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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:23:00 -
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DelightSucker wrote:RubyPorto wrote:DelightSucker wrote:this feature have been here forever, its called and ALT account
whats good about this??
its gonna cost the same as running another acc, that you can actually play on, have 2 cynos alts or 2 noob spys or whatever. Say I want a Cyno alt/indy alt, or other fixed-SP-limit character on my main account. This would let me train it up without stopping training my main and avoid the transfer fee. i guess that's a limited use of it yes,
If by "limited use" you mean "the primary reason people have been asking for this," yes. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
417
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:24:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:DelightSucker wrote:this feature have been here forever, its called and ALT account
whats good about this??
its gonna cost the same as running another acc, that you can actually play on, have 2 cynos alts or 2 noob spys or whatever.
now we get the option to pay for 2 and only able to play whit one.
also. CCP, i thought you learned by having 2 options right next to each other. add game time and this right under each other is bound to fill up your pettion system! This, there is really not much of a benefit to this feature at all unless thye give you the option to run two clients from the same account. The thing is that might actually happen as they have talked about making it easier to swap chars ect. The only other benefit i guess is not having to paythe activation fee for a second account and being able to raise toons to sell in the bazarr a bit easier.
Cyno alts that can use more than just a burst, PI alts, Industrial alts, ~mining alts~, ganking alts, ratting alts, capital alts. |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
417
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:26:00 -
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Sir Marksalot wrote:
Cyno alts that can use more than just a burst, PI alts, Industrial alts, ~mining alts~, ganking alts, ratting alts, capital alts.
Basically this means I'm training some hulks on my supercap dudes. Smyd poors. |
DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
87
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:27:00 -
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It's perfect for Research Alts since the training for very decent skills is a little less than 1 month, but that's 1 month you wouldn't be training your "main". Check out my post about some Drone lovin: Proposed Drone Improvement |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:30:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:i'm not entirely sure i see the value (if any) in this feature? I have an account where the main as a PvP toon and the other two are set-up for PI. The ability to train the main, while also training one of the PI toons would be helpful.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:30:00 -
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DelightSucker wrote:this feature have been here forever, its called and ALT account
whats good about this?? That the barrier to entry for training a special-purpose alt is significantly lowered, meaning that people will do it on impulse more often. Sure, CCP loses out on character the transfer fees that they'd get when people try to consolidate a newly-trained alt back into the main account, but I have a distinct feeling that this will be more than compensated for by the higher price on buying PLEX than using regular subscriptions to run that alt-building account (especially when using buddy or power-of-two accounts) and by the increased frequency of use.
What's good about it? $$$ for CCP. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:31:00 -
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But isn't that the trade off with Alts: To train an alt on the same account you have to stop training on your Main. Makes you think whether you really want that Alt doing something specific or want to split roles between Main and Alt.
I can see the advantage but it just means you don't have to really think about what you're doing with your training plans you just use PLEX and train whatever.
Undecided on this which is a first for me on the Forum. Fast Character Switching:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=233321&find=unread |
baltec1
Bat Country
6282
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:32:00 -
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I am now at the point where I dont need this... |
Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:35:00 -
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This is a great idea....only if you can play both characters at once. I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner. Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:...What's good about it? $$$ for CCP. That does seem to be true, but what took CCP so long to see it?
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Melvin Sneedly
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:38:00 -
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This will be great for people who want to train an alt for a limited period of time without having to pause the training on their main. |
Murdock Willows
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:39:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:This is a great idea....only if you can play both characters at once.
you have no imagination.
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Nomad I
University of Caille Gallente Federation
136
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:42:00 -
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Britta Nolen wrote:BRB, converting all isk to PLEX.
Finally, its about damn time.
This feature is useless:
1 account more for one plex gives you 3 chars. When you are ready you can move the char to another acc. But as long as you train a 2nd char, yo can use 2 chars for free 2 chars training on the same account cost you 2 plexes.
The choice is obvious |
RaTTuS
BIG Everywhere - Everything
249
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:44:00 -
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Tenris Anis wrote:Damnit, now I need an option to buy additional character slots via plex ;-) I've asked before about additional character slots http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Caples
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:45:00 -
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How is this any different from having two accounts other than you not being able to have both characters online at the same time? |
Antal Marius
Marius Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:48:00 -
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The way I look at this, is that I can train alts that I can go and sell without disrupting the training on my main(s) that I run with all the time.
I can also use the extra cyno alts =) |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:48:00 -
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Nomad I wrote:Britta Nolen wrote:BRB, converting all isk to PLEX.
Finally, its about damn time. This feature is useless: 1 account more for one plex gives you 3 chars. When you are ready you can move the char to another acc. But as long as you train a 2nd char, yo can use 2 chars for free 2 chars training on the same account cost you 2 plexes. The choice is obvious
did you not read the rest of the thread or what
Caples wrote:How is this any different from having two accounts other than you not being able to have both characters online at the same time?
you too |
Murdock Willows
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:52:00 -
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Nomad I wrote:Britta Nolen wrote:BRB, converting all isk to PLEX.
Finally, its about damn time. This feature is useless: 1 account more for one plex gives you 3 chars. When you are ready you can move the char to another acc. But as long as you train a 2nd char, yo can use 2 chars for free 2 chars training on the same account cost you 2 plexes. The choice is obvious
read the forum....you can train finite alts like PI/CYNO/INDY/trade alts without incurring transfer costs (alts that don't need to be logged in all the time. |
Murdock Willows
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:52:00 -
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Sir Marksalot wrote:Nomad I wrote:Britta Nolen wrote:BRB, converting all isk to PLEX.
