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Danni stark
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:13:00 -
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Sir Marksalot wrote:Danni stark wrote:even the cyno alt argument i find a bit weak.
if i'm not mistaken, power of 2 is 3 plex? and then 2 plex for a transfer. that's 6 months of training for 5 plex. although i guess the counter argument is that power of 2 isn't always available.
well, this change only adds things and doesn't take things away so i guess nobody can argue it's a bad idea, only the extent of how useful it will be. Do you not know what a cyno alt is?
yes, and i appreciate it doesn't need 6 months worth of SP but still, wouldn't hurt to give it some scanning skills perhaps *shrug* like i said, this concept isn't bad. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1440
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:16:00 -
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I'm okay with this. It's actually less cost effective than getting a second account, which is how it should be because otherwise CCP would lose money from second accounts having characters transferred to the main account. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Britta Nolen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:17:00 -
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Nomad I wrote:Britta Nolen wrote:BRB, converting all isk to PLEX.
Finally, its about damn time. This feature is useless: 1 account more for one plex gives you 3 chars. When you are ready you can move the char to another acc. But as long as you train a 2nd char, yo can use 2 chars for free 2 chars training on the same account cost you 2 plexes. The choice is obvious
Quite a few people in here have limited imagination. I currently sub for 6 accounts; 4 in wormhole space and 2 in highsec.. At this level, traveling around is tedious & highly annoying. Dual training will allow me to add 3 alts for FW and 3 for NPC null. I will get to enjoy various aspects of the sandbox w/o having to travel everywhere & save the headache of managing 12 accounts. |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
465
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:31:00 -
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Maybe cyno-alt is not the best case, but for market-alt, FW/RvsB-alt, ganker-alt, high sec shopping-alt, etc. this sound pretty good. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9241
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:33:00 -
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Caples wrote:How is this any different from having two accounts other than you not being able to have both characters online at the same time?
It's not. But it does save the 2-PLEX transfer fee that you'd otherwise incurr from transferring a character you're done training.
This feature is clearly for people who want to make a low-SP specific purpose alt (hauler alt, trade alt, whatever) without the overhead of running a second account.
If you don't like it, don't use it, sheeesh
1 Kings 12:11
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Legion40k
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL Circle-Of-Two
13
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:38:00 -
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I'm alright with this, to be honest it has a lot of positive effects for people that need the cyno alts, the hisec hauler alts etc that don't get used all the time and wouldn't justify a whole new account being constantly paid for.
Think of the new ISK sink
I imagine PLEX prices will start shaking, but after seeing the fanfest presentation, how CCP has actively alleviated market pressures before, I'm confident this will be a good thing if implemented
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Fr0gOfWar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:39:00 -
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DelightSucker wrote:this feature have been here forever, its called and ALT account
whats good about this??
its gonna cost the same as running another acc, that you can actually play on, have 2 cynos alts or 2 noob spys or whatever.
now we get the option to pay for 2 and only able to play whit one.
Maybe they plan on letting you play with 2 chars on same account once the single sign on is implemented. *shrug*
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1776
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:39:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:http://i.imgur.com/pi1YRok.png http://i.imgur.com/v1Y5PPw.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/sucS7wR.pngSomeone else on Sisi brought this to my attention and I was skeptical at first, but it appears to be true - come Odyssey you will be able to use a PLEX to activate simultaneous training on two characters on the same account for 30 days. It makes perfect sense and I think it's something that a lot of people have been asking for for years.
OH HELL YEA!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14163
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:46:00 -
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Legion40k wrote:Think of the new ISK sink What new ISK sink? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Legion40k
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL Circle-Of-Two
13
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Legion40k wrote:Think of the new ISK sink What new ISK sink?
me finally sinking ISKies into plex :P |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4931
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:53:00 -
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Legion40k wrote:Tippia wrote:Legion40k wrote:Think of the new ISK sink What new ISK sink? me finally sinking ISKies into plex :P That's not an isk sink. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1776
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:57:00 -
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I can't say it enough, this is brilliant.
Do this ccp, this is how you properly monetize a game like this, not 1000 dollar pants :) . |
Legion40k
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL Circle-Of-Two
13
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:57:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Legion40k wrote:Tippia wrote:Legion40k wrote:Think of the new ISK sink What new ISK sink? me finally sinking ISKies into plex :P That's not an isk sink.
its supposed to be me joking about 'sinking' money .. nvm v_V |
Sarmatiko
1089
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:24:00 -
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Sweeet! I can now actually train something on this alt
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Maxpie
MUSE Buy-n-Large Metaphysical Utopian Society Enterprises
299
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:36:00 -
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Has CCP declared war on consequences?
First pay to fix sec status, now this. I don't like the wowification of my Eve.
No good deed goes unpunished |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
4898
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:42:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:Has CCP declared war on consequences?
