoot up in price with 4 hour asteroid belt respawns so no one time zone gets an advantage & make them smaller in HI,NULL,LO& WH space.
All asteroid belts become anoms... let the newbies saving up thru mining be damned
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2846
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Posted - 2013.05.10 06:24:00 -
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I'm perfectly ok with this. CCP, do this thing.
The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Schmata Bastanold
Keep It Burning Stupid
768
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Posted - 2013.05.10 06:25:00 -
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I don't think sto0pid is timezone related.
I am not my skills but...
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
9232
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Posted - 2013.05.10 06:32:00 -
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Let's do this
1 Kings 12:11
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Cecil Montague
PCG Enterprises
THE ROYAL NAVY
4
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Posted - 2013.05.10 06:46:00 -
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Actually that's a pretty good idea. It would make our corp mining ops more varied and interesting, plus there is no skill barrier to entry which means we can send our newer players out in Ventures to scout good locations making them feel more included in the group effort.
Do it CCP.
"There is no such thing as an effective segment of Totality" - Bruce Lee: The only man with a Chuck Norris killmail. |
Slymah
33 RD
Li3 Federation
111
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Posted - 2013.05.10 06:52:00 -
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Brilliant |
baltec1
Bat Country
6279
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Posted - 2013.05.10 07:21:00 -
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I have no problem with this. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
23
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Posted - 2013.05.10 07:33:00 -
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I can feel my 'roids shrinking already. |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
81
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Posted - 2013.05.10 07:34:00 -
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Very nice idea, +1
I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
214
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Posted - 2013.05.10 07:34:00 -
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Seems reasonable enough.
NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4920
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Posted - 2013.05.10 07:38:00 -
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Make it so. |
Sentamon
897
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:00:00 -
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Yes pls. 
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
McVain089
Red-Giant Inc.
19
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:05:00 -
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Awesome, would like that  |
flakeys
Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology
Interstellar Confederation
1052
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:10:00 -
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Screaming is more a typicall american thing actually.We euro's usually discuss matters at hand without being an emo ***** like the yankies.
Just saying ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Whisperen
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
RISE of LEGION
30
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:10:00 -
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Sounds good. |
Col Arran
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
117
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:54:00 -
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I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with a Darth Nefarius thread but +1 my good sir. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
751
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Posted - 2013.05.10 08:54:00 -
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Make it happen. Now.
Fake-edit:
Why do you always shout when you say "ice" and "null," OP? Or were those words backronym'ed in my recent absence?
Meta-gaming for carebears:
Whine on the forums like a little ***** until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. |
GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
308
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Posted - 2013.05.10 09:01:00 -
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If 'roids did this my meteors would swell. |
Avalon Champion
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.05.10 09:02:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Screaming is more a typicall american thing actually.We euro's usually discuss matters at hand without being an emo ***** like the yankies.
Just saying ...
Unless you're Greek, Italian, French, or Spanish. 
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Riyal
Fluffles Inc.
83
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Posted - 2013.05.10 09:22:00 -
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It is a bit odd that roid belts are not being converted over with the ice belts. Maybe the ice belts are a test to see how it's received. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14160
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Posted - 2013.05.10 09:36:00 -
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Makes more sense anyway and should have happened years ago.
Do it.
Also, how does currency scream? And since when did EVE have intrusion countermeasure electronics? Is it part of the new hacking minigame, because that would be awesome!
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
370
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Posted - 2013.05.10 09:39:00 -
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I'm fine with this... but how do I belt rat?
Lieutenant Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District |
Djana Libra
The Black Ops
S2N Citizens
165
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Posted - 2013.05.10 09:51:00 -
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I dont understand why euro's would scream, it would be better for most, working on normal days till like 1600 eve.
And well there's been plenty of roids to crunch at any time a day if you stop being in a selective few systems. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2013.05.10 09:55:00 -
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Makes sense to me, fully supported. |
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
Hegemonous Pandorum
163
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Posted - 2013.05.10 10:02:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Let's do this
That tag makes me swoon malcanis.
Also, you speak words of wisdom Darth. They should make everything on a four hour respawn. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1694
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Posted - 2013.05.10 10:06:00 -
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It will only have an effect when asteroids in mission deadspaces get nerfed, too. Else I'd just move there to mine and spawn the belts I need myself.
Other than that, I'm all for it. It's basically part of my mining ideas, using the new spawn mechanics introduced with the wormholes to define in which area of space gravimetric sites can spawn and then have belts somewhat realistically distributed in a system. For example all belts in Tash-Murkon Prime are around that one gas giant, thus all gravimetric anomalies will spawn within a certain distance of it.
And then add in multi grid belts and multi ore asteroids and comets and solar flares and everything else to make mining more awesome instead of a borefest.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Danni stark
211
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Posted - 2013.05.10 10:06:00 -
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hilarious, do it.
but prices wouldn't change.
Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1390
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Posted - 2013.05.10 10:26:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Makes more sense anyway and should have happened years ago.
Do it.
Also, how does currency scream? And since when did EVE have intrusion countermeasure electronics? Is it part of the new hacking minigame, because that would be awesome!
Well, click on the wrong part of the minigame, and your virus takes damage from ICE, so...
Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :)
Handy tools and an SDE conversion
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Masuka Taredi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.05.10 10:28:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Lets see how all resources would shoot up in price with 4 hour asteroid belt respawns so no one time zone gets an advantage & make them smaller in HI,NULL,LO& WH space.
All asteroid belts become anoms... let the newbies saving up thru mining be damned
I WANT all static belts removed and turned into anomalies. It would let the game seed/change seed amounts throughout regions to control ore supply in hisec/balance markets easier. Plus act as a way to make lowsec seem more viable. Get more people interested in going to more lucrative pastures like lowsec or 0.0. and make people work together to take advantage of the more lucrative mining opportunities. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
2740
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Posted - 2013.05.10 10:32:00 -
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Belts should have a 2-3 month lifecycle. No downtime respawn bs, but instead they would include huge quantities of minerals, and would deplete completely when mined out. Then new roids would slowly start forming on belts, which would take a few months to grow into their former glory and beyond.
Unless they are mined out while still small.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
58
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Posted - 2013.05.10 10:47:00 -
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Make it so.
Can we have a replacement for belt rat chaining in this included?
Remove insurance. |
Lord Haur
Grim Determination
Nulli Secunda
72
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Posted - 2013.05.10 10:53:00 -
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Roime wrote:Belts should have a 2-3 month lifecycle. No downtime respawn bs, but instead they would include huge quantities of minerals, and would deplete completely when mined out. Then new roids would slowly start forming on belts, which would take a few months to grow into their former glory and beyond.
Unless they are mined out while still small.
Unless you mean that the rate of growth is exponential, that's basically what happens with belts atm, except the HS spawn rates are way up.
Veldspar roids in nullsec are absolutely massive. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2527
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Posted - 2013.05.10 10:55:00 -
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For great justice! |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1695
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Posted - 2013.05.10 10:57:00 -
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Turelus wrote:I'm fine with this... but how do I belt rat?
Anomalies. Those encounter sites yield more rats than the average belt, so with a somewhat increased spawn rate of anomalies, the loss of regular belts to rat in should be compensated. No more chaining though.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
472
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:47:00 -
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Do it!
Ferox #1 |
Rayzilla Zaraki
Tandokuno
1
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:25:00 -
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It makes sense in the game for the asteroid fields to go the way of the ice fields, but in the "real" universe, asteroid fields are pretty much static. So, in that way it doesn't make sense. I guess I never noticed that the Euro players deplete the fields as I have a job that has such a varying schedule that I can get all the ore I need when I want to support my other habits in the game. But, mining is just that for me, a support operation, not a way of life. |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
Joint Venture Conglomerate
605
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:30:00 -
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Randomly spawning asteroid sites would allow for a wider variety of asteroid fields, as anyone in WH's can tell you. This kind of diversity in anomaly-spawned asteroid belts would be very cool -- and would still allow asteroid fields to be a conflict driver.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
1777
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:42:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Screaming is more a typicall american thing actually.We euro's usually discuss matters at hand without being an emo ***** like the yankies.
Just saying ...
Is this before or after y'all stomp people to death at soccer...I mean "Football" games?
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4933
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:59:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Screaming is more a typicall american thing actually.We euro's usually discuss matters at hand without being an emo ***** like the yankies.
Just saying ...
"Look at how reasonable we are. I'll prove it to you by making unreasonably generalized statements about hundreds of millions of people." |
Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
440
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:14:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Screaming is more a typicall american thing actually.We euro's usually discuss matters at hand without being an emo ***** like the yankies.
Just saying ...
You are actually pretty snarky and rude that I have seen Flake. Is that how most "Euro's" do things?
-áImmersion = gameplayer self worth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsEPP3YQcxQ |
Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
442
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:15:00 -
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James' reply is better than mine. I hereby withdraw my statement.
-áImmersion = gameplayer self worth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsEPP3YQcxQ |
baltec1
Bat Country
6284
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:32:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:flakeys wrote:Screaming is more a typicall american thing actually.We euro's usually discuss matters at hand without being an emo ***** like the yankies.
Just saying ... You are actually pretty snarky and rude that I have seen Flake. Is that how most "Euro's" do things?
The French. Also people who go on the aprentice. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
1008
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:09:00 -
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Turelus wrote:I'm fine with this... but how do I belt rat?
You would have to wait for the next anom spawn just like the miners have to or go to a new system.
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
1008
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:13:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:hilarious, do it.
but prices wouldn't change.
You are kidding yourself i you think tha prices wouldn't change: just look at what is happening with ICE prices with the threat of ICE resource depletion in NULL/LO/HI SEC. Looks like many EUROs are not screaming about this idea yet like I thought they would ( epecially the bots) , maybe it should be implemented ASAP
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
1009
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:22:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:I don't think sto0pid is timezone related.