Finally, its about damn time. This feature is useless: 1 account more for one plex gives you 3 chars. When you are ready you can move the char to another acc. But as long as you train a 2nd char, yo can use 2 chars for free 2 chars training on the same account cost you 2 plexes. The choice is obvious did you not read the rest of the thread or what Caples wrote:How is this any different from having two accounts other than you not being able to have both characters online at the same time? you too
people lack imagination and are pretty dumb.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4928
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:54:00 -
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DelightSucker wrote:this feature have been here forever, its called and ALT account
whats good about this??
its gonna cost the same as running another acc, that you can actually play on, have 2 cynos alts or 2 noob spys or whatever.
now we get the option to pay for 2 and only able to play whit one.
also. CCP, i thought you learned by having 2 options right next to each other. add game time and this right under each other is bound to fill up your pettion system! No, the difference is you don't have to keep a second account subscribed for, say, a cyno alt, and at the same time don't have to stop training on your main. |
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Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
303
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:55:00 -
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Antal Marius wrote:The way I look at this, is that I can train alts that I can go and sell without disrupting the training on my main(s) that I run with all the time.
I can also use the extra cyno alts =) You'll end up spending more on the PLEX and skill books than anyone is going to pay for your alt on the character bazaar. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
304
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:57:00 -
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Murdock Willows wrote:people lack imagination and are pretty dumb. Yes, you can seperate the visionaries of eve from the standard corp grunts in this thread.
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Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
417
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:58:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Antal Marius wrote:The way I look at this, is that I can train alts that I can go and sell without disrupting the training on my main(s) that I run with all the time.
I can also use the extra cyno alts =) You'll end up spending more on the PLEX and skill books than anyone is going to pay for your alt on the character bazaar.
I haven't done the math because I really don't care. But I'm pretty sure focused (super)capital alts sell for more than they cost to make.
e: it won't be after this though ahahaha |
Murdock Willows
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:00:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Antal Marius wrote:The way I look at this, is that I can train alts that I can go and sell without disrupting the training on my main(s) that I run with all the time.
I can also use the extra cyno alts =) You'll end up spending more on the PLEX and skill books than anyone is going to pay for your alt on the character bazaar.
couldn't that be said for training an alt on another account? in the end if your selling the char it will cost about the same since you have to pay transfer costs...
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Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
304
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:00:00 -
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Sir Marksalot wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Antal Marius wrote:The way I look at this, is that I can train alts that I can go and sell without disrupting the training on my main(s) that I run with all the time.
I can also use the extra cyno alts =) You'll end up spending more on the PLEX and skill books than anyone is going to pay for your alt on the character bazaar. I haven't done the math because I really don't care. But I'm pretty sure focused (super)capital alts sell for more than they cost to make. e: it won't be after this though ahahaha :) Ok perhaps I am wrong. But common sense would suggest that when you take into account the higher cost of subbing with a PLEX, along with the transfer fees, that you would not get as much as you spent back. But that may be wrong as I haven't ever bothered to do the maths either. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
304
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:02:00 -
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Murdock Willows wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Antal Marius wrote:The way I look at this, is that I can train alts that I can go and sell without disrupting the training on my main(s) that I run with all the time.
I can also use the extra cyno alts =) You'll end up spending more on the PLEX and skill books than anyone is going to pay for your alt on the character bazaar. couldn't that be said for training an alt on another account? in the end if your selling the char it will cost about the same since you have to pay transfer costs... When training an alt on a seperate account you pay a much reduced subscription fee. Or for veterens the main character already has so many skills and advancing more would simply raise the clone cost, then people decide to simply train another character on that account and sell it. |
ExAstra
Echoes of Silence Kraken.
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:02:00 -
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It's based off of a DUST 514 model. Dust accounts get 3 character slots, but passive SP only works on one account. You can get both active and passive SP boosters (matches provide small SP amounts) to boost individual character SP rate. Using a passive booster on another character's slot gives that character up to 30 days of NORMAL passive SP generation (not boosted like it would be on your main).
It's pretty nice, really. Save the drones! |
Danni stark
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:07:00 -
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even the cyno alt argument i find a bit weak.
if i'm not mistaken, power of 2 is 3 plex? and then 2 plex for a transfer. that's 6 months of training for 5 plex. although i guess the counter argument is that power of 2 isn't always available.
well, this change only adds things and doesn't take things away so i guess nobody can argue it's a bad idea, only the extent of how useful it will be. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Maximille Biagge
The Eidolon Foundation
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:09:00 -
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Its actually a great thing, remember that you still can't log on two characters from the same account at once so it's not going to be used for most types of alt. Also if you want a second char to skill alongside your main permanently it's still much simpler to just plex a second account.
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Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
417
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:10:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:even the cyno alt argument i find a bit weak.
if i'm not mistaken, power of 2 is 3 plex? and then 2 plex for a transfer. that's 6 months of training for 5 plex. although i guess the counter argument is that power of 2 isn't always available.
well, this change only adds things and doesn't take things away so i guess nobody can argue it's a bad idea, only the extent of how useful it will be.
Do you not know what a cyno alt is? |
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