First pay to fix sec status, now this. I don't like the wowification of my Eve. What removal of consequenses are you referring to? 1 PLEX has always bought you 30 days of training on another character. The only difference is, that now that character doesn't have to be on a different account. |
Balkor Wolf
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
35
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:51:00 -
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Been chatting about this on the alliance forums and a question had just come to mind.
Let's say you are training up two characters through this system and while training on both of them is running the time for it runs out. Which of the character's training is going to stop? |
Danni stark
211
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:56:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:Has CCP declared war on consequences?
First pay to fix sec status, now this. I don't like the wowification of my Eve.
if it was wowification they'd simply mail you a fully fit vindicator every patch. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Legion40k
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL Circle-Of-Two
13
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:57:00 -
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Balkor Wolf wrote:Been chatting about this on the alliance forums and a question had just come to mind.
Let's say you are training up two characters through this system and while training on both of them is running the time for it runs out. Which of the character's training is going to stop?
mmk that's a good point, there's a bunch of different ways CCP could tackle that..though i dunno. The worst possible is that if your subscription runs out then "oh well, should've thought about that" consequence.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4933
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:02:00 -
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Balkor Wolf wrote:Been chatting about this on the alliance forums and a question had just come to mind.
Let's say you are training up two characters through this system and while training on both of them is running the time for it runs out. Which of the character's training is going to stop? If I were CCP I'd code it so the most recent character to have hit "apply" on their skill queue would have that training stopped. |
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Balkor Wolf
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
35
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:03:00 -
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Legion40k wrote:Balkor Wolf wrote:Been chatting about this on the alliance forums and a question had just come to mind.
Let's say you are training up two characters through this system and while training on both of them is running the time for it runs out. Which of the character's training is going to stop? mmk that's a good point, there's a bunch of different ways CCP could tackle that..though i dunno. The worst possible is that if your subscription runs out then "oh well, should've thought about that" consequence. :s
I have no doubt CCP have already considered this possibility and how to deal with it however it would be nice if we knew about it =P Also between now and when the new expansion deploys I don't think there is enough time for us to test this ourselves.
My own personal thoughts are that either the character with the highest SP training keeps running (Presuming that CCP do intend this feature to be for alts) Or the character who's skill que was last updated has their training continue. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14163
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:11:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:Has CCP declared war on consequences? Not really, no.
Quote:First pay to fix sec status, now this. So first something that doesn't remove circumstances GÇö just displace them in time and space, but make them the same as always, and now something that has nothing to do with consequences and which is already in place in a different, more cumbersome form. EhmGǪ what?
Quote:I don't like the wowification of my Eve. What does any of this have to do with WoW?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Danni stark
211
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:12:00 -
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simple solution to the "which character stops training" is to simply not let you add 30 days training time to an alt if your subscription is less than 30 days longer than the time remaining on your alt's skill training activation thingy.
eg if you have 5 months left on your account, and you have 4.5 months on your 2nd character's skill queue you can't add more time on to your alt's skill queue.
alternatively, split it, so they both expire at the same time. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Jassmin Joy
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
123
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:15:00 -
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Not sure how i feel about this to be honest, on one hand it could be usefull, on the other i've got multiple accounts for multiple toons that i don't need logged in at the same time just to train them, this makes that all redundant. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1471
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:15:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Maxpie wrote:Has CCP declared war on consequences? Not really, no. Quote:First pay to fix sec status, now this. So first something that doesn't remove circumstances GÇö just displace them in time and space, but make them the same as always, and now something that has nothing to do with consequences and which is already in place in a different, more cumbersome form. EhmGǪ what? Quote:I don't like the wowification of my Eve. What does any of this have to do with WoW?
I'm not sure if you noticed, but you're talking to idiots.
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Dez Affinity
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
216
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:23:00 -
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Anyone posting against this is an idiot.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9248
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:25:00 -
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It's the latest extreme sport, Grath.
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9248
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:25:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:Anyone posting against this is an idiot.
"Grrr CCP! STOP GIVING ME OPTIONS!!!!"
1 Kings 12:11
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Malak Dawnfire
The Scope Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:25:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Tippia wrote:Maxpie wrote:Has CCP declared war on consequences? Not really, no. Quote:First pay to fix sec status, now this. So first something that doesn't remove circumstances GÇö just displace them in time and space, but make them the same as always, and now something that has nothing to do with consequences and which is already in place in a different, more cumbersome form. EhmGǪ what? Quote:I don't like the wowification of my Eve. What does any of this have to do with WoW? I'm not sure if you noticed, but you're talking to idiots.
Lmao! Made me laugh much harder than it should have also-
EVE dying. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9249
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:26:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:simple solution to the "which character stops training" is to simply not let you add 30 days training time to an alt if your subscription is less than 30 days longer than the time remaining on your alt's skill training activation thingy.
eg if you have 5 months left on your account, and you have 4.5 months on your 2nd character's skill queue you can't add more time on to your alt's skill queue.
alternatively, split it, so they both expire at the same time.
The even simpler solution is that your account stays active until both PLEX have expired.
1 Kings 12:11
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