Blah, not from what I noticed in the Incursion channels. EURO drama lamas there are worst in the european prime time zone.
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2746
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:24:00 -
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Bollocks.
Not that I agree or disagree I just wanted to say bollocks. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14169
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:25:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Looks like many EUROs are not screaming about this idea yet like I thought they would ( epecially the bots) , maybe it should be implemented ASAP
Why would they scream about it?
And how?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Danni stark
212
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:02:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Danni stark wrote:hilarious, do it.
but prices wouldn't change. You are kidding yourself i you think tha prices wouldn't change: just look at what is happening with ICE prices with the threat of ICE resource depletion in NULL/LO/HI SEC. Looks like many EUROs are not screaming about this idea yet like I thought they would ( epecially the bots) , maybe it should be implemented ASAP
yeah but you've taken a resource that's near infinite and reduced it's avaliability by giving it 2500 blocks per 4hrs.
where as with ore you've turned 1 belt every 24 hours in to 1 belt every 4 hours, and not all of the belts are mined out so you haven't changed the supply.
comparing apples to oranges will never end well.
Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
340
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:33:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:It will only have an effect when asteroids in mission deadspaces get nerfed, too. Else I'd just move there to mine and spawn the belts I need myself.
I only mine in missions anyway, so I wouldn't even notice. But often there is more effort involved with mining in missions, so I'm not sure if they'd really need a nerf.
Remove insurance. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14171
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:50:00 -
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HmmGǪ has Fon Revendhort changed careers and started mining? That would at least create some kind of (very weak) connection between ore distribution and EURO.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Lord LazyGhost
Pissed Every Night Including Sundays
69
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:29:00 -
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YER AND THEN LETS HEAR ALL THE PVP GUYS CRY WHEN THEY CAN NO LONGER FLY BIG SHIPS BECASUE THEY COST A FORTUNE |
Ager Agemo
Kiith Paktu
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
297
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:43:00 -
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Lord LazyGhost wrote:YER AND THEN LETS HEAR ALL THE PVP GUYS CRY WHEN THEY CAN NO LONGER FLY BIG SHIPS BECASUE THEY COST A FORTUNE
awesome so a battleship would actually be a force to be reckoned with, instead of a throw away asset? |
flakeys
Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology
Interstellar Confederation
1063
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:57:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:James' reply is better than mine. I hereby withdraw my statement.
Actually both where below mediocre as one talks about me generalising in a thread that generalises and the other calls me rude because i don't let people step on my **** daily .
But even in the bad there is a distinct between bad and REALLY bad.So yes , your choice might be a wise one.
ow yeah uhm ....USA USA USA .... am i doing it right?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
632
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:03:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Let's do this
While I do not disagree, I do not think it should be done the way ice has, where a belt can be cleared in an hour, then take 4 hours to respawn. It would crush high sec industry that does not have access to insta-re-spawn upgrades. CCP would suffer a MASSIVE subscription drop.
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Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
1104
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Posted - 2013.05.10 19:13:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Malcanis wrote:Let's do this While I do not disagree, I do not think it should be done the way ice has, where a belt can be cleared in an hour, then take 4 hours to respawn. It would crush high sec industry that does not have access to insta-re-spawn upgrades. CCP would suffer a MASSIVE subscription drop.
Yes, due to all the bot miners unsubbing their 23+ accounts at once.
This would not be a bad thing.
The industrialists who stayed would find themselves enjoying a great deal of wealth as people with enough autism to actually enjoy mining in EVE reap the benefits of not having to compete against every Chinese Isk farmer running a Python script. |
Danni stark
214
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Posted - 2013.05.10 19:19:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Malcanis wrote:Let's do this While I do not disagree, I do not think it should be done the way ice has, where a belt can be cleared in an hour, then take 4 hours to respawn. It would crush high sec industry that does not have access to insta-re-spawn upgrades. CCP would suffer a MASSIVE subscription drop.
not really, there's often 1, maybe 2 ice belts in a system, so 4 hours downtime is a lot.
where as there are what, 20+ asteroid belts in some systems? and a 4hr respawn is shorter than a daily respawn at downtime (yeah, 4 hours is shorter than 24, who knew?)
so i fail to see how asteroids spawning 6 times faster would crush high sec industry... if anything it means you could mine closer to jita instead of the arse end of lontrek to find a belt that isn't mined out within an hour of downtime.
Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
Beer needs you
287
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Posted - 2013.05.10 19:20:00 -
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Are people trying to give Chribba a heart attack ....... his poor veldspar
You only-árealise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead. |
Danni stark
214
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Posted - 2013.05.10 19:20:00 -
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Xython wrote:people with enough autism to actually enjoy mining in EVE
meanie :(
Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
519
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Posted - 2013.05.10 19:28:00 -
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